Board 8 > Mercenaries 3 Day 76 Results: Crimson Beyond a Fleeting Eternity

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GANON1025
10/30/11 4:10:00 PM
#101:


it's a failed sir chris writing project

and if Failed Projects don't count, then there isn't even a mercs 2

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/30/11 4:11:00 PM
#102:


failed sir chris writing projects don't count either!!

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HeroicGammaRay
10/30/11 4:25:00 PM
#103:


planning for the next run is already underway, but don't expect to hear anything for a good long while. we are reworking the game from the ground up.
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Justin_Crossing
10/30/11 4:27:00 PM
#104:


From: HeroicGammaRay | #103
planning for the next run is already underway, but don't expect to hear anything for a good long while. we are reworking the game from the ground up.


we?

that means there's more than one real admin?

my word

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FFDragon
10/30/11 6:03:00 PM
#105:


my internet decided to go away for several hours

how did you do?

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Drakeryn
10/30/11 8:00:00 PM
#106:


I think your internet is just responding to the announcement that planning for North Pole Mafia is under way.


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X_Dante_X
10/30/11 8:34:00 PM
#107:


Just finished the OoT race

I am a beast

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X_Dante_X
10/30/11 10:06:00 PM
#108:


the only person who finished after me is still going :(

I least I finished like 2 hours ahead of him

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X_Dante_X
10/30/11 11:15:00 PM
#109:


did I say 2 hours ahead

I meant he's still in the same room, poor guy =(

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Drakeryn
10/31/11 2:48:00 AM
#110:


Incidentally. In case anyone is still curious.

http://wintermute.byethost7.com/index.html


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Silverliner182V
10/31/11 9:14:00 AM
#111:


Wanna hear a scary halloween story?

Mercs 3.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
10/31/11 9:17:00 AM
#112:


I would play this!

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FFDragon
10/31/11 9:25:00 AM
#113:


Silverliner182V posted...
Wanna hear a scary halloween story?

Mercs 3.


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Regaro_Ukiera
10/31/11 9:27:00 AM
#114:


From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #112
I would play this!


No.

Don't

Run

Far away

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Lopen
10/31/11 11:57:00 AM
#115:


From: Drakeryn | #110
Incidentally. In case anyone is still curious.

http://wintermute.byethost7.com/index.html


I'm actually reading this. It's fun nostalgia so far-- helps me remember how much better this game used to be. Up to day 23.

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Lopen
10/31/11 12:05:00 PM
#116:


Also to correct something: Silverliner didn't really manipulate me into denying Vic the ability to bid on Shanoa or anyone else. I mean, yeah, he tried to convince me, and he made good points, but I'm pretty sure he had the ability to outbid me on Seymour so yeah, it was largely because I didn't want to risk Silver getting on the Seymour train.

And also because yeah I was a spiteful bastard in the early days. But it wasn't like I wouldn't have been even without some convincing from Silver.

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Silverliner182V
10/31/11 12:13:00 PM
#117:


the question is are you playing in next game? I know I'm not unless there's some interesting 'faces' to beat in...!

Like crushing "kamikaze potato." again.

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Tom Bombadil
10/31/11 12:20:00 PM
#118:


No.

Don't

Run

Far away


Don't listen to Reg. We have candy! You should play. Join us! :D :D :D

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Tom Bombadil
10/31/11 12:21:00 PM
#119:


I understand the concept of fresh players but I am going to be quite sad if they don't let me play in 4, and I don't think you have many people left who still WANT to play >_>

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Lopen
10/31/11 12:22:00 PM
#120:


There's a chance I'll be involved in some way, though I'm a lot more sour on mercs as a game in concept actually working after how the final went-- forget admin problems and etc etc, if the game's integrity can be compromised so easily I'm just down on the voting aspect even being possible to work at all. Like I said, if the voters were just "stupid" it wouldn't have been an issue for me in the least, but yeah.

Maybe I'll get over it, though.

And "never say never" but the chances of that involvement being as a player is next to 0. Also worth saying that I think the plan is to try and get a fresh batch of players anyway should it happen-- but I'll also say I don't think that's a very reasonable goal.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/31/11 12:28:00 PM
#121:


From: Drakeryn | #110
Incidentally. In case anyone is still curious.

http://wintermute.byethost7.com/index.html


I can think of two things to say here. Thing 1:

http://d2o7bfz2il9cb7.cloudfront.net/main-qimg-5b93bb9d90085871c5cf384f68883a5a

What did you get, drak? I know what I got.

Thing 2:

'...Using state-of-the-art machines and ruthless policies, the syndicates battled. Their mindless, greed-fueled wars spread through the globe like wildfire, consuming everything in their wake. All that remains of a once-lush, beautiful planet is a charred battlefield.

-The Ashes of Democracy'

Call me an optimist or a fool, but I think this is a good result. The corpses of failed iterations of mercenaries have fertilized the ground and the disaster of this run has consumed the bad seeds. Now all we need to do is plant a new seed and let it grow. If there's one thing that we still haven't burned, it's time.

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Tom Bombadil
10/31/11 12:29:00 PM
#122:


If there's one thing that we still haven't burned, it's time.

what was mercs 3 like in your universe

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Dantezoid
10/31/11 12:29:00 PM
#123:


Numbers told me when I replaced that everyone left wanted nothing more than for me to lose

I didn't know how right he was until those journals.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/31/11 12:30:00 PM
#124:


From: Tom Bombadil | #122
If there's one thing that we still haven't burned, it's time.

what was mercs 3 like in your universe


A pleasant distraction, really. The advantage of being an outside observer is that you can see what's wrong without having to endure it.

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The Mana Sword
10/31/11 12:32:00 PM
#125:


wait a second

Mercs 3 took two and a half years?

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FFDragon
10/31/11 12:37:00 PM
#126:


Lopen posted...
I'm just down on the voting aspect even being possible to work at all.

Hey well now that the journals have been posted you can see that I wanted nothing to do with a Chaotic Evil voting block (aw yeah ideals) but if this in turn blossoms the rule of 'No Player or Admin Voting' that I've been championing since M1 I'll take it.

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Silverliner182V
10/31/11 12:39:00 PM
#127:


if I ever play another mercs game again I'll definitely selfban my votes since certain people were pretty upset by my votes in m3.

the problem is keeping a voting crowd that isn't also the playing crowd

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KanzarisKelshen
10/31/11 12:41:00 PM
#128:


From: Silverliner182V | #127
if I ever play another mercs game again I'll definitely selfban my votes since certain people were pretty upset by my votes in m3.

the problem is keeping a voting crowd that isn't also the playing crowd


The solution to that is obvious and you guys don't like it. So eh, votes, less headdesking. Pick one.

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Lopen
10/31/11 12:42:00 PM
#129:


Chaotic Evil would not have the coordination to be in a "voting block." That's Neutral Evil territory. Chaotic Evil would just vote for whichever team they felt would cause the most whining in any given match, I believe.

(And for what it's worth I never said your vote was bought off in any way. That's why I still respect your votes, despite being intentionally wrong!)

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KanzarisKelshen
10/31/11 12:44:00 PM
#130:


From: Lopen | #129
Chaotic Evil would not have the coordination to be in a "voting block." That's Neutral Evil territory. Chaotic Evil would just vote for whichever team they felt would cause the most whining in any given match, I believe.

(And for what it's worth I never said your vote was bought off in any way. That's why I still respect your votes, despite being intentionally wrong!)


This, yes. Neutral Evil is selfish but can be worked with. Chaotic Evil eats babies.

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FFDragon
10/31/11 12:48:00 PM
#131:


Well that's fair I guess. Though I still contest I'm in the right!

I intentionally abstained in Silver/KJH and Drak/KJH in the RR because I thought KJH would win.

Nothing in the rules stating I have to vote, just that if I do vote it has to be what I actually believe. And I stuck to that the entire way through.

For better or worse my entire Mercs philosophy for two iterations was to be loyal to the rules and my word, and nothing but. It's why I have still yet to break a deal and also why I wanted to watch the game burn, but only within the framework that allowed it.

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Lopen
10/31/11 12:59:00 PM
#132:


Drak and Silver are both totally Neutral Evil by the way.
FFD and Wang are Lawful Evil. Actually Wang might be Neutral Evil given how many bogus rulings he made.
I'm um... Chaotic Chaotic, as some dude so beautifully put it. I wish I could say I was Chaotic Evil but I played the good guy in this run too often for my own good despite getting my fair share of puppy kicking in. Semi might be Chaotic Evil being anti-conspiracy and all, but that's probably Chaotic Neutral territory.

I don't think anyone else actually falls on the evil spectrum. Most are neutral. Numbers looked bad by earlier in the game by association with Wang but he's not really evil. Saps like Vic that stay true to intentionally skewed deals are Lawful Good. Chris definitely isn't Lawful Good despite calling himself a paladin in the past.

Why am I rambling on about this. I blame Ed Bellis's latest abandoned project.

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FFDragon
10/31/11 1:02:00 PM
#133:


Bellissssssssssssssssssssssss

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/31/11 1:05:00 PM
#134:


From: Tom Bombadil | #120
I understand the concept of fresh players but I am going to be quite sad if they don't let me play in 4, and I don't think you have many people left who still WANT to play >_>


As an old friend of Sceptile's I owe it to him to not force him to get caught up in this as it comes crashing down around him.

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dragon22391
10/31/11 1:11:00 PM
#135:


Both groups are probably going to be more resistant to any form of corrupting influence than I'd like.

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Dantezoid
10/31/11 1:12:00 PM
#136:


reading through these, you make it sound like numbers was a tyrant who led through fear and altair kos

somehow I am not surprised

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FFDragon
10/31/11 1:18:00 PM
#137:


It makes for a far more satisfying story when the movie rights get picked up.

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dragon22391
10/31/11 1:37:00 PM
#138:


a 'tyrant' huh

dammit dante

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dragon22391
10/31/11 1:39:00 PM
#139:


also guys we should uh

cut back on the mercs bashing? hopefully this next one will have significantly more planning behind it, and killing the interest before it even starts isn't the best of ideas

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Dantezoid
10/31/11 1:41:00 PM
#140:


well you did have the ability to summon the only tyrant that matters

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Gatarix
10/31/11 1:45:00 PM
#141:


reading through these, you make it sound like numbers was a tyrant who led through fear and altair kos

To be fair, he was totally the face in the Chris/numbers feud.


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FFDragon
10/31/11 1:46:00 PM
#142:


To be fairer, it's nearly impossible to go into a feud with Chris and not come out looking like 80's Hulk Hogan.

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Achromatic
10/31/11 1:55:00 PM
#143:


Numbers was so not the face of the feud with me.

He thought he could KO Sparrow.

It ended up costing his team mercs, in the end.

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Silverliner182V
10/31/11 2:03:00 PM
#144:


<Silverliner> [GANON] realizes that 90% of gunners are the most boring thing you could possibly submit to a game based around interpretation and voting
<Silverliner> like, they're not variable at all. they shoot bullets can't argue with that
<Silverliner> and they all basically do it in the same way
<Silverliner> i'm sure if you gave luigi a minigun and taught him how to use it, he could be a 4/day


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KanzarisKelshen
10/31/11 2:04:00 PM
#145:


Solution: start with much more low tech gunners next time. Captain Claw prime D15 release clearly.

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FFDragon
10/31/11 2:04:00 PM
#146:


No way Chris. You were totally the M3 Mark Henry. You spent so much time inducting numbers into the HALL OF PAIN that you really left no viable alternative.

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/31/11 2:08:00 PM
#147:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #145
Solution: start with much more low tech gunners next time. Captain Claw prime D15 release clearly.


On a serious note, I feel like we should retire the Infra system.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/31/11 2:11:00 PM
#148:


From: Regaro_Ukiera | #147
On a serious note, I feel like we should retire the Infra system.


We have like three different alternatives and at least one is ready to go. This was never in doubt. Or rather, retiring the double-advantage infra system was never in doubt.

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Achromatic
10/31/11 2:11:00 PM
#149:


On a serious note neither one of you should be anywhere near rebuilding mercs tbh.

From: FFDragon | #146
No way Chris. You were totally the M3 Mark Henry. You spent so much time inducting numbers into the HALL OF PAIN that you really left no viable alternative.


Pfft, no way. I was like the M3 face US Title holding John Cena. Numbers was like Carlito and Jesus who attacked me from behind. Not my fault I beat the hell out of him.

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X_Dante_X
10/31/11 2:11:00 PM
#150:


What? I can't even imagine mercs without Infra, the entire framework of the game was <supposed> to be about economy, and defeating teams to better your own.

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