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leo3leo
02/17/12 10:23:00 AM
#201:


Damn, that was incredible. Both because of all the AWESOME ACTION and because I think it referenced pretty much every flash that came before. My callback metre exploded!
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Some_Character
02/17/12 10:29:00 AM
#203:


The best part was the Brobot suplex.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/17/12 10:30:00 AM
#204:


Brobot sprouting multiple arms to give a thumbs-down and Jake's reaction was the best imo. That or the Make Her Pay callback with Brobot punching Jake's eyes off his face.

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KanzarisKelshen
02/17/12 11:19:00 AM
#205:


Holy ****

HOLY ****

holy **** holy **** holy ****

That just about sums my reactions to the flash. And I think I can speak for everyone when I say the following:



Flash of this. Make it happen.

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KanzarisKelshen
02/17/12 11:20:00 AM
#206:


Also, new rankings:

Jake>Dirk=Roxy>AR>>Jane>UU

Dirk's earned the rankup.

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LordoftheMorons
02/17/12 11:24:00 AM
#207:


Feeling justified having Dirk second to Roxy now!

That theory makes a lot of sense.

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LordoftheMorons
02/17/12 11:29:00 AM
#208:


Also, PREDICTION: DD is going to be the biggest threat in this universe

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Tehmoosey1
02/17/12 11:37:00 AM
#209:


Dirk is now better than Jane, at least.

Robo-Dirk is even more badass than him, though. Dirk is like the worst incarnation of himself, somehow, even though he created half of them.

Also, were any major flashes not referenced in that one? I can't think of any.

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tereziWright
02/17/12 11:39:00 AM
#210:


Hussie issetting a dangerous standard of all hiatus being a distaction.

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muddersmilk
02/17/12 11:40:00 AM
#211:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Also, PREDICTION: DD is going to be the biggest threat in this universe

Opposing prediction. DD is about to get stomped.

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kevwaffles
02/17/12 11:41:00 AM
#212:


I also just realized that the split timeline theory makes a lot of sense of why Dirk and Roxy haven't been assassinated, or received attempts thereof (not counting their dream selves). It seems kind of weird for the Condesce to just ignore them like that after killing their parents unless they weren't around to be killed until after she left to take over the Incipisphere.

It also explains why we haven't had any of the meteors start appearing yet, because this theory would likely become pretty obvious once that worldwide event starts up.

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Some_Character
02/17/12 11:42:00 AM
#213:


Don't think there were any references to [S] Jade: Enter.

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kevwaffles
02/17/12 11:42:00 AM
#214:


From: Tehmoosey1 | #209
Robo-Dirk is even more badass than him, though. Dirk is like the worst incarnation of himself, somehow, even though he created half of them.


Umm, which ones has he not created?

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Some_Character
02/17/12 11:43:00 AM
#215:


From: kevwaffles | #214
Umm, which ones has he not created?


Bro and himself.

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kevwaffles
02/17/12 11:46:00 AM
#216:


From: Some_Character | #215
Bro and himself.


Heh, I guess that technically counts.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
02/17/12 11:47:00 AM
#217:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #206
Also, new rankings:

Jake>Dirk=Roxy>AR>>Jane>UU

Dirk's earned the rankup.


Tsk, tsk. You are so reactionary, Kan.

Roxy >> Jake > AR > Dirk > Jane > UU is the one true ranking for the current scratched universe peeps. The flash is enough to bump Dirk up two spots, but come on now.

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Tehmoosey1
02/17/12 11:51:00 AM
#218:


I assume that Jane probably created Dirk through ectobiology. Though it is quite possible that Dirk ends up creating himself, too. Wouldn't surprise me.

As for this future theory, it makes more sense than any human-troll world theory I've ever heard. But now that the theory's out there, if it ends up being correct, will Hussie treat the plot twist the same way he treated the "shocking revelations" in Hivebent?

EDIT: Also, that ranking above my post is 100% correct, with the caveat that Dirk was, even at his worst, never worse than UU.

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muddersmilk
02/17/12 11:58:00 AM
#219:


SemiFinal vs Belarus posted...
From: KanzarisKelshen | #206
Also, new rankings:

Jake>Dirk=Roxy>AR>>Jane>UU

Dirk's earned the rankup.
Tsk, tsk. You are so reactionary, Kan.

Roxy >> Jake > AR > Dirk > Jane > UU is the one true ranking for the current scratched universe peeps. The flash is enough to bump Dirk up two spots, but come on now.


I gotta agree with Semi on this one.

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tereziWright
02/17/12 12:00:00 PM
#220:


From: Tehmoosey1 | #218

As for this future theory, it makes more sense than any human-troll world theory I've ever heard. But now that the theory's out there, if it ends up being correct, will Hussie treat the plot twist the same way he treated the "shocking revelations" in Hivebent?


I doubt it, there are archive readers to consider.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/17/12 12:01:00 PM
#221:


From: Tehmoosey1 | #218
I assume that Jane probably created Dirk through ectobiology. Though it is quite possible that Dirk ends up creating himself, too. Wouldn't surprise me.


John should still have created the four scratch kids as evidenced by them still having the exact same items they had in the original universe when they came through the meteors. Jane's book even has the text written by Nannasprite to John.

Unless there's some really weird time stuff going on here, which could be the case.

EDIT: Actually the old version of the book was John's so that part's mixed up but the point still stands.

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YetAnothrShadow
02/17/12 3:30:00 PM
#222:


Roxy>>>>>>>>>>>AR> Jake>Dirk>Jane> UU

Not to say those guys are bad, but Roxy is in a level of her own.

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Paratroopa1
02/17/12 3:56:00 PM
#223:


I like how I wake up, see this topic has gotten 50 posts, and know something awesome has gone down.
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LordoftheMorons
02/17/12 4:17:00 PM
#224:


tereziWright posted...
Hussie issetting a dangerous standard of all hiatus being a distaction.

But it wasn't really a distaction, he straight up said he was going to be working on Homestuck in his blog >.>

Suspending updates for the next several days. Maybe for 3 or 4 or 5 or maybe 6 or 7 days, so that I have some time to work on the following things.

1) Homestuck Book 2

2) Homestuck music contest

3) Homestuck

And now we play this role playing game where we all pretend that it actually takes time to make stuff, instead of the reality we all know to be scientific fact, which is that it all appears magically from the æthær of wizardspace.


Hiding in plain sight!

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Natwaf_akidna
02/17/12 4:55:00 PM
#225:


Time to wreck ****

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Paratroopa1
02/17/12 5:52:00 PM
#226:


Having watched the flash a few times now I am convinced that the coolest part of it is when the Condesce shows up in a Jack: Ascend callback and the 'Black' motif is suddenly introduced to the song, to punctuate the first time we've seen her in an animation. Slick.

I think it's interesting that the song was written a year ago and just seems to be a Dave song and Hussie repurposed it to tell a completely different narrative that seems to fit it perfectly, like it was the purpose for the song all along.
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Takfloyd_mkII__
02/17/12 6:04:00 PM
#227:


Yeah I wondered why Black was in that song. I would have imagined that if the song was used it would be in a flash where Dave fights Noir, but this was just subtly genius.
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LordoftheMorons
02/17/12 6:07:00 PM
#228:


I liked how impaling HB's head lined up with the music, myself.

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Nogoodnamesnow
02/17/12 6:47:00 PM
#229:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I think it's interesting that the song was written a year ago and just seems to be a Dave song and Hussie repurposed it to tell a completely different narrative that seems to fit it perfectly, like it was the purpose for the song all along.

Andrew is really, really good at this if you ask me. The songs he uses in flash animations are never exactly how I would imagine them being used, but they fit really well.

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tereziWright
02/17/12 7:57:00 PM
#230:


Why did I just notice Terezi's lusus in the background when Dirkbot is dancing on Jake?

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LordoftheMorons
02/17/12 8:00:00 PM
#231:


Tehmoosey1 posted...
Also, were any major flashes not referenced in that one? I can't think of any.

Were there any to Wake besides the thumbs down? (I don't really count that since it was originally from Dave: Abscond.)

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DirkStrider
02/17/12 8:06:00 PM
#232:


To be honest, I never thought any of the Strife! songs would be good for a flash but Hussie proved me wrong. Although, if you do listen to them all, this is the one that sounds like it would have worked best. And, hey, it actually did. It has a sort of narrative rhythm to it.
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Paratroopa1
02/17/12 9:45:00 PM
#233:


I just realized:

Did we know before this flash that the Condesce is ordering the agents around in place of the Black Queen?

Why? What's going on here?
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LordoftheMorons
02/17/12 9:47:00 PM
#234:


I think it was pretty heavily implied that that was the case before this.

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tcaz2
02/17/12 9:48:00 PM
#235:


Yes, it was mentioned before.

In one of UU's conversations, I think. One of the earlier ones.

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Viktor Vaughn
02/17/12 9:49:00 PM
#236:


From: Paratroopa1 | #233
I just realized:

Did we know before this flash that the Condesce is ordering the agents around in place of the Black Queen?

Why? What's going on here?


it was pretty heavily implied via jack's musings on the new queen after killing jane, but never stated outright

You say it's all fair game now that the kingdom's under new management. The new boss ain't opposed to taking some shrewd tactical shortcuts. You like the cut of her jib. He says he supposes he can't complain. Her policy toward elaborate hats seems to be as lenient as the old queen's. You say will you shut up about the hats. He says it's probably because she wears the most grand and luxurious fluffy hat he's ever seen. You say you don't think that's a hat. You think it's something called "hair." He says oh.

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Paratroopa1
02/17/12 9:53:00 PM
#237:


Oh s***, yeah, I totally forgot about that bit.

One of the most brilliant parts of Homestuck is that there are basically never plot twists, everything is explicitly told to us, it's just obscured via misdirection until it's "revealed."
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tcaz2
02/17/12 10:18:00 PM
#238:


Oh yeah it was Jack.

I thought UU implied it too at some point though...

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LordoftheMorons
02/18/12 2:18:00 AM
#239:


Aww yeah return of the Echeladder

...I bet someone makes that website within the next 24 hours.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
02/18/12 2:24:00 AM
#240:


Revenge of Bernie Lomax

Incredible.

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SunnyX
02/18/12 5:31:00 AM
#241:


2xgun1eyekind

jake's gonna shoot his eye out, kids. and believe me, if you thought he was a hunk with two eyes, wait till you see him with an eye patch!

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Nogoodnamesnow
02/18/12 7:25:00 AM
#242:


Hahaha, someone just pointed out that green-eyes-peeled-for-blue-lookers-nude.com actually redirects to Jake's introduction page.

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tcaz2
02/18/12 7:36:00 AM
#243:


From: Nogoodnamesnow | #242
Hahaha, someone just pointed out that green-eyes-peeled-for-blue-lookers-nude.com actually redirects to Jake's introduction page.


Hussie why you so amazing

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Altimadark
02/18/12 8:39:00 AM
#244:


Hey, guys, did anybody else notice that Derse has no Prototyping towers?

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Takfloyd_mkII__
02/18/12 9:18:00 AM
#245:


You are not, obviously. That's why it came as no surprise that the ring has no orbs.

Could just be because the game hasn't started, but probably means there won't be any prototyping, or that prototyping won't affect the Medium, or that it won't happen pre-entry. Either one.

Probably the Condesce's work. After all she won't be affected by the ring's powers anyway.
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tcaz2
02/18/12 9:36:00 AM
#246:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #245
Could just be because the game hasn't started


Unlikely. The original ring in the pre-scratch session had 4 orbs even before Jade prototyped. It seems to be a pre-destination thing.

I should point out, btw, if no prototypings will happen before they enter the medium (which seems more likely than none at all, honestly, knowing this series- but we won't know for sure til Jane's Sburb equipment gets deployed I guess), the game becomes unwinnable due to no battlefield evolutions.

Guess it's a good thing they have someone bringing a fully evolved battlefield with them coming, eh?

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kevwaffles
02/18/12 9:54:00 AM
#247:


From: tcaz2 | #246
Unlikely. The original ring in the pre-scratch session had 4 orbs even before Jade prototyped. It seems to be a pre-destination thing.


This is the first session where we've seen the full overlay of Prospit and Derse before any players have entered, though. I don't see it as that unlikely that they aren't created until the first player's entry, ie the game properly beginning.

Besides, that would be a good way to hide the number of players from us if it turns out to not be a 4 player session.

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tcaz2
02/18/12 9:58:00 AM
#248:


From: kevwaffles | #247
This is the first session where we've seen the full overlay of Prospit and Derse before any players have entered, though. I don't see it as that unlikely that they aren't created until the first player's entry, ie the game properly beginning.


That's just complete speculation though. All the evidence points to this not being the case.

Also,

Homestuck
Hide things in the story

Pick one!

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kevwaffles
02/18/12 10:06:00 AM
#249:


From: tcaz2 | #248
That's just complete speculation though.


Everything we do is complete speculation! But really there is no more evidence for one theory over the other at this point. Unless you assume the Condesce is actually wearing the prototyping ring, but I highly doubt that either way.

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tcaz2
02/18/12 10:07:00 AM
#250:


From: kevwaffles | #249
Everything we do is complete speculation! But really there is no more evidence for one theory over the other at this point. Unless you assume the Condesce is actually wearing the prototyping ring, but I highly doubt that either way.


It looks exactly the same as all the other rings without the orbs!

And no, there's a lot of evidence for pre-destination about everything in Sburb. It would be silly to assume just this one thing wasn't.

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