Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: GANON1025 RST vs. Vriska Serketi [MPFC]

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GANON1025 09/22/11 7:34:00 PM #101:	What I'm saying is, I'm so used to beat opponent -> get power, that if I kill Vriska but don't get anything I would have the wherewithal to know I haven't won and she's not properly incapacitated. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:369289] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> What I'm saying is, I'm so used to beat opponent -> get power, that if I kill Vriska but don't get anything I would have the wherewithal to know I haven't won and she's not properly incapacitated. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 09/22/11 7:57:00 PM #102:	*Wanglicious posted...* clearly you will learn ALL her spells once she's incapacitated. each time you blast her it's a new win. by the time you leave this fight you can do everything she can, but better. Oh God, This is totally canon for this contest when Ganon wins. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:369290] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Wanglicious posted...clearly you will learn ALL her spells once she's incapacitated. each time you blast her it's a new win. by the time you leave this fight you can do everything she can, but better.Oh God, This is totally canon for this contest when Ganon wins. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackMetalex 09/22/11 7:59:00 PM #103:	I think the Sun of Nothing is going to annhilate Vriska's body, and so unless she can revive from nothingness, I think Ganon has this. <cite>BlackMetalex posted [p:369291] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> I think the Sun of Nothing is going to annhilate Vriska's body, and so unless she can revive from nothingness, I think Ganon has this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 8:12:00 PM #104:	From: edwardsdv \| #102 *Wanglicious posted...* clearly you will learn ALL her spells once she's incapacitated. each time you blast her it's a new win. by the time you leave this fight you can do everything she can, but better. Oh God, This is totally canon for this contest when Ganon wins. Cherrypicking is considered poor form when debating. If the idea is that Vriska can regen, she wins eventually, because she can keep it up for eternity and GANON only needs to make one mistake to lose. If by contrast, she dies to the sun, GANON gets one ability. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369292] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: edwardsdv \| #102Wanglicious posted...clearly you will learn ALL her spells once she's incapacitated. each time you blast her it's a new win. by the time you leave this fight you can do everything she can, but better.Oh God, This is totally canon for this contest when Ganon wins.Cherrypicking is considered poor form when debating. If the idea is that Vriska can regen, she wins eventually, because she can keep it up for eternity and GANON only needs to make one mistake to lose. If by contrast, she dies to the sun, GANON gets one ability. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
todbot1 09/22/11 8:13:00 PM #105:	GANON -- [02:00] <red13n> ermines hard drive is one giant folder maze [02:01] <Altimadark> And Windows is the Minotaur <cite>todbot1 posted [p:369293] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> GANON -- [02:00] <red13n> ermines hard drive is one giant folder maze[02:01] <Altimadark> And Windows is the Minotaur </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SemiFinal vs Belarus 09/22/11 8:16:00 PM #106:	From: KanzarisKelshen \| #104 Cherrypicking is considered poor form when debating. If the idea is that Vriska can regen, she wins eventually, because she can keep it up for eternity and GANON only needs to make one mistake to lose. If by contrast, she dies to the sun, GANON gets one ability. He doesn't need to keep it up for an eternity. He needs to keep it up until someone hits a clock. >_> -- "Oh God, maplejet's trying to be cool again. I'll call the ambulance." - Wylvane <cite>SemiFinal vs Belarus posted [p:369294] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: KanzarisKelshen \| #104Cherrypicking is considered poor form when debating. If the idea is that Vriska can regen, she wins eventually, because she can keep it up for eternity and GANON only needs to make one mistake to lose. If by contrast, she dies to the sun, GANON gets one ability.He doesn't need to keep it up for an eternity. He needs to keep it up until someone hits a clock. >_> -- "Oh God, maplejet's trying to be cool again. I'll call the ambulance." - Wylvane </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 09/22/11 8:17:00 PM #107:	I don't make mistakes. I make widows. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:369295] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> I don't make mistakes. I make widows. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 8:18:00 PM #108:	From: SemiFinal vs Belarus \| #106 He doesn't need to keep it up for an eternity. He needs to keep it up until someone hits a clock. >_> Which is the same thing I'm saying with a different stipulation. If Vriska goes down to one Sun GANON gets one spell. If she has unlimited regen it stands to reason she wins because she has an infinite amount of lives to try and beat him. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369296] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: SemiFinal vs Belarus \| #106He doesn't need to keep it up for an eternity. He needs to keep it up until someone hits a clock. >_>Which is the same thing I'm saying with a different stipulation. If Vriska goes down to one Sun GANON gets one spell. If she has unlimited regen it stands to reason she wins because she has an infinite amount of lives to try and beat him. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dragon22391 09/22/11 8:18:00 PM #109:	GANON1025 -- I'm too tired to drive anywhere, anyway, right now, do you care if I praise Black Turtle? Call me numbers. <cite>dragon22391 posted [p:369297] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> GANON1025 -- I'm too tired to drive anywhere, anyway, right now, do you care if I praise Black Turtle?Call me numbers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 09/22/11 8:20:00 PM #110:	GANON If the idea is that Vriska can regen, she wins eventually, because she can keep it up for eternity and GANON only needs to make one mistake to lose. Historically speaking, this is not how the MPFCs have treated regen. You can have perfect regeneration with no chance of ever dying, but if your opponent can keep blasting you so that you're locked in a state of formless red sludge, you lose via incapacitation. Sort of like winning by pinning your opponent or through a ring-out; if they can't continue the fight within a reasonable time frame, whoops, sucks for them. -- "The courtroom is the garden of holy judgment. Those with lechery in their hearts should leave this sanctuary at once!" ~Franziska von Karma <cite>Kenri posted [p:369298] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> GANONIf the idea is that Vriska can regen, she wins eventually, because she can keep it up for eternity and GANON only needs to make one mistake to lose.Historically speaking, this is not how the MPFCs have treated regen. You can have perfect regeneration with no chance of ever dying, but if your opponent can keep blasting you so that you're locked in a state of formless red sludge, you lose via incapacitation. Sort of like winning by pinning your opponent or through a ring-out; if they can't continue the fight within a reasonable time frame, whoops, sucks for them. -- "The courtroom is the garden of holy judgment. Those with lechery in their hearts should leave this sanctuary at once!" ~Franziska von Karma </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/22/11 8:23:00 PM #111:	do you really want to drag out a battle against a literal god of luck for all eternity? the law of averages is simply not in GANON's favor if the fight goes on that long. <_< -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gif http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:369299] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> do you really want to drag out a battle against a literal god of luck for all eternity?the law of averages is simply not in GANON's favor if the fight goes on that long. <_< -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gifhttp://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SemiFinal vs Belarus 09/22/11 8:28:00 PM #112:	Didn't you know? LUCK DO3SNT 4CTU4LLY M4TT3R >8] -- "Oh God, maplejet's trying to be cool again. I'll call the ambulance." - Wylvane <cite>SemiFinal vs Belarus posted [p:369300] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Didn't you know?LUCK DO3SNT 4CTU4LLY M4TT3R >8] -- "Oh God, maplejet's trying to be cool again. I'll call the ambulance." - Wylvane </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 09/22/11 8:31:00 PM #113:	If I kill Vriska once, use Crafter's Earth to bury her in a mile-deep hole and close it up, could she get out? -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:369301] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> If I kill Vriska once, use Crafter's Earth to bury her in a mile-deep hole and close it up, could she get out? -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 09/22/11 8:33:00 PM #114:	Man, I think people are pretty seriously underestimating the scale Homestuck is working on. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:369302] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Man, I think people are pretty seriously underestimating the scale Homestuck is working on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viktor Vaughn 09/22/11 8:34:00 PM #115:	if vriska has all the luck then somehow equius appears and ganon is completely enamored giving vriska plenty of time to kill him -- bad advice http://img.imgcake.com/viktorpnges.png <cite>Viktor Vaughn posted [p:369303] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> if vriska has all the luck then somehow equius appears and ganon is completely enamored giving vriska plenty of time to kill him -- bad advicehttp://img.imgcake.com/viktorpnges.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 8:34:00 PM #116:	From: GANON1025 \| #113 If I kill Vriska once, use Crafter's Earth to bury her in a mile-deep hole and close it up, could she get out? Probably. She has planetbusting power at a minimum, and inconclusively could be universe-busting strong. From: Paratroopa1 \| #114 Man, I think people are pretty seriously underestimating the scale Homestuck is working on. Or using the fact that GANON has undefined parameters. GANON is effectively a toonforce character. Toonforces are technically not banned so it's allowed. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369304] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: GANON1025 \| #113If I kill Vriska once, use Crafter's Earth to bury her in a mile-deep hole and close it up, could she get out?Probably. She has planetbusting power at a minimum, and inconclusively could be universe-busting strong.From: Paratroopa1 \| #114Man, I think people are pretty seriously underestimating the scale Homestuck is working on.Or using the fact that GANON has undefined parameters. GANON is effectively a toonforce character. Toonforces are technically not banned so it's allowed. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 8:35:00 PM #117:	From: Viktor Vaughn \| #115 if vriska has all the luck then somehow equius appears and ganon is completely enamored giving vriska plenty of time to kill him ...This This is the best thing -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369305] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: Viktor Vaughn \| #115if vriska has all the luck then somehow equius appears and ganon is completely enamored giving vriska plenty of time to kill him...ThisThis is the best thing -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/22/11 8:36:00 PM #118:	From: GANON1025 \| #113 If I kill Vriska once, use Crafter's Earth to bury her in a mile-deep hole and close it up, could she get out? If she's powered up from AA, then yeah. If she's not powered up, then she could as long as she had enough room to roll her dice. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gif http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:369306] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: GANON1025 \| #113If I kill Vriska once, use Crafter's Earth to bury her in a mile-deep hole and close it up, could she get out?If she's powered up from AA, then yeah.If she's not powered up, then she could as long as she had enough room to roll her dice. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gifhttp://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 09/22/11 8:42:00 PM #119:	Well, the fact remains that even if we for some ungodly reason give her the time she needs to revive (which I still can't wrap my mind around, though it makes NoN Lelouch that much stronger so) I have more than enough time to restrict or incapacitate her in some way. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:369307] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Well, the fact remains that even if we for some ungodly reason give her the time she needs to revive (which I still can't wrap my mind around, though it makes NoN Lelouch that much stronger so) I have more than enough time to restrict or incapacitate her in some way. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/22/11 8:42:00 PM #120:	well, you craft the earth and fill it with a field of unholy acid. not really fun, that. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:369308] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> well, you craft the earth and fill it with a field of unholy acid. not really fun, that. -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/22/11 8:43:00 PM #121:	if there's an ungodly reason then you're in luck since that's what your acid field is! -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:369309] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> if there's an ungodly reason then you're in luck since that's what your acid field is! -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 09/22/11 8:43:00 PM #122:	Right, burying her a mile deep was just one idea, there's much more I could do. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:369310] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Right, burying her a mile deep was just one idea, there's much more I could do. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 09/22/11 8:43:00 PM #123:	that's not funny -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:369311] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> that's not funny -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/22/11 8:47:00 PM #124:	well, you can make miles deep craters with your elemental sun of nothing. and then fill it with a field of acid. only to blow it all up again. it'll be fun! -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:369312] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> well, you can make miles deep craters with your elemental sun of nothing.and then fill it with a field of acid.only to blow it all up again.it'll be fun! -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saveus_Maria 09/22/11 10:08:00 PM #125:	so if he chucked her body into an acid field to prevent her from regenerating would he win right away or would he have to wait like 1,000 years for every single molecule of her body to finally be broken down -- no misuzu you are the princess <cite>saveus_Maria posted [p:369313] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> so if he chucked her body into an acid field to prevent her from regenerating would he win right away or would he have to wait like 1,000 years for every single molecule of her body to finally be broken down -- no misuzu you are the princess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drakeryn 09/22/11 10:48:00 PM #126:	#112 \| SemiFinal vs Belarus \| Posted 9/22/2011 10:28:16 PM \| message detail \| quote Didn't you know? LUCK DO3SNT 4CTU4LLY M4TT3R >8] Well I'm sold. GANON (Also what Semi said earlier about incapacitation counting as a loss and just death.) -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high <cite>Drakeryn posted [p:369314] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> #112 \| SemiFinal vs Belarus \| Posted 9/22/2011 10:28:16 PM \| message detail \| quoteDidn't you know?LUCK DO3SNT 4CTU4LLY M4TT3R >8]Well I'm sold.GANON(Also what Semi said earlier about incapacitation counting as a loss and just death.) -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drakeryn 09/22/11 11:04:00 PM #127:	okay wang is pointing out that he made the incapacitation argument before semi did so he gets the credit -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high <cite>Drakeryn posted [p:369315] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> okay wang is pointing out that he made the incapacitation argument before semi did so he gets the credit -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/22/11 11:05:00 PM #128:	hmph. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:369316] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> hmph. -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin_Crossing 09/22/11 11:07:00 PM #129:	GANON -- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK <cite>Justin_Crossing posted [p:369317] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> GANON -- ~Acting on Impulse~Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pram_the_Oracle 09/22/11 11:09:00 PM #130:	I can see Ganon's spells killing Vriska long enough to count as an incapacitation... but I don't know what he'd do against mind controlling though. Hex of Fortification and Viciousness, might increase his mental defense (as well as physical defense) through the roof... but then he becomes berserked. The Drunk Priest could probably release Ganon from the control, if Ganon lucks out and the Priest casts the right spell in his drunken state. But then again, Vriska steals all the luck. Although apparently luck doesn't matter, so... Wait, which spell does Ganon get from his final match again? Oh, Unholy Acid Field. I forgot, how much time does it take for Vriska to control someone's mind, and to what degree can it be resisted? -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! <cite>Pram_the_Oracle posted [p:369318] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> I can see Ganon's spells killing Vriska long enough to count as an incapacitation... but I don't know what he'd do against mind controlling though. Hex of Fortification and Viciousness, might increase his mental defense (as well as physical defense) through the roof... but then he becomes berserked. The Drunk Priest could probably release Ganon from the control, if Ganon lucks out and the Priest casts the right spell in his drunken state. But then again, Vriska steals all the luck. Although apparently luck doesn't matter, so...Wait, which spell does Ganon get from his final match again? Oh, Unholy Acid Field.I forgot, how much time does it take for Vriska to control someone's mind, and to what degree can it be resisted? -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge!NEXT TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 11:12:00 PM #131:	From: Pram_the_Oracle \| #130 I can see Ganon's spells killing Vriska long enough to count as an incapacitation... but I don't know what he'd do against mind controlling though. Hex of Fortification and Viciousness, might increase his mental defense (as well as physical defense) through the roof... but then he becomes berserked. The Drunk Priest could probably release Ganon from the control, if Ganon lucks out and the Priest casts the right spell in his drunken state. But then again, Vriska steals all the luck. Although apparently luck doesn't matter, so... Wait, which spell does Ganon get from his final match again? Oh, Unholy Acid Field. I forgot, how much time does it take for Vriska to control someone's mind, and to what degree can it be resisted? Pretty much instant, and it can be fully resisted...if you have psi defenses. If you don't, you're a slave. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369319] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: Pram_the_Oracle \| #130I can see Ganon's spells killing Vriska long enough to count as an incapacitation... but I don't know what he'd do against mind controlling though. Hex of Fortification and Viciousness, might increase his mental defense (as well as physical defense) through the roof... but then he becomes berserked. The Drunk Priest could probably release Ganon from the control, if Ganon lucks out and the Priest casts the right spell in his drunken state. But then again, Vriska steals all the luck. Although apparently luck doesn't matter, so...Wait, which spell does Ganon get from his final match again? Oh, Unholy Acid Field.I forgot, how much time does it take for Vriska to control someone's mind, and to what degree can it be resisted?Pretty much instant, and it can be fully resisted...if you have psi defenses. If you don't, you're a slave. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emporer_Kazbar 09/22/11 11:14:00 PM #132:	From: JeffreyRaze \| #030 Gonna take a moment here to advertise the fact that once this MPFC ends, I'm holding signups for the next Random Spell Tournament. This made reading through this thread worth it. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) http://www.sporcle.com/games/Kazbar/gfaqscontest <cite>Emporer_Kazbar posted [p:369320] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: JeffreyRaze \| #030Gonna take a moment here to advertise the fact that once this MPFC ends, I'm holding signups for the next Random Spell Tournament.This made reading through this thread worth it. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09)http://www.sporcle.com/games/Kazbar/gfaqscontest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pram_the_Oracle 09/22/11 11:17:00 PM #133:	Ehh, Vriska then, so long as she opens with that ASAP. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! <cite>Pram_the_Oracle posted [p:369321] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Ehh, Vriska then, so long as she opens with that ASAP. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge!NEXT TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperAngelo128 09/22/11 11:18:00 PM #134:	From: saveus_Maria \| #020 I'm just going to use my canon interpretation of GANON1025 for this match and I can't imagine this dude losing to anything GANON1025 incredible -- Want to listen to more video game music every day? Check out the VGMusicoftheDay Youtube Channel sometime! <cite>SuperAngelo128 posted [p:369322] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: saveus_Maria \| #020I'm just going to use my canon interpretation of GANON1025 for this matchand I can't imagine this dude losing to anythingGANON1025incredible -- Want to listen to more video game music every day?Check out the VGMusicoftheDay Youtube Channel sometime! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 11:19:00 PM #135:	That's pretty much why I voted Vriska myself, too. GANON beating mind control hinges on too many 'ifs'. He has to outspeed Vriska by a ton to cast Summon Drunken Priest, Hex of Fortification, etc. etc. You have to give him heavy speedblitz abilities to win, while Vriska just has to lift a hand to her head and that is that. The power of the Sun of Nothing does...well, nothing if it never gets cast. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369323] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> That's pretty much why I voted Vriska myself, too. GANON beating mind control hinges on too many 'ifs'. He has to outspeed Vriska by a ton to cast Summon Drunken Priest, Hex of Fortification, etc. etc. You have to give him heavy speedblitz abilities to win, while Vriska just has to lift a hand to her head and that is that. The power of the Sun of Nothing does...well, nothing if it never gets cast. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pram_the_Oracle 09/22/11 11:21:00 PM #136:	Hey, I know that manga! Hellstar Remina, IIRC. Oh, wait, I know how Ganon can win! The Host shenanigans :P -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! <cite>Pram_the_Oracle posted [p:369324] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Hey, I know that manga! Hellstar Remina, IIRC.Oh, wait, I know how Ganon can win! The Host shenanigans :P -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge!NEXT TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/22/11 11:33:00 PM #137:	pfft, a champion spellcaster in a league of his own like that not having mental defenses would make no sense. especially when it's ganon. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:369325] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> pfft, a champion spellcaster in a league of his own like that not having mental defenses would make no sense. especially when it's ganon. -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pram_the_Oracle 09/22/11 11:34:00 PM #138:	He does have it. It's just that the defense also causes Berserk. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! <cite>Pram_the_Oracle posted [p:369326] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> He does have it. It's just that the defense also causes Berserk. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge!NEXT TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 09/22/11 11:35:00 PM #139:	Vriska based on mind control hax. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:369327] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Vriska based on mind control hax. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/22/11 11:35:00 PM #140:	he can make manga too? -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:369328] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> he can make manga too? -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 11:39:00 PM #141:	From: Wanglicious \| #137 pfft, a champion spellcaster in a league of his own like that not having mental defenses would make no sense. especially when it's ganon. GANON is supposed to be the savior of MPFC. Turning him into Darsh + Urza is becoming the enemy. At that point you might as well just hand in a "vote for Darsh, Nagato, Sarda, The Host at all oppotunities, priority goes (insert priority here)" form and step outside. To paraphrase a famous speech, how much will you stomp your ideals to uphold them, Wang? GANON winning is more fun if he wins fairly, not on the basis of "yeah, he can cast 300 billion spells per second, has infinite mana, comes with four Spell Engines and two Contingencies layered to activate a loop of Suns of Nothing, and never loses because we bribed the organizer to contrive a way to make him advance". His vagueness should be an accessory skill, not what makes him win. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369329] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: Wanglicious \| #137pfft, a champion spellcaster in a league of his own like that not having mental defenses would make no sense. especially when it's ganon.GANON is supposed to be the savior of MPFC. Turning him into Darsh + Urza is becoming the enemy. At that point you might as well just hand in a "vote for Darsh, Nagato, Sarda, The Host at all oppotunities, priority goes (insert priority here)" form and step outside. To paraphrase a famous speech, how much will you stomp your ideals to uphold them, Wang? GANON winning is more fun if he wins fairly, not on the basis of "yeah, he can cast 300 billion spells per second, has infinite mana, comes with four Spell Engines and two Contingencies layered to activate a loop of Suns of Nothing, and never loses because we bribed the organizer to contrive a way to make him advance". His vagueness should be an accessory skill, not what makes him win. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/22/11 11:41:00 PM #142:	not sure what any of that had to do with what i said, but hey. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:369330] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> not sure what any of that had to do with what i said, but hey. -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saveus_Maria 09/22/11 11:48:00 PM #143:	From: Pram_the_Oracle \| #136 Hey, I know that manga! Hellstar Remina, IIRC. Oh, wait, I know how Ganon can win! The Host shenanigans :P that scan is definitely from GANON1025: The Manga -- no misuzu you are the princess <cite>saveus_Maria posted [p:369331] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: Pram_the_Oracle \| #136Hey, I know that manga! Hellstar Remina, IIRC.Oh, wait, I know how Ganon can win! The Host shenanigans :Pthat scan is definitely from GANON1025: The Manga -- no misuzu you are the princess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 11:48:00 PM #144:	From: Wanglicious \| #142 not sure what any of that had to do with what i said, but hey. Tacking more and more features onto RST GANON just destroys the point of having him in the contest. He's awesome and cool because he has a fun gimmick, he's a b8 poster we can relate to, and he has a chance for a deep run. If you take advantage of his toonforce clause to say "oh yeah this wouldn't work because he has all the hax and then some", the joke isn't funny anymore, same as the Host would make the whole contest obsolete if I had written a story of him deciding to be serious forevermore in preparation for the contest just to make sure he won. There's no point in voting for GANON if he's suddenly Urza 2.0. We already have one ridiculous spellcaster troll in the bracket. Do you understand now? -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369332] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: Wanglicious \| #142not sure what any of that had to do with what i said, but hey.Tacking more and more features onto RST GANON just destroys the point of having him in the contest. He's awesome and cool because he has a fun gimmick, he's a b8 poster we can relate to, and he has a chance for a deep run. If you take advantage of his toonforce clause to say "oh yeah this wouldn't work because he has all the hax and then some", the joke isn't funny anymore, same as the Host would make the whole contest obsolete if I had written a story of him deciding to be serious forevermore in preparation for the contest just to make sure he won. There's no point in voting for GANON if he's suddenly Urza 2.0. We already have one ridiculous spellcaster troll in the bracket. Do you understand now? -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drakeryn 09/22/11 11:50:00 PM #145:	We already have one ridiculous spellcaster troll in the bracket. and she's losing to ganon lolol -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high <cite>Drakeryn posted [p:369333] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> We already have one ridiculous spellcaster troll in the bracket.and she's losing to ganon lolol -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 11:51:00 PM #146:	From: Drakeryn \| #145 We already have one ridiculous spellcaster troll in the bracket. and she's losing to ganon lolol Vriska isn't a spellcaster, she's a gish. Big difference! /nitpick -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369334] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: Drakeryn \| #145We already have one ridiculous spellcaster troll in the bracket.and she's losing to ganon lololVriska isn't a spellcaster, she's a gish. Big difference! /nitpick -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/22/11 11:53:00 PM #147:	....which is all well and good, 'cept it's pretty standard for good spellcasters to have good mental defenses too. see most mages having high m. def for more details on a billion rpgs. if you don't see him naturally carrying that for some reason, that's on you. me? he's a top tier mage from the contest. don't see how he wouldn't. how you go from a standard aspect among mages to whatever crap you wrote there, i've no idea. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:369335] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> ....which is all well and good, 'cept it's pretty standard for good spellcasters to have good mental defenses too. see most mages having high m. def for more details on a billion rpgs. if you don't see him naturally carrying that for some reason, that's on you. me? he's a top tier mage from the contest. don't see how he wouldn't. how you go from a standard aspect among mages to whatever crap you wrote there, i've no idea. -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 09/22/11 11:55:00 PM #148:	Depends on the mage. See Harry Potter, where it was a plot point that only certain wizards were good at blocking out mental attacks, no matter how strong they were otherwise -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:369336] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Depends on the mage. See Harry Potter, where it was a plot point that only certain wizards were good at blocking out mental attacks, no matter how strong they were otherwise -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pram_the_Oracle 09/22/11 11:56:00 PM #149:	Plenty of Mages get Charmed/Confused. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! <cite>Pram_the_Oracle posted [p:369337] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> Plenty of Mages get Charmed/Confused. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge!NEXT TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 11:57:00 PM #150:	From: Wanglicious \| #147 ....which is all well and good, 'cept it's pretty standard for good spellcasters to have good mental defenses too. see most mages having high m. def for more details on a billion rpgs. if you don't see him naturally carrying that for some reason, that's on you. me? he's a top tier mage from the contest. don't see how he wouldn't. how you go from a standard aspect among mages to whatever crap you wrote there, i've no idea. Most mages are squishy. They don't have good defenses and instead rely on magic to get by, that is kind of their schtick. Even the ones who aren't frail as hell tend to not be anything special on the defensive front, like Gandalf. Furthermore, psionics resistance is just plain rare anywhere you look at it, excluding other psi users. Go ahead and deny it, but for every example you could bring up I can turn up three counterexamples. You're slapping extras on GANON to justify your vote and that is just lame. Stick to your guns man. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:369338] in Most Power... [t:60406744]...</cite> <quote> From: Wanglicious \| #147....which is all well and good, 'cept it's pretty standard for good spellcasters to have good mental defenses too. see most mages having high m. def for more details on a billion rpgs. if you don't see him naturally carrying that for some reason, that's on you. me? he's a top tier mage from the contest. don't see how he wouldn't. how you go from a standard aspect among mages to whatever crap you wrote there, i've no idea.Most mages are squishy. They don't have good defenses and instead rely on magic to get by, that is kind of their schtick. Even the ones who aren't frail as hell tend to not be anything special on the defensive front, like Gandalf. Furthermore, psionics resistance is just plain rare anywhere you look at it, excluding other psi users. Go ahead and deny it, but for every example you could bring up I can turn up three counterexamples. You're slapping extras on GANON to justify your vote and that is just lame. Stick to your guns man. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: GANON1025 RST vs. Vriska Serketi [MPFC] (+) Yeah! (+)

Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: GANON1025 RST vs. Vriska Serketi [MPFC]