Board 8 > I'm confused about what's supposed to be feminist or sexist.

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This is probably going to be the most LMS topic ever, but here goes.

neither is inherently sexist and viewing media through these lenses is so fuckin' stupid

Honestly I agree. I feel like people make way to big a deal out of MOM and TLJ being sexist.

neither is inherently sexist and viewing media through these lenses is so fuckin' stupid

Slow down there. That type of dynamic is not Inherently sexist, but in MOM it is sexist in practice.

Wait how is MOM sexist

wait, did you mean Metroid: Other M or Multiverse of Madness?

Also, please go touch grass LMS

-It seems like Wanda's character arc in the new Doctor Strange movie is accused of being woke f

This is probably going to be the most LMS topic ever, but here goes.

-If Adam Malkovich barking orders at Samus in Other M is supposed to be sexist towards women, then why is Vice Admiral Holdo viewing Poe similarly contemptuously in The Last Jedi supposed to be sexist towards men? Then logically shouldn't neither be sexist, or are people just not allowed to bark orders at others of the opposite sex?

-It seems like Wanda's character arc in the new Doctor Strange movie is accused of being woke for covering similar territory that got Other M labelled sexist. Is it really a difference that Wanda's maternal instincts empower her vs. hindering Samus?

This is probably going to be the most LMS topic ever, but here goes.

I've played ALL of Other M.
Adam barking orders at Samus is NOT sexist.
To explain, Samus viewed Adam as a FATHER figure. She is agreeing to follow Adam's orders due to her viewing him as a father. Under other circumstances she would NOT be following his orders, but because she knows him and considers him a father figure, she will listen to him.
So no, it's not sexist.
Other M focuses a lot on daddy issues and mommy issues (EX # 1 of many of the mommy issues in Other M: Samus blabbing about: "The Baby!! The baby! blah, blah, blah, the BABY, blah, blah blah, etc, etc, etc)", not feminist / sexist issues.
Now, is Adam highly incompetent at his job? Oh, hell yes. He is the most incompetent commanding officer I have ever seen in a video game. He sucks as his job. He does not give out orders out of being sexist. But he does give out highly incompetent orders because he is highly incompetent at his job.
The orders he gave out in the Volcano scene in Other M is a damn good example of Adam being an idiot at his job.

wait, did you mean Metroid: Other M or Multiverse of Madness?

Part of it is also I feel like the game was never THAT hated, only marginally more than something like Jurassic Park III or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and certainly nowhere near as intensely as something like The Last Jedi. It's just Nintendo rarely makes such a big misfire that continues to fascinate me somewhat, but even then they took Metroid back to the drawing board and it wound up paying off for many. And even then, I wound up watching Batman & Robin for a lot of the reasons I'm seemingly obsessed with Other M and didn't remotely regret it.

why the fuck would i click this topic

It's just Nintendo rarely makes such a big misfire that continues to fascinate me somewhat

Honestly yeah that's a real head-scratcher, Samus idolizing a glorified Hate Sink so much. But from what I gather half the accusations of sexism aimed at Other M are more aimed at seeming desecration of a feminist icon than they are at actually making women look bad...not that Other M is free of that though.

Honestly I feel like you can rationalize a lot of the weird aspects of the game's plot but it amounts to doing the director's homework for him. No thanks. For those of you wondering how I did a complete 180 with Other M...look, sometimes you get excited for the hot new thing and it takes you a while for your hype to die down and realize it isn't that good. Plus I've seen a lot more movies since and I have a better grasp of good and bad storytelling. And Other M's plot is one of the few cases where I'd say calls of "character assassination" and "plot holes" are fully warranted since people bandy about those terms so much nowadays they have basically lost all meaning.

Part of it is also I feel like the game was never THAT hated, only marginally more than something like Jurassic Park III or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and certainly nowhere near as intensely as something like The Last Jedi. It's just Nintendo rarely makes such a big misfire that continues to fascinate me somewhat, but even then they took Metroid back to the drawing board and it wound up paying off for many. And even then, I wound up watching Batman & Robin for a lot of the reasons I'm seemingly obsessed with Other M and didn't remotely regret it.

Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich. Malkovich, Malkovich. Malkovich Malkovich?

I mostly made this topic because I found it curious how Multiverse of Madness is considered 'woke' for assassinating a female character. That plus figuring out the hilarious acronym similarity with Other M and how it was most certainly intentional in both cases.

Multiverse of Madness also strikes me as being the MCU's closest equivalent to TLJ thus far, even from the praise it gets (for its director's style and character-driven nature). Previously it would have been either Iron Man 3 or Black Panther.

I mostly made this topic because I found it curious how Multiverse of Madness is considered 'woke' for assassinating a female character.

What encourages a man to stay stuck on two pieces of media for the rest of his life?

Who compared Black Panther to TLJ????