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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 6:19:00 PM
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JaKyL25
04/03/12 6:20:00 PM
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Wanglicious
04/03/12 6:20:00 PM
#3:


man. nice gif.

also somewhere lost in the Raw and WM is the 5 star match.

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 6:24:00 PM
#4:


I wonder what would have happened had Brock beaten Overeem for #1 Contendership in December.

Granted, he'd still be back eventually anyway, but had he won he says he would have done one more fight, the title fight against JDS, and THEN retired win or lose. Which means he wouldn't be here today since they're not doing the title fight until early May.

I guess he would have just done the same thing but the night after Summerslam instead of WM?

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XIII_rocks
04/03/12 6:24:00 PM
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>_>;

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XIII_rocks
04/03/12 6:25:00 PM
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Best. This is shaping up to be a good week in WWE

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KJH
04/03/12 6:33:00 PM
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From the last topic:

if you could import 3 wrestlers from japan to work for the WWE with the guarentee that they wouldn't get buried.

1. Nobuhiko Takada as Generalissimo Takada. Permanent GM forever.
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2. Yoshihiro Tajiri. Familiar face, and his involvement in Hustle and Smash after leaving the WWE was amazing.

3. Kohei Sato. Another big guy in Hustle, and not super old at least.

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Tom Bombadil
04/03/12 6:38:00 PM
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Hard Gay tbqh

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 6:42:00 PM
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From: XIII_rocks | #005


>_>;


They're talking about a drug called DDT.

Listen to The Rock's voice. He sounds so excited at the thought of doing DDT.

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 6:44:00 PM
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rachel carson eat your heart out

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XIII_rocks
04/03/12 6:44:00 PM
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Man = Dude
Kind = Love

.........omg

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XIII_rocks
04/03/12 6:51:00 PM
#12:


Bret Hart %u200F @BretHart
Very glad the fans were vocal in their displeasure of one of the best wrestlers on the roster being jobbed out in 18 seconds.


Knows what's up.

(as you'd expect >_>)

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 6:51:00 PM
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Man = Dude = Cactus
Kind = Love = Jack

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 6:52:00 PM
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Love = Jack

well... KINDA!

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 6:57:00 PM
#15:


I could see Mick Foley coming up with Dude = Cactus after the hits to the head he's taken.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 6:58:00 PM
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it isn't just that hold. a lot of the match was with them very, very obviously telling each other what to do. that was half the holds... in a match that was 80% holds. >_>;


also moxley/foley feud i want this.

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voltch
04/03/12 7:29:00 PM
#17:


lordvoltch 3:23 am
(03:23:27): on ESPN?
Volcano Style 3:23 am
(03:23:30): yeah
(03:23:53): the miami heat crowd were chanting YES YES YES to every bounce of the ball

Kevin Dunn is apparently not happy that Yes Yes Yes has gone viral.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/03/12 7:30:00 PM
#18:




F****ING YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

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voltch
04/03/12 7:34:00 PM
#19:


Everyone literally replying ahahaha

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LEMONedIceCream
04/03/12 7:40:00 PM
#20:


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Haguile
04/03/12 7:42:00 PM
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I have just stolen this gif from another forum. I believe more people need to see it.

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GTM
04/03/12 7:42:00 PM
#22:


YES!

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04/03/12 7:43:00 PM
#23:


topic in a day wow

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 7:46:00 PM
#24:


YES! is Stone Cold Approved.

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/smackdown/609945-yes-stone-cold-approved.html

YES! YES! YES!

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voltch
04/03/12 7:46:00 PM
#25:


Well looks like I lowballed the Miami corwd.

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 7:51:00 PM
#26:


Yeah, I'll bet anything they order DB to stop doing YES!

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 7:57:00 PM
#27:


Is there a source on this "Kevin Dunn angry at Daniel Bryan being viral" thing? Like it's totally believable, but I would like to know where it's coming from before I decide to brace myself for WWE becoming boring again.

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vcharon
04/03/12 7:58:00 PM
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YES! > What?

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 8:05:00 PM
#29:


we need video footage of the YES chant at the basketball game.

and if anyone in wwe management has a problem that YES has gone over like this so hard they need to get their head checked. having something leapfrog from wrestling into mainstream media, sports, and everyday life is a fantastic event that you would be an idiot to not capitalize on. sky's the limit on dragon right now, and wwe's in an excellent position to capitalize on it. he's high in the booking, he's got a HUGE fanbase, his gimmick exploded in ways that few others have - it's a perfect storm. whatever they were planning for him has to be over because you really can't ignore this. and if they try to, the chants will get louder.

and it's ironically because he was jobbed out at wrestlemania. whoever wrote that idea reaaaally screwed up.

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DeathChicken
04/03/12 8:08:00 PM
#30:


We've seen with Zack Ryder what they think of people getting over on their own

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 8:10:00 PM
#31:


From: voltch | #017
lordvoltch 3:23 am
(03:23:27): on ESPN?
Volcano Style 3:23 am
(03:23:30): yeah
(03:23:53): the miami heat crowd were chanting YES YES YES to every bounce of the ball


I THOUGHT I HEARD THIS! I was like "Are they...? No. No, they can't be."

And Kevin Dunn confirmed to be the biggest issue in the WWE.

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sonten1
04/03/12 8:10:00 PM
#32:


Ryder never quite got like this.

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 8:14:00 PM
#33:


I seriously thought I was so obsessed with Daniel Bryan that I was just mishearing "LET'S GO DEFENSE" as "YES! YES! YES!" Even though the Heat had possession.

Why didn't I realize that didn't make sense at the time?

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 8:16:00 PM
#34:


...going from jobber to a US title run, main eventing Raws, being part of major feuds, and consistently in the limelight?

man, imagine what happens when you get something bigger, considerably more mainstream, simpler, easier for crowds to 'get,' easier for people to get, have a hardcore dedicated fanbase that has been with you for YEARS, and, on top of all that, are a guy who just lost one of the two main belts in WWE.

edit: oh, and a billion times more talented in the ring and on the mic so even those WATCHING are enjoying the work.


if Dragon gets the equivalent of what Ryder got, he'll be bigger than Punk.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/03/12 8:17:00 PM
#35:


I wouldn't say Ryder had a US title run so much as a short walk and a hand off.

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DeathChicken
04/03/12 8:18:00 PM
#36:


If the limelight consists of Kane beating him up week after week while he stacked up a comical amount of injuries, the payoff of which was...Eve Torres kicking him in the nuts(?), I guess

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voltch
04/03/12 8:18:00 PM
#37:


Bryan's got something Ryder doesn't have.

Being the best in the world in the ring! Though yeah looks like I thought Bryan reached his ceiling, but hey we talked about Bryan accidently falling into stardom, but now he's getting the National TV treatment?

They pushed miz pretty damn hard just because he was on Real World.

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PartOfYourWorld
04/03/12 8:20:00 PM
#38:


From: Jakyl25 | #004
I wonder what would have happened had Brock beaten Overeem for #1 Contendership in December.

Granted, he'd still be back eventually anyway, but had he won he says he would have done one more fight, the title fight against JDS, and THEN retired win or lose. Which means he wouldn't be here today since they're not doing the title fight until early May.

I guess he would have just done the same thing but the night after Summerslam instead of WM?


Do you think Vince would let the announcers namedrop the UFC if Brock had retired champ?

"BROCK LESNAR IS BACK. THIS MAN LEFT THE UFC AS THEIR CHAMPION."

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 8:21:00 PM
#39:


short walk and handoff to look like a total tank. <_<;
i mean ryder went from 'we are about to fire you' to 'okay he's a bit above kofi's level.'

and in the immediate aftermath he wasn't getting killed by kane. he was being shoved down your throat by cena, in raw's main event with cena, and even on the last raw what match finished the show? miz/ryder. yes, ryder lost, but that's because they're re-pushing miz.

and he's incredibly over still. half the guys would beg to be the guy killed by kane on a weekly basis because that actually means something. the payoff with eve is in ??? land, as he's got an actual storyline now. this from a guy who a year ago would've been fired. maybe a bit more now, but... yeah.

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voltch
04/03/12 8:22:00 PM
#40:


would have the roster ask to be killed by Undertaker like DDP?

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04/03/12 8:24:00 PM
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powerBombist
04/03/12 8:32:00 PM
#42:


the difference between ryder and bryan is that bryan was put into his world champion spot independent of any kind of upswelling of grassroots support. as far as the company is concerned, his popularity and heat were created by them, so they'll probably be more receptive to pushing him


of course i could be talking out of my ass and tomorrow vince could call bryan into his office for a talk and press the secret button under his desk that operates the trap door db is standing on

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XIII_rocks
04/03/12 8:34:00 PM
#43:


Yeah. People absolutely shouldn't underestimate where Ryder is now. He gets regular time. The Kane/Eve story made his character look dumb, but there's still an obvious focus on the guy

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 8:35:00 PM
#44:


...also i just hit the realization.

they tried to do to dragon what they did to swagger.
sheamus = ryder
dragon = swagger

remember when the match started and swagger got straight up pinned in 10 seconds by then isn't-that-guy-still-a-jobber ryder?

and how that was the ultimate thing to cement swagger's stuck in midcard level?
yeah. crowd and fans ain't okay with that!

also this means that dragon being a suitable swagger replacement of 'guy who jobs to sheamus' really wasn't gonna work out, so yay.

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voltch
04/03/12 8:38:00 PM
#45:


DDP got screentime.

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 8:40:00 PM
#46:


I would not have pegged Bryan Danielson as being the guy to coin the most infectious catchphrase of the decade.

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ExThaNemesis
04/03/12 8:40:00 PM
#47:


From: Wanglicious | #030
whoever wrote that idea reaaaally screwed up.


you could argue that with the reaction it's gotten, it was a stroke of pure genius?

Feel bad for Sheamus though.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 8:41:00 PM
#48:


well, kane/eve looks dumb but is STILL removed from the peak of the ryder revolution. ryder was getting chanted similar to how dragon was last night - though not as often or as loud, which... is ridiculous considering nobody was over like ryder was. they were chanting ryder over the rock. guy would've been in the first batch of funkasaurus squashes if even around, but instead he... is fighting guys like the miz. and while that may not seem like much, considering miz has been in recent matches against guys like punk? seriously. jobber to upper midcard's a huge gap to leapfrog and wwe did it.


the equivalent of that for a two-days removed world champion is what? hell, half that? add in his talent, the simple and just plain fun use of the gimmick, it being an easy ACTIVE gimmick from the crowd, and the sheer love he's got from the fans and you've got somebody who can print you money. and wwe's no doubt gonna find out how much with the YES! shirts.

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ExThaNemesis
04/03/12 8:43:00 PM
#49:


Also Wang your optimism is disconcerting. You are taking the same kind of approach as when you thought Cody could win at Mania and it's making me think that despite how much it makes sense for them to cash in on this DB thing they'll fail to do it.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/03/12 8:43:00 PM
#50:


I'm still planning on tentatively buying a YES! shirt. It needs to not suck though.

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