Current Events > Does Biden bear any responsibility for people not wanting to vote for him?

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hockeybabe89 posted...

There's no reason to not vote for him. He's better than Trump and everything else is irrelevant.

I hate Biden and don't support him at all, but I am forced to vote for him.

No, you're not, and allowing people to railroad you into that isn't good.

Getting dogpiled on here for expressing my opinion is literally the worst thing that I'll experience for not voting. Trump will win my county and state, regardless of whether I vote. Many others are in the same position, in one way or another.

hockeybabe89 posted...

There's no reason to not vote for him. He's better than Trump and everything else is irrelevant.

I hate Biden and don't support him at all, but I am forced to vote for him.

why iiSn'T criticism of Biden aLlOwED!!!
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nekrodev posted...

No, you're not, and allowing people to railroad you into that isn't good.

Pretty sure she can and did choose for herself.

As much as she could, since her life is literally on the line in the case of a Trump win.

But don't let that get in the way of your schtick, you're so smart.

nekrodev posted...

No, you're not, and allowing people to railroad you into that isn't good.

Getting dogpiled on here for expressing my opinion is literally the worst thing that I'll experience for not voting. Trump will win my county and state, regardless of whether I vote. Many others are in the same position, in one way or another.

Trans people have a lot to lose and its really ignorant to say that they have a choice.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

*Double whooosh!*

Why did you bring up Nixon? You think time has made Vietnam look less pointless and Biden will look less bad for a genocide?

nekrodev posted...

Getting dogpiled on here for expressing my opinion is literally the worst thing that I'll experience for not voting.

Extremely revealing

shyguybry posted...

Im not voting period, I just dont care.

Trump sympathiser

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Trans people have a lot to lose and its really ignorant to say that they have a choice.

If you live in a solid red district in a solid red state, your one vote blue doesn't matter. In my district, for instance, we would need a 15% increase in Dem voters, and that's just my district, I don't recall what some of the other districts were, or my state as a whole.

My support for my trans friends, my dislike of Trump, none of it matters. And if I moved to a solid blue district in a solid blue state, it wouldn't matter either, cuz the Dems would win no matter what.

nekrodev posted...

No, you're not, and allowing people to railroad you into that isn't good.

Getting dogpiled on here for expressing my opinion is literally the worst thing that I'll experience for not voting. Trump will win my county and state, regardless of whether I vote. Many others are in the same position, in one way or another.

No one forces you to state you will not vote.

1. You chose to vocalize it. Why?

DrizztLink posted...

Pretty sure she can and did choose for herself.

As much as she could, since her life is literally on the line in the case of a Trump win.

But don't let that get in the way of your schtick, you're so smart.

They said they were FORCED lol, that doesn't sound like choosing. And I didn't tell them not to vote, I said they could do what they wanted, and shouldn't allow this kind of shit to make you feel that way.

I also don't know anything about that person, nor did they include the reasons as to why they were forced, so I have no context for that.

No. The "but genocide" people weren't gonna vote for Biden anyway. Those are just excuses to shit on Biden.

nekrodev posted...

In my district, for instance, we would need a 15% increase in Dem voters

Fun fact about increasing voter turnout: you're fucking it up.

Biden = funding Israel

Trump = sending US fighter jets to carpet bomb Gaza

nekrodev posted...

They said they were FORCED lol

Well the opposing party wants to murder her so...

WingsOfGood posted...

No one forces you to state you will not vote.

1. You chose to vocalize it. Why?

Oh, I'm not complaining, just pointing out that it's not a big deal. Literally trivial, in my case.

Shadow_Don posted...

Well the opposing party wants to murder her so...

You can't even be remotely genuine lol. The rest of my post goes on to say that I didn't, and couldn't have known this. Also, if they're in a solid red or solid blue state, again, their vote is likely negligible.

nekrodev posted...

The rest of my post goes on to say that I didn't, and couldn't have known this.

Maybe quit throwing shit around when you don't understand all the facts, then.

Just a thought.

DrizztLink posted...

Maybe quit throwing shit around when you don't understand all the facts, then.

Just a thought.

Maybe stop clipping the context out of peoples' posts in order to make yourself feel better / them look bad.

You don't need my help accomplishing that.

WingsOfGood posted...

So we called it. He ignored this:

I guess he was undercover afterall.

Back just to say I addressed this a number of times. On 60 mins he said there is no red line that would make us stop funding Israel. The went on to say we have 30 k more dead. Yet after more attacks on civilians he funds them even more. Is your issue that Trump said it out loud while Biden just nods and let them get away with. Like this literally my 4th time addressing it.

nekrodev posted...

Oh, I'm not complaining, just pointing out that it's not a big deal. Literally trivial, in my case.

Uh no you are whining about it like it is the worst thing ever.
Of course in an election with so much to lose people will be upset for you chiming in "well I refuse to vote!"

DrizztLink posted...

Real fuckin' "taking my ball and running home" energy.

Nope ppl are debating another topic. Is Trump worst then Biden. This a given. Not if Biden should be held accountable for turning off some voters. I didn't attend for that Trump debate to come up again and that is where most of this going. Yes Trump sucks. Most agree on that. So why are people talking about Trump being worse.

nekrodev posted...

If you live in a solid red district in a solid red state, your one vote blue doesn't matter. In my district, for instance, we would need a 15% increase in Dem voters, and that's just my district, I don't recall what some of the other districts were, or my state as a whole.

My support for my trans friends, my dislike of Trump, none of it matters. And if I moved to a solid blue district in a solid blue state, it wouldn't matter either, cuz the Dems would win no matter what.

Do you know how increasing numbers works? If you want numbers to increase you have to go vote.

Once again, you are a defeatist who believes their vote will never matter, no matter where you vote.

cjsdowg posted...

Not if Biden should be held accountable for turning off some voters

why arent you held accountable for your voting choice?

This was an obvious bad faith topic from the jump.
*checks to see how many pages of people taking the bait*
JFC...

cjsdowg posted...

Nope ppl are debating another topic. Is Trump worst then Biden. This a given. Not if Biden should be held accountable for turning off some voters. I didn't attend for that Trump debate to come up again and that is where most of this going. Yes Trump sucks. Most agree on that. So why are people talking about Trump being worse.

You brought up voting/not voting for Biden. Who is Biden running against, exactly?

Oh yeah. Its Trump. Stop pretending you dont understand how this works

cjsdowg posted...

So why are people talking about Trump being worse.

Probably because we live in a two party system and a good chunk of them are facing having their rights removed if one of those exclusively of the two options wins.

Real fuckin' puzzler, that.

Rika_Furude posted...

why arent you held accountable for your voting choice?

The constitution bans unusual punishment.

cjsdowg posted...

Nope ppl are debating another topic. Is Trump worst then Biden. This a given. Not if Biden should be held accountable for turning off some voters. I didn't attend for that Trump debate to come up again and that is where most of this going. Yes Trump sucks. Most agree on that. So why are people talking about Trump being worse.

Because Trump IS "holding Biden accountable."

You're talking about consequences for Biden. Trump is the consequences. We're saying "the consequences don't fit the crime." It's 100% relevant.

nekrodev posted...

No, you're not, and allowing people to railroad you into that isn't good.

Getting dogpiled on here for expressing my opinion is literally the worst thing that I'll experience for not voting. Trump will win my county and state, regardless of whether I vote. Many others are in the same position, in one way or another.

CE isn't forcing me lmao

The GOP being a bunch of fascist pricks that want to exterminate me AND ruin my livelihood are forcing me to vote for Biden.

DrizztLink posted...

Probably because we live in a two party system and a good chunk of them are facing having their rights removed if one of those exclusively of the two options wins.

Real fuckin' puzzler, that.

Well make a new topic about that.

cjsdowg posted...

Well make a new topic about that.

No need, you already made this one which is already about that.

cjsdowg posted...

Back just to say I addressed this a number of times. On 60 mins he said there is no red line that would make us stop funding Israel. The went on to say we have 30 k more dead. Yet after more attacks on civilians he funds them even more. Is your issue that Trump said it out loud while Biden just nods and let them get away with. Like this literally my 4th time addressing it.

Sucks, but we have more issues than saving Palestine

ButteryMales posted...

Why did you bring up Nixon? You think time has made Vietnam look less pointless and Biden will look less bad for a genocide?

Why did I bring up someone who denounces significance of protest voting who has predicted the past several decades of elections...hmm I wonder. Oh well, let's sit on our hands and find out!

WingsOfGood posted...

Uh no you are whining about it like it is the worst thing ever.
Of course in an election with so much to lose people will be upset for you chiming in "well I refuse to vote!"

I'm not whining, I don't care at all. Having an active discussion, regardless of how pointless, makes my day go by quicker.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Do you know how increasing numbers works? If you want numbers to increase you have to go vote.

Once again, you are a defeatist who believes their vote will never matter, no matter where you vote.

Their isn't suddenly going to be a 15% jump for Dems, not in a area that's 65%+ solid red. You'd be lucky if most of the 30% who aren't voting aren't more Libertarian / anarcho-capitalist types.

It's just math. And the math says one vote to the Dems doesn't make a difference if they were already going to win/lose by a landslide.

hockeybabe89 posted...

Sucks, but we have more issues than saving Palestine

Incoming more lying and gaslighting about how your life is equally under threat from biden and trump

ButteryMales posted...

The constitution bans unusual punishment.

your constitution does jack shit against the public perception of trump supporters

cjsdowg posted...

Back just to say I addressed this a number of times. On 60 mins he said there is no red line that would make us stop funding Israel. The went on to say we have 30 k more dead. Yet after more attacks on civilians he funds them even more. Is your issue that Trump said it out loud while Biden just nods and let them get away with. Like this literally my 4th time addressing it.

You still do not address it. You deflect with "but Biden!!".

The question was about you IGNORING Trump disastrous policy and hatres of Muslims.
You say NOTHING about it.

Hope that guy in my other thread is not your alt.

hockeybabe89 posted...

CE isn't forcing me lmao

The GOP being a bunch of fascist pricks that want to exterminate me AND ruin my livelihood are forcing me to vote for Biden.

Thank you for the reply, some of the others have mentioned this since your original post. I was not aware of your situation.

nekrodev posted...

Their isn't suddenly going to be a 15% jump for Dems, not in a area that's 65%+ solid red.

Especially not if you sit there and whine about it instead of actually doing something.

nekrodev posted...

I'm not whining, I don't care at all. Having an active discussion, regardless of how pointless, makes my day go by quicker.

Their isn't suddenly going to be a 15% jump for Dems, not in a area that's 65%+ solid red. You'd be lucky if most of the 30% who aren't voting aren't more Libertarian / anarcho-capitalist types.

It's just math. And the math says one vote to the Dems doesn't make a difference if they were already going to win/lose by a landslide.

How many people do you think have the exact same mindset and thus dont vote? Its never just one vote. Its just easier for you to be defeatist like this.

Republicans like when people have your mindset btw. Youre suppressing your own vote and they dont even have to try.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

Why did I bring up someone who denounces significance of protest voting who has predicted the past several decades of elections...hmm I wonder. Oh well, let's sit on our hands and find out!

Richard Nixon didn't need to bug Watergate if his predictions are that good.

DrizztLink posted...

Especially not if you sit there and whine about it instead of actually doing something.

If you wanna come here and try to convince a bunch of rednecks who thought Obama was the anti-christ to vote blue, you're more than welcome.

I'm quite sure Biden doesn't want to be in office, per se

A real public service figure

:)

If there wasn't so much to lose, I'd be morbidly curious to see how @cjsdowg appreciates an America where the other guy wins.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

How many people do you think have the exact same mindset and thus dont vote? Its never just one vote. Its just easier for you to be defeatist like this.

Republicans like when people have your mindset btw. Youre suppressing your own vote and they dont even have to try.

probably quite a few, but i know where i live and the people who live here, and i'm not wasting my time.

in maybe 20-30 years, as the boomers die off, things will shift, but not until then.

Even if you think that Biden's presidency is akin to being punched in the dick, if your only viable options are that or being shot in the dick repeatedly, you're just asking to get shot in the dick if you leave it up entirely for others to decide.

Sorry you're being railroaded away from having an entire magazine unloaded into your johnson.

Shadow_Don posted...

Incoming more lying and gaslighting about how your life is equally under threat from biden and trump

Maybe a hypothetical about how I would vote if both parties were actively planning to oppress, persecute, and exterminate minority groups across the country.

nekrodev posted...

If you wanna come here and try to convince a bunch of rednecks who thought Obama was the anti-christ to vote blue, you're more than welcome.

We're not.

We're trying to convince people like you, who have given up and decided to let those freaks take the wheel.

nekrodev posted...

If you wanna come here and try to convince a bunch of rednecks who thought Obama was the anti-christ to vote blue, you're more than welcome.

I'm already in a once-deep-red county that we took back and are keeping by our fingernails.

The exact thing you think is impossible.

Quit waiting for a magic fix-all and go fucking do something.