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transience
10/07/11 3:09:00 PM
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I haven't read a single topic and don't plan to until I finish this. it won't take long anyway.

(1) Mario vs. Bowser
(8) Jim vs. Queen Slug-for-a-Butt

(4) Conker vs. Great Mighty Poo
(5) Ike vs. Black Knight


Mario vs. Bowser -- expected, but oh well. 'slug-for-a-butt' is probably stronger than Earthworm Jim. I'm not joking.

Ike beats Conker because one is Nintendo and one is not. Also, one is in Smash and one is not. This could be close but whatever. Mario smashes either one.


(3) Kirby vs. Meta Knight
(6) Jill Valentine vs. Nemesis

(2) Sonic vs. Dr. Robotnik
(7) Katherine vs. Catherine

2002 rematch! Kirby/Jill is a close match in my mind, closer than it probably should be. I just see the Resident Evil pairing being better rivalry material than a couple of puffballs. That said, Kirby's probably more relevant today than Jill is despite her MVC3-ness.

Sonic gets stuck with Robotnik, leaving Knuckles out of the contest. Lame. I'm glad the Catherines made it but yeah. Sonic/Kirby rematch could be good -- we've seen Kirby upend him before -- but I think Sonic's iconic-ness helps him out here in a big way. Hopefully Sonic generations doesn't suck and actually helps him here.

(1) Mario vs. Bowser
(2) Sonic vs. Dr. Robotnik

FINALLY. Too bad Sonic is shackled by Robotnik. If this were Sonic/Knuckles vs. Mario/Bowser it might be a fair fight. I could see Sonic beating Mario just because of THE RIVALRY -- how sad is it Mario and Sonic finally meet after 9 years in a tag team contest -- but the likeliest scenario is Mario pounding Sonic into the ground, especially after all the perceived duds over the last ten years.

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voltch
10/07/11 3:11:00 PM
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whatisurnameplz
10/07/11 3:12:00 PM
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This bracket is so easy to predict outside of a few matches.

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:12:00 PM
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Katherine/Catherine got shafted imo

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FateStayAlbion
10/07/11 3:12:00 PM
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whatisurnameplz posted...
This bracket is so easy to predict outside of a few matches.

7th division is the only one I really find difficult

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ZFS
10/07/11 3:12:00 PM
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Same first division!

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FFDragon
10/07/11 3:13:00 PM
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Jill + Nemesis both being in UMVC3 factor tbqh

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10/07/11 3:14:00 PM
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voltch
10/07/11 3:14:00 PM
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Dissidia factor gonna run wild on yo asses

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XIII_rocks
10/07/11 3:14:00 PM
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Yeah, same first division as me. Pretty simple imo.

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transience
10/07/11 3:17:00 PM
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(1) X vs. Zero
(8) Captain Falcon vs. Shadow

(4) Guybrush vs. LeChuck
(5) Bartz vs. Gilgamesh

X and not Mega Man X, huh? Interesting. Guybrush and LeChuck vs. Bartz and Gilgamesh -- this is what we're reduced to in this contest! This seems like an easy pick -- Final Fantasy vs. Guybrush Threepwood -- but I could see the Monkey Island duo pulling off some magic. X and Zero slam the competition.

(3) Donkey Kong vs. King K. Rool
(6) Ezio vs. Rodrigo

(2) Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion
(7) Leon vs. Ada Wong

DK vs. Ezio -- if DK didn't have a choker's rep I'd probably back him, but Ezio is probably on DK's level at this point. Too bad Revelations won't be out until a week after this match. Anyway, going against Nintendo strikes me as a Bad Idea but DK vs. King K Rool isn't the iconic kind of rivalry I think of when I think of Nintendo. I'll take Ezio's personal tale over that.

Sub/Scorp vs. Leon/Ada is a huge match. Leon probably beats Sub-Zero but I think the MK duo are just a bit more iconic. The winner takes the fourpack.

(1) X vs. Zero
(2) Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion

I am heavily, heavily considering taking Sub and Scorpion. They just strike me as being more iconic. X and Zero aren't bad in this department though and they're stronger from a pure strength perspective. Eh, I'll probably stick with the Mega Men.

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whatisurnameplz
10/07/11 3:18:00 PM
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From: FateStayAlbion | #005
7th division is the only one I really find difficult


But that's really only because of the ffvii duo against solid and liquid. Outside of that the rest of the division is ridiculously easy.

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dragon22391
10/07/11 3:19:00 PM
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ZFS
10/07/11 3:19:00 PM
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I went DK/K.Rool over Ezio/Rodrigo because Rodrigo is bad news. I can't remember who Ezio faced in the last contest, but I thought he wasn't as popular as DK.

I made the same choices otherwise!

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transience
10/07/11 3:22:00 PM
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(1) Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Blue
(8) Raynor vs. Kerrigan

(4) Luigi vs. Waluigi
(5) Cecil vs. Golbez

Pokemon vs. Starcraft. Maybe in 2004 we would have a different result.

Hahahaha Luigi vs. Waluigi. Don't people antivote this on principle? Luigi is the obvious safe pick but I'm going with the one that isn't being dragged down by a damn anchor. Plus Cecil vs. Golbez is one of the best rivalries in the contest.

(3) Ryu vs. Ken
(6) Ratchet vs. Dr. Nefarious

(2) Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O'Donnell
(7) Yuna vs. Seymour

Fox vs. Yuna is a tossup - Seymour and Wolf are both pretty meh and Fox/Yuna are kinda close in strength. Yuna/Seymour aren't really rivals but I do think she's stronger than Fox. I don't have a lot of respect for Fox after some of his performances -- plus Smash ain't what it used to be.

(1) Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Blue
(3) Ryu vs. Ken

Yeah, I don't have much respect for human Pokemon characters. I'm really ignorant of the Red/Blue rivalry but I do know that Ryu/Ken is one of the five most classic rivalries in this contest. I'll take them. No way do I ever take Red over Ryu, at the very least.

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:22:00 PM
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I went DK>Ezio because who is Rodrigo

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Luis_Sera89
10/07/11 3:23:00 PM
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Ezio's contest history is a minor struggle with Simon Belmont before an easy loss to Zelda IIRC.

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Kamekguy
10/07/11 3:24:00 PM
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Vivi beat Altair and DK with similar numbers, right?

How much do you want to bet DKCR boosted the ape compared to people actually knowing how to pronounce Ezio's name from recent exposure?

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:25:00 PM
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Bah. You picked Red the same way I did. Boring!

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:25:00 PM
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Oh wait you took Cecil/Golzen over Luigi/Waluigi. Huh.

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ZFS
10/07/11 3:25:00 PM
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I went Fox over Yuna and Luigi over Cecil. Golbez is a lot better than Waluigi, but Luigi could probably beat all three of these guys by himself.

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XIII_rocks
10/07/11 3:26:00 PM
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Red/Blue going to the semi-finals imho.

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transience
10/07/11 3:26:00 PM
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(1) Samus vs. Ridley
(8) The Kid vs. The Guy

(4) Terra vs. Kefka
(5) Vyse vs. Galcian

Vyse! Kefka! Terra! I feel like it's 2005 all over again.

It'd be cool if The Kid could have a nice showing here, but otherwise there's not much to talk about. Terra vs. Kefka is a crap "rivalry" -- at least make it Cyan or something -- but it beats a third tier RPG like SOA is at this point. Samus and Ridley slam them all.

(3) Chris Redfield vs. Wesker
(6) Dan vs. Sagat

(2) Tidus vs. Jecht
(7) Big Boss vs. The Boss

why is Dan vs. Sagat in this contest. it should be Gen vs. Akuma!

The Bosses vs. Tidus/Jecht is a good match. I'll back Big Boss -- better picture, stronger than Tidus. Tidus/Jecht is a fair rivalry that may get some votes but they'll never have a moment like Big Boss and Boss had.

(1) Samus vs. Ridley
(7) Big Boss vs. The Boss

I wish this were Solid and Liquid. I would take the upset in a heartbeat. Samus/Ridley are not that strong.

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:27:00 PM
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Well, I will say that as probably the biggest Luigi fan on this board, I would vote literally every other entrant in this contest over that one!

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transience
10/07/11 3:27:00 PM
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I would take Luigi and Speck of Dust over Cecil and Golbez. Alas, this is Waluigi!

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ZFS
10/07/11 3:28:00 PM
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Chose Dan vs. Sagat because it's literally Dan vs. Sagat tbqh

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edwardsdv
10/07/11 3:28:00 PM
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I went with Red because does anyone think the match pic for them WONT include Charizard and Blastoise?

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KanzarisKelshen
10/07/11 3:30:00 PM
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From: edwardsdv | #027
I went with Red because does anyone think the match pic for them WONT include Charizard and Blastoise?


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Suddenly I really, really want to pull the trigger on Red/Blue>Mario/Bowser

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dragon22391
10/07/11 3:30:00 PM
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Kamekguy posted...
Vivi beat Altair and DK with similar numbers, right?

How much do you want to bet DKCR boosted the ape compared to people actually knowing how to pronounce Ezio's name from recent exposure?


Key difference: People like Ezio. Altair is just kinda there and a cool assassin dude.

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:30:00 PM
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I actually like Waluigi these days. He's become such a joke that he's looped around and become funny.

But Luigi vs. Waluigi? Is that even a thing? Have they even shared a non-Sports/Party game together?

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transience
10/07/11 3:31:00 PM
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(1) Link vs. Ganondorf
(8) Arthas vs. Illidan

(4) Amaterasu vs. Orochi
(5) Tom Nook vs. Crazy Redd

(3) Zidane vs. Kuja
(6) Meat Boy vs. Dr. Fetus

(2) Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily
(7) Banjo vs. Gruntilda

I have nothing to say about this division.

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SuperAngelo128
10/07/11 3:31:00 PM
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the biggest Luigi and Waluigi have gone have had a stare down in the opening movie in Mario Tennis 64

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ZFS
10/07/11 3:31:00 PM
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Amaterasu getting to win a match is always good news

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transience
10/07/11 3:31:00 PM
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you could include every Pokemon in the world in that pic and I'd probably still pick Ryu and Ken.

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-LusterSoldier-
10/07/11 3:32:00 PM
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X and not Mega Man X, huh? Interesting. Guybrush and LeChuck vs. Bartz and Gilgamesh -- this is what we're reduced to in this contest! This seems like an easy pick -- Final Fantasy vs. Guybrush Threepwood -- but I could see the Monkey Island duo pulling off some magic. X and Zero slam the competition.

I'm sure X will be listed as "Mega Man X" in the actual poll for his match. I remember in the last contest, "Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal" was listed under a shorter name in the actual bracket, but the full name was used in the poll for its match.

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10/07/11 3:34:00 PM
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From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2011 6:22:09 PM | #015
(4) Luigi vs. Waluigi
(5) Cecil vs. Golbez


finally a match I can disagree!

neither Cecil or Golbez, or any FF4 character for that matter is close enough to Luigi's popularity, and I really don't think bad pairs are going to hinder popular characters all that much. Can a strong rivalry greatly help? I believe so, which is why I picked Sub-Zero over Leon, but I really don't think a bad pairing will be a big hiinderance.

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transience
10/07/11 3:35:00 PM
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(1) Phoenix Wright vs. Edgeworth
(8) Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen

(4) Alucard vs. Dracula
(5) Shepard vs. Saren

Phoenix Wright is a 1 seed. Miles Edgeworth is a 1 seed.

I'll back 'em over Gordon even if I shouldn't. Alucard/Shepard is a pretty good match -- I think Shepard would beat Alucard these days -- but this is ME1 and not ME2 and Alucard/Dracula has classic written all over it.

(3) Chell vs. GlaDOS
(6) Ness vs. Giygas

(2) Frog vs. Magus
(7) Raiden vs. Vamp

Chell and Glados are so hard to peg. With a good picture, they probably beat the Earthbound dudes. With a bad one, they're toast. Ness is the safe pick but I'll back the Portalers, especially after Portal 2. Frog and Magus are a much better rivalry than Raiden and Vamp and that's that.

(4) Alucard vs. Dracula
(2) Frog vs. Magus

Strongly considering Dracula to take this division. I guess I should support Chrono Trigger here but.. man, I don't know. 50/50 for me right here. I know everyone else takes Frog easily, right?

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:36:00 PM
#38:


Me and HM discussed Alucard/Frog in the Stats topic. We came to this conclusion.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3731

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ZFS
10/07/11 3:36:00 PM
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I took Frog there originally, but then I saw this -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3731

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FateStayAlbion
10/07/11 3:38:00 PM
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2520

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transience
10/07/11 3:38:00 PM
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(1) Cloud vs. Sephiroth

(4) Kratos vs. Zeus
(5) Layton vs. Don Paolo

(3) Crash vs. Neo Cortex
(6) Pac-Man vs. Blinky

(2) Solid Snake vs. Liquid Snake
(7) Crono vs. Lavos

Wow, this division pisses me off. The Snakes vs. Crono in round 1? Bad rivalry with Lavos or not, that ain't right. And then you've got a great entrant in Solid/Liquid -- in my mind the fourth strongest in the contest -- fed to Cloud/Sephiroth. Lame. I could see Solid and Liquid scaring Cloud/Seph here and making people laugh about the upcoming Link/Ganon match.

who nominated Pac-Man vs. Blinky and why do I have it winning a match

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ZFS
10/07/11 3:39:00 PM
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Crash 4 life -- Naughty Dog classix.

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dragon22391
10/07/11 3:39:00 PM
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I've got Alucard/Dracula over Frog/Magus - the rivalry is good, but I dunno, I just can't bring myself to pick Frog or Magus in a close match. And Alucard/Dracula is a good rivalry. Father/son with opposing ideologies stemming from the same incident. Also we've never seen Dracula in a contest match he clearly would have taken the villains contest with ease tbqh

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transience
10/07/11 3:39:00 PM
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yeah, I was thinking about that match (Alucard/Magus). I actually have that in the bracket I made quick but just switched.

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:40:00 PM
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Yeah, so far we differ on a grand total of 3 matches. This contest had better surprise us.

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ZFS
10/07/11 3:40:00 PM
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I like the Frog/Magus rivalry more, but I didn't realize how weak the CT crew has become lately. Pretty rough.

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10/07/11 3:43:00 PM
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(1) Squall vs. Seifer
(8) Laharl vs. Mid-Boss

(4) Siegfried vs. Nightmare
(5) Ramza vs. Delita

Ramza feels like the right pick but I dunno, he's so dated at this point. I'll go with the SC guys. Squall is miles stronger than the rest.

(3) Dante vs. Vergil
(6) Sol Badguy vs. Ky Kiske

(2) Sora vs. Riku
(7) B.J. Blazkowicz vs. Adolf

ADOLF. Dante vs. Sora is a close match but I refuse to back Dante in a debatable match ever again. He's screwed me over too many times.

(1) Squall vs. Seifer
(2) Sora vs. Riku

These guys get matched up too much. Sora/Riku feels like a better rivalry than the FF8 dweebs, but I can't see KH beating a main FF duo. I think taking Sora, Dante or Squall to take the division are all fair picks.

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ZFS
10/07/11 3:44:00 PM
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Went with Ramza, but otherwise the same. Dante over Sora would be great, but Riku should be a lot more popular than Vergil. Sux.

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KamikazePotato
10/07/11 3:45:00 PM
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Ramza/Nightmare is probably the most debatable match in that division.

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transience
10/07/11 3:49:00 PM
#50:


Mario vs. Bowser
X vs. Zero

Samus vs. Ridley
Ryu vs. Ken

I kinda wanted to go with Ryu over Samus but I can't pull the trigger. I'm not HM. Mario/Samus mark III or IV, great. I can't wait.

Link vs. Ganondorf
Alucard vs. Dracula

Cloud vs. Sephiroth
Squall vs. Seifer

See, I still have Alucard in my bracket. FF7/FF8 will be a slaughterfest yet again and Link/Ganon crushes the other division. It's incredible that so many so-so pairings make it to the final 8. I think Cloud/Seph has a great shot at Link/Ganon but Skyward Sword and Link game over etc etc. It's the safe pick, anyway.

Mario vs. Bowser
Link vs. Ganondorf

Hey, 2002. Mario gets a boost due to his iconic history but still can't touch Link. Shame this isn't Sonic.

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