##Uses her Walkie Talkie to command Spiral to sniff everyone in the trial room to see if their hands smell like wax and have him report the results back to me
ok, WHAT THE **** is Spiral doing sniffing things? THATS MY ROLE
I am Super High School Level Scooby Doo. I can sniff things.
Also, I'm still pretty busy right now, sorry. I need to read the things in more depth before I talk more, but seriously, this is pretty fishy to me.
From: shadosneko | Posted: 3/20/2012 11:11:23 PM | #456 I took it back to my room last night while everyone else was derping around up stairs getting killed.
lol Reg revealing stuff about KP. Thanks, I guess, but that was really, really foolish. And really uncalled for. Had you not said anything, some stupid murderer might have tried to pin whatever crime they did on KP being able to open doors. Even better, KP himself might have tried to murder someone, following which we would've found two bodies and not be able to understand anything. Which would've given you the win. Too bad for you, I guess!
Shados, how about you provide some detail on your role? Aside from sniffing things? I can also create a whole new role if I want to (well, no I can't since I'm already host-confirmed, but you catch my drift).
Attn: people who have investigated the trophy room before last night: was there such a thing as a Scooby-Doo trophy?
KCF, you really, really, really need to claim. Like as soon as you read this.
-- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore
Well that at least explains the missing trophy (shados claim seems to be pretty legit) but it's also sort of disappointing because I was hoping to catch the serial killer/poisoner/spider-man person in a trap via the missing trophy and get them to foolishly reveal themselves.
Back sooner than expected btw. Oh, and Silver smelling like wax. . . That means he used the store an ADDITIONAL time after ordering a land mine on day 1, correct? If Silver is dead in the trial room right now can you guys search his body to see what he has on him?
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By the way, I think we're all forgetting about the letter I found in Ryoko's room. Haguile says that it was signed as 'Monobear', but does that really make sense? Would Monobear send a player a personal letter warning them about something?
I think it's far more likely that someone faked the note and faked the signature to draw Ryoko out of hiding....unless Monobear himself wants to come out and say that a letter with his signature on it would definitely come from him.
Furthermore, if we interpreted the letter right and it really said 'not really fat', and it came from a player and not Monobear, than that player probably had a role that gave them the deductive reasoning skills to find out that Ryoko was not really fat. Out of these roles, only CSI, Spy, and Super Spy would fit.
I'd like some clarification on the poison in the trophy that me and Lisel traded in. Did it definitely have all of the poison still left in it? Could our characters' judgement have been wrong?
Ryoko as the spider woman could not be killed by normal means. It makes me think back to Maria again, who had access to chemicals that could easily have killed her, especially if they were set up in the vent like a trap.
Edit: It really does reek of the whole perfect crime crap, especially since Maria's the only one who has access to their lab, an understanding of it, and can alter whatever they'd like to fit their story too.
You were the one who brought up the fat suit initially Maria, which means that fits with the letter we found especially if it's forged. You were also the prime target for the Spider woman since you'd already shown the capability to luminol, finger print, etc. I think using those chemicals you either placed a trap in or around your vent and waited, possibly something that would have exploded. Ryoko tries to get rid of you and your lab, but she's caught up in whatever you've planned and as a result is killed, probably a small explosion. It explains the noise I heard, and the bullet likely was thrown across the vent from the force and fell down into my room. You were also in the perfect position to cover your tracks since you could dictate what you investigate and what you don't. I think you've played a terrific game, and even if I'm wrong about Dexter killing Biscuit I'll make sure I go down having gotten you.
From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 3/21/2012 9:02:51 AM | #470 I'd like some clarification on the poison in the trophy that me and Lisel traded in. Did it definitely have all of the poison still left in it? Could our characters' judgement have been wrong?
Yeah. The number of people who actually had access to poison looks like it's restricted to
1. People with a role that could make them start with poison. 2. People who could steal the poison from those people who started with it. 3. People who visited the school store at one point in time.
List of Roles:
SSBM (Super High School Level Super Spy) Dexter28 (Super High School Level ????) Ushiromiya Kamikaze (Super High School Level Vanilla) Solfadore (Super High School Level Inflatable Boat Master) Eternal Rival (KCF) (Super High School Level ????) shadosneko (Super High School Level ????) Tom (Super High School Level ????) Regaro (Super High School Level Lion Tamer) Kanz (Super High School Level Runner) Ryoko (Super High School Level Fat Girl) Sceptile (Super High School Level ????) Silverline182V (Super High School Level Alchemist) saveus_Maria (Super High School Level CSI) Biscuit (Super High School Level Wrestler) JC (Super High School Level Surfer) Spiral (Super High School Level Journalist)
Those are all the 100% confirmed roles, I believe. This leaves out the Psychic, the Spy, the Zombie, the Avenger, and the Fat Girl (which we know Ryoko is but she may or may not also be something else at the same time). It also assumes that Lisel isn't lying to us. If he is, we're in trouble.
I'm curious about the Avenger role. It's the vaguest of the bunch.
Also, here's a problematic question: how long has Ryoko been dead? All we know is that, at the time we voted, she was dead. She could have only died a minute before that and it would still count against us. We know where she probably was at some point, but we can't even find the body. Was she dead the entire time she was missing or she die partway? Not easy to tell.
Actually, we probably should have checked the contents of the lion's stomach.
There would have still been a broken bone, a mangled corpse, something. SSBM was proof of that. Those who went after the lion saw nothing. I think she died the night the bullet fell into my room more than likely. She's probably in the vent where she died.
Also, Lisel's tried to throw red herrings in our face too. The wave machine killing Ryoko, really? JC found the key three days ago, without it the machine doesn't work. That was before Ryoko vanished, and even if she knew the machine was there(Which only JC could have seen) she couldn't have activated it, nor would she have wanted to.
From: KamikazePotato | #479 Actually, we probably should have checked the contents of the lion's stomach.
I told Justin to do this and he said it was a stupid idea. Well I guess it doesn't matter now since we never got the results of his investigation anyway.
From: Dark_Spiral | #475 You were the one who brought up the fat suit initially Maria, which means that fits with the letter we found especially if it's forged. You were also the prime target for the Spider woman since you'd already shown the capability to luminol, finger print, etc. I think using those chemicals you either placed a trap in or around your vent and waited, possibly something that would have exploded. Ryoko tries to get rid of you and your lab, but she's caught up in whatever you've planned and as a result is killed, probably a small explosion. It explains the noise I heard, and the bullet likely was thrown across the vent from the force and fell down into my room. You were also in the perfect position to cover your tracks since you could dictate what you investigate and what you don't. I think you've played a terrific game, and even if I'm wrong about Dexter killing Biscuit I'll make sure I go down having gotten you.
I did set up a trap in my room on Night 3, the night I assumed the Spider-Man was going to come and try to destroy my lab. S/he never showed up. However, the trap was non-lethal. I intended for them to get burned slightly so the next day I could check everyone for signs of a burn.
Also in my lab I don't actually have access to any chemicals. All I have is an infinite supply of Luminol, and the Bleach that I took from the Store Room on Night 1. One of the items I traded in at the store was the Bleach for some acid with strong vapors, that would burn the Spider-Man if he tried to climb in through my vent during the night.
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That doesn't make much sense. Didn't everyone just go through that fire and still have burns from it a few days ago? Those just don't vanish, even if they slightly healed up.
Also, how would the slight burn have stopped them from destroying your lab and coming after you? If they came in anyways and killed you for example, what you'd done would have been worthless. I don't believe you when you're telling me your trap was non lethal at all. It was designed to at the least incapacitate Spider woman to protect yourself, so I think you're lying to me.
A chemical burn is way different from the burn from a fire. Plus, if the Spider-Man crawled through the vents to take the gun they wouldn't have ever been burned in the fire.
How about this, if you don't believe me, KCF can tell you what time I left my room during Night 3 to go hide in Biscuit's room with Solfadore (spoilers - I never actually left my room. I set up the vapor trap and then hid in my bathroom the entire night).
Also when I was referring to the wave machine, I was talking about more along the lines of what KP is saying:
1. If Ryoko IS the Spider-Woman (lack of a Spider-Man trophy), maybe what happened is that at the end of the last phase me and Justin were stuck in the vents and Ryoko WAS Alive at that time, but she was also hiding in the vents.
2. When Justin turned the key, the Wave Machine turned on and we rode the surfboard on the waves up through to floor 2 to look for Ryoko or her corpse. Only, instead of hiding in the changing room like you guys all thought, she was actually just hiding somewhere in the vents. The same waves that took me and Justin up to the second floor flooded the vents and crushed/drowned Ryoko during this time. Meaning there was no actual 'culprit' for Ryoko's murder, and she was alive at the time when the trial began. However, due to the wave machine crushing her, she ended up being dead by the time our votes were tallied - forcing us all to take a strike.
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From: Dark_Spiral | #485 Also, how would the slight burn have stopped them from destroying your lab and coming after you? If they came in anyways and killed you for example, what you'd done would have been worthless. I don't believe you when you're telling me your trap was non lethal at all. It was designed to at the least incapacitate Spider woman to protect yourself, so I think you're lying to me.
I was banking on the fact that if he was in the vent above my room and felt himself being burned by vapors from acid he would back off and leave. Either way it ended up being ultimately pointless since if Ryoko was the Spider-Man that means she very well might have been burned by my trap and I couldn't check her anyway due to her being in hiding this whole time.
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Here's a question. If you could act during the trial, why couldn't she? The moment she'd seen that wave machine why didn't she just hop down from the vents if she had in fact been hiding there?
And I don't buy the whole, she was alive, now she's dead so you all pay for it. It's basically saying we were right, but on principle we're all taking a strike regardless.
I have no idea, I don't even know how the vents work. From what I saw of them, they were like an intricate maze though so maybe she couldn't get out quickly enough to escape the water. This is really the only theory I can think of that fits with Ryoko being the Spider-Man and me being unable to locate her when I searched the entire second floor (and then finding out she was actually dead).
Anything else I can think of involves the Spider-Man role not even really existing, and you yourself are the one who has said that there is definitely a Spider-Man, right? By the way, if I killed her on Night 3 why did she disappear on Night 2?
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1. Ryoko IS the Spider-Woman 2. She was DEAD the entire time she was missing 3. Someone killed her on Night 2 and found a way to hide her body so completely none of us could find it (but how? and who?)
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From: Dark_Spiral | #494 Ryoko could not be killed by normal means, that's the problem. Very few people in this game would be able to pull it off.
And I'm saying I don't know what makes you think that I could have been the one who did it when I never had a weapon until after she disappeared. Well, I stole my knife on the night that she disappeared (at the time there were two knives missing, KP and Solfadore's knives) but even then I didn't know she was missing until the next morning. And if we survive until tomorrow I can show you guys my knife. It has never been used. It is still sitting in my bathroom right now. That's also the same night I went to the store - so anything that I ordered that I could have used to kill her wouldn't have arrived until the next day.
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The only other thing that stands out at me is Solfa's eagerness to absolve himself completely of everything to the point he keeps reminding us over and over, that's it.