Board 8 > Nintendo's kinda dropping bombs at its investor briefing

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transcience
04/26/12 7:17:00 PM
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okay, not huge ones but huge for a backward company like Nintendo

- NSMB2 3DS is a physical/digital dual release
- all Wii U games will be available digitally, presumably on the day of release
- Wii U launching in 2012 worldwide
- no price will be announced at e3

perhaps more to come

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LeonhartFour
04/26/12 7:18:00 PM
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This year? Whoa.

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Ayuyu
04/26/12 7:18:00 PM
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From: transcience | #001
- all Wii U games will be available digitally, presumably on the day of release


Whoa, that's a huge one.

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red sox 777
04/26/12 7:18:00 PM
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Nintendo is feeling the panic, it seems.

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04/26/12 7:18:00 PM
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woah

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transcience
04/26/12 7:19:00 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17
04/26/12 7:19:00 PM
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From: transcience | #001
- no price will be announced at e3


I want to say "uh-oh" here, but at the same time, it's a Nintendo console. How bad could it be?

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Shoenin_Kakashi
04/26/12 7:21:00 PM
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- all Wii U games will be available digitally, presumably on the day of release
Not sure if want

- Wii U launching in 2012 worldwide
Jesus

that thing is gonna be rushed.

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transcience
04/26/12 7:22:00 PM
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Wii price was announced in September 2006, not a big deal

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OctilIery
04/26/12 7:22:00 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
From: transcience | #001
- no price will be announced at e3
I want to say "uh-oh" here, but at the same time, it's a Nintendo console. How bad could it be?


Based on the rumors we've heard this could easily be the most expensive Nintendo console. Of course that would only mean, what, $300, $350?

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tereziWright
04/26/12 7:22:00 PM
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Day and Date digital is a generation winner if Sony and Microsoft don't follow suite. And if they do follow suite, that's it for GameStop.

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transcience
04/26/12 7:23:00 PM
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Wii U launching in 2012 has been known since before it was unveiled. the only news is that it's happening worldwide and that was pretty expected already.

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StifledSilence
04/26/12 7:25:00 PM
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tereziWright posted...
Day and Date digital is a generation winner if Sony and Microsoft don't follow suite. And if they do follow suite, that's it for GameStop.

Exciting.



Attractive GameStop employees will have to offer sex as a preorder bonus to get first day in-store sales.

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The Mana Sword
04/26/12 7:25:00 PM
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digital release of games is cool, but only if they can build a storefront and online system that doesn't suck balls

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transcience
04/26/12 7:26:00 PM
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most expensive Nintendo console ever would be a whopping $251

$299 max

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ninkendo
04/26/12 7:26:00 PM
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Nintendo's plan for Digital Distribution

retailers decide the price of games and not nintendo, promoting competition among retails with DD

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transcience
04/26/12 7:27:00 PM
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yeah, the real question is if Nintendo can build an account system so that it's not tied to your console

they god damn better

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ninkendo
04/26/12 7:28:00 PM
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transcience posted...
yeah, the real question is if Nintendo can build an account system so that it's not tied to your console

they god damn better


wasnt' that already confirmed at the previous investor briefing

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neonreap
04/26/12 7:30:00 PM
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From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #007
I want to say "uh-oh" here, but at the same time, it's a Nintendo console. How bad could it be?


Does that change as we get closer to the next-generation console, the Wii U?

The market is going to continue to differentiate based on the types of experiences that consumers want. As an example, if I’m the head of a household of a family of four, and my disposable income is $50,000 to $60,000, I’m going to continue to look at the Wii because of the software, and it’s a great entertainment device. For consumers who want to have the latest gadgets and have a higher disposable income, that’s for the Wii U.


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thundersheep
04/26/12 7:30:00 PM
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From: ninkendo | #016
external image

Nintendo's plan for Digital Distribution

retailers decide the price of games and not nintendo, promoting competition among retails with DD


That's pretty damn cool. The reason I never buy games on PSN is because there is no advantage when I'm paying $59.99 for a new release when I could just have the game on disc and be able to loan it to friends, keep it when switching hard drives, and all that jazz. If this ends up making games cheaper than $60 somewhere (I don't really care which ends up being cheaper) then we all win.

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GranzonEx
04/26/12 7:32:00 PM
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From: transcience | #017
yeah, the real question is if Nintendo can build an account system so that it's not tied to your console

they god damn better


My thoughts exactly.

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GuessMyUserName
04/26/12 7:35:00 PM
#22:


... what's with people being amazed at the 2012 announcement?... is this your first time hearing about the Wii U? >_>

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transcience
04/26/12 7:36:00 PM
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they may have - Wii U details are so murky right now. need e3 for Nintendo to finally show the thing.

part of the problem is that it's so hard to trust Nintendo to do the right thing when it comes to stuff like online and digital distribution. with Microsoft or Sony you could give them the benefit of the doubt but with Nintendo I'm just always skeptical until they prove it to me. it'll probably be fine but I never feel quite comfortable.

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Sorozone
04/26/12 7:37:00 PM
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They announced an account system, no word if it's tied to the console or not however.

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SpeedYoshi
04/26/12 7:39:00 PM
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From: transcience | #017
yeah, the real question is if Nintendo can build an account system so that it's not tied to your console

they god damn better


this would require you to be online to play offline games

so.....

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GranzonEx
04/26/12 7:39:00 PM
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From: SpeedYoshi | #025
this would require you to be online to play offline games

so.....


No

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KamikazePotato
04/26/12 7:39:00 PM
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Digital Distribution would be excellent if they do it right.

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swordz9
04/26/12 7:42:00 PM
#28:


If I ever get a WiiU it'll be all physical releases for me. I probably won't get any next gen console for a while after release if at all though.

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GuessMyUserName
04/26/12 7:42:00 PM
#29:


NSMB2 being downloadable is kinda funny now, since just yesterday Nintendo responded about listing the game as available on eShop on their site as just a typo

did they really need to delay this news a day so badly

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Wanglicious
04/26/12 7:43:00 PM
#30:


...whoa.
it's a huge deal that the 3DS is having its digital release launch with NSMB2. that's crazy good news on both the 3DS digital shop AND on the game itself.

the Wii U digital download is also a huge deal. didn't see that coming from them, but at least it was more visible than the 3DS one.

no real surprise on the last two. i don't get how anyone could think the Wii U is a rushed system there - they showed it briefly at the LAST E3, enough for a prototype version. E3 is seeing the final version. and no price makes sense because that's what September's conference will be fore, along with months of hype and getting people interested in it. this is one of the most planned and public systems we've had in terms of how long we've had to wait until release. a new system being in the public for two years is unheard of.


and if the reason it's like that is because they want to keep prices lower and/or because they were revamping their online, then it's great news.

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Wanglicious
04/26/12 7:46:00 PM
#31:


....though i wonder, if the games can be gotten digitally, any chance region free...?

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transcience
04/26/12 7:47:00 PM
#32:


anybody launching a console in 2012 is going to have day 1 digital releases. heck, the Vita has that and it's a portable system. the only issue would be the size of games since Microsoft and Sony are likely to adopt blu-ray. even then they'll probably have a digital option.

the notable part is that Nintendo is doing it as well instead of being so rigid and backwards thinking.

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Raka_Putra
04/26/12 7:47:00 PM
#33:


Dammit, I've yet to buy a PS3 and yet the next gen is steadily approaching.

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Wanglicious
04/26/12 7:53:00 PM
#34:


some digital releases sure, but full on games digital is different, especially from nintendo like you said. their model is absolutely stunning though in that they figured that was the best way to go.

...i mean it IS the best way to do digital downloads from a consumer perspective, which should drive the profits for them too back home. it's just weird that THEY did it before MS or Sony, who keep their stuff on lockdown. they... went with a PC model.

this confuses me greatly.

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Ayuyu
04/26/12 7:53:00 PM
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And then the final bomb will be..

Steam

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Shoenin_Kakashi
04/26/12 7:54:00 PM
#36:


From: Ayuyu | #035
And then the final bomb will be..

Steam


and Episode 3 Wii U/PC exclusive

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Wanglicious
04/26/12 7:56:00 PM
#37:


honestly if that's their digital model steam doesn't seem impossible!
then again all 3 guys would love to have steam in some form or another.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/26/12 8:02:00 PM
#38:


Well Steamworks is already on PS3 so if anyone got console Steam support, I would think it would be Sony.

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foolm0ron
04/26/12 8:05:00 PM
#39:


From: transcience | #001
- all Wii U games will be available digitally, presumably on the day of release


Now we're getting somewhere

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ZFS
04/26/12 8:06:00 PM
#40:


This is Nintendo playing catch up, yeah. It's big news for Nintendo, but new ground isn't being broken here. The way the digital distribution system works--buy through retailers, retailers decide the price--is new and interesting, though. The 3DS's lack of an account system is a problem.

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ninkendo
04/26/12 8:12:00 PM
#41:


Digital - on concerns download will take too long, said that's why can buy media direct or do so late at night

oh man late night. That's the time adults stay up! How mature!

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foolm0ron
04/26/12 8:12:00 PM
#42:


From: ninkendo | #016
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Nintendo's plan for Digital Distribution

retailers decide the price of games and not nintendo, promoting competition among retails with DD


Alright, Nintendo knows what it's doing. They realize that this is the future and they are going balls deep with it. All they need is a strong online network system, which is what I'm really worrying about. But if they nail that and have a Steam-like distribution and marketing system, they will undoubtedly win the next generation as well.

Man, just thinking about it, I realized how brilliant this retail thing is. Maybe the best part about this is that Sony/MS will definitely have options for fully digitable games in their consoles. Sony is a given considering they did it with the Vita already, but I dunno about MS.

Oh wait, how big is the Wii U's built in HDD?

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ninkendo
04/26/12 8:14:00 PM
#43:


foolm0ron posted...
From: ninkendo | #016
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Nintendo's plan for Digital Distribution

retailers decide the price of games and not nintendo, promoting competition among retails with DD
Alright, Nintendo knows what it's doing. They realize that this is the future and they are going balls deep with it. All they need is a strong online network system, which is what I'm really worrying about. But if they nail that and have a Steam-like distribution and marketing system, they will undoubtedly win the next generation as well.

Man, just thinking about it, I realized how brilliant this retail thing is. Maybe the best part about this is that Sony/MS will definitely have options for fully digitable games in their consoles. Sony is a given considering they did it with the Vita already, but I dunno about MS.

Oh wait, how big is the Wii U's built in HDD?


only 8GB out of the box (to keep costs low) but it supports external HDDs

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Wanglicious
04/26/12 8:15:00 PM
#44:


better question, Wii U has a built in HDD?
i just assume they're going the Sony route with it and doing any 2.5" can work.

but yeah, they took the PC model of digital distribution which is smart. the net result for this will be sony and microsoft will be forced to loosen their deathgrip for their next systems too.

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foolm0ron
04/26/12 8:17:00 PM
#45:


From: ninkendo | #043
only 8GB out of the box (to keep costs low) but it supports external HDDs


Uhhh that won't really help convince people to go digital

But maybe this is just the first transition period... later they will release a new version with a bigger HDD once people get used to the idea of digital downloads.

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ninkendo
04/26/12 8:18:00 PM
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well that was just what was announced at E3 last year. Might have changed since then who knows

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pjbasis
04/26/12 8:18:00 PM
#47:


8GB?

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transience
04/26/12 8:21:00 PM
#48:


yeah, Wii U seems like a system in flux. I wouldn't be amazed to see a brand new console at e3 - new name, new controller, new specs, new online, new games, you name it. anything could happen.

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ZFS
04/26/12 8:21:00 PM
#49:


Yeah, if Nintendo doesn't use a HDD or some type of large built-in storage there will be problems. It's the Nintendo thing to do to skimp on storage, though.

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Ayuyu
04/26/12 8:21:00 PM
#50:


From: ninkendo | #046
well that was just what was announced at E3 last year. Might have changed since then who knows


Especially since it was discovered not too long ago that you can multiply the capacity of hard drives by 6 by using SALT while making them.

Salt is pretty cheap, HDD price will plummet.

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