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LlednarTwem
10/25/11 3:37:00 PM
#251:


I kind of have to agree, to be honest. Don't get me wrong, it goes with the flash flawlessly, and the pieces that make it up are top notch. It's just that on it's own, it just feels kind of odd as one big song. Also, is the first part its own song anywhere in this or another album? I can't find it, and that was one I was kind of hoping for.

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dexter28
10/25/11 3:44:00 PM
#252:


After listening, I feel the same way. I'd convinced myself when I saw it that Cascade was refering to an extended version of the first song in the flash, not the entirety of the music of the flash.

The first song is in the album titled Cascade (Beta), but I'm pretty sure it's a bonus track.

Edit: Yes, it's a bonus track along with the last song from the flash (Black Hole/Green Sun), a How Do I Live remix, and a full song for the one tune that plays after the Jade/Beq strife.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/25/11 3:55:00 PM
#253:


From: dexter28 | #252
After listening, I feel the same way. I'd convinced myself when I saw it that Cascade was refering to an extended version of the first song in the flash, not the entirety of the music of the flash.

The first song is in the album titled Cascade (Beta), but I'm pretty sure it's a bonus track.

Edit: Yes, it's a bonus track along with the last song from the flash (Black Hole/Green Sun), a How Do I Live remix, and a full song for the one tune that plays after the Jade/Beq strife.


Cascade Beta isn't Cascade Beta. It's Descend Guitar, according to Tensei himself...who put it up a year before this flash.


From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #249
I don't really like to think of it as a piece by itself. That's treating it like some kind of cobbled-together monstrosity.


It is a piece by itself. That's kind of like trying to split these three songs in spite of them not being freestanding if you listen to the album they come from:


(Notice the first two songs are even part of the same video...and they're separate tracks in that album! Hell, the *second* video is in fact part of the same 'track' as the second song. Pretty similar to Cascade's case!)

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/25/11 4:05:00 PM
#254:


Cascade (Beta) is kind of disappointing.

The beginning part (the part that's used in the flash), is FANTASTIC, even though you can tell it was being storyboreded a little. And it's great, but then it transitions into a random Tensei mess of wailing guitar.

Black Hole/Green Sun is great though. Still need to listen to the whole album, though. Only listened to the first half and the bonus tracks.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/25/11 4:12:00 PM
#255:


From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #254
Cascade (Beta) is kind of disappointing.

The beginning part (the part that's used in the flash), is FANTASTIC, even though you can tell it was being storyboreded a little. And it's great, but then it transitions into a random Tensei mess of wailing guitar.

Black Hole/Green Sun is great though. Still need to listen to the whole album, though. Only listened to the first half and the bonus tracks.


You say that like Tensei Guitar isn't top tier!

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TsunamiXXVIII
10/25/11 4:24:00 PM
#256:


Wow. That was...epic. Still trying to figure out the full scope of what happened. Looks like all of the human kids are god-tier now; PM is the only remaining exile, but she's got the ring as well somehow and is now Bec Noir's equal, and...uh...I'm still not sure what all that stuff Noir was doing with the red tentacles and the frog that is also the universe or whatever was all about. And then there was a shootout between Spades Slick and Snowman and Slick won, and Doc Scratch finally got his wish, to die...and there was still a demented Gamzee even though there was also a Gamzee with the rest of the heroic trolls, and they briefly switched over to the Ancestors for some reason even though they didn't appear to do anything meaningful in this flash. Also the entire thing was like 15-20 minutes, and unfortunately if you miss something, you have to go back to the beginning. I really hate that; wish you could just rewind.

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Viktor Vaughn
10/25/11 4:28:00 PM
#257:


I'm still not sure what all that stuff Noir was doing with the red tentacles and the frog that is also the universe or whatever was all about

he was killing it

because he's the cancer

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kevwaffles
10/25/11 4:29:00 PM
#258:


From: TsunamiXXVIII | #256
Also the entire thing was like 15-20 minutes, and unfortunately if you miss something, you have to go back to the beginning. I really hate that; wish you could just rewind.


There is a chapter select in this one...

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KanzarisKelshen
10/25/11 4:29:00 PM
#259:


From: TsunamiXXVIII | #256
Wow. That was...epic. Still trying to figure out the full scope of what happened. Looks like all of the human kids are god-tier now; PM is the only remaining exile, but she's got the ring as well somehow and is now Bec Noir's equal, and...uh...I'm still not sure what all that stuff Noir was doing with the red tentacles and the frog that is also the universe or whatever was all about. And then there was a shootout between Spades Slick and Snowman and Slick won, and Doc Scratch finally got his wish, to die...and there was still a demented Gamzee even though there was also a Gamzee with the rest of the heroic trolls, and they briefly switched over to the Ancestors for some reason even though they didn't appear to do anything meaningful in this flash. Also the entire thing was like 15-20 minutes, and unfortunately if you miss something, you have to go back to the beginning. I really hate that; wish you could just rewind.


WV might not be out for the count. There's a reason he was carried with PM.

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Azp2k32
10/25/11 4:30:00 PM
#260:


TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Also the entire thing was like 15-20 minutes, and unfortunately if you miss something, you have to go back to the beginning. I really hate that; wish you could just rewind.

There's a scene select for that. Not perfect, but still.

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tcaz2
10/25/11 4:33:00 PM
#261:


Oh my god.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003542

...Does this dialogue remind you of anything?

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KanzarisKelshen
10/25/11 4:38:00 PM
#262:


Null reversed: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/weird?before=1319553155

(second post)

Anyone know where it comes from?

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KanzarisKelshen
10/25/11 4:39:00 PM
#263:


From: tcaz2 | #261
Oh my god.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003542

...Does this dialogue remind you of anything?


Yeah, Cal is English. He's the most important character in Homestuck, as we discussed before.

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tcaz2
10/25/11 4:42:00 PM
#264:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #263
Yeah, Cal is English. He's the most important character in Homestuck, as we discussed before.


So basically, Cal = Mr. Scratch (who is a puppet) = Lord English then

The vast joke indeed.

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TsunamiXXVIII
10/25/11 4:56:00 PM
#265:


Okay, read over the other topic and I think I'm good now.

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/25/11 5:51:00 PM
#266:


From: tcaz2 | #261
Oh my god.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003542

...Does this dialogue remind you of anything?


Well it was shown that Lil Cal was used to create Doc Scratch so it makes sense they'd have the same laugh. <_<

Cal could end up being English but that seems kind of weird as Gamzee basically created him himself (then again, most important character in Homestuck?)

I also wouldn't rule out Lord English being...well, just Lord English, and not anyone else.

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tcaz2
10/25/11 6:31:00 PM
#267:


Well I mean, I don't mean Cal and Doc Scratch are LITERALLY Lord English, but rather he would be controlling them as puppets.

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KimPilgrim
10/25/11 7:27:00 PM
#268:


Hey guys UPDATE

lol wait

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Natwaf_akidna
10/25/11 7:40:00 PM
#269:


THERE'S the curtain call.

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KimPilgrim
10/25/11 7:42:00 PM
#270:


Oh and looks like he finally got Cascade running on the site.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/25/11 7:44:00 PM
#271:


You guys so slooooooooooooow. We had this covered like twelve hours ago!

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SSBM_Guy
10/25/11 9:49:00 PM
#272:


I was talking to my friend about the flash and he said the last image looked REALLY familiar.

And then he found this.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002733

what could this even MEAN

MIDNIGHT CREW INTERMISSION PART 2

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SovietOmega
10/25/11 10:07:00 PM
#273:


ACT 1031

10 31

5 days

it would make sense. last MC intermission lacked an appearance of LE, and now the scratch happened and the sun and the watching all that with joy...

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PokeStalker
10/25/11 10:57:00 PM
#274:


Holy s***

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/25/11 11:54:00 PM
#275:


http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11938555890/about-eoa5-part-1

EoA talk, part 1. Part 2 is also up and he talks about actual plot-related things. Both are ENORMOUS, and there is more to come.

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KimPilgrim
10/26/11 12:38:00 AM
#276:


READING

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SovietOmega
10/26/11 6:26:00 AM
#277:


I like how we already pretty much broke everything down so that his explanation is comprised of much nodding. Though, he does point out a few neat little supporting things that certainly make sense in retrospect.

Can't wait to see where this goes <3

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KamikazePotato
10/26/11 7:32:00 AM
#278:


http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11941710181/about-eoa5-part-2

That 'the light takes time to travel through space so that explains the timeline inconsistencies' is pretty genius

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muddersmilk
10/26/11 7:52:00 AM
#279:


Ho ly Crap.

That was epic.

Also, a buddy of mine I have been trying to get to read Homestuck happened to come to my apartment right as I started the flash (no way was I waiting longer to watch it). He only watched a few seconds of it (John hammering them baddies) but afterwards he commented on it having good music.

I will get him to read this eventually.

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tereziWright
10/26/11 11:11:00 AM
#280:


Yes.

I will be maining this now.

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Equius_Zahhak
10/26/11 11:31:00 AM
#281:


yeah that's pretty cool I guess

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Viktor Vaughn
10/26/11 1:47:00 PM
#282:


http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11960418585/about-eoa5-part-3

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YetAnothrShadow
10/26/11 2:01:00 PM
#283:


I just realized a strange connection when reading that, I don't know if it was mentioned or not but...

Snowman is the 8 ball, she's connected with the trolls frog according to that.

The frog that Jade made was housed in an 8 ball. Coincidence or something more?

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SovietOmega
10/26/11 4:14:00 PM
#284:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
I just realized a strange connection when reading that, I don't know if it was mentioned or not but...

Snowman is the 8 ball, she's connected with the trolls frog according to that.

The frog that Jade made was housed in an 8 ball. Coincidence or something more?


looks like it could be a thing. a frog in the 8ball and an 8ball in the frog...a nice inversion

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SovietOmega
10/26/11 4:20:00 PM
#285:


"All of Act 5 could be subtitled “Jack Noir Kills Everybody” and that’s pretty much the guiding principle I had in structuring it from the start. Jack Noir has killed every major character, in one way or another (with maybe a few exceptions, like PM), including the entire population of two universes."

I liked this :3

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Paratroopa1
10/26/11 4:37:00 PM
#286:


Now I'm trying to think of who else Jack didn't kill.

He didn't kill Jade sorta, but he ordered it.

Did he ever kill Aradia?
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Paratroopa1
10/26/11 4:38:00 PM
#287:


Yeah, scratch that. I guess he did kill a lot of Aradiabot clones. Never killed alpha Aradia though as far as I can recall.
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SemiFinal vs Belarus
10/26/11 4:38:00 PM
#288:


all them aradiabots

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SovietOmega
10/26/11 4:44:00 PM
#289:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Yeah, scratch that. I guess he did kill a lot of Aradiabot clones. Never killed alpha Aradia though as far as I can recall.

scratching was indeed done :3

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Viktor Vaughn
10/26/11 4:47:00 PM
#290:


From: Paratroopa1 | #287
Yeah, scratch that. I guess he did kill a lot of Aradiabot clones. Never killed alpha Aradia though as far as I can recall.


didn't he kill dream aradia when he set fire to derse

and because dream aradia died, the alpha aradiabot exploded

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Radix
10/26/11 4:54:00 PM
#291:


Finally read all the comics

All of them.

Jegus

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Paratroopa1
10/26/11 4:54:00 PM
#292:


Man, maybe. I can never keep track of the stuff that happened in act 5 anymore.
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Luis_Sera89
10/26/11 4:58:00 PM
#293:


Jack killing Jade happened when Dream Jade died due to him cutting the chain of Prospit's moon and causing it to crash into Skaia.

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Altimadark
10/26/11 5:02:00 PM
#294:


Yes, but that was at the end of Act 4.

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SovietOmega
10/26/11 5:03:00 PM
#295:


so, we have a black and white bec powered entity each posessing a ring granting such power. PM has WV there because maybe there is a way he could survive. I am sure this is not the last we have seen of our beloved mayor...

On an almost tangential note, I wonder what would happen if someone wore both of those rings...

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EDumey
10/26/11 5:05:00 PM
#296:


From: SovietOmega | #295
so, we have a black and white bec powered entity each posessing a ring granting such power. PM has WV there because maybe there is a way he could survive. I am sure this is not the last we have seen of our beloved mayor...

On an almost tangential note, I wonder what would happen if someone wore both of those rings...


Plus Dog-tier Jade!

Imagine Jade wearing both rings.

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Altimadark
10/26/11 5:06:00 PM
#297:


Actually, this gets me thinking... with the session being scratched, would the rings still grant any power at all?

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tcaz2
10/26/11 5:07:00 PM
#298:


From: EDumey | #296
Imagine Jade wearing both rings.


So she's Dog Tier Jade with rings on. <.<

The rings don't affect humans.

(And before you say it, 10% = not furry so she's still human :p)

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Maniac64
10/26/11 5:15:00 PM
#299:


Altimadark posted...
Yes, but that was at the end of Act 4.

I don't think he meant just in Act 5 when he said Jack had killed nearly everyone.

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Equius_Zahhak
10/26/11 5:16:00 PM
#300:


You know who Jack never killed?

This guy

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