Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 171: Against All Odds, a good TNA PPV!

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Lopen
02/11/12 9:06:00 PM
#251:


Well I just mean it almost never leads to firings. Yeah, they "get theirs" but it's almost never from management

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TheRock1525
02/11/12 9:07:00 PM
#252:


Cause you can't really fire Vince. >_>

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Viktor Vaughn
02/11/12 9:13:00 PM
#253:


you guys'll see

johnny ace will get gtsed into a garbage truck after a mock trial where kelly kelly suddenly becomes competent and testifies about him being a jerk

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 9:13:00 PM
#254:


Unrelated ROH Topic featuring SLIGHT FUTURE TV SHOW SPOILERS

This whole "Blind Destiny" deal for the WM Weekend Shows is pretty interesting.

1.) 3 guys qualify for the concept on the TV show (SPOILERS the qualifiers are Lethal, Elgin, and Steen)

2.) On Night 1 of the WM Weekend Shows, the World Title will be defended: Davey Richards (c) vs. Roderick Strong vs. Eddie Edwards.

3.) Each of the Blind Destiny qualifiers will be randomly "assigned" to one of those three guys and scheduled to face him on Night 2.

4.) Whoever walks out of the Three Way with the title will defend it on Night Two against their randomly chosen Blind Destiny opponent.


Now on some level this seems needlessly complicated...but I think it's actually easier to visualize than it is to write down.

And whoa boy, whenever they inevitably reveal that Steen drew Davey (because you know he will), the tension in the company on Night One will be off the charts.

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/11/12 9:15:00 PM
#255:


From: Viktor Vaughn | #253
you guys'll see

johnny ace will get gtsed into a garbage truck after a mock trial where kelly kelly suddenly becomes competent and testifies about him being a jerk


This idea is stupid and needs more Triple H.

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TheRock1525
02/11/12 9:18:00 PM
#256:


And midgets.

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ScareChan
02/11/12 10:56:00 PM
#257:


I don't know whats more odd-- A TNA topic or the fact that you guys spent six pages talking about if CM Punk is boring or not


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Dr_Football
02/11/12 10:56:00 PM
#258:


https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ/statuses/168570014457278464

I would buy this DVD

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Wanglicious
02/11/12 10:58:00 PM
#259:


oh man. i'd buy that dvd and i don't buy any of these.

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we have someone explain why the hell he always has to be embarrassed in his home state.

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TheRock1525
02/11/12 11:03:00 PM
#260:


I hope we get to see McMahon pull stuff out of his ass again!

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TimJab
02/12/12 7:06:00 AM
#261:


From: JaKyL25 | #254
Unrelated ROH Topic featuring SLIGHT FUTURE TV SHOW SPOILERS

This whole "Blind Destiny" deal for the WM Weekend Shows is pretty interesting.

1.) 3 guys qualify for the concept on the TV show (SPOILERS the qualifiers are Lethal, Elgin, and Steen)

2.) On Night 1 of the WM Weekend Shows, the World Title will be defended: Davey Richards (c) vs. Roderick Strong vs. Eddie Edwards.

3.) Each of the Blind Destiny qualifiers will be randomly "assigned" to one of those three guys and scheduled to face him on Night 2.

4.) Whoever walks out of the Three Way with the title will defend it on Night Two against their randomly chosen Blind Destiny opponent.


Now on some level this seems needlessly complicated...but I think it's actually easier to visualize than it is to write down.

And whoa boy, whenever they inevitably reveal that Steen drew Davey (because you know he will), the tension in the company on Night One will be off the charts.


haven't been keeping up with ROH but

richards vs. steen for the world title
lethal vs. roddy for the tv title
eddie vs. elgin

seems likely yeah

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JaKyL25
02/12/12 8:02:00 AM
#262:


That would be the logical setup, sure, but there's also a chance they do Strong vs. Elgin leading to an Elgin face turn. A little too soon but possible.

Strong already has a TV Title shot in the bag, so after he doesn't win the World Title on Night 1 they might just go ahead and say their Night 2 match is his TV Title match, sure.

Lethal might not be the TV Champion by then though. Tommaso Ciampa has a TV Title shot incoming too, and the 10th Anniversary Show seems like the perfect time for it, and he still has an undefeated streak going.

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JaKyL25
02/12/12 1:58:00 PM
#263:


According to loldirtsheets, TNA creative has been shaken up again.

Since sometime last fall, Russo had been demoted to just a contributor and Bruce Pritchard has been head of creative.

Supposedly as of tonight's PPV, Russo is off the team entirely, Pritchard is down to contributor, and Dave Lagana has taken over as head of creative, on the heels of his success as the creative head of Ring Ka King.

TNA making moves!

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Rad Link 5
02/12/12 2:31:00 PM
#264:


Last night I dreamt that Santino and Vladimir Kozlov had an epic chain wrestling masterpiece at Wrestlemania.

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Bidoof
02/12/12 2:39:00 PM
#265:


JaKyL25 posted...
According to loldirtsheets, TNA creative has been shaken up again.

Since sometime last fall, Russo had been demoted to just a contributor and Bruce Pritchard has been head of creative.

Supposedly as of tonight's PPV, Russo is off the team entirely, Pritchard is down to contributor, and Dave Lagana has taken over as head of creative, on the heels of his success as the creative head of Ring Ka King.

TNA making moves!


About ****in' time, but one has to wonder if it's too little too late. A lot of people have already made up their minds about TNA.
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Bidoof
02/12/12 2:40:00 PM
#266:


Also, how effective can any creative change be when you have people who can just step in and change everything however they want?
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GTM
02/12/12 2:40:00 PM
#267:


he wanted competition!

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edwardsdv
02/12/12 2:41:00 PM
#268:


From: JaKyL25 | #263
According to loldirtsheets, TNA creative has been shaken up again.

Since sometime last fall, Russo had been demoted to just a contributor and Bruce Pritchard has been head of creative.

Supposedly as of tonight's PPV, Russo is off the team entirely, Pritchard is down to contributor, and Dave Lagana has taken over as head of creative, on the heels of his success as the creative head of Ring Ka King.

TNA making moves!


Oh man... I can FEEL IT..

Bubba Ray Dudley is gonna be the WorldChamp.

#TNATonight

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Chronic1000
02/12/12 3:35:00 PM
#269:


Just so you guys know, Masahiro Chono - Team 2000 Crash won Best Wrestling Theme Song.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/61933642

I'm also gauging interested in a BWTS: Popular Songs tournament. For those interested, express it in the other topic.

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SmartMuffin
02/12/12 3:36:00 PM
#270:


I like how TNA ended its final show before the PPV by having the world champion tap out clean to a 50 year old man who isn't even on the active roster.

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Wanglicious
02/12/12 3:39:00 PM
#271:


is dave lagana any good in that role?

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JaKyL25
02/12/12 3:47:00 PM
#272:


From: SmartMuffin | #270
I like how TNA ended its final show before the PPV by having the world champion tap out clean to a 50 year old man who isn't even on the active roster.


That 50 year-old man was World Champion as recently as early August! <_<

From: Wanglicious | #271
is dave lagana any good in that role?


Well there's a lot of conflicting reports coming in about this. All we know FOR SURE is that Vince Russo is not there, and Dave Lagana is, and is writing the pre-taped promos for the PPV. As of now, all that it is safe to assume is that Russo is gone and that Lagana is in good standing to replace him, but there's no evidence to say that Bruce Pritchard is out as head of creative.

As to whether or not Lagana would be good in that role, he was the head booker of the ECW brand from January 2007 until January 2008, so how much did you enjoy the Lashley/Morrison/Punk eras on that show?

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Wanglicious
02/12/12 3:49:00 PM
#273:


enjoyed it enough to watch TNA regularly, thanks.
while i'm at it, what has bruce done exactly? i seriously know nothing of bookers.

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JaKyL25
02/12/12 3:57:00 PM
#274:


Basically everything since roughly Bound For Glory, so the Roode heel turn and title reign, Storm vs. Angle, Aries's reign, etc.

Before that he had never been head booker anywhere but he was a long-time WWE creative member. As an on-screen character you may remember him as Brother Love.

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JaKyL25
02/12/12 4:38:00 PM
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JaKyL25
02/12/12 4:39:00 PM
#276:


I guess there was already a chat.

RingKagainstAllOdds

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SmartMuffin
02/12/12 5:52:00 PM
#277:


ow much did you enjoy the Lashley/Morrison/Punk eras on that show?

Lashley was awful but Morrison/Punk was pretty godly and may have been the last *really good* midcard feud WWE has even had...

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voltch
02/12/12 6:43:00 PM
#278:


FEEBLE WOMAN

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Wanglicious
02/12/12 7:51:00 PM
#279:


so i'm on the fast train to the dark side with no way back.

i liked a TNA PPV.

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Lopen
02/12/12 8:00:00 PM
#280:


Topic title delivers!

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JaKyL25
02/12/12 8:28:00 PM
#281:


Aries vs. Shelley the new leader in the MotY race!

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edwardsdv
02/12/12 8:32:00 PM
#282:


From: Wanglicious | #279
so i'm on the fast train to the dark side with no way back.

i liked a TNA PPV.


Welcome to the club

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voltch
02/12/12 8:51:00 PM
#283:


Anti-Christy Hemme chat the best.

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SmartMuffin
02/12/12 8:53:00 PM
#284:


didnt watch tonight, but as someone who was REALLY anti-Hemme when she started, I feel like she actually is improving and has now reached the level of "adequate"

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RL5
02/12/12 9:11:00 PM
#285:


Christy Hemme vs Big Fat Oily Guy was a five star match.

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RL5
02/12/12 9:12:00 PM
#286:


Also smuffin I accidentally clicked on your blog. You're welcome.

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SmartMuffin
02/12/12 9:40:00 PM
#287:


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Pope's prayers and thoughts are with @TNASorensen who suffered a neck injury tonight. Godspeed in getting well. ~ PHS





Uh... is it serious?

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edwardsdv
02/12/12 9:43:00 PM
#288:


From: SmartMuffin | #284
didnt watch tonight, but as someone who was REALLY anti-Hemme when she started, I feel like she actually is improving and has now reached the level of "adequate"


Two words: Bully Ray

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Bidoof
02/12/12 9:45:00 PM
#289:


SmartMuffin posted...
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Uh... is it serious?


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SemiFinal vs Belarus
02/12/12 9:57:00 PM
#290:


Yeah, I really enjoyed the TNA PPV. (I can't believe I just typed that.)

I guess I'll give Impact another shot, too.

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Wanglicious
02/12/12 9:58:00 PM
#291:


yeah, it was a spot where i'm not sure who made the mistake more - sorensen appears to be at fault from it but those kinds of spots are the toughest to gauge as to who's at fault, or if it's a mix of both.


but he took a knee from above that landed dead center of his head. knocked him out cold legit.

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XIII_rocks
02/13/12 12:07:00 AM
#292:


Topic on the PWB saying WWE had made Cody Rhodes "completely uninteresting". I responded with this:

I was thinking this the other day. He's lost his psychotic edge since the feud with Booker T, I think.

He's still great in the ring and on the mic but his character isn't quite as entertaining as it used to be. I liked the combination of dashing/grotesque at first but it's kind of fizzled out and all that's left is his cockiness. He's not quite another "generic cocky heel" yet, he's too good for that, but he certainly isn't as unique as he used to be.


Anyone else feel like this? The Grotesque character was great, but I agreed it was time for a change. But sometime during or after the feud with Booker he degenerated and he lost that edge he used to have I think.

Still awesome, just not quite as good as he was for pretty much all of 2011

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Lopen
02/13/12 12:28:00 AM
#293:


Well, his first feud after losing the mask was against Booker T (Orton was before that and made him lose the mask) so I would be inclined to think that it was more that the change hadn't "settled in" yet given that feud started so soon after he lost the mask and changed to the combination.

Either Cody settled more into the cocky side or it just took you (me?) a while to realize he'd lost his spark. I personally think it's actually the former though and that you're kinda right, but it's ultimately the gimmick change that did it cause it happened pretty shortly after the gimmick changed.

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XIII_rocks
02/13/12 12:45:00 AM
#294:


JaKyL had Cody down as "still a monster, but now a confident monster" or something about a week after the change and that seemed like a good description of him. Cody's promos about being "unbound" and stuff were good, comic-booky, unique in a company where a lot of heels are the same. He had this kind of bizarre face thing going on where he shifted from smiles to frowns really quickly too which made you think "wow, this guy is off his rocker".

And then you see his promo at the start of Smackdown last week and it's like "oh really? This is it?"

The best thing he has going for him right now is that he seems to have a far better vocabulary than pretty much everyone on the roster except Kane and Wade. >_>

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Lopen
02/13/12 12:50:00 AM
#295:


Yeah. Like I said I think I agree with you. I too seem to remember his earlier promos after the transition having more of an edge to them, so it probably was more him settling than not.

It's unfortunate but I kinda knew it was going to happen from the moment he changed his gimmick which is why I was so down on it.

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edwardsdv
02/13/12 1:17:00 AM
#296:


From: XIII_rocks | #294
JaKyL had Cody down as "still a monster, but now a confident monster" or something about a week after the change and that seemed like a good description of him. Cody's promos about being "unleashed" and stuff were good, comic-booky, unique in a company where a lot of heels are the same. He had this kind of bizarre face thing going on where he shifted from smiles to frowns really quickly too which made you think "wow, this guy is off his rocker".

And then you see his promo at the start of Smackdown last week and it's like "oh really? This is it?" I mean he still delivered everything great and the "reverse undertaker" line was funny, but it was all a bit routine. And that's not what I came to expect from Cody.

The best thing he has going for him right now is that he seems to have a far better vocabulary than pretty much everyone on the roster except Kane and Wade. >_>


I think he was just transitioning like Lopen said.

Hes still one of my favorite workers, but hes lost his big promo edge. I think in the long run we'll be glad of it though-- he wants to make it to the top and this company already has a resident psychopath so he needs to find another path.

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voltch
02/13/12 4:26:00 AM
#297:


WO praising a lot of em. this is the most praise they've given to a TNA PPV in quite a while. Plenty of stuff they didn't like though.

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muddersmilk
02/13/12 7:26:00 AM
#298:


Hey Jakyl or anyone else who knows, when is the Chikara/ROH crossover episode going to air? Every week I hope to see it.

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ExThaNemesis
02/13/12 7:43:00 AM
#299:


I'm gonna have to find a way to see that Aries/Shelley match. No way I was wading through a whole TNA PPV just to see it, but I'll download it or something.

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muddersmilk
02/13/12 7:48:00 AM
#300:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I'm gonna have to find a way to see that Aries/Shelley match. No way I was wading through a whole TNA PPV just to see it, but I'll download it or something.

PM me when you find a way.

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