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Accel ACE
01/08/12 11:08:00 AM
#151:


Bracers of Mighty Striking (Level 2, Player's Handbook)
Boots of Adept Charging (Level 2, Adventurer's Vault)
Gauntlets of Blood (Level 4, Adventurer's Vault 2)
Cascading Strikes Ki Focus (Level 8, Psionic Power)

The last one is a little weird because a ki focus is, in fluff, any enchanted mundane object that someone proficient with ki focuses has with them constantly when they train - in fluff I've decided my ki focus is a simple scroll with a few simple mantra written upon it. It's really up to the DM to decide what a ki focus otherwise is.

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GenesisTwilight
01/08/12 11:25:00 AM
#152:


So are we ignoring the common/uncommon rules? Meaning can I make any type of potion with brew potion instead of just common ones?

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GenesisTwilight
01/08/12 11:26:00 AM
#153:


From: Accel ACE | #151
Bracers of Mighty Striking (Level 2, Player's Handbook)
Boots of Adept Charging (Level 2, Adventurer's Vault)
Gauntlets of Blood (Level 4, Adventurer's Vault 2)
Cascading Strikes Ki Focus (Level 8, Psionic Power)

The last one is a little weird because a ki focus is, in fluff, any enchanted mundane object that someone proficient with ki focuses has with them constantly when they train - in fluff I've decided my ki focus is a simple scroll with a few simple mantra written upon it. It's really up to the DM to decide what a ki focus otherwise is.


Bracers of Mighty Striking are inferior to Iron Armbands of Power. BoMS only give the bonus damage to basic melee attacks, while IAoP give the bonus damage to ALL melee attacks, including powers.

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Anagram
01/08/12 12:06:00 PM
#154:


GenesisTwilight posted...
So are we ignoring the common/uncommon rules? Meaning can I make any type of potion with brew potion instead of just common ones?

Yeah, it's just easier this way.

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GenesisTwilight
01/08/12 12:44:00 PM
#155:


Ok.

Deep Pocket Cloak +2, lv 7, neck
Alchemy Gloves, lv 6, hands
Gadgeteer's Goggles, lv 8, head

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KanzarisKelshen
01/08/12 4:41:00 PM
#156:


Today, ITC:

-Euri tests Raita's acid powers...on herself. Gets predictably burned (there were controlled circumstances though).
-Gets help from Winter.
-Lots of poking into the Fury's past ensues. Valerian and Euri keep up the psychoanalysis on her, trying to understand why she still wants to go back to the Furies. Turns out Raita pretty much worships Queen as a paragon of everything she is, and wants to be.
-Much coaxing her about what she wants to do, and can do besides killing ensues. Turns out she used to while away the hours staring at the ceiling.
-Winter gets fed up with the psychoanalysis, and asks why Raita hasn't been punished for her crimes yet. Much back and forth on morality and circumstances ensues.
-Said back-and-forth ends when Val dares her to kill Raita herself. She doesn't go through with it, and breaks down. An attempt to comfort her is made, but isn't very successful.
-Small breakdown from our heroes. Euri tries to help as best as she can, but isn't sure of what she can accomplish. Val realizes that several of the things Winter accused him of (shying away from his responsibility over who deserves to live and die, being a hypocrite) are absolutely true, and that he just proved her point by gambling on her nature not being that of a murderer.
-A little bit more psychoanalysis as it's pointed out that, when Winter threatened to kill her, Raita didn't want to die, in spite of her words to the contrary. She's untied and given a chance to get some sleep outside the bag.

...And then nobody slept that night (AKA, Val and Euri didn't). Purely a talky session, but totally worth it for dat character development, son.

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GenesisTwilight
01/08/12 5:03:00 PM
#157:


So during all that time, let's say Ashara was disenchanting those sickles, trying to figure out what that heart blade is, and making some potions and alchemy stuff.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/08/12 5:49:00 PM
#158:


We kinda assumed everybody was asleep, actually (except for Jean, who heard everything). If you wanna run with that though, that sounds great.

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Anagram
01/08/12 5:51:00 PM
#159:


GenesisTwilight posted...
So during all that time, let's say Ashara was disenchanting those sickles, trying to figure out what that heart blade is, and making some potions and alchemy stuff.

I'm afraid you can't disenchant the sickles. Disenchant Magic Item only lets you disenchant items up to your level. The sickles are above level 5. As for the identification, what do you roll for that? And what potions do you want to make?

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/08/12 6:02:00 PM
#160:


>giving us unwieldable magic items we can't disenchant

lol

Might as well give them back to Raita...

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KanzarisKelshen
01/08/12 6:18:00 PM
#161:


From: Anagram | #159
GenesisTwilight posted...
So during all that time, let's say Ashara was disenchanting those sickles, trying to figure out what that heart blade is, and making some potions and alchemy stuff.

I'm afraid you can't disenchant the sickles. Disenchant Magic Item only lets you disenchant items up to your level. The sickles are above level 5. As for the identification, what do you roll for that? And what potions do you want to make?


Actually, I'm pretty sure you can disenchant above-level items - you just can't ENCHANT them. And there's a feat to get around that, too.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/08/12 6:31:00 PM
#162:


No, the Disenchant description says you can't.

Actually, can Gen even cast it? It's a level 6 ritual.

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Anagram
01/08/12 6:35:00 PM
#163:


Sceptilesolarbeam posted...
>giving us unwieldable magic items we can't disenchant

lol

Might as well give them back to Raita...


They're wieldable! If you had sickle proficiencies. Besides, you can just wait to level up.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/08/12 7:20:00 PM
#164:


Whoops, I conflated disenchantment with selling. My bad!

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GenesisTwilight
01/08/12 7:48:00 PM
#165:


Yes, Artificer's start with Enchant Magic Item, Disenchant Magic Item, Brew Potion, and Make Whole.

Anyway, I'm gonna make one of each of my alchemical items I have the formula for (one I get for free due to the Alchemist background) and a Potion of Clarity. That would be 2.5 hours and 150 gold, which I assume is reasonable. Keep in mind she'd be doing this while everyone is talking.

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01/08/12 7:49:00 PM
#166:


What do you roll to identify the sword?

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GenesisTwilight
01/08/12 7:57:00 PM
#167:


Oh right. I'll just take 10 on arcana, which means it's 21.

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01/08/12 10:46:00 PM
#168:


It is a simple Longsword +2, though it's designed to be unusually pretty and girly by longsword standards.

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01/08/12 10:50:00 PM
#169:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
Longsword +2...that's a weapon Euri could use, I think. And maybe Vance? Everybody else is tied to their weapon of choice though.

If they're comfortable using a weapon designed to look cutesy as it gores your chest, they're free to do so.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/08/12 10:50:00 PM
#170:


Longsword +2...that's a weapon Euri could use, I think. And maybe Vance? Everybody else is tied to their weapon of choice though.

EDIT: Incidentally, imagining our russian dragonborn housewife charging into battle with a frilly pink sword in hand and a deadly serious look in her face is hilarious to me for some reason.

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IhatethisCPU
01/09/12 4:27:00 AM
#171:


A spare weapon is a spare weapon. Even if it was apparently enchanted by a eight-year-old girl.

Question, though. Obviously it's not a good idea if you aren't trained in it, but can you dual wield two different weapon types in 4e ?

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/09/12 5:31:00 AM
#172:


Sure. I do.

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shadosneko
01/09/12 5:58:00 AM
#173:


From: IhatethisCPU | #171
Question, though. Obviously it's not a good idea if you aren't trained in it, but can you dual wield two different weapon types in 4e ?


Pretty sure you can.

A one handed weapon is a one handed weapon.

I'll dual wield a fish and a snake for all I care.

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IhatethisCPU
01/09/12 7:33:00 AM
#174:


Hmm. ...Nah. Will take the Blade of Hearts if Vance doesn't want it, but dual wielding is probably a bad idea for Euri.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/09/12 1:29:00 PM
#175:


From: IhatethisCPU | #174
Hmm. ...Nah. Will take the Blade of Hearts if Vance doesn't want it, but dual wielding is probably a bad idea for Euri.


Dual Wielding has no penalties here. It just doesn't give a bonus either unless you invest in the appropriate feats.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/09/12 1:36:00 PM
#176:


In other news, 5e is confirmed. The forums are alive with the sound of version arguments.


I've become a lot more partial to 4e since I've started trying to make a game in it, I admit. I hope their desire to rely on player input doesn't ruin everything.

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shadosneko
01/09/12 1:40:00 PM
#177:


We all saw how Mega Man Legends 3 turned out.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/09/12 1:41:00 PM
#178:


From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #176
In other news, 5e is confirmed. The forums are alive with the sound of version arguments.


I've become a lot more partial to 4e since I've started trying to make a game in it, I admit. I hope their desire to rely on player input doesn't ruin everything.


I'm already working with the CharOp guys to make sure that anything that needs fix'd mathematically, GETS FIXED. Incidentally, if you want to sign up for upcoming open playtest:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ll/20120109

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Anagram
01/09/12 9:31:00 PM
#179:


Hm. I suppose we can only wait and see how different 5E will be.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/10/12 5:57:00 AM
#180:


Man, I was just looking through the lists of tricks available to everybody else's classes (except Euri's, I know hers by heart), and I feel envious of Gen. Ashara has so many neat tricks to pull off with her powers while I need to get so many math boosts to keep Val going. That White Lotus Enervation. ._.

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Accel ACE
01/10/12 9:46:00 PM
#181:


Vance doesn't want longswords, tempest technique is strong but limited to specific weapons (i.e, onehanded weapons with the off-hand property). And aside from that, Vance doesn't even really need weapons to begin with, the shortsword he's wielding is for defensive purposes more than offensive ones.

As far as Bracers of Mighty Striking vs Iron Armbands of Power, the former is a level 2 item, and I felt that putting that on my wishlist was more reasonable since it's for all intents and purposes "less powerful".

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KanzarisKelshen
01/10/12 9:53:00 PM
#182:


From: Accel ACE | #181
Vance doesn't want longswords, tempest technique is strong but limited to specific weapons (i.e, onehanded weapons with the off-hand property). And aside from that, Vance doesn't even really need weapons to begin with, the shortsword he's wielding is for defensive purposes more than offensive ones.

As far as Bracers of Mighty Striking vs Iron Armbands of Power, the former is a level 2 item, and I felt that putting that on my wishlist was more reasonable since it's for all intents and purposes "less powerful".


Don't bother about power, honestly. In theory, you couldn't even receive the Bracers, while you CAN get the armbands!

(And yes, this is a dumb restriction, but honestly, don't sweat it - the armbands are right in the range of items we're s'posed to get, the bracers aren't, so why lowball?)

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01/11/12 8:35:00 AM
#183:


I just realized there are too many NPCs following the party around right now, and that there may be more in the future.

Hm...

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/11/12 8:45:00 AM
#184:


Hey Kanz, if you have any opportunities for input, you should get them to stop making those stupid Weapon Focus / Implement Focus feats. They're practically a feat tax in themselves.

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shadosneko
01/11/12 8:53:00 AM
#185:


From: Anagram | #183
I just realized there are too many NPCs following the party around right now, and that there may be more in the future.

Hm...


Honestly, you should have the NPCs become their own separate party and have an excuse to split!

Or we could control them or something as a side mission. I dunno.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/11/12 8:54:00 AM
#186:


The easiest solution would be for us to find somewhere we can dump captured Furies so we don't have to drag them around with us.

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shadosneko
01/11/12 8:56:00 AM
#187:


We could dump them



off the islands.

Winter too.

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Accel ACE
01/11/12 11:57:00 AM
#188:


Sceptilesolarbeam posted...
Hey Kanz, if you have any opportunities for input, you should get them to stop making those stupid Weapon Focus / Implement Focus feats. They're practically a feat tax in themselves.

THIS

If a class uses something specialized and already gets a class feature that already augments the usage of said weapon/implement (for instance, the myriad of wizard options for wands/staves/tomes/orbs) it should include the goddamn appropriate expertise feat. I mean crap, you're going to be picking that feat at 1st goddamn level anyway ninety-nine times out of a hundred.


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Accel ACE
01/11/12 12:16:00 PM
#189:


Oh also I'm gonna be on AIM more often, if y'all want to do one of those side RP sessions I'm totally down for that, I feel as if I've really not gotten to play my character much outside of combat since we have such a large group (players and NPCs included)

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KanzarisKelshen
01/11/12 1:44:00 PM
#190:


From: Accel ACE | #188
Sceptilesolarbeam posted...
Hey Kanz, if you have any opportunities for input, you should get them to stop making those stupid Weapon Focus / Implement Focus feats. They're practically a feat tax in themselves.

THIS

If a class uses something specialized and already gets a class feature that already augments the usage of said weapon/implement (for instance, the myriad of wizard options for wands/staves/tomes/orbs) it should include the goddamn appropriate expertise feat. I mean crap, you're going to be picking that feat at 1st goddamn level anyway ninety-nine times out of a hundred.


Trust me, I'm of the same mind. Tax feats shouldn't exist, ever. I've got four feats and all four of them are taxes, and the next feat is a tax too.

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IhatethisCPU
01/11/12 2:11:00 PM
#191:


Will be taking the Blade Of Hearts, incidentally.

And there will be no dumping of NPCs. Especially when they have more personality than half the party. >_>'

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01/11/12 2:36:00 PM
#192:


We can do a side RP at some point or something, Accel.

And if people want to secretly kill Winter, they're allowed, if they think they can do it without Valerian getting on their asses about it.

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GenesisTwilight
01/11/12 2:47:00 PM
#193:


I'm sure Valerian will manage to kill himself in short time. He's already doing a good job trying.

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01/11/12 2:52:00 PM
#194:


GenesisTwilight posted...
I'm sure Valerian will manage to kill himself in short time. He's already doing a good job trying.

I couldn't believe it when he challenged an NPC to a duel who was explicitly stronger than the entire party by herself.

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IhatethisCPU
01/11/12 3:04:00 PM
#195:


Stupid, yet somewhat important question: do Dragonborn have prehensile tails?

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KanzarisKelshen
01/11/12 3:06:00 PM
#196:


I don't drink the 'play to advance' Koolaid. Yeah, getting to kill a solo with a single burst of attacks is cool, but not as cool as having an enemy to fight a grudge match with, or as gambling on Winter's decency to see if Val can help her get past her grief. All the power I gain merely enables me to take bigger risks, that's all.

From: Anagram | #194
GenesisTwilight posted...
I'm sure Valerian will manage to kill himself in short time. He's already doing a good job trying.

I couldn't believe it when he challenged an NPC to a duel who was explicitly stronger than the entire party by herself.


I didn't realize I was playing Valeria Lotwyver here. :P

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KanzarisKelshen
01/11/12 3:07:00 PM
#197:


From: IhatethisCPU | #195
Stupid, yet somewhat important question: do Dragonborn have prehensile tails?


I think the answer is no, but don't quote me on it. And if you want one I don't think there's any issues with it.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/11/12 3:25:00 PM
#198:


Hey scep:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/updates

Short of it: Flame Spiral got nerfed. I think a respec is in order.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/11/12 3:35:00 PM
#199:


Eh. So it can only trigger once per round? I still don't think I have any better level 3 encounter options.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/11/12 3:55:00 PM
#200:


Lightning Cuts becomes an option for nova turns. But yeah, Flame Spiral is still good, it just never will allow for the same trick we pulled off against Marial again.

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