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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:23:00 PM
#1:


Yes.

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:23:00 PM
#2:


You know Halo called dibs on the topic, right?

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TheRock1525
03/29/12 8:23:00 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
From: TheRock1525 | #476
Right, but the only reason they didn't wipe out the quarians was because they didn't know what would happen. Not because they felt sorry for them or because they wanted peace.
Dunno why you're using this against the Geth. This is basically the same reason the Quarians wanted to destroy all the new robot AIs.

I'm using against both of them. Neither side really gets much sympathy from me. The Quarians were the aggressors, correct, but the only thing stopping the Geth killing all Quarians was uncertainty then the Geth aren't exactly getting brownie points from me.

Well, to be fair, their uncertainty isn't necessarily a strike against them. The fact that they actually wanted to weigh the implications of the actions instead of just wiping them out is pretty admirable. A lack of emotion from a still developing AI isn't problematic.

And they probably would not have destroyed them anyway because if they believed wiping out the quarians was the best choice, then they would have hunted them down.


Let's keep in mind, though, that the Geth act on consensus. It's entirely possible half the geth believed killing the quarians would be a positive effect, and the other half believed it would be negative. Or 33.3% positive, 33.3% negative, and 33.3% neutral in another case. Remember, during Legion's loyalty mission he had to turn to you for what to do with the Heretics, and was unable to form his own consensus.

It's kinda like our congress!

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:23:00 PM
#4:


I choose this one.

But you guys know I CALLED DIBS. Jerks.

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Pirateking2000
03/29/12 8:24:00 PM
#5:


So what do you all think the DLC will be like

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:24:00 PM
#6:


RayDyn posted...
You know Halo called dibs on the topic, right?

Well, he obviously isn't around or he already would have made it!

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:24:00 PM
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I got your back, Halo.

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ZFS
03/29/12 8:24:00 PM
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for all the bad of the ending this is the first game in a long time where i've thought about and discussed the story in detail so good job bioware

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:25:00 PM
#9:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
I choose this one.

But you guys know I CALLED DIBS. Jerks.


Then don't be TOO SLOW next time!

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:25:00 PM
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From: Pirateking2000 | #005
So what do you all think the DLC will be like


Speculating is pointless since we all thought the ending would give us closure and it didn't.

At this point I won't be surprised if the DLC ending involved finding a mech bigger than galaxies and then the Reapers combine and you have a huge mech battle over the Milky Way Galaxy.

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Pirateking2000
03/29/12 8:26:00 PM
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ShadowHalo17 posted...
From: Pirateking2000 | #005
So what do you all think the DLC will be like
Speculating is pointless since we all thought the ending would give us closure and it didn't.

At this point I won't be surprised if the DLC ending involved finding a mech bigger than galaxies and then the Reapers combine and you have a huge mech battle over the Milky Way Galaxy.


Will we get in an epic fist fight with star kid?

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TheRock1525
03/29/12 8:26:00 PM
#12:


I hope the DLC doesn't involve my Shepard because she is deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead.

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ZFS
03/29/12 8:26:00 PM
#13:


pull up mini-game

the squats of mass effect

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:27:00 PM
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From: ShadowHalo17 | Posted: 3/29/2012 11:25:43 PM | #010
At this point I won't be surprised if the DLC ending involved finding a mech bigger than galaxies and then the Reapers combine and you have a huge mech battle over the Milky Way Galaxy.


I'd be completely fine with that.

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:27:00 PM
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From: RayDyn | #007
I got your back, Halo.


Thanks, bro.

I was too busy being pissed at the result of the Blues game to see that the topic already ended. I thought I had more time. Oh well.

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:27:00 PM
#16:


ZFS posted...
pull up mini-game

the squats of mass effect


As long as the pull-ups have three parts to the motion!

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TheRock1525
03/29/12 8:28:00 PM
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You know, I remember that the ending of The Matrix: Path of Neo involved fighting a giant Agent Smith made out of debris and Agent Smiths, and I thought it was pretty cool and everyone hated it.

By then, though, everyone was so jaded about The Matrix that they'd b**** about it crapping out gold coins.

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:28:00 PM
#18:


From: Pirateking2000 | #011
Will we get in an epic fist fight with star kid?


I never watched the TTGL movie... so that scene you posted in the last topic was completely new (and awesome) to me. I really need to watch that.

From: RayDyn | #014
I'd be completely fine with that.


Me too!

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Dr_Football
03/29/12 8:32:00 PM
#19:


During the middle of the game I thought the DLC might be taking back Omega

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:33:00 PM
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Also, even if the geth didn't reach perfect consensus regarding whether to wipe out the creators, they were obviously all in for making peace with them when the opportunity finally arose, so there's that.

Again, I'm not saying the peace would last. I'm just saying the situation proves that peaceful coexistence is theoretically possible, which the Catalyst doesn't believe and Javik doesn't believe. Plus, these geth are fully developed AI now, so it's not like synthetica gradually working up to rebellion after gaining enough sentience or what have you.

Anyway, that ending. I want clarification more than anything else, but I'm open to whatever. I would also like some explanation for that extra little clip where Shepard wakes up from the rubble, especially.

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TheRock1525
03/29/12 8:34:00 PM
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It's funny how they make the snooty, by-the-books quarian admiral from ME2 ends up being the only good one.

Long live the Qwib Qwib!

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TheRock1525
03/29/12 8:35:00 PM
#22:


Dr_Football posted...
During the middle of the game I thought the DLC might be taking back Omega

Yeah, f*** the ending, THIS is the DLC I want.

It's like, taking back Omega was the one thing I was looking forward to once I got Aria's forces on our side and then finding out we never went there? That was awful.

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:35:00 PM
#23:


He was the only good one in ME2 as well. He was the only one I agreed with, even over Tali, because he wanted peace between the geth rather than war.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/29/12 8:36:00 PM
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From: TheRock1525 | #003
Let's keep in mind, though, that the Geth act on consensus. It's entirely possible half the geth believed killing the quarians would be a positive effect, and the other half believed it would be negative. Or 33.3% positive, 33.3% negative, and 33.3% neutral in another case. Remember, during Legion's loyalty mission he had to turn to you for what to do with the Heretics, and was unable to form his own consensus.

It's kinda like our congress!


Or the Quarian's political system, which also operates on consensus. Except it appears to be run mostly by power-hungry douchebags, and also Tali and that one guy.

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Mass Effect 3: Stealth political commentary? I think so.

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:36:00 PM
#25:


TheRock1525 posted...
It's funny how they make the snooty, by-the-books quarian admiral from ME2 ends up being the only good one.

Long live the Qwib Qwib!


I thought he was the most sensible one, even in ME2!

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Pirateking2000
03/29/12 8:37:00 PM
#26:


TheRock1525 posted...
It's funny how they make the snooty, by-the-books quarian admiral from ME2 ends up being the only good one.

Long live the Qwib Qwib!


its weird how gerrel went total jerk mode in ME3

and Xen...well...Xen was crazy in ME2 so not much change there

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:37:00 PM
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From: Dr_Football | Posted: 3/29/2012 11:32:36 PM | #019
During the middle of the game I thought the DLC might be taking back Omega


I'd be fine with that as well.

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Pirateking2000
03/29/12 8:37:00 PM
#28:


RayDyn posted...
From: Dr_Football | Posted: 3/29/2012 11:32:36 PM | #019
During the middle of the game I thought the DLC might be taking back Omega
I'd be fine with that as well.



If it included possible Aria romance scene it would be good

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:39:00 PM
#29:


Oh it occurred to me that I didn't finish reading the last topic, so I checked it out and you guys were discussing something that I'm too lazy to read. Not sure any of it was that important anyway >_>

However that was the worst ending post we've had in these topics. Jeff Zero is banned from getting last posts.

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ZFS
03/29/12 8:39:00 PM
#30:


Omega what ev

I'm down for anything that tells me what happens with this Shepard gasp at the end.

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TheRock1525
03/29/12 8:39:00 PM
#31:


He may have wanted peace, but he was sure a jerk to me and Tali when I was there. He seemed more cowardly and "WE HAVE TO DO THINGS BY THE BOOK" in ME2, even if I felt he was kinda in the right. On the flip side, Gerrel seemed ambitious but reasonable in ME2, whereas in ME3 he should have been renamed Admiral Kurtz.

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:39:00 PM
#32:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
Oh it occurred to me that I didn't finish reading the last topic, so I checked it out and you guys were discussing something that I'm too lazy to read. Not sure any of it was that important anyway >_>

However that was the worst ending post we've had in these topics. Jeff Zero is banned from getting last posts.


I'm sure you'd take it over what I was going to post!

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:40:00 PM
#33:


I was gonna post

Would have liked to run tests on seashells.

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TheRock1525
03/29/12 8:41:00 PM
#34:


My Shepard didn't gasp.

She's totally a billion molecules floating around the universe.

I bet some of her went up Javik's nose. Take that, you douche!

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:41:00 PM
#35:


From: LeonhartFour | #032
I'm sure you'd take it over what I was going to post!


Which would be...?

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Pirateking2000
03/29/12 8:41:00 PM
#36:


TheRock1525 posted...
He may have wanted peace, but he was sure a jerk to me and Tali when I was there. He seemed more cowardly and "WE HAVE TO DO THINGS BY THE BOOK" in ME2, even if I felt he was kinda in the right. On the flip side, Gerrel seemed ambitious but reasonable in ME2, whereas in ME3 he should have been renamed Admiral Kurtz.

To be fair all the admirals were kind of jerkish during the trial

"Helped save citadel / galaxy from reaper / heretic geth attack? PUT HER ON TRIAL / use her as a scapegoat for geth issue!"

Plus it pisses me off some of the quarians respond if she is exiled (saw on youtube) wtf

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:42:00 PM
#37:


Javik reminds me of my friend Richard, who has the incredibly accurate nickname of Dick.

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:42:00 PM
#38:


From: RayDyn | #033
I was gonna post

Would have liked to run tests on seashells.


This would have been so perfect.

Damn you, JZ.

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ZFS
03/29/12 8:42:00 PM
#39:


RayDyn posted...
I was gonna post

Would have liked to run tests on seashells.


Yes.

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:43:00 PM
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From: Pirateking2000 | #035
Plus it pisses me off some of the quarians respond if she is exiled (saw on youtube) wtf


Examples?

From: RayDyn | #037
Javik reminds me of my friend Richard, who has the incredibly accurate nickname of Dick.


Hahaaaaa that's fantastic.

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:44:00 PM
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I made comment on a Giant Bomb thread in which I stated that few games make me shed a tear even once, ME3 did it thrice.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/29/12 8:44:00 PM
#42:


From: TheRock1525 | #034
My Shepard didn't gasp.

She's totally a billion molecules floating around the universe.

I bet some of her went up Javik's nose. Take that, you douche!


Man just imagine what Javik thought of the green ending. I bet he'd kill himself.

Dammit, now I have to go back and pick blue.

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:45:00 PM
#43:


RayDyn posted...
I made comment on a Giant Bomb thread in which I stated that few games make me shed a tear even once, ME3 did it thrice.

Only the Thane scene actually made me cry. Mordin and Legion got me on the verge but not quite.

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Pirateking2000
03/29/12 8:45:00 PM
#44:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
From: Pirateking2000 | #035
Plus it pisses me off some of the quarians respond if she is exiled (saw on youtube) wtf
Examples?

From: RayDyn | #037
Javik reminds me of my friend Richard, who has the incredibly accurate nickname of Dick.
Hahaaaaa that's fantastic.


how some random quarians are all "lol I knew Tali was guilty she sucks lol" and her old captain was like "Get the **** off of my ship!"

yeah **** you to

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:46:00 PM
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Although I guess I could say ME3 made me cry three times because I cried at that scene all three of my playthroughs.

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ShadowHalo17
03/29/12 8:47:00 PM
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Mordin and Legion got manly tears from me. But I might as well have been balling like a baby for Thane.

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:48:00 PM
#47:


Thane's caused full blown crying, Mordin and Legion caused one or two tears, but not anything like Thane's.

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:49:00 PM
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I can't even start to watch that scene on youtube without tears forming.

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LeonhartFour
03/29/12 8:51:00 PM
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I wonder what that scene is like if you failed Thane's loyalty mission. Does Kolyat still show up?

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RayDyn
03/29/12 8:53:00 PM
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Good question, my gut says no.

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