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Highwind89
07/25/11 8:12:00 PM
#1:


He's back!!!

Also, that was a pretty good raw.
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Coffee Ninja
07/25/11 8:12:00 PM
#2:


tag

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X_Dante_X
07/25/11 8:13:00 PM
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was just about to make this topic

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voltch
07/25/11 8:14:00 PM
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expected more of this



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vcharon
07/25/11 8:14:00 PM
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I think this is just going to end up disappointing everyone when people find out Punk only signed on through Summerslam so he and Cena can "unify" the titles, with Cena winning this time.

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voltch
07/25/11 8:15:00 PM
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they ain't messed up the core angle in like a month, so yay!

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Highwind89
07/25/11 8:15:00 PM
#7:


Also, if cult of personality is staying, may This Fire Burns RIP.

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Wanglicious
07/25/11 8:16:00 PM
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punk is going through his main theme songs in reverse.

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voltch
07/25/11 8:17:00 PM
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comes out at mania with Miseria while DB has his mania match to The final countdown.

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sonten1
07/25/11 8:18:00 PM
#10:


Totally marked out as soon as CoP started playing.

Also did anyone else call Zack Ryder being Cole's mystery opponent (aka another markout moment)

Also Miseria Cantare at some point please?

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Haguile
07/25/11 8:19:00 PM
#11:


Zack Ryder beating Cole:


Zack Ryder beating Cole
JR is back
Punk's moment

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FFDragon
07/25/11 8:19:00 PM
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I don't know how I feel about this.

I will let it ride for now though.

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Majin Lou
07/25/11 8:21:00 PM
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sonten1
07/25/11 8:22:00 PM
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I just realized that this could totally happen at the end of Wrestlemania 28:

WWE Champ: CM Punk
World Heavyweight Champ: Daniel Bryan
Tag Champs: KoW

with outside shots going to Evan Bourne for U.S. Champ and a rehired Colt Cabana for IC

...I think I'm going to rewatch my old ROH shows!

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RaidenZeroX
07/25/11 8:24:00 PM
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tag

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MartinFF7
07/25/11 8:25:00 PM
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From: vcharon | #005
I think this is just going to end up disappointing everyone when people find out Punk only signed on through Summerslam so he and Cena can "unify" the titles, with Cena winning this time.


That

That is depressing

However, it'll result in stopping my watching Raw again which could be for the best!
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voltch
07/25/11 8:25:00 PM
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themes of champions!

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GTM
07/25/11 8:27:00 PM
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"Woo Woo Woo I'm on Raw!"

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Uglyface2
07/25/11 8:29:00 PM
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Should've let the CM Punk thing simmer until Summerslam. This is a little too soon.
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TimJab
07/25/11 8:30:00 PM
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i'll be watching raw when i get home from chicago, but can somebody summarize what happened? is rey or cena champ?

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Haguile
07/25/11 8:32:00 PM
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From: sonten1 | #014
I just realized that this could totally happen at the end of Wrestlemania 28:

WWE Champ: CM Punk
World Heavyweight Champ: Daniel Bryan
Tag Champs: KoW

with outside shots going to Evan Bourne for U.S. Champ and a rehired Colt Cabana for IC

...I think I'm going to rewatch my old ROH shows!


Make Ryder the US champ instead and the internet would go crazy
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voltch
07/25/11 8:37:00 PM
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Then HHH rounds up all the champs together....and squashes em all.

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Wanglicious
07/25/11 8:43:00 PM
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i believe i stated exactly that last week to numbers!

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GTM
07/25/11 8:44:00 PM
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I'd rather give bourne the US Champ and sanction the Internet Champion

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XIII_rocks
07/25/11 8:46:00 PM
#25:


Uglyface2 posted...
Should've let the CM Punk thing simmer until Summerslam. This is a little too soon.

I agree, but I'm willing to let this go. We get Punk back and he's at the very top of the company right now.

The worst thing they can do here is have Cena beat Punk clean. The whole angle has been so good, so far beyond what you usually expect, that it HAS to have some sort of lasting effect. Have Cena beat Punk and things continue as normal, back to square one? ...It might happen, unfortunately.

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Haguile
07/25/11 8:48:00 PM
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Punk's contract is running out for reals at Summerslam though, isn't it?
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XIII_rocks
07/25/11 8:52:00 PM
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Man, I hope he doesn't legit leave. Take a couple of months off, maybe, but the man has the potential right now to be at the very top of the company for a good while.

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Wanglicious
07/25/11 8:52:00 PM
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yeah, the real contract ends midway September IIRC.
unless he resigned/resigns. which is entirely probable at this point because they're not letting him go.

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voltch
07/25/11 8:53:00 PM
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Yet to prove he's Jeff Hardy money levels yet though.

Though that kind of level seems really hard to attain anyway.

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Lopen
07/25/11 8:55:00 PM
#30:


Huh. I expected a lot more people to be disappointed in that development.

Me, I think the storyline could've used a little simmering. Punk coming back on WWE TV in a week is almost as bad as the Cena getting fired angle last year. Punk should've been off TV for at least a month. I get it, I get it, they wanna hype this at Summerslam-- but why not just put it off till the next PPV and have Punk return at Summerslam?

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Wanglicious
07/25/11 8:56:00 PM
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well, if his shirt can sell on ebay for $500, i'm pretty sure he can make a ton of money for the company and become their No. 1 in sales real quick. <_<;

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XIII_rocks
07/25/11 9:00:00 PM
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Lopen posted...
Huh. I expected a lot more people to be disappointed in that development.

Me, I think the storyline could've used a little simmering. Punk coming back on WWE TV in a week is almost as bad as the Cena getting fired angle last year. Punk should've been off TV for at least a month. I get it, I get it, they wanna hype this at Summerslam-- but why not just put it off till the next PPV and have Punk return at Summerslam?


Eh, they could have gone about it better, but I see why they brought him back so soon. They're scared of the angle losing momentum, and maybe even scared of the interest in Punk cooling.

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ZaziGuado
07/25/11 9:03:00 PM
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If they allowed Punk to keep his free reign to go anywhere he wants with the title, interest would'nt have cooled down. In this social media age, it's really easy to keep tabs on somebody. All Punk would need to do is be his smartass self on that, commenting on the state of the WWE from time to time, and then a month later he can come back.

I'm glad he's back, but it should've been a bigger deal.

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voltch
07/25/11 9:06:00 PM
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For smarks i think they were very happy to hear that theme,

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Wanglicious
07/25/11 9:07:00 PM
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they're doing other stuff that's pretty major. Cena might be changing, but needs to be pushed more to do so (which needs Punk). the Vince-HHH thing started with Punk, and HHH can't just be a goof week in week out as that gets stale, especially after a shakeup like that - you need something major under his belt that's different from Vince (which needs Punk). the two belts issue begins here too - Punk has the true belt, Cena does not. does this mean neither Cena nor Rey were champions? were they temporary champions? but if you keep the belt going for a while it starts to establish some credibility for itself; none exists here. the belt came out tonight and upon crowning the champ and having him face the last reigning champ before it was taken away.... the real one comes out. no credibility to the new belt as it literally lasts 1 night. at the center of all the WWE changes, it's Punk. while he can be red hot with the media, there's little better than doing it by also making sure he's there to keep him at the forefront of all problems or even all potential problems. if you want more exposure, he's gotta be with a live mic on TV. and considering all he basically did was give everyone blue balls with an "Im baaack" kind of return, with nothing else really done, it's clear that next week is his real return.

to start the show.

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Lopen
07/25/11 9:08:00 PM
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Eh. I'm just reminded of the old WCW-- Sting left for over a year, well over. He made cameo appearances, but the mystery really boiled. I was hoping for something like that with Punk, where it kept being a mystery what his status was-- maybe he comes to the show as a member of the audience, or something. But in general he's kept off TV and only mentioned as "that guy we can't mention" for a while.

Honestly I think they screwed this storyline up right when they announced a title tournament so quickly. Just kinda belittled the impact of losing the belt. They had a great chance to redeem it tonight... I was really hoping that Cena would win the title and throw it in the trash, or something. That would've been amazing.

All I wanted was like a month. Barely even got a week. Oh well.

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Coffee Ninja
07/25/11 9:08:00 PM
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From: sonten1 | #014
I just realized that this could totally happen at the end of Wrestlemania 28:

WWE Champ: CM Punk
World Heavyweight Champ: Daniel Bryan
Tag Champs: KoW

with outside shots going to Evan Bourne for U.S. Champ and a rehired Colt Cabana for IC

...I think I'm going to rewatch my old ROH shows!




Seth Rollins could also fill in if Cabana is not resigned!

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Wanglicious
07/25/11 9:12:00 PM
#38:


people are fickle. in this social media age you absolutely need to be on top of it and can't just 'let it simmer' for much because everyone can have tabs on everyone. there's too much information about everything out there that if you aren't actively running a ball then you lose it.

he wasn't there last week and proved it, giving some disbelief. this week he returns to basically showcase that he'll be there next week.

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voltch
07/25/11 9:14:00 PM
#39:


You don't want Punk to have Charlie Sheen run of glory followed by nobody mentioning him at all!

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Wanglicious
07/25/11 9:19:00 PM
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pretty much a perfect example there! sheen was all over the news everywhere for 2 weeks, then people stopped, moved on to other things, and this was a clinically insane hollywood star who decided he should literally lives with a pair of whores. he tried to get some of it back but couldn't. simply put, no creativity, magic, or consistency to work with.

Punks' got all that and no doubt could revive something... but why take a chance like that when you can make all of it continue off of where it left off relatively fresh from the break?

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FFDragon
07/25/11 9:21:00 PM
#41:


Steen's doing quite nice with the simmering angle tbqh.

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07/25/11 9:22:00 PM
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Achromatic
07/25/11 9:22:00 PM
#43:


I heard Cult of Personality and I was like "no way" haha, awesome song for him right now.

I think it was fine, honestly. I like more cm punk

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07/25/11 9:23:00 PM
#44:


steen also doesn't work for a company that produces 6 hours of new material each week.


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Lopen
07/25/11 9:23:00 PM
#45:


From: Wanglicious | #038
people are fickle. in this social media age you absolutely need to be on top of it and can't just 'let it simmer' for much because everyone can have tabs on everyone. there's too much information about everything out there that if you aren't actively running a ball then you lose it.

he wasn't there last week and proved it, giving some disbelief. this week he returns to basically showcase that he'll be there next week.


Eh, I think you're overestimating the power of social media these days. You can still keep secrets-- you just gotta work harder for it, and integrate the media into your secrets. I mean I don't seem to recall anyone in here being able to bullseye when he was going to come back, or anything like that. You just keep making Punk make appearances and stuff and it'd work out fine. One month isn't long to ask-- that's like 4-6 shows or something, and they were already down one.

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FFDragon
07/25/11 9:24:00 PM
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Which you'd think would make it harder for him.

And you can't use SD, NXT, and Superstars against Punk. He has nothing to do with that.

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SmartMuffin
07/25/11 9:26:00 PM
#47:


I'm a little disappointed that nobody popped for Cult of Personality.

I sure as hell marked out!

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Wanglicious
07/25/11 9:28:00 PM
#48:


Steen also has the benefit of a dedicated and MUCH smaller base to work with, because everyone who watches Evolve also watch ROH and know what's going on. PWG's further away but even then, you're working with indie fans, so that's not a hard thing to accomplish. effectively he's working a smaller group of people, a much more dedicated group of people, and still hasnt' been doing this for too long either!

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07/25/11 9:28:00 PM
#49:


I blame every WWE employee for NXT.


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voltch
07/25/11 9:28:00 PM
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Well Punk is also the company champ, while Sting wasn't at the time of his run.

The title might mean that much to the WWE.

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