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Naomi_Diamond
05/20/11 4:47:00 PM
#301:


I can't wait for BBAS2.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/20/11 4:53:00 PM
#302:


First comp:

haha will riding the asteroid
jase winning HoH after taking out marcellas "tricky". first person to ever be the first HoH in 2 seasons!

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LOLContests
05/20/11 6:00:00 PM
#303:


Cowboy continually getting rejected is one of the best ongoing Big Brother subplots.

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SanityLapse
05/20/11 9:43:00 PM
#304:


Cowboy continually getting rejected is one of the best ongoing Big Brother subplots.

Haha yes. They keep trying so hard to bring him back, and it never works.

Also, BB2, BB6, and BB7 are definitely the 3 best seasons. This seems like a pretty general consensus here too. I didn't even see all of 2, and I still knew it was amazing because of Will. I need to rewatch that one sometime.


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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 10:52:00 AM
#305:


oh god alison evicted

neither of these girls are on their game this season

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 11:05:00 AM
#306:


Julie messed up in a lot of the earlier seasons. "Congratulations Nakomis! errr wait"

I didn't see that happen in BB10/11/12.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 12:38:00 PM
#307:


Maybe it's just me but Diane seems much more attractive this season than in BB5.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 12:42:00 PM
#308:


will has balls

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 1:08:00 PM
#309:


okay nakomis gone early im okay with that

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 5:27:00 PM
#310:


oh god jase is getting 'backdoored' (not really)

that sucks

i have this weird feeling diane is gonna reach the end

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 5:50:00 PM
#311:


“This is truly an all-star season... because I am astonished by your gameplay here. Now a lot of you have come up to me and you've said "Will, you don't really seem like you're into it, you don't really seem like you want to play," and you said "Why? What's the reason for that?" And I said to myself, "I don't know. I don't know why I can't be... I don't understand it." So I had a heart-to-heart with myself and I said, "Will, what is the reason? Why are you having such a hard time playing?" - and this is the truth.

Season two - the season that I won - there was a lot of people that I hated, and it was easy for me to motivate and to find individuals that I disliked, and it gave me power. It gave me a reason to want to play. It gave me a reason to want to fight. It gave me a reason to want to remove people from the game. Then I thought "So why haven't I had that motivation?"

And I thought it was because I really liked everyone here. But then I realized it was the opposite of that. I can’t find an individual to hate, because I hate you all. There's no one I hate more than anyone else.

This is what I'm gonna do- I’m going to ask to be removed from this game by you all. Now, if you refuse to kick me out, I will be throwing every competition, I will throw every HOH, I will throw every POV, and I will throw every food competition. George is on slop, and I will do the best I can to ensure that we all are on slop- unless you get together, have a big group meeting, and vote me out.” - Will Kirby

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 6:11:00 PM
#312:


Jase: "This game is not my game. I was really meant to be cast for Survivor. This is not my genre."

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 6:45:00 PM
#313:


wow the bb6 alliance is dominating

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SanityLapse
05/21/11 7:26:00 PM
#314:


Naomi_Diamond posted...
“This is truly an all-star season... because I am astonished by your gameplay here. Now a lot of you have come up to me and you've said "Will, you don't really seem like you're into it, you don't really seem like you want to play," and you said "Why? What's the reason for that?" And I said to myself, "I don't know. I don't know why I can't be... I don't understand it." So I had a heart-to-heart with myself and I said, "Will, what is the reason? Why are you having such a hard time playing?" - and this is the truth.

Season two - the season that I won - there was a lot of people that I hated, and it was easy for me to motivate and to find individuals that I disliked, and it gave me power. It gave me a reason to want to play. It gave me a reason to want to fight. It gave me a reason to want to remove people from the game. Then I thought "So why haven't I had that motivation?"

And I thought it was because I really liked everyone here. But then I realized it was the opposite of that. I can’t find an individual to hate, because I hate you all. There's no one I hate more than anyone else.

This is what I'm gonna do- I’m going to ask to be removed from this game by you all. Now, if you refuse to kick me out, I will be throwing every competition, I will throw every HOH, I will throw every POV, and I will throw every food competition. George is on slop, and I will do the best I can to ensure that we all are on slop- unless you get together, have a big group meeting, and vote me out.” - Will Kirby

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"I have made the target on my back so giant that it's become invisible." - Will Kirby



That is still one of my all time favorite reality show moments. Will Kirby so good.


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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 7:40:00 PM
#315:


d'awww will is gettin all up in janelle's business

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FFDragon
05/21/11 10:18:00 PM
#316:


Will's speech was A++ and is something that could only have been pulled off by him.

SeaSick Domination Zone.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 10:37:00 PM
#317:


erika should go next

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 11:00:00 PM
#318:


booooooooooo diane should have stayed

erika sucks

wtf america

yay will voting to evict erika, good man

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Naomi_Diamond
05/21/11 11:11:00 PM
#319:


oh god a coup d'etat

joy

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 1:27:00 PM
#320:


Janelle is the strongest player in the house, but Will is controlling her; therefore, Will is the strongest player.

Amazing how this works out. Will is good.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 1:41:00 PM
#321:


ugh the coup d'etat

get it out

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 2:24:00 PM
#322:


i hope erika doesn't reach the end

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 2:30:00 PM
#323:


i would laugh if boogie used the coup d'etat anyway

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 4:26:00 PM
#324:


oh great now she's HOH

she's making the final 2

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 6:32:00 PM
#325:


xd will romances a camera

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 6:47:00 PM
#326:


holy crap it's NPH

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FFDragon
05/22/11 7:27:00 PM
#327:


Naomi_Diamond posted...
holy crap it's NPH



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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 9:19:00 PM
#328:


augh erika foiling everything

i guess that needs to happen sometimes, terrible characters going far

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 9:35:00 PM
#329:


Okay, Boogie gets my approval for bringing up Richard Hatch.

10 seconds into the competition:

Mike: "Hey Julie?"
Julie: "Yes Mike?"
Mike: "Remember Richard Hatch?"
Julie: "Yes I do."
Mike: "They both have to take me to the finals." *jumps off*
Janelle: "WHAT?!"
Erika: "Told you Janelle."
Julie: "Haha..."
Mike: "You can't take each other. You have to take me. You won't make that big a mistake. You won't. You made the smartest play ever tonight Janelle, you can't make that mistake. You can't take her. I'll play in part two."


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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 9:37:00 PM
#330:


Wow, shortest endurance challenge ever.

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FFDragon
05/22/11 9:44:00 PM
#331:


Boogie completely mind****ed everyone. Julie and Janelle were both like uhhhhhhhhhhhh and their big 'endurance' challenge got blown to pieces.

Best.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 10:21:00 PM
#332:


Yeah, Janelle was disqualified because she accidentally reacted by taking one of her hands off her key, thus ending the endurance challenge 15 seconds in. So good.

And Boogie saying "scrubika" is SO AWESOME. Okay, I'm at peace now with him winning.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 10:45:00 PM
#333:


This answer:

Danielle: "Boogie, you looked me in my face and you said you were gonna be my Jason. Well, Boogie, Jason would have never done what you did to me. So justify yourself."
Boogie: "I'll make you a deal Danielle. You give me your vote to win the money, and if I go home to my TiVo and I don't see more than one 'Jason', I'll give you half. I think James was your 'Jason', I think Erika was your 'Jason', I think I was your 'Jason' - you were a very dangerous player that had to go, and I just won't apologize for it."

so good

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 11:14:00 PM
#334:


Awesome. Finished. I've now seen BB2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, and 12 to their entirety. I've only seen half of 9 and 11 - not sure if I care enough to finish them (I know who wins and all that, plus the entire boot order of 11).

I may still use this topic for other stuff beyond just waiting for BB13. Maybe I'll start ranking something like my favorite heroes/villains from Survivor.


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Chill Town
05/22/11 11:15:00 PM
#335:




That's probably my favorite scene in all of Big Brother.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/22/11 11:27:00 PM
#336:


Yeah, I loved that scene. I'd totally do something like that.

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SanityLapse
05/23/11 1:00:00 AM
#337:


So BB7, greatest BB season, yes?


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05/23/11 3:30:00 AM
#338:


I started rewatching Micronesia.

I just finished the first two episodes. Wow, I can actually remember when the season seemed like it had potential. Fairplay's early boot is disappointing, but episode 2 was good. There was still the hope that the amazing alliance of Yau, Eliza, and Penner would last. The fans had some hilariously awful people like Joel and Kathy.

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to episode 3, because the entire season turns to s*** from there on out. I'll see if I can somehow appreciate it more, knowing that it sucks in advance.


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Naomi_Diamond
05/23/11 11:13:00 AM
#339:


I loved Micronesia. And the fans tribe was hilarious(ly terrible). Also not exactly "fans".

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Naomi_Diamond
05/23/11 11:19:00 AM
#340:


Also:

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GTM
05/24/11 8:51:00 PM
#341:


I assume you would like this bumped

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Naomi_Diamond
05/25/11 9:53:00 AM
#342:


Yes.

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SanityLapse
05/25/11 6:54:00 PM
#343:


I'm liking Micronesia so far this time. Last episode I watched was the Kathy quit / Tracy boot episode. Maybe because it feels so different from a number of the last seasons. We actually have an even distribution of screen time between the contestants, and I feel like we know them pretty well. Aside from Yau-Man, who luckily wasn't shown much, because it would have made his early boot that much harder. And Natalie, who evolves later. And maybe Ami, who sucked in her first season, so I don't give a s***.

Another thing, is that it feels so fresh seeing all these challenges. This season actually had a lot of great challenges, and this was probably the last time that Survivor had true ocean challenges. Because since then we had Gabon and Tocantins, where I don't remember many water challenges. Then Samoa twice, where the ocean usage was really limited. Then Nicaragua twice, where the ocean couldn't be used. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of that, but it still feels like this was the first time I was seeing the ocean used in challenges since Micronesia originally aired. Palau really was a fantastic location. They had great wildlife and scenery, and were able to use so much there. They should go back.

And, this season seemed more unpredictable. Votes weren't stacked in obvious ways (Even Chet and Fairplay's elimination showed no votes for anyone else, which is always really unusual). The episodes seemed edited to make it seem like there were a lot more possibilities, instead of sticking to a narrative of one character who was just deciding between two people. Since they evenly edit people, we see so many choices. And it works in terms of making the strategy more interesting, and more importantly, the characters more interesting.

And back to the characters. It's a shame at the order the fans got eliminated in. For some reason I remember hating Mikey B on my first watch. I have absolutely no idea why. I didn't see anything to hate about him this time. He was logical, reasonable, and he wasn't even arrogant. He seemed to be playing a really solid game, and it was because of the fact that Joel was playing a mid-game at the beginning of the game that Mikey B left. Joel was also a player that I don't think is as bad as a lot of people think. He's actually a smart guy, and was just playing too hard for his own good. He was more done in by Tracy and Cirie, who are obviously superior players, but in any other season, I think Joel could have a legitimate shot. Then of course there was Tracy, who had a good game going, maybe lucked into the fact that Joel was playing hard early on, then got screwed by a tribal shuffle, and s****y Chet quitting. So you end up with probably 3 of the best strategic fan players going before the merge, and instead, you are left with Erik who wants Ozzy sexually, and Jason who is also one of the biggest air heads the game has ever seen. And since they didn't edit Natalie in until later, that makes things worse. And Alexis is just like a narrator who has no real personality, kind of like Amanda.


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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
05/26/11 5:25:00 PM
#344:


lol I played the Survivor PC game last night

got 6th place :|

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TimJab
05/26/11 5:36:00 PM
#345:


From: Chill Town | #335


That's probably my favorite scene in all of Big Brother.


XD

I always laugh at Chicken's "The chill...is in...the towns" line.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/26/11 5:38:00 PM
#346:


Sadly though that scene leads back to the downfall of Chill Town as well. Also Will should have made more moves on Janelle. He let too much distance fall between them.

Or at least that's what the edited TV segments portrayed.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/26/11 5:39:00 PM
#347:


Well, maybe not the downfall of "Chill Town", but the downfall of Will.

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DoctorBIind
05/26/11 5:41:00 PM
#348:


Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted...
lol I played the Survivor PC game last night

got 6th place :|


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FFDragon
05/26/11 5:49:00 PM
#349:


Nah, Will did fine. He was one errant veto away from winning the game a second time. Will and Boogie walked into the game wearing Chill Town T-Shirts for the most part and rode the game like a pony to the final four. It would have been stupid for either of the girls to let them both make the final three, regardless of relationship.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
05/26/11 5:51:00 PM
#350:


From: DoctorBIind | #348
The Australia one? Nostalgia attack.


Yeah. It's such a terribly designed game.

I really wish they'd make a quality Survivor video game that didn't completely suck ass.

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