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Haguile
07/29/11 11:03:00 PM
#451:


"Why would he get in the ring with Mark Henry?"
"Because it's Sheamus, that's why."

I still think that was the best exchange Cole and Booker had since...ever.
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ShatteredElysium
07/30/11 2:31:00 AM
#452:


Mark Henry likes putting people through tables and using chairs. Sheamus likes putting people threw taybles, ladders and pretty much anything he can.

TLC match! Ok, well Henry in a TLC match would be horrible but a Taybles match or some sort of Street Fite! / No DQ would work.

Then Sheamus can go on and feud with Christian afterwards. Providing Christian is acttually still alive after Orton at Summerslam.


Speaking of which. I hope they do some sort of angle where all the people who Orton has been taking his rage out on come out and screw him over at Summerslam as payback. I mean Christian has to get some sort of help in that fight to not make it total annihilation. Actually, is there anyone our injured (or new) due to come back who could come in as Christian's bodyguard/enforcer type person to save him?

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DeathChicken
07/30/11 2:35:00 AM
#453:


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KJH
07/30/11 8:55:00 AM
#454:


Well, no disqualifications can work in Christian's favor too, given they really played up him losing in the straight fight a lot.

Though if they need outside interference, who knows. I could almost see Zack Ryder somewhere in it getting involved, what with him being assistant GM for Smackdown. Easy lead in to get in contact with him, since Zack's already established as having been an Edgehead while Christian's Edge's best friend, and Christian's gotta get someone with authority that isn't Triple H or Teddy Long to help him. That and their ECW matches were pretty awesome.

Only problem is, I dunno if they'll bother with associating Zack with Christian given by now, Zack's a face.

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lardpig
07/30/11 10:46:00 AM
#455:


From: ShatteredElysium | #452
Actually, is there anyone our injured (or new) due to come back who could come in as Christian's bodyguard/enforcer type person to save him?


Tomko: No.

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Haguile
07/30/11 7:35:00 PM
#456:




HE WHIPS HIS HAIR BACK AND FORTH!
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TimJab
07/30/11 10:36:00 PM
#457:


so finlay is in BOLA this year

and he's facing kevin steen round 1

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Wanglicious
07/30/11 10:38:00 PM
#458:


Steen is gonna die. Finlay doesn't hold back in his matches.

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TimJab
07/30/11 10:45:00 PM
#459:


i guess i was right about PWG beginning to die

BOLA is down to 8 guys this year (it was 24 at one point) and two of them are claudio and hero

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Wanglicious
07/30/11 11:08:00 PM
#460:


if it does that's a bit of a shame - it's cool having an entire region of the US to one main promotion. but when Gabe's running his stuff and ROH is being ROH, and Chikara's starting to grow (and thank god they moved to a venue in Manhattan for the next show)? you do dwindle down to a lot of guys. still sucks though, you'd think there would be plenty of guys on that side of the US that'd wrestle.

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TimJab
07/30/11 11:54:00 PM
#461:


are you familiar with the manhattan venue? i've never heard of it

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Wanglicious
07/31/11 12:03:00 AM
#462:


not at all, no. can't be worse than NJPW's selection of what looked like a semi-abandoned warehouse two down from the dumpster.

but it's in Manhattan, which is always a step up! probably houses more people too.

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TimJab
07/31/11 12:04:00 AM
#463:


haha njpw was in basketball city right?

i used to live in that neighborhood

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Viktor Vaughn
07/31/11 12:13:00 AM
#464:


hey maybe you don't want to click on this picture at your job or in front of human beings?????

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mister cena this is very inappropriate

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07/31/11 12:17:00 AM
#465:


CM Punk/Zack Ryder/Eve/Maryse and others are talking about Roast Beef Sandwiches and Beef Jerky on twitter

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Haguile
07/31/11 12:18:00 AM
#466:


what the hell. Did he tweet that?
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Viktor Vaughn
07/31/11 12:19:00 AM
#467:


Haguile posted...
what the hell. Did he tweet that?

according to reddit he did

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Haguile
07/31/11 12:20:00 AM
#468:


Acorrding to his twitter he did as well.

From: GTM | Posted: 7/31/2011 3:17:57 AM | #465
CM Punk/Zack Ryder/Eve/Maryse and others are talking about Roast Beef Sandwiches and Beef Jerky on twitter


BUT THIS IS MUCH MORE INTERESTING! TO TWITTER!
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the icon ownz all
07/31/11 12:21:00 AM
#469:


I'm disappointed that they aren't actually talking about Beef Jerky.


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07/31/11 12:24:00 AM
#470:


I just glanced through and saw bits and pieces, I don't follow them all. Sorry if the beef jerky was stopped after Maurice said it

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TimJab
07/31/11 12:25:00 AM
#471:


are they talking about mickie james?

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the icon ownz all
07/31/11 12:26:00 AM
#472:


No, I mean that the beef jerky he was talking about was actua-.. eh, nevermind.


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edwardsdv
07/31/11 12:26:00 AM
#473:


ZaziGuado posted...
I've been trying to decide in my head whether I felt Punk had come back too soon or not, but that video package pretty much let me decide that he came back at a good time. So damn good.

While I agree, that couldve easily been Summerslam and wouldve gone down as a damned memorable one.

It really is such a missed opportunity to make a lot more money off this angle, if not for footbll fear.

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TimJab
07/31/11 12:28:00 AM
#474:


From: the icon ownz all | #472
No, I mean that the beef jerky he was talking about was actua-.. eh, nevermind.


that's what i was getting at!

i was referring to roast beef though

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the icon ownz all
07/31/11 12:28:00 AM
#475:


From: edwardsdv | #473
It really is such a missed opportunity to make a lot more money off this angle, if not for footbll fear.


How are they losing money by bring back CM Punk before football returns so that they can put him on their third largest PPV?


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TimJab
07/31/11 12:30:00 AM
#476:


from what i'm gathering kelly kelly and the miz are also involved and it's all stemming from brie bella tweeting that arby's gave her diarrhea

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the icon ownz all
07/31/11 12:31:00 AM
#477:


From: TimJab | #475
that's what i was getting at!


I was talking to GTM!

This is a very confusing conversation!


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TimJab
07/31/11 12:31:00 AM
#478:


OH ****

http://twitter.com/#!/RealKellyKelly/status/97530225562365952

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TimJab
07/31/11 12:31:00 AM
#479:


From: the icon ownz all | #477
I was talking to GTM!

This is a very confusing conversation!


classic mixup!

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GTM
07/31/11 12:34:00 AM
#480:


Maurice was actually talking about beef jerky at the beginning >_>

It was CM Punk that threw that wrench

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edwardsdv
07/31/11 12:38:00 AM
#481:


the icon ownz all posted...
From: edwardsdv | #473
It really is such a missed opportunity to make a lot more money off this angle, if not for footbll fear.
How are they losing money by bring back CM Punk before football returns so that they can put him on their third largest PPV?


Well, I know Punk is the biggest thing running but youre telling me the finals of a title tournament, with new management and having it all sort of felt out DURING their 3rd biggest event wouldnt have been a draw. Plus the sheer anticipation of "Will Punk show up" would still be flying. Now we know, Punk will be there. Always.

It became just another angle last week, thats all.

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Haguile
07/31/11 12:59:00 AM
#482:




Warrior is insane and yet he still understands his time as a wrestler has long passed. That makes him more sane than Hogan. And TNA.
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Dauntless Hunter
07/31/11 2:53:00 AM
#483:


From: Viktor Vaughn | #464
hey maybe you don't want to click on this picture at your job or in front of human beings?????

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mister cena this is very inappropriate


oh god its weinergate all over again

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JaKyL25
07/31/11 7:20:00 AM
#484:


Well, I know Punk is the biggest thing running but youre telling me the finals of a title tournament, with new management and having it all sort of felt out DURING their 3rd biggest event wouldnt have been a draw. Plus the sheer anticipation of "Will Punk show up" would still be flying. Now we know, Punk will be there. Always.

We would have known it as of Summerslam anyways under this plan. If you're gonna use "Will Punk show up?" as a reason the PPV would sell, then you're pretty much assuring he will!

One reason they stopped doing King of the Ring as a PPV was that they believe people don't like paying for the unknown. They will watch the regular TV shows and see things develop and follow along, but when it comes time to lay the money down, they want to know what matches they're going to see.

Summerslam shouldn't be used for storyline development, it should be used for storyline conclusion. You want to use Raw to make people buy the PPV, not use the PPV to make people watch Raw.

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voltch
07/31/11 8:28:00 AM
#485:


ok, now commencing the first everr royal rumble (which wasn't on PPV but its the freaking rumble)

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SmartMuffin
07/31/11 8:37:00 AM
#486:


Now we know, Punk will be there. Always.

SOME OF US knew this as soon as the angle started <_<

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Wanglicious
07/31/11 8:43:00 AM
#487:


just saw SD.
best SD in a long time, and SD's consistently above average. especially love the Raw vid package, and an "about time" to them pulling what they did to Sheamus and Dragon. glad to see they're not ignoring the two very obviously good feuds that write themselves. hell i can't even say anything bad about Cody's new feud as it's perfect for where he needs to be.


edit: and the direction they've taken with Orton is honestly one of the better ones they could've done. guy was fairly stale (even more than usual) and his old 'anger management issues' were one of the few times when he was interesting in that brief feud with Vince. even that was done well. so 1 show set up a better setup for the championship feud, the IC, MITB, and gave a new babyface to deal with the monster. ....pretty awesome.

(and the video package was so good, especially as it makes Cena look kinda like an ass - going congrats to Rey and then fighting him later that night to win a belt that was wrong? to then be confronted by what was absolutely presented as the good guy?)

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edwardsdv
07/31/11 8:49:00 AM
#488:


JaKyL25 posted...
Well, I know Punk is the biggest thing running but youre telling me the finals of a title tournament, with new management and having it all sort of felt out DURING their 3rd biggest event wouldnt have been a draw. Plus the sheer anticipation of "Will Punk show up" would still be flying. Now we know, Punk will be there. Always.

We would have known it as of Summerslam anyways under this plan. If you're gonna use "Will Punk show up?" as a reason the PPV would sell, then you're pretty much assuring he will!

One reason they stopped doing King of the Ring as a PPV was that they believe people don't like paying for the unknown. They will watch the regular TV shows and see things develop and follow along, but when it comes time to lay the money down, they want to know what matches they're going to see.

Summerslam shouldn't be used for storyline development, it should be used for storyline conclusion. You want to use Raw to make people buy the PPV, not use the PPV to make people watch Raw.


in this scenario, you arent JUST selling punk, but the finals of a world title tournament which should have been a much bigger deal than it was ( seriously aside from the finals only truthrey went more than 5 minute, just one night after a title bout went much much longer, kayfabe its tough to dal with), AND if not that youre selling childrens icon rey vs childrens icon john cena, which probably would have sold well.

the punk under current would have been for us.

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voltch
07/31/11 9:06:00 AM
#489:


I'm guessing if there was one more PPV before SS, they would have done something different, but hey hot ticket in LA, gotta frontload it..

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ScareChan
07/31/11 2:26:00 PM
#490:


Yeah I saw the Cena pic last night and questioned what the heck was going on. He said he was going to take it down but got such good responses he just left it up. Not very PG but then again he isnt really showing anything but his V cut anyways

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Haguile
07/31/11 2:55:00 PM
#491:


Wonder if someone is going to flip out because of Cena's picture.
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SmartMuffin
07/31/11 3:54:00 PM
#492:


Not nearly as disturbing as shirtless Viscera, which they put on TV for a few months.

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JaKyL25
07/31/11 4:34:00 PM
#493:


chikarapro chikarapro
We return to South Philly on November 13th for our first ever IPPV! Go to www.chikarapro.com more info in the near future!


FINALLY!

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TimJab
07/31/11 4:39:00 PM
#494:


whoa

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Wanglicious
07/31/11 4:43:00 PM
#495:


...awesome. Chikara officially to become the 3rd biggest indie group confirmed (ROH - Dragon Gate - Chikara, Evolve and PWG probably make 4th and 5th, depends on how ippv stuff has worked for 'em, and i assume it's worked well for DGUSA)

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TimJab
07/31/11 4:45:00 PM
#496:


speaking of iPPV i still have to watch honor takes center stage

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JaKyL25
07/31/11 4:47:00 PM
#497:


Wanglicious posted...
...awesome. Chikara officially to become the 3rd biggest indie group confirmed (ROH - Dragon Gate - Chikara, Evolve and PWG probably make 4th and 5th, depends on how ippv stuff has worked for 'em, and i assume it's worked well for DGUSA)

PWG still hasn't done one or announced one, sadly.

With all the other major indies being Northeast/Midwest centric as far as cards go, you'd think they of all companies would be one that would embrace it so that those diehard indy fans in those areas can get a live taste of PWG.

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TimJab
07/31/11 4:48:00 PM
#498:


pwg will be dead by this time next year

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JaKyL25
07/31/11 4:48:00 PM
#499:


And to be honest, I hesistate to call ROH "indy" anymore, as they are now literally NOT independently owned, and will soon be on (semi-)national broadcast TV.

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TimJab
07/31/11 4:48:00 PM
#500:


raven sucks

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