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ScareChan
04/03/12 9:33:00 PM
#101:


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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 9:33:00 PM
#102:


Skip was like the sixth most over person in Nexus. This translates to "occasionally job on SD if you're lucky"

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 9:33:00 PM
#103:


Even if they rigged the system entirely so that he never tested positive for years, I just don't think they'd want a potential PR nightmare.

If Jeff was to actually get caught by law enforcement again under WWE contract that would NOT go over well at all.

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 9:34:00 PM
#104:


Wasn't there a report once that Vince looked at Skip Sheffield as potentially a #2 babyface eventually?

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:36:00 PM
#105:


..heel stacked and... you mention Brock redebut and the Rock? buh?
Tensai might be heel or face. right now kinda ??? i agree they're leaning heel but don't have to necessarily go that route. and who knows what dragon is now.

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ExThaNemesis
04/03/12 9:37:00 PM
#106:


I think it's cool to have Albert back but honestly what the hell do they have for him to do? I'm assuming he doesn't talk.

I am already bored watching him beat up jobbers after his match with A-Ry's theme had to be stopped for no reason at all.

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 9:38:00 PM
#107:


I think it's cool to have Albert back but honestly what the hell do they have for him to do?

Be ready as a filler-jobber for Cena/Orton/Punk/whoever during a down month.

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ScareChan
04/03/12 9:39:00 PM
#108:


Two independent statements

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 9:39:00 PM
#109:


The more appropriate question is, what do they have for Brodus? They don't have any dominant heel champs that need the occasional face to bury.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:40:00 PM
#110:


easy answer is have him do this for a bit, go to SD in the draft, fight show for IC belt and win.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:40:00 PM
#111:


that's for albert.
brodus is uh...

right now stuck with santino and the US championship. or just feuding with ziggler/swagger. either way, brodus over swagger is incoming.

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 9:41:00 PM
#112:


From: SmartMuffin | #109
The more appropriate question is, what do they have for Brodus? They don't have any dominant heel champs that need the occasional face to bury.


I think last night you saw a glimpse of the next Tag Team Champions

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 9:42:00 PM
#113:


I think last night you saw a glimpse of the next Tag Team Champions

Yeah, and that's fine, I guess, but it's a little beneath him, isn't it? We're really gonna go from "he absolutely squashes everyone he sees" to "has to be in a competitive matchup against Primo and Epico"?

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/03/12 9:44:00 PM
#114:


You know who else shows glimpses of being a Tag Team Champion?

Damien Sandow.

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edwardsdv
04/03/12 9:44:00 PM
#115:


Ziggler feuding with Santino and Brodus is such a dreary possibility. Such a waste of his talent, But with the new BS logjam at the top, I guess thats the most logical thing for him to do.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:44:00 PM
#116:


or he can just squash epico. >_>;

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 9:44:00 PM
#117:


Well if it IS a competitive match, I assume the champs will isolate Santino for the heat segment and then the hot tag will lead almost immediately to victory.

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THEDavyJones
04/03/12 9:45:00 PM
#118:


I would assume Brodus would solely be in for the hot tag to end the match.

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 9:46:00 PM
#119:


From: Jakyl25 | #117
Well if it IS a competitive match, I assume the champs will isolate Santino for the heat segment and then the hot tag will lead almost immediately to victory.


I guess. I just mean long-term. Like, there's NOTHING for him in an ME scene that's already way overcrowded with faces, and in the mid-card, you're going to have a tough time finding credible competition for him. I guess he could work a program with Dolph and that would be credible.

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 9:48:00 PM
#120:


Well if they win the Tag Titles then there's Zig-Swag right there to challenge.

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 9:49:00 PM
#121:


I feel like Zig-Swag is teetering on the edge of breakup. Zig is WAY overdue to kick Vickie to the curb and do his own thing.

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 9:49:00 PM
#122:


Isn't Santino the United States Champion? They are probably not winning the Tag Titles. And Primo & Epico (w/Rosa) is a good tag team that needs an actual division built for them.

From: Wanglicious | #105
who knows what dragon is now.


If Dragon is face, Sheamus is heel, so it evens out number wise.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:49:00 PM
#123:


it's incredibly sad that we can't say 'well okay he can work something with swagger and look legit'

and it's entirely due to booking. swagger would have won the hiac santino match had vickie not interfered. there's a lot of 'he would have won but for...' situations with him to the point where 'he should win but he somehow chokes and loses a lot.'

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THEDavyJones
04/03/12 9:50:00 PM
#124:


Jakyl25 posted...
Well if they win the Tag Titles then there's Zig-Swag right there to challenge.

I thought we determined their name was Swiggler or Swaggler.

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 9:50:00 PM
#125:


From: Wanglicious | #123
the hiac santino match


Cage match, actually.

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 9:51:00 PM
#126:


From: Rad Link 5 | #122
Isn't Santino the United States Champion? They are probably not winning the Tag Titles. And Primo & Epico (w/Rosa) is a good tag team that needs an actual division built for them.


I dunno, Santino kinda has this "falls ass-backwards into title reigns" thing going. <_<

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:52:00 PM
#127:


sheamus is face.
del rio is heel.
dragon is ???

if ace is gonna support del rio again (should) and be against sheamus (should), then dragon's kinda left in no man's land. ....thing is, he's too hot to be ignored and that's his scene right now, rematch clause and all. they could, and probably should, simply book him with no explicit alignment. just have him win matches against heels, faces, whatever. he can be his own tweener mode until they find a proper feud, similar to how they dealt with punk.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:52:00 PM
#128:


...i have no idea why i said hiac. yeah, cage.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/03/12 9:53:00 PM
#129:


From: Wanglicious | #127
sheamus is face.
del rio is heel.
dragon is ???


damien sandow is godlike

This is a relevant point you forgot.

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ExThaNemesis
04/03/12 9:54:00 PM
#130:


still buzzing from the END OF AN ERA, wang

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 9:54:00 PM
#131:


This would be an excellent time to revive DB/Henry or something like that.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:54:00 PM
#132:


if there was any relevant point i forgot it's wondering where dean and antonio are in wwe already!

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 9:56:00 PM
#133:


I would not be surprised if Sheamus is a meta-heel from this point on. I've been pretty pissed at him since he squashed Daniel Bryan, and apparently so was the Miami crowd.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/03/12 9:58:00 PM
#134:


They're still learning the WWE style, you schmuck!

DAMIEN SANDOW HAS PAID HIS DUES! HE TEAMED UP WITH TITUS O NEIL FOR A YEAR AND MADE HIM A WRESTLER THAT IS TOLERABLE TO WATCH, YOU SWINE!

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 9:58:00 PM
#135:


From: Rad Link 5 | #133
I would not be surprised if Sheamus is a meta-heel from this point on. I've been pretty pissed at him since he squashed Daniel Bryan, and apparently so was the Miami crowd.


WWE says he's face therefore he is face. This isn't TNA where they will allow the fans to just change someone's alignment overnight. They have to wait long enough so that they can act like it was their idea all along and NOT like they're letting the inmates run the asylum here.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 9:58:00 PM
#136:


...a meta heel?
......sheamus as the new cena?

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FFDragon
04/03/12 9:58:00 PM
#137:


Too lazy to look, is there a Miami Heat YES video yet?

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 10:00:00 PM
#138:


From: SmartMuffin | #135
WWE says he's face therefore he is face. This isn't TNA where they will allow the fans to just change someone's alignment overnight. They have to wait long enough so that they can act like it was their idea all along and NOT like they're letting the inmates run the asylum here.


That's what I mean by meta-heel. WWE keeps saying he's face even though the crowd says "Bulls***! He's a heel! Boooo!"

It's like Cena.

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SmartMuffin
04/03/12 10:02:00 PM
#139:


Well, I also don't think DB is having any more than one match against him, so I don't expect the crowd will hold it against him at all. You really think the marks are going to side with ADR against Sheamus just because of what happened at WM? I wouldn't count on that.

We don't even KNOW yet whether YES and DANIEL BRYAN will carry over to a mark-rich environment AT ALL. It's way too early to be calling stuff like this.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 10:02:00 PM
#140:


so.... would that mean they'll keep dragon as a meta-face? i mean punk was basically that, even holding the company hostage.

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 10:06:00 PM
#141:


From: SmartMuffin | #139
You really think the marks are going to side with ADR against Sheamus just because of what happened at WM?


No. Hell, the Miami crowd was booing ADR just as loud when he announced he was Sheamus's next opponent. People see that as Daniel Bryan's spot.

From: SmartMuffin | #139
We don't even KNOW yet whether YES and DANIEL BRYAN will carry over to a mark-rich environment AT ALL. It's way too early to be calling stuff like this.


Of course we don't know, but I mean it made its way all the way to a professional basketball game. I don't think it's outrageous to think it can cross over to mark-rich environments.

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 10:07:00 PM
#142:


From: Rad Link 5 | #141
No. Hell, the Miami crowd was booing ADR just as loud when he announced he was Sheamus's next opponent. People see that as Daniel Bryan's spot.


But they sure did think "Si! Si! Si!" was cute. <_<

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THEDavyJones
04/03/12 10:12:00 PM
#143:


I think people are putting too much value into that RAW crowd.

Sheamus isn't suddenly going to be booed wherever he goes, especially if he continues facing heels for the time being.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 10:12:00 PM
#144:


if something this over doesn't carry it will be the biggest failure possible. when you're big in a crowd it tends to stick. the bigger the better. marks like fads.

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 10:15:00 PM
#145:


I'm not saying he's going to be treated like a heel everywhere from now on. But I do expect there to be a fair bit of booing almost everywhere from no on, because even some marks are like "damn, that was messed up."

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JaKyL25
04/03/12 10:20:00 PM
#146:


I think we as fans need to stop taking Daniel Bryan for granted.

When things are status quo for him in WWE, he doesn't get tons of support or anything, we just kind of accept that he's a midcarder.

But whenever WWE "wrongs" him like the tie incident or Wrestlemania, it's like the entire smark fanbase FLIPS THE F*** OUT and decides to override WWE shows with chants for him.

Where's this energy during the more normal days fans!?

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Rad Link 5
04/03/12 10:21:00 PM
#147:


And how many people do you think there have been who've participated in a "What?" chant, but weren't actually around for the Austin-era? Let alone for the part of that era when the chant started catching on. But they still participate because it's an incredibly fun, incredibly easy to understand concept.

"YES!" is pretty much the same. No matter how they felt about Bryan before, they see how much fun it is to chant "YES!" with everybody, and they want to be a part of that. I know my cousin, who's way more mark than smark, hated Daniel Bryan before, but loves him since "YES!" became a thing.

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Wanglicious
04/03/12 10:22:00 PM
#148:


we accepted him as midcard!
and then we accepted him as our WORLD
HEAVYWEIGHT
CHAMPION!
YES!
YES!

but they can't take it back that easy. lose title? fine. but job him low? or just kill any momentum for no real reason?
internet murder.

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edwardsdv
04/03/12 10:27:00 PM
#149:


From: SmartMuffin | #135
WWE says he's face therefore he is face. This isn't TNA where they will allow the fans to just change someone's alignment overnight. They have to wait long enough so that they can act like it was their idea all along and NOT like they're letting the inmates run the asylum here.


Yeah, point in case here when Anderson fought Hardy I wasnt sure what alignment he was but i was LEANING heel,

Then he comes out with all the faces in the Hogan segment. All because the Impact Zone kept changing their damn minds about him.

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edwardsdv
04/03/12 10:28:00 PM
#150:


From: Rad Link 5 | #147
And how many people do you think there have been who've participated in a "What?" chant, but weren't actually around for the Austin-era? Let alone for the part of that era when the chant started catching on. But they still participate because it's an incredibly fun, incredibly easy to understand concept.

"YES!" is pretty much the same. No matter how they felt about Bryan before, they see how much fun it is to chant "YES!" with everybody, and they want to be a part of that. I know my cousin, who's way more mark than smark, hated Daniel Bryan before, but loves him since "YES!" became a thing.


I dunno I kinda feel like this is happening just as YES has pretty much run its course, maybe even a little long.

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