Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: GANON1025 RST vs. Vriska Serketi [MPFC]

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The Rules:

-Matches will last exactly 24 hours. Votes after that much time has elapsed will not be counted, even if a new topic hasn't gone up yet.
-This is a contest to determine which character is the most *powerful*. Vote only for the character you think would win in a fight, not the one who's funnier, cooler, or sexier. If you don't do that I can't count your vote.
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-Rallying is allowed. Alts are not.
-Fights will take place in a neutral terrain. This does not necessarily mean a *featureless* terrain: assume that both characters will have a chance to use all of their skills to the fullest here, barring setting-specific abilities and anything that requires the presence of multiple enemies (but see below).
-Characters start the fight alone. They don't bring allies with them, like Kerrigan and the Zerg Swarm for instance. Summons are allowed though, provided they're brought once combat has started.
-Fighters retain their usual personalities. They won't fight to kill unless that's their MO, and won't spam their best attacks to win unless, again, that's how they act in their original media.
-Similarly, fighters are unaware of their opponents capabilities at the start of the fight unless their powers facilitate them information (like knowing all there is to know in the universe - this would include who the opponent is and what he can do, as well as weaknesses)
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Past Results:

Most voters would have loved to see the clash between Zero and the General Tor play out. Unfortunately, MPFC isn't quite capable of providing broadcasts of the matches yet, but who knows, maybe someday! In the meantime, the Reploid Hero comes back from a large deficit to win, and will face The Host in Round 2. Votals: 10-6.

(3) GANON1025
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From Board 8's Random Spell Tournament, GANON1025 is a powerful spellcaster, armed with a wide array of strange spells. His spells are Call Drunken Priest, Incantation of Conjure Barbs, Dexterity Deflection, Crafter's Blast of Earth, Unknowable Hex of Fortification and Viciousness, Rains of Force and the Elemental Sun of Nothing. This last spell's power has been described as everything between a powerful archaic spell able to rend any planet near it to a literal sun of nothing - that is, a spell that has no effect! Like all of GANON's other spells, its effects vary wildly depending on his matchup (though they always keep in line with their names), to the point voter discretion and consideration is advised when determining their usefulness.

Host's Note: As a fictional character and not the poster of the same name, RST GANON has no metafictional knowledge beyond those granted by his abilities. He comes into all battles unaware of the opponents he shall face, though he does know that he is involved in a gauntlet of deadly battles.

vs.

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(6) Vriska Serket

From Homestuck, Vriska Serket is a canny, scrappy and resourceful anti-heroine. A member of the troll race, she is six solar sweeps of age (or 13 years old by human standards), but nonetheless equipped with a dazzling array of abilities. She is the Thief of Light, a player in the game of SBURB who ascended to the God Tiers, providing her with the ability to steal all of someone's luck. This has the effect of causing everything that could possibly go wrong to happen, such as a perfectly stable piece of ground crumbling beneath her opponent's feet. She is also capable of mind-controlling those without heavy protection from psychic attacks, and her weapon of choice is the Fluorite Octet, a set of eight eight-sided dice, which grant her access to more than sixteen million different attacks of increasing power. Most powerful among them is the Ancestral Awakening, which causes her to don the garb of her ancestor, the Marquise Spinneret Mindfang, and gives her enough power to fight a planet-destroying, universe-threatening foe to a standstill.


Note to the poster GANON1025: Due to issues of bias, I cannot count your vote on this match. You are, however, perfectly free to argue to your heart's content.

Note to everybody, while I'm at it: GANON's last spell is missing, as he never got to pick the spell he got from defeating his final opponent. If anyone can provide his opponent's list within an hour that'd be appreciated. Otherwise he will be allowed to pick one spell of his choice from a list of seven rolled by me.

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I have a picture of my RST self right here:

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You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me.

That out of the way, a lot of people want me to win this match but I just don't see how. I have no protection from psychic powers, and I'm physically much weaker than Jack Noir.

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And finally getting to the actual match...this is a toughie, because GANON is a huge ???? factor, but Vriska has a massive bag of tricks. GANON has no showings of psychic resistance, so mindcontrolling him to win looks like a legit strategy to me, and stealing his luck could have the terrible effect of making all his spells, which vary in effect on each matchup, perform at their weakest values, not to mention the possibility of dying to a frozen turkey airdropped from nowhere. Vriska has a bunch of deadly opening moves at her disposal that can win this as soon as the match starts. Will have to think about this.

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Clearly Vriska's bad luck ability causes Ganon's random spell to go to the Do Nothing result, making him lose

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Vriska

I was typing Ganon but everything that could go wrong and I typo'd the entire vote into his opponents name. What bad luck for him!

<_<

Okay with that luck business and mind control I think she wins anyway

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Vriska has the advantage in every way, I didn't think of her using luck to make my spells into the "do nothing" kind but that makes a lot of sense.

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List of backup spells for your viewing pleasure, assuming BMX or somebody else doesn't step up for the save:

Bolt of Slime and Evasion
Ceremony of Wounding
Chant of Repair Vestments
Constructors' Intelligence
Control Romance
Glorious Smiting
Envenomed Moon of Voidness < GANON's pick

If the hour passes without anyone chiming in EMoV will be added to the writeup.

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perhaps unknowable hex could help against the luck steal (is that a move style thing or is it just an aura of her being near you and luck hax)

<shrug>

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From: Pirateking2000 | #010
perhaps unknowable hex could help against the luck steal (is that a move style thing or is it just an aura of her being near you and luck hax)

<shrug>

From: KanzarisKelshen | #001

Like all of GANON's other spells, its effects vary wildly depending on his matchup (though they always keep in line with their names), to the point voter discretion and consideration is advised when determining their usefulness.

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GANON1025
Although arguably, all of his spells are up for interpretation, he has canonically won a tournament of spellcasters almost entirely on the strength of Sun of Nothing, with the prevailing interpretation being that the spell was an annihilating sphere with the power of a sun. Even if I didn't think that spell was relatively fixed in what it does, I don't buy the power of luck stealing shifting the spell to a different user interpretation of it. Vriska looks like she easily stomps Ganon if this fight actually lasts, but he can oneshot her with Sun of Nothing and from what I remember, opening with Elemental Sun of Nothing was pretty much his only strategy.

That is true that I would most likely immediately start by using the Sun of Nothing, even with no knowledge of who Vriska I probably wouldn't hesitate or anything. I guess it all comes down to how you view that spell.

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Uknowable Hex of Fortification and Viciousness is not only capable of protecting GANON from harmful effects actively attempted on him, but actually reversing it on the opponent too. What's more, it's content sensitive and functions independent of GANON's own knowledge or even any mind reading or omniscience, due to the uknowable part.

Summon Drunken Priest can also let that priest pre-exorcise him of any outside control, or intoxicate him so that no one can control him, even himself.

Dexterity Dodge also is pretty broken, it's pretty much a free dodge roll based on his dexterity against any effect, with none of the attack's accuracy even counted against it.

And of course, he has all his other stuff made for camping out a spot and making reaching him so hard, and if he gets Elemental Sun of Nothing off, he almost instant wins.

Best chance you have against GANON is being literally invincible against magic and killing people without attacking them.

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I guess I'll go into what I think the powers are:

Call Drunken Priest - This summons a drunken priest, obviously. But I consider this to be of the "battle-mage/healer" kind of priest and not a regular religious man. So he'd have a variety of buffs and heals and such.

Incantation of Conjure Barbs- I see this as vines with barbs on them (like bramble) coming out of the ground to either hold a person or create some bad terrain/trap

Dexterity Deflection- Dodge an attack, and send its effects back at the opponent

Crafter's Blast of Earth- "Blast of Earth" refers to obviously shooting out earth, I see as being able to take any ground around me and using it as a projectile. "Crafter's" allows me to shape the earth into any kind of shape that I want before I shoot it out.

Unknowable Hex of Fortification and Viciousness - I guess what KJH said, actually. A buffing move that is independent of my knowledge, but while helpful to me is harmful to the opponent in some way

Rains of Force- Basically shoot out a rain of vague magic that has a heavy heft or gravity to it, if that makes any sense

Elemental Sun of Nothing - Obviously, I see this as a huge and intensely powerful magic attack with the potential force of a black hole

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Also this is canon IMO. (ganon's, not mine)



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Vriska. Both of these characters seem to be very powerful, but yeah, the fact that Ganon's most powerful spell has a random aspect to it definitely favors Vriska's luck-stealing abilities.

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GANON1025

He may have not been able to beat Jesus Christ but I'm pretty sure he can beat some vampire chick

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I'm just going to use my canon interpretation of GANON1025 for this match



and I can't imagine this dude losing to anything

GANON1025

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no misuzu you are the princess

nothin' random about the anti-matter sun spell.
and ganon. between his protections, magic, and fact is he's a fantastic spellcaster. here's a guy who was in a tournament of mages where ALL of them learned their opponent's spells by simply fighting them once. they could do incredibly different things, some useless some useful, and some with black hole suns like ganon.

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TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Vriska. Both of these characters seem to be very powerful, but yeah, the fact that Ganon's most powerful spell has a random aspect to it definitely favors Vriska's luck-stealing abilities.

Well that's the thing, his spells don't have a random aspect of it, they're just based on user interpretation. So although that means his spells could have multiple effects, it's not like he doesn't know what's going to happen before he casts it. And like I said, he won the spellcaster tournament with it, so it'd be hard to interpret it as doing nothing at the very least.

That's true, one of my feats is winning the entire BST with that spell, so if you think the sun of nothing isn't good you would have to compensate my win with that as well. Maybe luck would have no bearing on my spells anyway, the power of them don't change in-canon it's just how you perceive them to be.

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GANON

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Vriska is immortal unless she dies a "heroic" or "just" death. There is nothing GANON can do to beat her.

She can also just mind control GANON to kill himself.

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maybe, lol

GANON1025 is immune to mind control, though.

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From: saveus_Maria | #026
GANON1025 is immune to mind control, though.

No showings of immunity. Hexes have always been attacks on everything ever so I don't buy the Hex doing much. Maybe the drunken priest can do something, but summons usually take time to function and the priest is a lesser caster in any case. Considering Vriska is pretty damn speedy while in Ancestral Awakening mode, if she mind controls GANON she has time to land a killing blow with ease, if he doesn't kill himself.

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Vriska is immortal unless she dies a "heroic" or "just" death.

are you dumb, an idiot if you will?

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Gonna take a moment here to advertise the fact that once this MPFC ends, I'm holding signups for the next Random Spell Tournament.

Also, Tor shouldn't have lost that one >_>

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I clearly remember picturing him as being immune to mind control when I voted for him in the Random Spell Elimination Tournament. He's the same character here, right???

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no misuzu you are the princess

Vriska literally mind controlled someone else to mind control an omnipotent dog, so I think she could pull it off.

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maybe, lol

Gonna take a moment here to advertise the fact that once this MPFC ends, I'm holding signups for the next Random Spell Tournament.


awww yeah

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Vriska was literally killed by a blind girl

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From: GANON1025 | #029
Vriska is immortal unless she dies a "heroic" or "just" death.

are you dumb, an idiot if you will?

This is actually on the money. God Tier regeneration is fast. John gets up quick enough to give Rose a corpsesmooch, which is quick enough that ringouts wouldn't happen.

From: saveus_Maria | #031
I clearly remember picturing him as being immune to mind control when I voted for him in the Random Spell Elimination Tournament. He's the same character here, right???

If you can substantiate why that was the case, sure. Did he face opponents with mind control before?

(we really need that RST bracket to check stuff)


On another note, GANON has access to the Envenom Moon of Voidness now.

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From: GANON1025 | #034
Vriska was literally killed by a blind girl

With her God Clock disabled. Doesn't really count.

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Well, then, if knocking her out can't count as a win then there is no reason for this match to even take place since I cannot actually kill her.

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so he has a moon of voidness to go with his elemental sun of nothing.

sun and moon.
void and nothing.

it's even more powerful than before.

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From: GANON1025 | #037
Well, then, if knocking her out can't count as a win then there is no reason for this match to even take place since I cannot actually kill her.

Mind control, ringouts, etc. are still viable ways to win. And of course, if you can restrain her so she can't actually harm you that works too.

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Well we were allowed to envision the matches any way we wanted for that tournament so I made Ganny and all the other competitors immune to mind control so it wouldn't interfere with the results of the matches -- That being the random sets of spells going up against each other. I also set all of them at the same speed (mach 8 billion) and gave them the same strength and endurance as The Hulk, that way all of the matches would be totally fair.

This all carries over for Ganny, right??

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no misuzu you are the princess

Vriska's strongest showing, her only showing of her best form against Jack, was in an alternate universe that should barely even count

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From: Wanglicious | #038
so he has a moon of voidness to go with his elemental sun of nothing.

sun and moon.
void and nothing.

it's even more powerful than before.

The grand prize of the second RST has to be the Endless Stars of Nether, IMO.

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you have a sun of anti-matter that can be empowered further by a moon of empty void, ganon. how do you feel?

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Anyone know where I could textdump my RST stuff? I have the bracket/matches saved. And the spells his final opponent had were

-Royal Sigil of the Studious Undertakers
-Arrow of Spectral Ooze
-Lances of Holy Lava
-Unholy Acid Field
-Invocation of Summon Perfect Snakes
-The Glass of Force
-Clubs of Lightning

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From: saveus_Maria | #040
Well we were allowed to envision the matches any way we wanted for that tournament so I made Ganny and all the other competitors immune to mind control so it wouldn't interfere with the results of the matches -- That being the random sets of spells going up against each other. I also set all of them at the same speed (mach 8 billion) and gave them the same strength and endurance as The Hulk, that way all of the matches would be totally fair.

This all carries over for Ganny, right??

'citation needed'

(in other words, let's not make stuff up outside of the writeups. GANON is perfectly capable of winning this on his actual abilities alone IMO)

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Envenom Moon of Voidness

too STRONG


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Also, can Vriska actually mindcontrol humans? I thought she could just knock them out, which would more or less result in the same thing I guess.

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From: JeffreyRaze | #044
Anyone know where I could textdump my RST stuff? I have the bracket/matches saved. And the spells his final opponent had were

-Royal Sigil of the Studious Undertakers
-Arrow of Spectral Ooze
-Lances of Holy Lava
-Unholy Acid Field
-Invocation of Summon Perfect Snakes
-The Glass of Force
-Clubs of Lightning

http://privatepaste.com/

Since you're here now BMX, care to chime in on whether GANON should receive one of those spells or the Envenomed Moon instead? Since you were the host of RST it makes the most sense for you to make the call. Call it contest seniority.

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too STRONG



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Uh... I guess he should use a spell from the bracket.

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