Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 159: In Which We All Vote For Sheamus

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Viktor Vaughn 12/28/11 12:52:00 AM #52:	mike hogewood, mike tenay, and a slightly heelier matt striker make it happen -- comin to your screen, straight from the magazine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_-LPPdHEyA <cite>Viktor Vaughn posted [p:603178] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> mike hogewood, mike tenay, and a slightly heelier matt striker make it happen -- comin to your screen, straight from the magazinehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_-LPPdHEyA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sonten1 12/28/11 12:55:00 AM #53:	The announcers have been so bad that I almost voted CM Punk for AOTY despite only being behind the booth like, twice in 2011 -- HBJ - occupymyheart ~Project 1000~ <cite>sonten1 posted [p:603179] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> The announcers have been so bad that I almost voted CM Punk for AOTY despite only being behind the booth like, twice in 2011 -- HBJ - occupymyheart~Project 1000~ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 12/28/11 12:57:00 AM #54:	From: JaKyL25 \| #041 It really sucks that the top storyline on Raw is YET ANOTHER REHASH of "Heel authority figure abuses power to feud with rebellious babyface." What exactly is the blowoff to Punk vs. Laurinaitis, writers? There is no St. Valentine's Day Massacre to be had this time around. If they end up CHARGING for Punk vs. Ace on PPV, they're more delusional than I thought. This kinda made me pissed off when I was watching Raw Laurinitis has been okay as GM. He has a good split between being hated and doing some solid stuff. But he has not been around long enough at all for me to have any real hatred for him or anything. Hell he is still just INTERIM GM for crying out loud. Why on earth should anyone care about anyone vs this authority figure? People loved Austin vs Vince because they knew who Vince was and it was mind boggling. They did amazing things and made you hate McMahon and love Austin. Here people love Punk and barely know this guy. Hell even Biscoff being the fairly flat heel gm made you want to see him get his teeth crushed in because he was Eric **ing Bischoff and was this guy you grew to hate in WCW. Him trying to get Cena before getting fired was good because even though as a character he wasnt super awesome you still hated him. There's no emotion really for Laurinitis beyond Punk and Cena like to poke fun at him. -- Circle gets the Scare! Imagine if Jesus knew kung fu. That's what everyone is dealing with <cite>ScareChan posted [p:603180] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #041It really sucks that the top storyline on Raw is YET ANOTHER REHASH of "Heel authority figure abuses power to feud with rebellious babyface."What exactly is the blowoff to Punk vs. Laurinaitis, writers? There is no St. Valentine's Day Massacre to be had this time around. If they end up CHARGING for Punk vs. Ace on PPV, they're more delusional than I thought.This kinda made me pissed off when I was watching RawLaurinitis has been okay as GM. He has a good split between being hated and doing some solid stuff. But he has not been around long enough at all for me to have any real hatred for him or anything. Hell he is still just INTERIM GM for crying out loud. Why on earth should anyone care about anyone vs this authority figure? People loved Austin vs Vince because they knew who Vince was and it was mind boggling. They did amazing things and made you hate McMahon and love Austin. Here people love Punk and barely know this guy. Hell even Biscoff being the fairly flat heel gm made you want to see him get his teeth crushed in because he was Eric **ing Bischoff and was this guy you grew to hate in WCW. Him trying to get Cena before getting fired was good because even though as a character he wasnt super awesome you still hated him. There's no emotion really for Laurinitis beyond Punk and Cena like to poke fun at him. -- Circle gets the Scare!Imagine if Jesus knew kung fu. That's what everyone is dealing with </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 1:11:00 AM #55:	It's a little Russo-esque to be honest, insofar as what WWE thinks people already know about Johnny Ace prior to his on-screen role. The more deeply-involved smarks have known about Laurinaitis and have been generally down on him for a long time, and now I think WWE is trying to move that smark hatred into all-around mark hatred. But like you said, it's gone WAY too fast. He plays his character really well, actually, and I'm sure there is SOME good way to use him as a douchey on-screen middle management character if you must, but he's not Top Heel material. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603181] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> It's a little Russo-esque to be honest, insofar as what WWE thinks people already know about Johnny Ace prior to his on-screen role.The more deeply-involved smarks have known about Laurinaitis and have been generally down on him for a long time, and now I think WWE is trying to move that smark hatred into all-around mark hatred.But like you said, it's gone WAY too fast. He plays his character really well, actually, and I'm sure there is SOME good way to use him as a douchey on-screen middle management character if you must, but he's not Top Heel material. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/28/11 1:17:00 AM #56:	Eh I think Laurinaitis does his job well. I know some casual wrestling fans who think he's hateable just because of his voice. I just don't think seeing "heel authority figure vs rebellious face" is something I want to see again for a while as the selling feud no matter how good the authority figure is. ESPECIALLY when that's pretty much the only long running storyline on either show that isn't the slow build of turning Cena to the dark side. Random people saying I WANT A TITLE MATCH isn't a storyline. Wade Barrett getting the one up on Randy Orton is a decent match based feud but not a good storyline. All the storylines today are too shallow or something we've already seen-- which is a shame because just 5 months ago we had a storyline with all the potential in the world and they couldn't let it simmer cause "we've gotta have Punk vs Cena for Summerslam" -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! <cite>Lopen posted [p:603182] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Eh I think Laurinaitis does his job well. I know some casual wrestling fans who think he's hateable just because of his voice. I just don't think seeing "heel authority figure vs rebellious face" is something I want to see again for a while as the selling feud no matter how good the authority figure is. ESPECIALLY when that's pretty much the only long running storyline on either show that isn't the slow build of turning Cena to the dark side. Random people saying I WANT A TITLE MATCH isn't a storyline. Wade Barrett getting the one up on Randy Orton is a decent match based feud but not a good storyline. All the storylines today are too shallow or something we've already seen-- which is a shame because just 5 months ago we had a storyline with all the potential in the world and they couldn't let it simmer cause "we've gotta have Punk vs Cena for Summerslam" -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 12/28/11 1:30:00 AM #57:	From: JaKyL25 \| #055 It's a little Russo-esque to be honest, insofar as what WWE thinks people already know about Johnny Ace prior to his on-screen role. The more deeply-involved smarks have known about Laurinaitis and have been generally down on him for a long time, and now I think WWE is trying to move that smark hatred into all-around mark hatred. But like you said, it's gone WAY too fast. He plays his character really well, actually, and I'm sure there is SOME good way to use him as a douchey on-screen middle management character if you must, but he's not Top Heel material. I think I am considered a smark simply by being a part of the IWC and I don't know anything about him besides the fact that he's a guy behind the scenes. I think they need at least another 6 months of this guy before they can pull the trigger on a story like this. I get that Punk needs an authority figure to feud with (and Vince vs Punk as Punk not being a Company guy with Alberto as Vince's lacky would have been amazing and should have been the way that went) Ace just isnt the guy yet. I think if the needed Ace to step up right away they should have had the Anonymous GM be a dick to Punk and Punk wins a match to reveal who the GM is and it turns out to be Ace. It gives all that anonymous GM build some blowoff and he already has some good hatred behind him. You could even run it as liberating for him and him being an even bigger douche and heel and have him just do whatever he wants. I realize with this method they would have needed to give Ace some exposure ahead of time, but they honestly could have had Trips as head honcho and the Anon GM coexisting. In fact Ace coexisting with Trips as Anon GM (and have Trips not knowing that he is Anon GM) and conspiring against his back in front of his face would have been pretty **ing awesome. -- Circle gets the Scare! Imagine if Jesus knew kung fu. That's what everyone is dealing with <cite>ScareChan posted [p:603183] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #055It's a little Russo-esque to be honest, insofar as what WWE thinks people already know about Johnny Ace prior to his on-screen role.The more deeply-involved smarks have known about Laurinaitis and have been generally down on him for a long time, and now I think WWE is trying to move that smark hatred into all-around mark hatred.But like you said, it's gone WAY too fast. He plays his character really well, actually, and I'm sure there is SOME good way to use him as a douchey on-screen middle management character if you must, but he's not Top Heel material.I think I am considered a smark simply by being a part of the IWC and I don't know anything about him besides the fact that he's a guy behind the scenes. I think they need at least another 6 months of this guy before they can pull the trigger on a story like this. I get that Punk needs an authority figure to feud with (and Vince vs Punk as Punk not being a Company guy with Alberto as Vince's lacky would have been amazing and should have been the way that went) Ace just isnt the guy yet. I think if the needed Ace to step up right away they should have had the Anonymous GM be a dick to Punk and Punk wins a match to reveal who the GM is and it turns out to be Ace. It gives all that anonymous GM build some blowoff and he already has some good hatred behind him. You could even run it as liberating for him and him being an even bigger douche and heel and have him just do whatever he wants. I realize with this method they would have needed to give Ace some exposure ahead of time, but they honestly could have had Trips as head honcho and the Anon GM coexisting. In fact Ace coexisting with Trips as Anon GM (and have Trips not knowing that he is Anon GM) and conspiring against his back in front of his face would have been pretty **ing awesome. -- Circle gets the Scare!Imagine if Jesus knew kung fu. That's what everyone is dealing with </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 12/28/11 1:33:00 AM #58:	From: Lopen \| #056 Eh I think Laurinaitis does his job well. I know some casual wrestling fans who think he's hateable just because of his voice. I just don't think seeing "heel authority figure vs rebellious face" is something I want to see again for a while as the selling feud no matter how good the authority figure is. ESPECIALLY when that's pretty much the only long running storyline on either show that isn't the slow build of turning Cena to the dark side. Random people saying I WANT A TITLE MATCH isn't a storyline. Wade Barrett getting the one up on Randy Orton is a decent match based feud but not a good storyline. All the storylines today are too shallow or something we've already seen-- which is a shame because just 5 months ago we had a storyline with all the potential in the world and they couldn't let it simmer cause "we've gotta have Punk vs Cena for Summerslam" Which is all the more reason Ryder's Dark Spiral is that much more amazing and potential worthy! -- Circle gets the Scare! Imagine if Jesus knew kung fu. That's what everyone is dealing with <cite>ScareChan posted [p:603184] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: Lopen \| #056Eh I think Laurinaitis does his job well. I know some casual wrestling fans who think he's hateable just because of his voice. I just don't think seeing "heel authority figure vs rebellious face" is something I want to see again for a while as the selling feud no matter how good the authority figure is. ESPECIALLY when that's pretty much the only long running storyline on either show that isn't the slow build of turning Cena to the dark side. Random people saying I WANT A TITLE MATCH isn't a storyline. Wade Barrett getting the one up on Randy Orton is a decent match based feud but not a good storyline. All the storylines today are too shallow or something we've already seen-- which is a shame because just 5 months ago we had a storyline with all the potential in the world and they couldn't let it simmer cause "we've gotta have Punk vs Cena for Summerslam"Which is all the more reason Ryder's Dark Spiral is that much more amazing and potential worthy! -- Circle gets the Scare!Imagine if Jesus knew kung fu. That's what everyone is dealing with </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 12/28/11 1:37:00 AM #59:	From: JaKyL25 \| #039 But yet here we are a full year into the experiment now, and still Cole lingers, Hasn't it been 2 years? Daniel Bryan NXT was last year February, and I remember a lot of "may I have your attention please boos" and a giant gong -- Got TURKEY MAGIC'D Woo Woo Woo You Know It! Guru Taken Miraculously by SuperNiceDog <cite>GTM posted [p:603185] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #039But yet here we are a full year into the experiment now, and still Cole lingers,Hasn't it been 2 years? Daniel Bryan NXT was last year February, and I remember a lot of "may I have your attention please boos" and a giant gong -- Got TURKEY MAGIC'D Woo Woo Woo You Know It!Guru Taken Miraculously by SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 1:39:00 AM #60:	Well true, but I was willing to cut them some slack on NXT. Heel Cole on the real shows didn't REALLY appear until The Miz rose to prominence, with the TLC match vs. Lawler being the point of no return. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603186] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Well true, but I was willing to cut them some slack on NXT. Heel Cole on the real shows didn't REALLY appear until The Miz rose to prominence, with the TLC match vs. Lawler being the point of no return. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 12/28/11 1:44:00 AM #61:	I felt like it was a very gradual process with the "and I quote" stuff, and then he just went over the top at one point and I never noticed -- Got TURKEY MAGIC'D Woo Woo Woo You Know It! Guru Taken Miraculously by SuperNiceDog <cite>GTM posted [p:603187] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> I felt like it was a very gradual process with the "and I quote" stuff, and then he just went over the top at one point and I never noticed -- Got TURKEY MAGIC'D Woo Woo Woo You Know It!Guru Taken Miraculously by SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 1:51:00 AM #62:	It was, but it was largely isolated to hating Bryan (and most NXT guys) and loving Miz, and otherwise being normal, until he interfered in that Lawler match. Heck, there was a point on NXT where he was decked out in Miz AND Cena gear because he still supported them both. Cena even hugged him after he was fired at Survivor Series 2010. Hard to imagine today. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603188] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> It was, but it was largely isolated to hating Bryan (and most NXT guys) and loving Miz, and otherwise being normal, until he interfered in that Lawler match.Heck, there was a point on NXT where he was decked out in Miz AND Cena gear because he still supported them both. Cena even hugged him after he was fired at Survivor Series 2010. Hard to imagine today. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 12/28/11 1:59:00 AM #63:	Yeah, Cole was basically just a guy who was leaning heel besides his mass Miz love/Bryan hate up until the Lawler/Miz TLC match when he transformed into an endlessly screeching moron -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. <cite>Panthera posted [p:603189] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, Cole was basically just a guy who was leaning heel besides his mass Miz love/Bryan hate up until the Lawler/Miz TLC match when he transformed into an endlessly screeching moron -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 12/28/11 2:21:00 AM #64:	You know whats REALLY strange? They have Cole in his old character in WWE 12 and it works ah ell of a lot better than what hes doing now. Really that the WORST thing about WWe 12- competent storyline execution in an era where even Rock vs. Cena doesnt have a story to it and its had theoretically a year to build. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:603190] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> You know whats REALLY strange? They have Cole in his old character in WWE 12 and it works ah ell of a lot better than what hes doing now.Really that the WORST thing about WWe 12- competent storyline execution in an era where even Rock vs. Cena doesnt have a story to it and its had theoretically a year to build. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/28/11 2:24:00 AM #65:	Eh, Rock vs Cena has a story in theory. It's pretty much all Cena side, but it's getting there. It's unfortunately the only story they have that is interesting and it's not very large in scope-- and it's also subtle so the announcers can't really use it to HYPE the show. -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! <cite>Lopen posted [p:603191] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Eh, Rock vs Cena has a story in theory. It's pretty much all Cena side, but it's getting there. It's unfortunately the only story they have that is interesting and it's not very large in scope-- and it's also subtle so the announcers can't really use it to HYPE the show. -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 12/28/11 2:26:00 AM #66:	Also it occurs to me that this may be the result of fatigue on the part of the writers with the current characters. It seems like WWE is only at its best when dealing with someone new that NEEDS exposition and introduction WE also have noted multiple times, almost every program Orton has been in since turning face hasn't been ABOUT him, but rather uses him as an unstoppable force for the heel to struggle and fail against. Which is strange to say the least. The only feud hes had since turning face I thought had potential was him vs. Punk but they didn't really go anywhere with it beyond it being Punks justification for revenge. I felt like that mightve been a good opportunity to really write more about his character, but i guess in that situation how DO you book it in such a way that doesnt make Punk look like the face and Orton the heel? Orton NEEDS to be a heel with his current character but I think theyre afraid of growing his character to be more facelike and messing up the appeal he has for a lot of the fans. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:603192] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Also it occurs to me that this may be the result of fatigue on the part of the writers with the current characters. It seems like WWE is only at its best when dealing with someone new that NEEDS exposition and introductionWE also have noted multiple times, almost every program Orton has been in since turning face hasn't been ABOUT him, but rather uses him as an unstoppable force for the heel to struggle and fail against. Which is strange to say the least.The only feud hes had since turning face I thought had potential was him vs. Punk but they didn't really go anywhere with it beyond it being Punks justification for revenge. I felt like that mightve been a good opportunity to really write more about his character, but i guess in that situation how DO you book it in such a way that doesnt make Punk look like the face and Orton the heel?Orton NEEDS to be a heel with his current character but I think theyre afraid of growing his character to be more facelike and messing up the appeal he has for a lot of the fans. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 12/28/11 2:27:00 AM #67:	From: Lopen \| #065 Eh, Rock vs Cena has a story in theory. It's pretty much all Cena side, but it's getting there. It's unfortunately the only story they have that is interesting and it's not very large in scope-- and it's also subtle so the announcers can't really use it to HYPE the show. This is true. Without some sort of constant ROCK presence its extraordinarily difficult to use Rock/Cena to sell anything BUT Wrestlemania. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:603193] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: Lopen \| #065Eh, Rock vs Cena has a story in theory. It's pretty much all Cena side, but it's getting there. It's unfortunately the only story they have that is interesting and it's not very large in scope-- and it's also subtle so the announcers can't really use it to HYPE the show.This is true. Without some sort of constant ROCK presence its extraordinarily difficult to use Rock/Cena to sell anything BUT Wrestlemania. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/28/11 2:33:00 AM #68:	Orton has had good storyline potentials-- they just don't want him to have flaws so it's not interesting. Like uh... against Christian, Christian beat Orton once because Orton got himself disqualified in a title match because Christian pissed him off. If they'd just run with it and had it as a sort of thing where Christian repeatedly abused Orton's violent/aggressive nature to make him slip up and lose, it would've been a really cool feud that would make Orton have to show an uncharacteristic amount of control to beat Christian. Doesn't even have to be "Orton gets himself DQed" every time-- could also be stuff like "Orton leaves himself open in a reckless assault and Christian capitalizes" or "Orton gets frustrated and gets Teddy Long annoyed at him so he doesn't just get tossed into a bunch of tittle matches." Against Barrett it's the same thing. They're trying to sell it off as Barrett's getting in his head but then Orton keeps crushing so it doesn't really sell it. -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! <cite>Lopen posted [p:603194] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Orton has had good storyline potentials-- they just don't want him to have flaws so it's not interesting. Like uh... against Christian, Christian beat Orton once because Orton got himself disqualified in a title match because Christian pissed him off. If they'd just run with it and had it as a sort of thing where Christian repeatedly abused Orton's violent/aggressive nature to make him slip up and lose, it would've been a really cool feud that would make Orton have to show an uncharacteristic amount of control to beat Christian. Doesn't even have to be "Orton gets himself DQed" every time-- could also be stuff like "Orton leaves himself open in a reckless assault and Christian capitalizes" or "Orton gets frustrated and gets Teddy Long annoyed at him so he doesn't just get tossed into a bunch of tittle matches."Against Barrett it's the same thing. They're trying to sell it off as Barrett's getting in his head but then Orton keeps crushing so it doesn't really sell it. -- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 2:35:00 AM #69:	I'm really shocked that they haven't given The Rock some sort of mouthpiece character to act as a Rock proxy when he's not around to interact with Cena to hype WM, although I can't really think of anyone who would work in that role. Rock is the "bad guy" in the feud, it would fit that Hollywood Rock persona. I guess that would risk actually having crowds turn on Rocky though, when a central tenet of Cena's current angle is that the crowd loves The Rock when he does as little as humanly possible to reciprocate. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603195] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> I'm really shocked that they haven't given The Rock some sort of mouthpiece character to act as a Rock proxy when he's not around to interact with Cena to hype WM, although I can't really think of anyone who would work in that role. Rock is the "bad guy" in the feud, it would fit that Hollywood Rock persona.I guess that would risk actually having crowds turn on Rocky though, when a central tenet of Cena's current angle is that the crowd loves The Rock when he does as little as humanly possible to reciprocate. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby Driver Reborn 12/28/11 2:47:00 AM #70:	Lance Storm says if you want things to get better, stop burying everyone and pointing out their (sometimes legit) flaws on TV. just something I read on his twitter last night that made some sense to me. -- Fly Eagles Fly, on the Road to Victory! http://last.fm/user/xdevilbunny \|\| http://rateyourmusic.com/~VelociBrad <cite>Kirby Driver Reborn posted [p:603196] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Lance Storm says if you want things to get better, stop burying everyone and pointing out their (sometimes legit) flaws on TV. just something I read on his twitter last night that made some sense to me. -- Fly Eagles Fly, on the Road to Victory!http://last.fm/user/xdevilbunny \|\| http://rateyourmusic.com/~VelociBrad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 12/28/11 2:47:00 AM #71:	Yeah, the trick is who is even LEFT that the rock hasa direct FRIENDLY link to. Christian is there, but he feuded with christian not long before he left and Trips is one of his archnemsises. Maybe someone young who they can play off as idolizing the Rock, like the Miz-- but they burned that bridge last year so itd have to be someone else-- maybe Ryder? But thats a lot of pressure to put on someone as inexperienced as Ryder and all the other solid candidates, like Ziggler and Swagger are heels -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:603197] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, the trick is who is even LEFT that the rock hasa direct FRIENDLY link to.Christian is there, but he feuded with christian not long before he left and Trips is one of his archnemsises.Maybe someone young who they can play off as idolizing the Rock, like the Miz-- but they burned that bridge last year so itd have to be someone else-- maybe Ryder? But thats a lot of pressure to put on someone as inexperienced as Ryder and all the other solid candidates, like Ziggler and Swagger are heels -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 12/28/11 2:48:00 AM #72:	From: Kirby Driver Reborn \| #070 Lance Storm says if you want things to get better, stop burying everyone and pointing out their (sometimes legit) flaws on TV. just something I read on his twitter last night that made some sense to me. I think this is precisely what everyone was complaining about with Cole. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:603198] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: Kirby Driver Reborn \| #070Lance Storm says if you want things to get better, stop burying everyone and pointing out their (sometimes legit) flaws on TV. just something I read on his twitter last night that made some sense to me.I think this is precisely what everyone was complaining about with Cole. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 12/28/11 3:01:00 AM #73:	From: Lopen \| #005 Post regarding the purged Suicide League since it's sorta topical in here. Bonus Q was who has more segments this week, Laurinaitis, Teddy I picked Sheamus, Teddy eaed picked Daniel Bryan, Laurinaitis Jona picked Dolph Ziggler, Laurinaitis dp picked Laurinaitis GTM picked Laurinaitis XIII may have picked FUNKHAUSER Lopen you actually just CLINCHED the whole game due to SPOILERS no Bryan match this week SPOILERS And since this is the last round, even if JONA beats you this round, hes still MUCH more than 3 points behind you. The ONLY way you could have lost was if you went out and the two of them went on a run. So congratulations, you should PM or IM me soon to sort out the prize. That said I REALLY want to run some sort of contest for RUMBLE so be on the look out for it. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:603199] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: Lopen \| #005Post regarding the purged Suicide League since it's sorta topical in here. Bonus Q was who has more segments this week, Laurinaitis, Teddy I picked Sheamus, Teddyeaed picked Daniel Bryan, LaurinaitisJona picked Dolph Ziggler, Laurinaitisdp picked LaurinaitisGTM picked LaurinaitisXIII may have picked FUNKHAUSERLopen you actually just CLINCHED the whole game due to SPOILERS no Bryan match this week SPOILERSAnd since this is the last round, even if JONA beats you this round, hes still MUCH more than 3 points behind you. The ONLY way you could have lost was if you went out and the two of them went on a run.So congratulations, you should PM or IM me soon to sort out the prize.That said I REALLY want to run some sort of contest for RUMBLE so be on the look out for it. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngedwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 12/28/11 6:28:00 AM #74:	Another interesting topic is the one where we don't spend money on PPVs. But the thing is, WWE's prices for PPVs are obscenely expensive, and three hours of entertainment is not worth $55. If they lowered the price, I'm sure many people would buy them. I personally only buy if I have people to split it, because my money could be spent on better things. If I, say, bought a new video game for only $5 more, I get MUCH more than three hours of entertainment. -- Xbox GT: PrivateBiscuit1 Down with Zhang. Let there be Biscuit! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:603200] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Another interesting topic is the one where we don't spend money on PPVs.But the thing is, WWE's prices for PPVs are obscenely expensive, and three hours of entertainment is not worth $55. If they lowered the price, I'm sure many people would buy them. I personally only buy if I have people to split it, because my money could be spent on better things. If I, say, bought a new video game for only $5 more, I get MUCH more than three hours of entertainment. -- Xbox GT: PrivateBiscuit1Down with Zhang. Let there be Biscuit! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 12/28/11 6:43:00 AM #75:	PPVs over here only cost £15 and I think that is perfectly reasonable, (about $24) - and not all of them are actually PPV! Off the top of my head we got OtL, Night of Champions, MitB and Vengeance for free this year. But yeah, 8~ hour videogames cost the same as a ~3 hour PPV in the US (right?) and that's odd to me. -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. The guru champ isn't such a SuperNiceDog, he made me change my sig! <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:603201] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> PPVs over here only cost £15 and I think that is perfectly reasonable, (about $24) - and not all of them are actually PPV! Off the top of my head we got OtL, Night of Champions, MitB and Vengeance for free this year.But yeah, 8~ hour videogames cost the same as a ~3 hour PPV in the US (right?) and that's odd to me. -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism.The guru champ isn't such a SuperNiceDog, he made me change my sig! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 7:50:00 AM #76:	thedifference in cost is prolly related to how much of a cut Sky Box Office takes compared to the other american PPV carriers. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603202] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> thedifference in cost is prolly related to how much of a cut Sky Box Office takes compared to the other american PPV carriers. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 12/28/11 10:15:00 AM #77:	While you're making splits don't forget the online portion watching. Ratings don't, can't mean as much. Hell, frigging twitter is that group -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:603203] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> While you're making splits don't forget the online portion watching. Ratings don't, can't mean as much. Hell, frigging twitter is that group -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:20:00 AM #78:	But i don't get the whole 50 bucks isn't worth 3 hours, don't UFC PPVs pretty much make 300 million a year? -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603204] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> But i don't get the whole 50 bucks isn't worth 3 hours, don't UFC PPVs pretty much make 300 million a year? -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 10:25:00 AM #79:	The rumor is that they'll keep maybe half their PPVs as PPVs and put the rest on WWE Network as a way to entice people to subscribe. I honestly think that should work out really well for WWE fans and it will help get WWE Network carried. It remains to be seen whether or not WWE has a large enough audience to SUSTAIN a network, but in the short term it's win/win. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603205] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> The rumor is that they'll keep maybe half their PPVs as PPVs and put the rest on WWE Network as a way to entice people to subscribe.I honestly think that should work out really well for WWE fans and it will help get WWE Network carried. It remains to be seen whether or not WWE has a large enough audience to SUSTAIN a network, but in the short term it's win/win. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TimJab 12/28/11 10:25:00 AM #80:	UFC is much more mainstream at this point I think. For some reason, WWE is trying to appeal to children who have to go to bed before the main event and can't afford tickets and PPVs. I don't get it. <cite>TimJab posted [p:603206] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> UFC is much more mainstream at this point I think. For some reason, WWE is trying to appeal to children who have to go to bed before the main event and can't afford tickets and PPVs. I don't get it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:27:00 AM #81:	and top end boxing cards make even more, sure industry as a whole is struggling, but the big draws can draw a million easily. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603207] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> and top end boxing cards make even more, sure industry as a whole is struggling, but the big draws can draw a million easily. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffee Ninja 12/28/11 10:31:00 AM #82:	So...I hear Orton is hurt? Herniated disc in his back? I havent checked reports myself...but this is what im hearing on my facebook group. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt37rzo2Jk1r4d7qpo11_r2_400.gif <cite>Coffee Ninja posted [p:603208] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> So...I hear Orton is hurt? Herniated disc in his back? I havent checked reports myself...but this is what im hearing on my facebook group. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt37rzo2Jk1r4d7qpo11_r2_400.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffee Ninja 12/28/11 10:32:00 AM #83:	Also, lets fill this up quick, we need Jericho to have a topic in time for Monday! -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt37rzo2Jk1r4d7qpo11_r2_400.gif <cite>Coffee Ninja posted [p:603209] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Also, lets fill this up quick, we need Jericho to have a topic in time for Monday! -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt37rzo2Jk1r4d7qpo11_r2_400.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 10:33:00 AM #84:	From: TimJab \| #080 UFC is much more mainstream at this point I think. For some reason, WWE is trying to appeal to children who have to go to bed before the main event and can't afford tickets and PPVs. I don't get it. You kinda answered your own question, in a way. A big part of it is so as not to compete with UFC for PPV dollars. UFC is much more mainstream, but not to KIDS. That said, if there was ANY time to launch a strike against UFC PPVs and steal back some of those PPV dollars, 2012 is the time. UFC is stuck right now trying to balance keeping big fights on PPV while giving away more big fights for free than ever before on Fox/FX in an attempt to grow the sport, and on top of that they can't get both Brock and GSP healthy at the same time, and those are their two biggest PPV draws by leaps and bounds. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603210] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: TimJab \| #080UFC is much more mainstream at this point I think. For some reason, WWE is trying to appeal to children who have to go to bed before the main event and can't afford tickets and PPVs. I don't get it.You kinda answered your own question, in a way. A big part of it is so as not to compete with UFC for PPV dollars. UFC is much more mainstream, but not to KIDS.That said, if there was ANY time to launch a strike against UFC PPVs and steal back some of those PPV dollars, 2012 is the time. UFC is stuck right now trying to balance keeping big fights on PPV while giving away more big fights for free than ever before on Fox/FX in an attempt to grow the sport, and on top of that they can't get both Brock and GSP healthy at the same time, and those are their two biggest PPV draws by leaps and bounds. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TimJab 12/28/11 10:35:00 AM #85:	Which of these three things sells the most PPVs? No undercard, same price ($55) for all. John Cena vs. The Rock Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao Jon Jones vs. Anderson Silva I think that's the most lucrative UFC fight. Feels weird not having Lesnar but he doesn't have a truly compelling opponent to compare to the others unless Jones puts on weight, which is possible. Could be Silva vs. GSP I guess, but he's hurt. <cite>TimJab posted [p:603211] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Which of these three things sells the most PPVs? No undercard, same price ($55) for all.John Cena vs. The RockFloyd Mayweather vs. Manny PacquiaoJon Jones vs. Anderson SilvaI think that's the most lucrative UFC fight. Feels weird not having Lesnar but he doesn't have a truly compelling opponent to compare to the others unless Jones puts on weight, which is possible. Could be Silva vs. GSP I guess, but he's hurt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 10:35:00 AM #86:	Oh god no, Floyd vs. Pacquiao is THE big money PPV matchup that any sport can create right now. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603212] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Oh god no, Floyd vs. Pacquiao is THE big money PPV matchup that any sport can create right now. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:37:00 AM #87:	Silva ain't that hot a draw compared to GSP. Lesnar/Overeem really does look like the biggest draw possible. Floyd/Pac breaks the Mayweather/DLH fight, totally break 2 million. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603213] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Silva ain't that hot a draw compared to GSP.Lesnar/Overeem really does look like the biggest draw possible.Floyd/Pac breaks the Mayweather/DLH fight, totally break 2 million. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 10:40:00 AM #88:	Jon Jones isn't a huge PPV draw yet. He may be by the end of 2012 (and in fact he SHOULD be by the end of 2012). Anderson Silva is the greatest MMA fighter of all-time, but his PPV buys aren't as spectacular as Brock and GSP because he doesn't speak English. That would be a purist's dream match to be sure, but it's like saying "How many PPV buys would CM Punk vs. Shawn Michaels do?" There's a huge difference between being great and being a draw. UFC is proving that even with real sports, what draws the most viewers is not the biggest matchup, but the best storyline. All the PPVs they do that have "heated rivals" (hint: it's a work) main-eventing against each other do better business than just flat out great fights with no manufactured animosity, unless GSP or Brock is involved. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603214] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Jon Jones isn't a huge PPV draw yet. He may be by the end of 2012 (and in fact he SHOULD be by the end of 2012).Anderson Silva is the greatest MMA fighter of all-time, but his PPV buys aren't as spectacular as Brock and GSP because he doesn't speak English.That would be a purist's dream match to be sure, but it's like saying "How many PPV buys would CM Punk vs. Shawn Michaels do?" There's a huge difference between being great and being a draw.UFC is proving that even with real sports, what draws the most viewers is not the biggest matchup, but the best storyline. All the PPVs they do that have "heated rivals" (hint: it's a work) main-eventing against each other do better business than just flat out great fights with no manufactured animosity, unless GSP or Brock is involved. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:43:00 AM #89:	Brock managed 1.6 million buys and that's still 800k below what Mayweather put up, that keeps impressing me because UFC 100 also had a GSP fight. Mayweather/DLH was pretty much those two and Pacman/Mayweather can break that. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603215] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Brock managed 1.6 million buys and that's still 800k below what Mayweather put up, that keeps impressing me because UFC 100 also had a GSP fight. Mayweather/DLH was pretty much those two and Pacman/Mayweather can break that. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffee Ninja 12/28/11 10:44:00 AM #90:	News on Orton - As noted earlier, Randy Orton was injured at last night's SmackDown tapings in Indianapolis during the Falls Count Anywhere main event against Wade Barrett. Orton has been removed from this week's live events. Word backstage was that Orton suffered some sort of back injury and it has to do with at least one of the discs in his back. Orton could miss up to 6 months of in-ring time, causing him to miss WrestleMania 28. An official update from WWE should be available soon. Damn, I'm not much of an Orton fan, but you don't wanna see the guys get hurt. Sure theres that evil part of me that feels this is good timing for D-Bry, Wade and Christian(He should be back soon yes?). But unless your like Hogan, I dont really want to see you get hurt badly. HASHTAG FACE >_> -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt37rzo2Jk1r4d7qpo11_r2_400.gif <cite>Coffee Ninja posted [p:603216] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> News on Orton- As noted earlier, Randy Orton was injured at last night's SmackDown tapings in Indianapolis during the Falls Count Anywhere main event against Wade Barrett. Orton has been removed from this week's live events. Word backstage was that Orton suffered some sort of back injury and it has to do with at least one of the discs in his back. Orton could miss up to 6 months of in-ring time, causing him to miss WrestleMania 28. An official update from WWE should be available soon. Damn, I'm not much of an Orton fan, but you don't wanna see the guys get hurt. Sure theres that evil part of me that feels this is good timing for D-Bry, Wade and Christian(He should be back soon yes?). But unless your like Hogan, I dont really want to see you get hurt badly. HASHTAG FACE >_> -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt37rzo2Jk1r4d7qpo11_r2_400.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 10:45:00 AM #91:	That said, if Rashad Evans wins his fight on UFC on Fox 2 to get the title shot against Jones, that's probably the UFC's biggest non-Brock/GSP 2012 PPV. Maybe even bigger than any Brock fight if he loses this Friday. GSP vs. Nick Diaz is gonna be the biggest UFC PPV of 2012 if it manages to happen by the end of the year. Hell yeah All-Purpose Wrestling/MMA/Boxing Discussion Topic -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603217] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> That said, if Rashad Evans wins his fight on UFC on Fox 2 to get the title shot against Jones, that's probably the UFC's biggest non-Brock/GSP 2012 PPV. Maybe even bigger than any Brock fight if he loses this Friday.GSP vs. Nick Diaz is gonna be the biggest UFC PPV of 2012 if it manages to happen by the end of the year.Hell yeah All-Purpose Wrestling/MMA/Boxing Discussion Topic -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffee Ninja 12/28/11 10:45:00 AM #92:	Is Pacman/Mayweather gonna happen? Or did it happen? Or are we just spitballing big matches? Cause I dont like Mayweather at all, and would love to see Pacman kick his ass. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt37rzo2Jk1r4d7qpo11_r2_400.gif <cite>Coffee Ninja posted [p:603218] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Is Pacman/Mayweather gonna happen? Or did it happen? Or are we just spitballing big matches?Cause I dont like Mayweather at all, and would love to see Pacman kick his ass. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt37rzo2Jk1r4d7qpo11_r2_400.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:48:00 AM #93:	Mayweather is a total heel :P He's in jail for 90 days though. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603219] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Mayweather is a total heel :PHe's in jail for 90 days though. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 10:49:00 AM #94:	Mayweather is the best kind of heel: the heel who is totally the bad guy but who has legit reasoning. This whole drug test thing is great for building up the tension between both sides. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603220] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Mayweather is the best kind of heel: the heel who is totally the bad guy but who has legit reasoning.This whole drug test thing is great for building up the tension between both sides. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:50:00 AM #95:	What is the biggest non GSP/Brock fight? Evans/Rampage and Shamrock/ortiz are the biggest feuds they seem to have had. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603221] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> What is the biggest non GSP/Brock fight?Evans/Rampage and Shamrock/ortiz are the biggest feuds they seem to have had. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:51:00 AM #96:	From: JaKyL25 \| #094 Mayweather is the best kind of heel: the heel who is totally the bad guy but who has legit reasoning. This whole drug test thing is great for building up the tension between both sides. He was somehow face against the big show, does the WWE not know how to handle heels??? -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603222] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #094Mayweather is the best kind of heel: the heel who is totally the bad guy but who has legit reasoning.This whole drug test thing is great for building up the tension between both sides.He was somehow face against the big show, does the WWE not know how to handle heels??? -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 10:54:00 AM #97:	From: voltch \| #095 What is the biggest non GSP/Brock fight? Evans/Rampage and Shamrock/ortiz are the biggest feuds they seem to have had. I THINK it's Evans/Rampage. The Shamrock/Ortiz blowoff was given away on free TV. EDIT: Wait, what did you mean by "biggest?" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603223] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> From: voltch \| #095What is the biggest non GSP/Brock fight?Evans/Rampage and Shamrock/ortiz are the biggest feuds they seem to have had.I THINK it's Evans/Rampage.The Shamrock/Ortiz blowoff was given away on free TV.EDIT: Wait, what did you mean by "biggest?" -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:55:00 AM #98:	Wiki says Liddell vs Ortiz Weird how Randy Couture doesn't seem to be much of a draw on his own. EDIT:Biggest as in biggest moneymakers. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603224] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Wiki says Liddell vs OrtizWeird how Randy Couture doesn't seem to be much of a draw on his own.EDIT:Biggest as in biggest moneymakers. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/28/11 10:55:00 AM #99:	Randy Couture is like The Undertaker. No one really pays to see him, but everyone appreciates him being on a card they paid for. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:603225] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Randy Couture is like The Undertaker. No one really pays to see him, but everyone appreciates him being on a card they paid for. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 12/28/11 10:57:00 AM #100:	He also seems to be the perfect guy to get people over. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog <cite>voltch posted [p:603226] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> He also seems to be the perfect guy to get people over. -- Vote for this guy in every contest, our Guru champion: SuperNiceDog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muddersmilk 12/28/11 11:30:00 AM #101:	Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao would crush anything WWE can put up. I don't like boxing, I don't watch boxing, I don't follow boxing, but I would probably watch that fight. -- (Maniac64 at work) Guns don't kill people, Kinder eggs do. I saw it in a post on GameFAQs. ~FAHtastic <cite>muddersmilk posted [p:603227] in All-Purpos... [t:61482150]...</cite> <quote> Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao would crush anything WWE can put up. I don't like boxing, I don't watch boxing, I don't follow boxing, but I would probably watch that fight. -- (Maniac64 at work) Guns don't kill people, Kinder eggs do. I saw it in a post on GameFAQs. ~FAHtastic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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