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LeonhartFour
06/30/11 8:16:00 PM
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NCAA Games II week by week schedules (including past results):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdEtadTB0dEhmX3JxZkZfdzdhTHF6WGc&hl=en#gid=0

NCAA Games II Conference Breakdowns (including a quicker, faster look at individual games' opponents, wins, and losses):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdDhfenhraVlvNlk3VkUzb0tFalMtYUE&hl=en#gid=0

This week's top 25:

1. Chrono Trigger (1)
2. Super Mario 64 (2)
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (3)
4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (4)
5. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (6)
6. Super Mario Bros. 3 (7)
7. Resident Evil 4 (9)
8. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (5)
9. Super Mario World (8)
10. Super Metroid (10)
11. Paper Mario (14)
12. Super Smash Bros. Melee (13)
13. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (11)
14. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (15)
15. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (21)
16. Metal Gear Solid (19)
17. Final Fantasy X (16)
18. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (18)
19. Metroid Prime (22)
20. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (12)
21. Super Mario Galaxy (20)
22. Final Fantasy VI (NR)
23. Final Fantasy IX (25)
24. Mega Man 2 (NR)
25t. Final Fantasy VII (24)
25t. Tales of Symphonia (23)

Dropped off:

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (17)

Also receiving votes:

49 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
31 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
30 - Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
27 - Portal
26 - Assassin's Creed II
26 - Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
17 - Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
17 - Star Fox 64
17 - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
11 - SoulCalibur II
5 - Bioshock
4 - Batman: Arkham Asylum
4 - Fire Emblem 7
3 - Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
2 - Pokemon Black/White
2 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
1 - Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
1 - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

Mega Man 2 finally makes its debut, while Twilight Princess narrowly misses the top 25 again, this time by 5 points! And while I generally don't do ties anymore, when you have a tie for 25th, it's hard to avoid!

Don't want to start matches this late, so we'll start up tomorrow.

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KCF0107
06/30/11 8:18:00 PM
#2:


hold up, was my vote disqualified? I said that I would change it if that was going to be the case but you never gave me any indication that you would

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vcharon
06/30/11 8:20:00 PM
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TP seriously didn't make it AGAIN?

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LeonhartFour
06/30/11 8:20:00 PM
#4:


I counted your top 24.

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th3l3fty
06/30/11 8:31:00 PM
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about time MM2 made it!

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paulg235
06/30/11 8:32:00 PM
#6:


Someone seriously voted KOTOR because LTTP looked bad in that match?

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LeonhartFour
06/30/11 8:32:00 PM
#7:


LMS did, yes.

He was also the Uncharted 2 vote.

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KCF0107
06/30/11 8:33:00 PM
#8:


The biggest outrage is obviously the omission of MVP Baseball from "Also Receiving Votes"

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th3l3fty
06/30/11 8:34:00 PM
#9:


XD MVP Baseball 2005, you mean

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paulg235
06/30/11 8:35:00 PM
#10:


KCF0107 posted...
The biggest outrage is obviously the omission of MVP Baseball from "Also Receiving Votes"
If Leon accepted it again, I would've honestly considered putting Tekken 3 at #25 the very next week.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/11 8:36:00 PM
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Oh right, if you guys want to see the overall point totals, here they are:

503 - Chrono Trigger
495 - Super Mario 64
489 - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
431 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
395 - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
386 - Super Mario Bros. 3
384 - Resident Evil 4
375 - The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
360 - Super Mario World
345 - Super Metroid
290 - Paper Mario
270 - Super Smash Bros. Melee
258 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
221 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
195 - Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
179 - Metal Gear Solid
165 - Final Fantasy X
137 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
130 - Metroid Prime
107 - Super Mario Galaxy 2
101 - Super Mario Galaxy
83 - Final Fantasy VI
75 - Final Fantasy IX
69 - Mega Man 2
54 - Final Fantasy VII
54 - Tales of Symphonia
49 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
31 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
30 - Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
27 - Portal
26 - Assassin's Creed II
26 - Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
17 - Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
17 - Star Fox 64
17 - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
11 - SoulCalibur II
5 - Bioshock
4 - Batman: Arkham Asylum
4 - Fire Emblem 7
3 - Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
2 - Pokemon Black/White
2 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
1 - Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
1 - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

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LinkMarioSamus
06/30/11 8:41:00 PM
#12:


In retrospect I should've placed Persona 4 between Mega Man 2 and Knights of the Old Republic.

I can't really think of any other glaring omission. And no, I looked at DKC2's records and they did not jive with me.

EDIT: Wait, where are the next matches?

Oh yeah and I should've placed Metal Gear Solid 2 in there as well. Oh well, live and learn.

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paulg235
06/30/11 8:47:00 PM
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From: LeonhartFour | #001
Don't want to start matches this late, so we'll start up tomorrow.



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LinkMarioSamus
06/30/11 9:00:00 PM
#14:


Oops, didn't see that.

Oh yeah, and it seems that Metal Gear Solid 4 is the only game in the Patriot Time Portals division that's guaranteed to win its match. It's absolutely scary to think that that division could possibly go 1-11 this week.

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TsunamiXXVIII
06/30/11 9:34:00 PM
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Awesome. Now that Black/White's actually receiving votes again, I have greater justification for considering it a quality win that keeps RBY at the top of my ballot.

And right now it needs all the help it can get--it's lucky it's facing Star Fox 64, because if it were facing a weak game this week, it could very well drop into third--Ocarina of Time will likely pick up a huge win this week against SMB3, and if SMW2 continues to win matches it has no right to win the way it has been for the last three or four weeks, it could be shooting up there as well.

Wait, why am I even acknowledging this? I'm supposed to be pretending that Star Fox 64 actually has a chance to win this match, even though I know it doesn't.

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swirIdude
06/30/11 9:46:00 PM
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Awesome. Now that Black/White's actually receiving votes again, I have greater justification for considering it a quality win that keeps RBY at the top of my ballot.

No, you don't. That was one of the several games that got votes this week for no adequately explored reason. 6 vote win over TF2 isn't worth anything.

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VeryInsane
06/30/11 9:59:00 PM
#17:


Time to put Okami or Grim Fandango in my Number 25 spot next week!

Both have good records, both are my only nominations!

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LinkMarioSamus
06/30/11 10:03:00 PM
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Something doesn't feel right about thinking that Mario 3 could possibly lose to Ocarina.

Ocarina did do much better against FF7, but I have an odd feeling that that won't matter.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/11 11:29:00 PM
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Hopefully Mario 3/OoT will live up to the hype!

Mario 64/SSBM, too!

And Brawl/Galaxy 2, I guess!

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LinkMarioSamus
06/30/11 11:34:00 PM
#20:


Man what is up with all these hyped matches being Nintendo vs. Nintendo?

(somewhat sarcastic)

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red sox 777
06/30/11 11:54:00 PM
#21:


Almost all the strong games are Nintendo! See what this tournament would be without Chrono Trigger!

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th3l3fty
07/01/11 12:06:00 AM
#22:


it would be a glorious place where Super Mario 64 reigns supreme!

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 12:07:00 AM
#23:


Sounds like a hideous bizzaro world that should remain in the alternate dimension where it belongs.

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red sox 777
07/01/11 12:13:00 AM
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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 12:16:00 AM
#25:


And that's a spot on red sox's top 25 list next week!

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th3l3fty
07/01/11 12:21:00 AM
#26:


the only thing bizarro here are your tastes~

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LinkMarioSamus
07/01/11 12:22:00 AM
#27:


Okay, if I was given a second chance I would definitely kick KOTOR, Uncharted 2, and Phoenix Wright 3 all out in favor of Tales of Symphonia, Persona 4, and Metal Gear Solid 2.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 12:22:00 AM
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Coming from lefty, the ironing is truly delicious

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 12:23:00 AM
#29:


From: LinkMarioSamus | #027
I would definitely kick KOTOR, Uncharted 2


Good start, good start.

and Phoenix Wright 3 all out in favor of Tales of Symphonia, Persona 4, and Metal Gear Solid 2.


Ooh, so close.

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Janus5000
07/01/11 12:26:00 AM
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To be fair, all three of those replacements are probably better choices than KOTOR and UC2.

...Not that they belong in the top 25!

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 12:27:00 AM
#31:


Well, they're better choices than KOTOR and UC2, for sure!

But none of them deserve to be in over T&T, at the very least! And only Symphonia has a solid case for the top 25 at all!

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swirIdude
07/01/11 12:42:00 AM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Well, they're better choices than KOTOR and UC2, for sure!

But none of them deserve to be in over T&T, at the very least! And only Symphonia has a solid case for the top 25 at all!


Persona 4 would be #1 if we were just going by quality.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 12:14:00 PM
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/59611817

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 5:39:00 PM
#34:


Week 9 schedule is now online, so check it out! Got some good ones in store for next week!

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Janus5000
07/01/11 6:40:00 PM
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I love seeing how much the RNG hates SOTN.

All part of the plan, I assume.

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red sox 777
07/01/11 6:42:00 PM
#36:


So if Melee beats Mario 64, how many of us are willing to put it back in the top 5?

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 6:43:00 PM
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I say we drop Mario 64 out of the top 25 completely, personally.

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th3l3fty
07/01/11 6:51:00 PM
#38:


I personally say we let it slide because the anti-Mario sentiments that are the sole reason for its loss will eventually recede.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 6:52:00 PM
#39:


I'm sick of your pro-Mario 64 sentiments!

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KCF0107
07/01/11 6:54:00 PM
#40:


For me, its slot depends on two things:

How many undefeated teams are left
How the match went

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KCF0107
07/01/11 6:56:00 PM
#41:


If it has a close loss, it may be among the first five games that have a loss

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swirIdude
07/01/11 6:59:00 PM
#42:


I find it ironic that the Mario anti-vote is supporting a fighter with Mario in it that is also named after Mario

That's like hating on Coke and then buying Coke Zero.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/01/11 7:07:00 PM
#43:


Both Mario games are losing pretty badly right now for whatever reason. Nintendo seems to be flunking everywhere.

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th3l3fty
07/01/11 7:08:00 PM
#44:


that is a horrendous analogy

Coke and Coke Zero are both sodas with (at the least) very similar tastes

Mario 64 is a 3D platformer and Melee is a 2D fighter!

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swirIdude
07/01/11 8:59:00 PM
#45:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Both Mario games are losing pretty badly right now for whatever reason. Nintendo seems to be flunking everywhere.

Why can't we all just get along?

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 9:01:00 PM
#46:


You must have an Ulti-esque definition of "losing pretty badly" because neither one is.

Or maybe they've just caught up since you posted.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/01/11 9:05:00 PM
#47:


When I posted, Castlevania was winning by 5 votes and Melee by 6.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/11 9:05:00 PM
#48:


That's still not "losing pretty badly!"

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LinkMarioSamus
07/01/11 9:23:00 PM
#49:


It is considering my expectations.

Now both Mario games are down by 3 votes to their respective opponents. It's pretty funny to think that Super Mario 64 could lose on the same day as Symphony of the Night winning and Knights of the Old Republic blowing out its opponent.

And huh, looks like Sonic Adventure isn't such a pansy after all! Makes Super Metroid look much better!

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charmander6000
07/01/11 9:26:00 PM
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Melee > SM64 was always possible before the contest and even coming into the match. At the same time I wouldn't be surprised to see the reverse happen duting the bracket stage.

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