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SHINE GET 64
09/02/11 7:45:00 AM
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http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/forza-motorsport-4/achievement/56931-Look-Ma--No-Controller-.html

Kinect-only achievement in a game primarily meant to be used with a controller

UNFORGIVABLE

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agesboy
09/02/11 7:48:00 AM
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I hate achievements and trophies that require you spend more money

hence why I'll never try for a platinum, 'lol'

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PrivateBiscuit1
09/02/11 7:49:00 AM
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Not Xbox's fault. Blame the developer.

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Diet Water
09/02/11 7:53:00 AM
#4:


Achievements was such a annoying idea.

Ever since Sony ripped it off and now I have to watch Trophy data load.

Wish I could turn that bull s*** off.

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GranzonEx
09/02/11 7:55:00 AM
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Just bring the game over to a friend that has it and log on with your account.
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SHINE GET 64
09/02/11 7:55:00 AM
#6:


mmm delicious trophies

can never have enough

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Twilight the Fox
09/02/11 7:59:00 AM
#7:


Man, I remember when I cared about achievements for 360 games.

s'more important to get the tf2 achievements ALL OF THEM

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Ultimaphazon
09/02/11 8:03:00 AM
#8:


Are people really getting angry over this?
So what if you can't get that achievement? You can still have fun with the game. Does that 1000/1000 really mean that much to people?

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SHINE GET 64
09/02/11 8:04:00 AM
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of course! Not satisfied with a game until I'm sure I've done everything possible, including filling every meter to 100%

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FreakinLincoln
09/02/11 8:04:00 AM
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Chieves are fun in a "La dee da, I'm playing this game oh cool I got an achievement!" kind of way. I don't understand people doing things they don't enjoy in games just so they can get more achievement points. I'm happy with my 2400-something!

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GranzonEx
09/02/11 8:05:00 AM
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I've only ever gotten 1000/1000 for one game, RE5. And that's only because it was easy as hell to get it.
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beavis666x2
09/02/11 8:13:00 AM
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From: GranzonEx | #011
I've only ever gotten 1000/1000 for one game, RE5. And that's only because it was easy as hell to get it.


1000/1400

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paperwarior
09/02/11 8:23:00 AM
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Man that's lame. Worse than the "Become the very best player of this highly skilled game in the entire world" achievements.

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VincentLauw
09/02/11 8:52:00 AM
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From: FreakinLincoln | #010
Chieves are fun in a "La dee da, I'm playing this game oh cool I got an achievement!" kind of way. I don't understand people doing things they don't enjoy in games just so they can get more achievement points. I'm happy with my 2400-something!


This man speaks the truth.

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Bigwig_rah
09/02/11 8:53:00 AM
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And it's only 5G? Wow that is the worst.

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SpikeDragon
09/02/11 8:57:00 AM
#16:


I don't care about achievements anyway. I think I've only gotten more than half the achievement points for a game once.

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The Real Truth
09/02/11 9:08:00 AM
#17:


I cared about achievements for a couple months before laughing at myself and realizing how stupid they were and trying to figure out what the hell I was doing.

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GANON1025
09/02/11 9:09:00 AM
#18:


Why are doing achievements any worse than anything else you do in a game?

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ExThaNemesis
09/02/11 9:17:00 AM
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man I'll never understand why people rage about achievements.

you could just like, not care?

blah blah completionists, I'm not to blame for you having OCD.

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SatonakaChie
09/02/11 9:30:00 AM
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From: FreakinLincoln | #010
Chieves are fun in a "La dee da, I'm playing this game oh cool I got an achievement!" kind of way. I don't understand people doing things they don't enjoy in games just so they can get more achievement points. I'm happy with my 2400-something!


I guess there are some people who actually buy games they don't care about just to get more points, but I don't see what's wrong with people trying to do everything in a game and getting rewarded for that. I mean I don't know how the 360 handles this but on the PS3 you would miss out on the platinum showing that you did everything, just because you don't have kinect, sounds pretty lame to me.

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tyder21
09/02/11 9:35:00 AM
#21:


I'm addicted to getting achievements.

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whatisurnameplz
09/02/11 9:38:00 AM
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Like some other people here I don't really care about achievements. I just try to complete the game itself and find every last secret.

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LeonhartFour
09/02/11 9:43:00 AM
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I like Trophies, personally. They're neat, and it gives you an extra sense of satisfaction when you do something and don't even realize you were getting a trophy for it. That being said, I've still never Platinumed a game because I'm not going to do something I don't want to do for that Platinum trophy.

But I don't get why people get upset about it. If you don't care about Trophies, it doesn't affect your enjoyment of the game at all because trophies are completely supplemental.

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SunnyX
09/02/11 9:43:00 AM
#24:


achievements are pretty cool, they're usually the things that incentivize me to play on higher difficulties or try different playing styles on my first playthrough

also poooooooooints

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Vlado
09/02/11 9:52:00 AM
#25:


agesboy posted...
I hate achievements and trophies that require you spend more money

hence why I'll never try for a platinum, 'lol'


Resident Evil 5 only requires the game for the Platinum, no DLC necessary whatsoever!

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thundersheep
09/02/11 10:32:00 AM
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I don't really care about achievements/trophies because they aren't indicative of skill... but I do care a ton about rankings. I mean I haven't even looked at the list of achievements for SSF4, but I won't be satisfied until I'm at least in the top 50 in the world for my character in terms of BP.

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pjbasis
09/02/11 10:54:00 AM
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ITT people hate trophies because they can't get them
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WazzupGenius00
09/02/11 10:57:00 AM
#28:


From: thundersheep | #026
I don't really care about achievements/trophies because they aren't indicative of skill...


Um, yes they are?

Sure there are dumb ones like "do the same action 1000 times" but there are plenty that require a high level of skill

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hyrulelsl
09/02/11 11:10:00 AM
#29:


I hate achievements.

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transience
09/02/11 11:57:00 AM
#30:


they're really not. they're much more indicative of time than skill.

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agesboy
09/02/11 2:45:00 PM
#31:


man I'll never understand why people rage about achievements.

you could just like, not care?

blah blah completionists, I'm not to blame for you having OCD.


nah, I don't rage, I just think it's a lolworthy business tactic to say "No platinum for you unless you give us more money :D"

so I just don't give them my money and cease to care about getting a plat for that game

and this is almost every game I own, so.... s***

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Vlado
09/02/11 2:49:00 PM
#32:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
From: thundersheep | #026
I don't really care about achievements/trophies because they aren't indicative of skill...
Um, yes they are?

Sure there are dumb ones like "do the same action 1000 times" but there are plenty that require a high level of skill


Most aren't (well, most are bronze), but some are, yeah.

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Sorozone
09/02/11 2:51:00 PM
#33:


From: agesboy | #031
nah, I don't rage, I just think it's a lolworthy business tactic to say "No platinum for you unless you give us more money :D"


I'm pretty sure no game requires you to buy DLC for platinum. It only affects the percentage, so you'll have like 80% complete opposed to it being at 100%. You will still have the Platinum trophy though.
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thundersheep
09/02/11 2:52:00 PM
#34:


From: Vlado | #032
Most aren't (well, most are bronze), but some are, yeah.


That's the thing. There are only a couple "skill" achievements in every game. If you were getting all of those and ignoring the ones that required multiple playthroughs or hours of fetching, you'd still end up with a mediocre gamerscore/trophy level.

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SHINE GET 64
09/02/11 3:01:00 PM
#35:


Can I request Gamefaqs Achivements for posting on gamefaqs

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LeonhartFour
09/02/11 3:04:00 PM
#36:


From: SHINE GET 64 | #035
Can I request Gamefaqs Achivements for posting on gamefaqs


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1-the-future-of-gamefaqs/56656251

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MarvelousGerbil
09/02/11 3:05:00 PM
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That is really dumb, but since it's for a dumb game I don't really care. At one point I cared about achievements, but then I realized how many achievements require online play. I will never 100% Beautiful Katamari just because of a couple stupid online achievements and the fact that nobody gives a damn about online Katamari.

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paperwarior
09/02/11 3:07:00 PM
#38:


ITT people hate trophies because they can't get them

I only hate this trophy because I can't get it without buying a $150 peripheral.

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_Yonex_
09/02/11 3:08:00 PM
#39:


Did someone really just call them chieves?

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LeonhartFour
09/02/11 3:08:00 PM
#40:


From: _Yonex_ | #039
Did someone really just call them chieves?


This is almost as bad as all these commercials starting to call a vacation a "vay-kay."

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Icehawk
09/02/11 3:31:00 PM
#41:


I always call achievements "cheevos"... "chieves" though is too far!

side note, this isn't as big of a deal on the Xbox. If they did this with the move on the PS3, where that bronze trophy stops you from getting a plat, which is a whole lot of extra EXP, that would be kind of annoying. With this, you lose out on 5 points.

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foolmor0n
09/02/11 3:34:00 PM
#42:


I call them achieves

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OmarsComin
09/02/11 4:07:00 PM
#43:


I dislike achievements because they pop up on my screen for 5 seconds and block a small portion of my vision

then later I look at what it was and am like "oh that was dumb, shouldn't have bothered looking!"
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SHINE GET 64
09/02/11 4:18:00 PM
#44:


cheevos sound so spanish

nothx

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SubDeity
09/02/11 4:20:00 PM
#45:


LOL achievement whores.

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FateStayAlbion
09/02/11 4:20:00 PM
#46:


Ultimaphazon posted...
Are people really getting angry over this?
So what if you can't get that achievement? You can still have fun with the game. Does that 1000/1000 really mean that much to people?


Quite a few people would be upset if they had like 990/1000, and it was impossible to get without dishing out a lot of money. Its just a completionist thing. People would be upset if you had to dish out extra money to get that final star in a Mario game, too.

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ZFS
09/02/11 4:21:00 PM
#47:


OmarsComin posted...
I dislike achievements because they pop up on my screen for 5 seconds and block a small portion of my vision

then later I look at what it was and am like "oh that was dumb, shouldn't have bothered looking!"


You can turn them off, I believe. It's in the settings somewhere.

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SHINE GET 64
09/02/11 4:22:00 PM
#48:


I'm quite upset I can't get the platinum in Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 because the only trophy I have left is the gold for completing all the multiplayer co-op missions

but no one plays online and they're so hard that you really need someone good as your partner to stand a chance anyway

multiplayer trophies make me so sad

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FateStayAlbion
09/02/11 4:22:00 PM
#49:


And to the people saying they don't take skill... some do. I've played quite a few games that have achievements for beating the game on max difficulty, or beating it without dying, that kinda stuff. That takes skill.

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transience
09/02/11 4:38:00 PM
#50:


yeah, there are some. but they're mostly in stuff like arcade games and they ironically have less achievements despite them being the ones most suited for the practice.

but 'max out every skill' or 'find every secret' -- these aren't skillful

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