Board 8 > Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 5

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Raka_Putra
03/20/12 5:42:00 PM
#351:


oh haha wow

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Haguile
03/20/12 5:43:00 PM
#352:


I love the DESPAIR atmosphere right now. People need to solve 3 murders to stay alive, which is glorious.
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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 5:44:00 PM
#353:


Not discounting you could have poisoned Biscuit either Maria. You have a lab and no doubt have chemicals that could easily kill someone.
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saveus_Maria
03/20/12 5:47:00 PM
#354:


Unfortunately I'm not really in a position to defend myself since the only person with evidence regarding that case or access to it is myself. The only thing I can really say in my defense is, does that really seem like something I would do?

My goal in this game has been to stay alive as long as possible and solve as many mysteries as possible.

If I can solve the three remaining mysteries here, I will have accomplished both of my main goals in this game. What more could I ask for?

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Tom Bombadil
03/20/12 5:50:00 PM
#355:


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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 5:50:00 PM
#356:


We know Ryoko's killer, if they are alive basically took a gamble and accepted a strike against them too. That's pretty gutsy, so I'm not ruling anything out.
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_Regaro_
03/20/12 5:51:00 PM
#357:


##Biscuit: No Culprit

Just getting that out of the way

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_Regaro_
03/20/12 5:51:00 PM
#358:


er

##Biscuit: Unvote
##Dexter: No Culprit


yep <_<

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 5:52:00 PM
#359:


##Dexter: No culprit

Yeah, before I forget.
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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 5:52:00 PM
#360:


Considering the lion was fed chocolates, it's a good bet the one who killed Ryoko fed them to the lion.
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Haguile
03/20/12 5:54:00 PM
#361:


From: Dark_Spiral | Posted: 3/20/2012 8:50:58 PM | #356
We know Ryoko's killer, if they are alive basically took a gamble and accepted a strike against them too. That's pretty gutsy, so I'm not ruling anything out.


There's a rule that if you are the killer, you don't get a "real" strike in regards to that murder. You just pretend you did.
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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 5:54:00 PM
#362:


Well that's just lame.
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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 5:55:00 PM
#363:


Well not really, but in this instance they have one less thing to worry about. Damn.
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KanzarisKelshen
03/20/12 5:55:00 PM
#364:


From: saveus_Maria | #350
Without any evidence right now I'm going to give my gut instincts on the murders

Dexter = No Culprit. Easy, he was mauled by the lion.
Ryoko = KCF is the Spider-Man and killed Ryoko, stashed her somewhere in the vents. It is too damn fishy that he's been establishing an alibi for himself intentionally every night and also claims that he was 'unable to pick up his trophy' . . . Yeah right, total BS. He was just trying to protect his role.
Biscuit = I almost want to say (and I may have mentioned this earlier since I've been thinking it) that Sceptile or Dexter is the poisoner. One of them is most likely to be the Serial Killer and I think they poisoned the food before they did. Simple as that.


If KCF is the culprit, when did he get the gun? I don't think it's turned up yes, hasn't it? Don't his confirmed appearances clash with the gun retrieval?

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KanzarisKelshen
03/20/12 5:56:00 PM
#365:


*yet. Small typo.

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 5:56:00 PM
#366:


##Vote: Ryoko's killer, Kanz

Tentatively for now.
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saveus_Maria
03/20/12 5:58:00 PM
#367:


##Vote: Dexter - NO CULPRIT

I'm going to finish watching this ep of marimite then I'll get to work on my list.

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:02:00 PM
#368:


My case on Kanz is pretty cut and dry.

Regaro claims he saw Kanz feeding chocolates to the lion. Kanz tried to deny it, but the only way he could have gotten them is from Ryoko. We also know Kanz can probably move faster than us at the least, the shoes in his trophy would just increase that. It's feasible he killed Ryoko, got her up the second staircase, then dashed back down to meet everyone at 3:57. It's simple, yes, but it's what I've got.
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Haguile
03/20/12 6:03:00 PM
#369:


##Dexter's Murder:

No Culprit[3]: Regaro, Spiral, Maria

##Ryoko's Murder

Kanz[1]: Spiral

##Biscuit's Murder

No Culprit[0]: Regaro.
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_Regaro_
03/20/12 6:03:00 PM
#370:


From: Dark_Spiral | Posted: 3/20/2012 8:02:35 PM | #368
Regaro claims he saw Kanz feeding chocolates to the lion


uh what

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:04:00 PM
#371:


You made a mention of chocolates and the lion, did you not?
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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:05:00 PM
#372:


Basically what I'm asking is this, did you or did you not see anyone feed the lion chocolates? If not that means they had access to the second floor before everyone else and had to have used the other stairway.
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_Regaro_
03/20/12 6:05:00 PM
#373:


I never sad I saw Kanz feeding my lion.

Just that the Lion was fed with chocolate when I found him

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:05:00 PM
#374:


##Unvote: Kanz

Thanks. Going to figure this thing out one part at a time.
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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:06:00 PM
#375:


Well second floor or the vents. Trying to get organized, going to think.
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Solfadore
03/20/12 6:10:00 PM
#376:


##Vote Dexter: No culprit

Getting that out of the way. I'll be back with theories for the remaining two murders.

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:19:00 PM
#377:


##Vote: Ryoko's killer. Herself or no culprit if that applies.

Done for now, be back later.
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KanzarisKelshen
03/20/12 6:19:00 PM
#378:


From: Dark_Spiral | #374
##Unvote: Kanz

Thanks. Going to figure this thing out one part at a time.


Good thing this got cleared up because I was preparing a quotepost followed by the world's biggest 'hurrrrr' here.

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Solfadore
03/20/12 6:27:00 PM
#379:


By the way, since we're all in deep, deep ****, I would offer that everyone roleclaim to me in PM.

- I'm a confirmed inflatable boat master, so neither serial killer nor Spidey. Further, I have a distinct trophy from the SK (so I'm most definitely not the SK); and my vent was untampered with (so no Spidey either - ask Maria for confirmation).

- I haven't set foot in the store, nor the trophy room the whole game. You can doublecheck all my day posts if you want. As for the night...

a) I spent the first twenty minutes of N1 going back and forth between my room and the incinerator to hide my food (KP was there for part of it, so he can confirm). Did not get out of my room after 22:20 (KCF can confirm). Whoever investigated the incinerator can also confirm traces of burnt food there.

b) I spent the first forty minutes or so of N2 watching the Spiral/Biscuit fight (Spiral can confirm). Immediately returned to my room afterward and did not get out again (KCF can confirm).

c) I went on the second floor on N3 at 22:19 (KCF can confirm me leaving my room at 22:07; Reg can confirm me being there at 22:19 - it takes 12 minutes to go from my room to the 2nd staircase). Was at the 2nd floor until 3:57, at which time KP/KCF can confirm that I went back to my room and did not go out. Besides, I was with Biscuit the whole time; I think he would've noticed me poisoning the very same food/water he ate/drank the following day.

- Since it was impossible for me to set foot in the store or to get access to the Serial Killer trophy, and since I'm not the Serial Killer myself, I can't have gotten my hand on cyanide, which was most likely used for Biscuit's death (and before you ask how I know that: I got a book on the Serial Killer that says that they kill by cyanide).



ACCORDINGLY, I'm entirely clear for both Ryoko's and Biscuit's murder - and most probably the only one among us who can claim that. Yes, that includes you too, Maria, who may try to act all innocent but is indeed a suspect regarding Biscuit's murder, at least. So I would offer that all of you claim to me in private - namely the two or three of you who didn't - so we can have an easier time identifying Spidey/SK. If you don't want to and would prefer taking a mad gamble on both killers' identity, it's your call.

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saveus_Maria
03/20/12 6:30:00 PM
#380:


If Ryoko killed herself she did it somewhere that I couldn't find her, because my investigation of the women's changing room revealed nothing. I find it much more likely we've been looking at this entire thing the wrong way, but I have no idea where to even begin reasoning this mess out at this point. The only thing I can think of is that the spider-man killed her and stashed her somewhere in the vents (point; apparently there were MULTIPLE wave machines located in the vents. the one we activated took us right up to the second floor. it's possible Ryoko or her corpse were somewhere else at the time), if there even IS a Spider-Man. . . Which brings me to the next problem I've run into. . .

Here's my list I was able to come up with:

Dead:
SSBM - Super Spy
biscuit - Wrestler (confirmed by trophy)

Potential SKs:
Dexter28 - Unknown
Eternal Rival(KCF) - Unknown
shadosneko - Unknown
Sceptile - Uknown

Questionable:
Tom - Zombie (There was a trophy confirming the role he PM'd me, although I consider this a weak alibi for multiple reasons. If he examined the trophy case ahead of time he could have known it was there, he might have claimed something he saw in the example roles, and also you guys don't have to trust me that this is what he PM'd me or that I saw a Zombie trophy)

Publicly Confirmed:
saveus_Maria - CSI (confirmed by trophy)
Spiral - Journalist (confirmed by trophy)
Kanz - Runner (confirmed by trophy)

^ Hilarious that people try to resist me every ****ing step of the way and the only, ONLY thing I'm trying to do is establish your alibis. Thank you Spiral for co-operating for once, as we now know you're not the serial killer. Kan, you can go to hell for forcing Biscuit to attack you and managing to have yourself confirmed as not the serial killer. I hate when people are rewarded for bad behavior.

Host Confirmed:
Ushiromiya Kamikaze - Vanilla
Solfadore - Inflatable Boat Master
Regaro - Lion Tamer
Ryoko - Confirmed Fat Girl
Silverline182V - Alchemist
JC - Surfer


and here's the kicker. . .

Remaining trophies:
Super High School Level Psychic
Super High School Level Spy
Super High School Level Zombie (confirms that Tom probably/possibly wasn't lying)
Super High School Level Avenger

There's also the Serial Killer trophy which KP and I traded in. You know what this means? No poisoner role and no Spider-Man role.

So Ryoko was the Spider-Woman (?) and. . . Then what? Anyone got ideas?

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:32:00 PM
#381:


##Use the new camera I got from my trophy's zoom feature on everyone in the trial room. Focus on their hands first and anything that looks out of place. See if it gives me any insight. Expecting the results to be PM'ed, etc.
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saveus_Maria
03/20/12 6:32:00 PM
#382:


Now the bad and the ugly:

1) As mentioned before I couldn't even FIND Ryoko's corpse.
2) I did not get to investigate Dexter because I delegated Justin to take care of that while I searched the second floor for other clues
3) My fingerprint tests did not give back ANY results on the vending machine or on Biscuit's consumed food

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:35:00 PM
#383:


##Also doing as Maria says
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saveus_Maria
03/20/12 6:35:00 PM
#384:


Oh and Justin was saying yesterday that we should do this, so in his absence I'm going to try it and we'll see if it turns up any results

##Uses her Walkie Talkie to command Spiral to sniff everyone in the trial room to see if their hands smell like wax and have him report the results back to me

EDIT (To avoid double posting): I think the purpose behind this was the fact that Justin put wax on the machine on Day 2, meaning we might get a clue as to who used the machine. Checking my logs he also says that Kanzaris may have wax even if he didn't use the machine, but if Kanzaris doesn't then neither should shados (no damn clue?)

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:37:00 PM
#385:


Nobody smells like wax. Didn't see anything either.
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Haguile
03/20/12 6:38:00 PM
#386:


From: saveus_Maria | Posted: 3/20/2012 9:32:47 PM | #382
3) My fingerprint tests did not give back ANY results on the vending machine or on Biscuit's consumed food


To clarify--since it is my fault for not being clear on my pm--there were no results on that besides Biscuit's own fingerprints. There were signs of the fingerprints on the bottle being wiped before.
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KanzarisKelshen
03/20/12 6:38:00 PM
#387:


From: saveus_Maria | #380
Publicly Confirmed:
saveus_Maria - CSI (confirmed by trophy)
Spiral - Journalist (confirmed by trophy)
Kanz - Runner (confirmed by trophy)

^ Hilarious that people try to resist me every ****ing step of the way and the only, ONLY thing I'm trying to do is establish your alibis. Thank you Spiral for co-operating for once, as we now know you're not the serial killer. Kan, you can go to hell for forcing Biscuit to attack you and managing to have yourself confirmed as not the serial killer. I hate when people are rewarded for bad behavior.


It's called smart play. Everybody should have stayed the **** away from me until I was able to confirm something about the watches, for good reason.

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Solfadore
03/20/12 6:40:00 PM
#388:


So the cyanide was in the water, then.

KCF and shados --> I would really suggest that you claim to me in private. If not, you will be the most likely suspects and, whether you're right or not, might get booted and die. Your call.

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saveus_Maria
03/20/12 6:40:00 PM
#389:


Okay there's something weird going on with the vending machine. Great.

From: Haguile | #386
To clarify--since it is my fault for not being clear on my pm--there were no results on that besides Biscuit's own fingerprints. There were signs of the fingerprints on the bottle being wiped before.




. . . And apparently the killer was smart enough to wipe his prints. . . Meaning he PROBABLY poisoned the food after night 1 (after I revealed I could dust for fingerprints). Fantastic. I love getting further and further away from the truth the more evidence we get.

From: KanzarisKelshen | #387
It's called smart play. Everybody should have stayed the **** away from me until I was able to confirm something about the watches, for good reason.


Well since it doesn't matter now what were you going to do?

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KamikazePotato
03/20/12 6:42:00 PM
#390:


##Vote: Dexter - NO CULPRIT

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saveus_Maria
03/20/12 6:46:00 PM
#391:


KP, how does your ability to open doors and trophy cabinets work by the way? What are the stipulations?

I find it interesting you could get the Serial Killer trophy after Sceptile was dead
You couldn't get into Silver's room (while he was alive)
and you COULD get into Ryoko's room yesterday

assuming you can only claim things from people who are already dead this would confirm Scept as the Serial Killer and confirm Ryoko as being dead before yesterday (shattering all of our assumptions that we came up with over this entire trial phase)

I'm sort of hoping this ISN'T the case because I'm working on another weird theory right now (which sounds kind of nuts though).

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_Regaro_
03/20/12 6:47:00 PM
#392:


From: Solfadore | Posted: 3/20/2012 8:27:44 PM | #379
ACCORDINGLY, I'm entirely clear for both Ryoko's and Biscuit's murder - and most probably the only one among us who can claim that


hey now what about me

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KanzarisKelshen
03/20/12 6:50:00 PM
#393:


From: saveus_Maria | #389
Okay there's something weird going on with the vending machine. Great.

[quoted text]



. . . And apparently the killer was smart enough to wipe his prints. . . Meaning he PROBABLY poisoned the food after night 1 (after I revealed I could dust for fingerprints). Fantastic. I love getting further and further away from the truth the more evidence we get.

[quoted text]

Well since it doesn't matter now what were you going to do?


Think about possible solutions, what else? Also, wonder what the hell the insanity functions actually did or if they were just fluff.

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:50:00 PM
#394:


I'm actually interested in another theory, but it's pretty out there.
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_Regaro_
03/20/12 6:51:00 PM
#395:


From: Dark_Spiral | Posted: 3/20/2012 8:50:28 PM | #394
I'm actually interested in another theory, but it's pretty out there.


yes yes you have an "out there" and almost certainly wrong theory

what else is new

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:52:00 PM
#396:


We know whoever put the poison in there has to have done it at night. While it's easy enough to avoid the dried blood and glass shards(Who would want to walk through them?) Chances were they stepped in that same blood at night since the area is pitch dark and they'd have to fumble their way to the kitchen. Not sure what that means, but it could give us something.(Unless the poison was placed N1 by someone like Scept)
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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:53:00 PM
#397:


Your fleabag of a lion is dead. You failed it. Suck it Reg.
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saveus_Maria
03/20/12 6:53:00 PM
#398:


From: Dark_Spiral | #394
I'm actually interested in another theory, but it's pretty out there.


I might as well share mine then:

What if we were RIGHT about Ryoko being the Spider-Woman and trying to fake her death, but she was killed accidentally by the wave machine when me and Justin turned it on. If she was hiding in the vents at the time, the water pressure would have probably crushed her.

I know it sounds crazy but it wouldn't be the first accidental death we've had, and it sort of makes sense because I don't see any trophies that have Spider-Man written on them. The only thing to consider would be whether me or Justin is the culprit in that case. I'm not really sure, although he did turn the key to the wave machine.

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Dark_Spiral
03/20/12 6:54:00 PM
#399:


Remember, I had that loud sound right before the bullet fell near me. A single bullet falling on the carpet of my room isn't going to wake me up. Now if the wave machine caused her to fumble the gun and backfire on her, that makes a lot of sense.
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Solfadore
03/20/12 6:55:00 PM
#400:


Or, you know, the lion could have just eaten Ryoko because he was angry. Just throwing that out there. Make nothing of it.

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