Current Events > Does Biden bear any responsibility for people not wanting to vote for him?

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cjsdowg 04/25/24 6:48:42 AM #1:	I have seen people on this very board tell others that they must be supporting Trump if they don't vote for Joe Biden. Despite all the horrible things that he is doing and those people saying that they will vote 3rd party of not at all. People still attack these folks . And I was wondering does Biden hold any Responsibility here at all. Like can he just do anything and people should vote for him if not some how they are the issue? --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980083423] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>I have seen people on this very board tell others that they must be supporting Trump if they don't vote for Joe Biden. Despite all the horrible things that he is doing and those people saying that they will vote 3rd party of not at all. People still attack these folks . And I was wondering does Biden hold any Responsibility here at all. Like can he just do anything and people should vote for him if not some how they are the issue? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Whiterun_Guard_ 04/25/24 6:49:19 AM #2:	I think he should have stepped aside but it's too late for that now. --- No lollygaggin'. <cite>Whiterun_Guard_ posted [p:980083431] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>I think he should have stepped aside but it's too late for that now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 04/25/24 6:58:36 AM #3:	cjsdowg posted... I have seen people on this very board tell others that they must be supporting Trump if they don't vote for Joe Biden. Despite all the horrible things that he is doing and those people saying that they will vote 3rd party of not at all. People still attack these folks . And I was wondering does Biden hold any Responsibility here at all. Like can he just do anything and people should vote for him if not some how they are the issue? These people should just vote blue if they don't want to be criticized. --- Miss what the Current Events board used to be? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://discord.gg/ThGKk5UaK6 <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:980083500] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>I have seen people on this very board tell others that they must be supporting Trump if they don't vote for Joe Biden. Despite all the horrible things that he is doing and those people saying that they will vote 3rd party of not at all. People still attack these folks . And I was wondering does Biden hold any Responsibility here at all. Like can he just do anything and people should vote for him if not some how they are the issue?</quote>These people should just vote blue if they don't want to be criticized. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 04/25/24 6:59:47 AM #4:	cjsdowg posted... Like can he just do anything and people should vote for him if not some how they are the issue? This is the dumbest thing I'm going to read this month, huh. --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:980083503] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Like can he just do anything and people should vote for him if not some how they are the issue?</quote>This is the dumbest thing I'm going to read this month, huh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 04/25/24 7:02:00 AM #5:	If you dont vote for Biden, and trump wins, you dont get to blame anyone but yourself. You are responsible for your choices. You dont get to absolve yourself of responsibility for allowing Trump to win knowing full well what he wants to do to women, minorities, and Palestine. <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:980083517] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>If you dont vote for Biden, and trump wins, you dont get to blame anyone but yourself. You are responsible for your choices. You dont get to absolve yourself of responsibility for allowing Trump to win knowing full well what he wants to do to women, minorities, and Palestine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 04/25/24 7:09:01 AM #6:	Rika_Furude posted... If you dont vote for Biden, and trump wins, you dont get to blame anyone but yourself. You are responsible for your choices. You dont get to absolve yourself of responsibility for allowing Trump to win knowing full well what he wants to do to women, minorities, and Palestine. Very true. If these folks are so upset of being blamed if Trump wins, wouldn't it be easier for them to just vote blue and show proof while concealing their private information? It's only getting harder to vote in places where the GOP has won. --- Miss what the Current Events board used to be? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://discord.gg/ThGKk5UaK6 <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:980083564] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>If you dont vote for Biden, and trump wins, you dont get to blame anyone but yourself. You are responsible for your choices. You dont get to absolve yourself of responsibility for allowing Trump to win knowing full well what he wants to do to women, minorities, and Palestine.</quote>Very true. If these folks are so upset of being blamed if Trump wins, wouldn't it be easier for them to just vote blue and show proof while concealing their private information? It's only getting harder to vote in places where the GOP has won. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 04/25/24 7:13:00 AM #7:	He could stop funding this genocide. He could impose sanctions on the whole nation. --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:980083591] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>He could stop funding this genocide. He could impose sanctions on the whole nation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flaming_Fire619 04/25/24 7:13:18 AM #8:	I don't "want" to vote for Joe Biden. I think he's too old, I think that he could do better with balancing the Israel stuff even though geopolitics and the Middle East is a massive quagmire of threads that is far more complicated than anyone that keeps on repeating "just cut funds to Israel" keeps repeating, and I also am not a huge fan of his VP pick. But given the alternative, and the fact that it's a 2 person race, I'm going to vote for the better of two candidates and push for the primary to be better in 2028. --- Not changing until Shelton Benjamin wins the WHC Started: Jan. 10. 2009 http://myanimelist.net/profile/fantheflames <cite>Flaming_Fire619 posted [p:980083595] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>I don't "want" to vote for Joe Biden. I think he's too old, I think that he could do better with balancing the Israel stuff even though geopolitics and the Middle East is a massive quagmire of threads that is far more complicated than anyone that keeps on repeating "just cut funds to Israel" keeps repeating, and I also am not a huge fan of his VP pick.But given the alternative, and the fact that it's a 2 person race, I'm going to vote for the better of two candidates and push for the primary to be better in 2028. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/25/24 7:16:16 AM #9:	Humble_Novice posted... Very true. If these folks are so upset of being blamed if Trump wins, wouldn't it be easier for them to just vote blue and show proof while concealing their private information? It's only getting harder to vote in places where the GOP has won. See how you two could not even address the question. And Joe is an active funder of genocide so you guys own that . --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980083611] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>Very true. If these folks are so upset of being blamed if Trump wins, wouldn't it be easier for them to just vote blue and show proof while concealing their private information? It's only getting harder to vote in places where the GOP has won.</quote>See how you two could not even address the question. And Joe is an active funder of genocide so you guys own that . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 04/25/24 7:19:43 AM #10:	Yes, he absolutely has areas that he should be better on. There are some things which he could do better on without pissing off the donor class too. However, those not voting for him do need to understand that the choice is between him and Trump at this point. There is no viable third party alternative, and there never will be until the electoral college and FPTP are abolished. Biden will be the Democrat unless he dies and Trump will be the Republican unless he dies or is locked up. You don't get the luxury of a better choice, especially if you're in a battleground state. Your choices are Biden, Trump, or "I don't care" --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:980083631] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Yes, he absolutely has areas that he should be better on. There are some things which he could do better on without pissing off the donor class too.However, those not voting for him do need to understand that the choice is between him and Trump at this point. There is no viable third party alternative, and there never will be until the electoral college and FPTP are abolished. Biden will be the Democrat unless he dies and Trump will be the Republican unless he dies or is locked up. You don't get the luxury of a better choice, especially if you're in a battleground state.Your choices are Biden, Trump, or "I don't care" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deej 04/25/24 7:24:09 AM #11:	This topic can only go well, surely --- Hey, everyone, what's going on in this topic? Oh. <cite>Deej posted [p:980083657] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>This topic can only go well, surely </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 04/25/24 7:25:54 AM #12:	cjsdowg posted... See how you two could not even address the question. And Joe is an active funder of genocide so you guys own that. Let's try being earnest in one attempt at good faith, because tc is seemingly genuine in not being able to see the obvious. Yes, of course Biden holds some responsibility for how he is perceived regarding votes. cjsdowg posted... Like can he just do anything and people should vote for him if not some how they are the issue? The whole basis of why he is the only option worth voting for is because of what he does and doesn't do, and what the other options do and don't do. There is literally no other outcome possible: either Biden wins, or Trump wins. If you don't vote against Trump, you are in part responsible if he wins. Do you think Trump winning is a better option in any way? If so, how? --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:980083670] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>See how you two could not even address the question. And Joe is an active funder of genocide so you guys own that.</quote>Let's try being earnest in one attempt at good faith, because tc is seemingly genuine in not being able to see the obvious.Yes, of course Biden holds some responsibility for how he is perceived regarding votes.cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Like can he just do anything and people should vote for him if not some how they are the issue?</quote>The whole basis of why he is the only option worth voting for is because of what he does and doesn't do, and what the other options do and don't do.There is literally no other outcome possible: either Biden wins, or Trump wins. If you don't vote against Trump, you are in part responsible if he wins.Do you think Trump winning is a better option in any way? If so, how? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 04/25/24 7:29:10 AM #13:	The bare minimum of a politician's job is to get votes. That's his responsibility. Also, his decrepit ass didn't have to run in 2020, but I guess he's so desperate for the presidency that he just had to run for the position at his advanced age instead of retiring and enjoying life. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:980083690] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>The bare minimum of a politician's job is to get votes. That's his responsibility. Also, his decrepit ass didn't have to run in 2020, but I guess he's so desperate for the presidency that he just had to run for the position at his advanced age instead of retiring and enjoying life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 04/25/24 7:30:49 AM #14:	Of course, in the sense that nobodys owed votes. But to be clear, if you vote against Biden because of a reason where Trump is objectively worse on something that you care about then you dont really have a leg to stand on if Trump wins and things get objectively shittier for you and/or your cause. Thats the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot to remove a mole. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:980083698] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Of course, in the sense that nobodys owed votes.But to be clear, if you vote against Biden because of a reason where Trump is objectively worse on something that you care about then you dont really have a leg to stand on if Trump wins and things get objectively shittier for you and/or your cause. Thats the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot to remove a mole. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tanthalas 04/25/24 7:35:04 AM #15:	Ah yes, another Im going to help Trump win topic. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". <cite>Tanthalas posted [p:980083729] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Ah yes, another Im going to help Trump win topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/25/24 7:35:31 AM #16:	Tanthalas posted... Ah yes, another Im going to help Trump win topic. Well Biden seems to be doing that himself. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980083733] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>Ah yes, another Im going to help Trump win topic.</quote>Well Biden seems to be doing that himself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 04/25/24 7:40:27 AM #17:	You're free to vote or not vote for who you want. Everyone else is free to judge you for it. Don't like it too bad <cite>Axiom posted [p:980083774] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>You're free to vote or not vote for who you want. Everyone else is free to judge you for it. Don't like it too bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 04/25/24 7:48:10 AM #18:	Lol. Any? Yes actually <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980083844] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Lol. Any? Yes actually</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 04/25/24 7:50:34 AM #20:	Rika_Furude posted... If you dont vote for Biden, and trump wins, you dont get to blame anyone but yourself. You are responsible for your choices. You dont get to absolve yourself of responsibility for allowing Trump to win knowing full well what he wants to do to women, minorities, and Palestine. Dis. You are also responsible for your actions. Going "Biden did thing I don't like so it is his fault Trump won!" is being childish, irresponsible and hypocritical when you claim Biden bears responsibility but you don't. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980083864] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>If you dont vote for Biden, and trump wins, you dont get to blame anyone but yourself. You are responsible for your choices. You dont get to absolve yourself of responsibility for allowing Trump to win knowing full well what he wants to do to women, minorities, and Palestine.</quote>Dis.You are also responsible for your actions.Going "Biden did thing I don't like so it is his fault Trump won!" is being childish, irresponsible and hypocritical when you claim Biden bears responsibility but you don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 04/25/24 7:55:35 AM #21:	@cjsdowg Everyone is also responsible for their own actions. It is not just someone else's fault if you decide to stay home, vote 3rd party or vote for trump on election day. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:980083903] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>@cjsdowgEveryone is also responsible for their own actions.It is not just someone else's fault if you decide to stay home, vote 3rd party or vote for trump on election day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cory898 04/25/24 7:57:54 AM #22:	I understand the arguments for voting blue no matter what because the alternative is just so abhorrent and I absolutely do so myself, but Ive always hated these kind of arguments on message boards. Your vote is wholly and entirely yours whether you use it on one party or the other or not at all. The pressure people put on each other to vote the way I want you to is disgusting to me. Ill vote for Biden for MY reasons and not because a bunch of faceless board users think they have any business telling me what to do with MY vote. --- Probably the only Mario Maker 2 level I'll ever create worth sharing. 1RT-9RG-QKF <cite>Cory898 posted [p:980083935] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>I understand the arguments for voting blue no matter what because the alternative is just so abhorrent and I absolutely do so myself, but Ive always hated these kind of arguments on message boards. Your vote is wholly and entirely yours whether you use it on one party or the other or not at all. The pressure people put on each other to vote the way I want you to is disgusting to me. Ill vote for Biden for MY reasons and not because a bunch of faceless board users think they have any business telling me what to do with MY vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 04/25/24 7:58:56 AM #23:	cjsdowg posted... Well Biden seems to be doing that himself. To this, you are helping as well constantly promoting people to not vote for him in the roundabout way of, "asking questions." It's becomes a running theme. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:980083946] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Well Biden seems to be doing that himself.</quote>To this, you are helping as well constantly promoting people to not vote for him in the roundabout way of, "asking questions."It's becomes a running theme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/25/24 7:59:56 AM #24:	This topic again. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:980083963] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>This topic again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 04/25/24 8:01:36 AM #25:	Cory898 posted... Ill vote for Biden for MY reasons and not because a bunch of faceless board users think they have any business telling me what to do with MY vote. Fyi this isn't a thing. The topic that started it all was the opposite. It said Biden Palestine policy may cost him the election. No one made a topic saying "vote Biden!". People made a topic saying Biden is making people not vote for him and it became a hot debate. As you can see in this topic the one who started it wants to say Biden is to blame for them not voting Biden and Trump winning though I think they might be Trumper anyways and this not honest. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980083975] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Cory898 posted... </cite><quote>Ill vote for Biden for MY reasons and not because a bunch of faceless board users think they have any business telling me what to do with MY vote.</quote>Fyi this isn't a thing.The topic that started it all was the opposite. It said Biden Palestine policy may cost him the election.No one made a topic saying "vote Biden!". People made a topic saying Biden is making people not vote for him and it became a hot debate. As you can see in this topic the one who started it wants to say Biden is to blame for them not voting Biden and Trump winning though I think they might be Trumper anyways and this not honest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nekrodev 04/25/24 8:05:22 AM #26:	Absolutely. So much of our political machine has been "gotta vote for this guy cuz you DEFINITELY don't want the other guy" for so long. None of the candidates we get are actually running on stuff that would be good for us, it's just harm reduction. --- "To be, or not to be - there is no such question. To be! But to be what...?" FFBE friend ID - 432.640.287 - nekrodev <cite>nekrodev posted [p:980084003] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely. So much of our political machine has been "gotta vote for this guy cuz you DEFINITELY don't want the other guy" for so long. None of the candidates we get are actually running on stuff that would be good for us, it's just harm reduction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 04/25/24 8:07:06 AM #27:	nekrodev posted... Absolutely. So much of our political machine has been "gotta vote for this guy cuz you DEFINITELY don't want the other guy" for so long. None of the candidates we get are actually running on stuff that would be good for us, it's just harm reduction. Youve admitted you dont vote, and havent voted for at least several elections. When one candidate is trying to institute project 2025, i dont know how harm reduction isnt a reason to go out and vote against him. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:980084016] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>nekrodev posted... </cite><quote>Absolutely. So much of our political machine has been "gotta vote for this guy cuz you DEFINITELY don't want the other guy" for so long. None of the candidates we get are actually running on stuff that would be good for us, it's just harm reduction.</quote>Youve admitted you dont vote, and havent voted for at least several elections. When one candidate is trying to institute project 2025, i dont know how harm reduction isnt a reason to go out and vote against him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akuryu 04/25/24 8:13:03 AM #28:	Trump is very up-front with his hatred. Women, minorities, LGBT, immigrants... he's going to give you a front row seat to genocide, and he'll still find time to build Trump hotels over the corpses in Gaza. If you don't vote for the one and only alternative, that's 100% on you. <cite>Akuryu posted [p:980084080] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Trump is very up-front with his hatred. Women, minorities, LGBT, immigrants... he's going to give you a front row seat to genocide, and he'll still find time to build Trump hotels over the corpses in Gaza. If you don't vote for the one and only alternative, that's 100% on you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/25/24 8:13:27 AM #29:	WingsOfGood posted... Fyi this isn't a thing. The topic that started it all was the opposite. It said Biden Palestine policy may cost him the election. No one made a topic saying "vote Biden!". People made a topic saying Biden is making people not vote for him and it became a hot debate. As you can see in this topic the one who started it wants to say Biden is to blame for them not voting Biden and Trump winning though I think they might be Trumper anyways and this not honest. I have been warned for calling Republicans for what they are. The fact that you call me a Trumper before saying Biden choice to fund a genocide and attack people who speak out could cost him votes and is his fault answers my question. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980084092] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Fyi this isn't a thing.The topic that started it all was the opposite. It said Biden Palestine policy may cost him the election.No one made a topic saying "vote Biden!". People made a topic saying Biden is making people not vote for him and it became a hot debate. As you can see in this topic the one who started it wants to say Biden is to blame for them not voting Biden and Trump winning though I think they might be Trumper anyways and this not honest.</quote>I have been warned for calling Republicans for what they are. The fact that you call me a Trumper before saying Biden choice to fund a genocide and attack people who speak out could cost him votes and is his fault answers my question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 04/25/24 8:15:48 AM #30:	Tc just straight up dodges anything he can't handle lmao --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:980084111] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Tc just straight up dodges anything he can't handle lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 04/25/24 8:17:50 AM #31:	This topic keeps coming up over and over and over. If you think Biden is bad for funding genocide, how can you not see that Trump is infinitely worse? --- he/him/his <cite>Euripides posted [p:980084133] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>This topic keeps coming up over and over and over.If you think Biden is bad for funding genocide, how can you not see that Trump is infinitely worse? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 04/25/24 8:20:55 AM #32:	Its hard to say since Isreal seems to have more of a hold over our government and most elites in our country then most people think. So this outcome may have been the same regardless of whose in charge. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:980084157] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Its hard to say since Isreal seems to have more of a hold over our government and most elites in our country then most people think. So this outcome may have been the same regardless of whose in charge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rosstin316 04/25/24 8:23:30 AM #33:	Most of us are doing the same thing we did in 2020, voting against Trump. If Joe Biden were in a coma and literally did nothing the next 4 years, hed still be a better president than Donald Trump. --- [This signature is viewable with an active GameFAQs Gold subscription.] <cite>Rosstin316 posted [p:980084182] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Most of us are doing the same thing we did in 2020, voting against Trump. If Joe Biden were in a coma and literally did nothing the next 4 years, hed still be a better president than Donald Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flaming_Fire619 04/25/24 8:24:33 AM #34:	Prismsblade posted... Its hard to say since Isreal seems to have more of a hold over our government and most elites in our country then most people think. So this outcome may have been the same regardless of whose in charge. It 100% would be. Republicans are the party of Israel because they're still gripped by the evangelicals that believe Israel as a nation has to exist in order for the Endtimes to happen. They need Israel for the Book of Revelations to come true, so they'd be pushing if not even more so for Israel to just run wild. If you think Republicans would sign off sanctions against West Bank colonizers, then you are just looking for same thing, both sides. --- Not changing until Shelton Benjamin wins the WHC Started: Jan. 10. 2009 http://myanimelist.net/profile/fantheflames <cite>Flaming_Fire619 posted [p:980084195] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite><quote>Its hard to say since Isreal seems to have more of a hold over our government and most elites in our country then most people think. So this outcome may have been the same regardless of whose in charge.</quote>It 100% would be. Republicans are the party of Israel because they're still gripped by the evangelicals that believe Israel as a nation has to exist in order for the Endtimes to happen. They need Israel for the Book of Revelations to come true, so they'd be pushing if not even more so for Israel to just run wild. If you think Republicans would sign off sanctions against West Bank colonizers, then you are just looking for same thing, both sides. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 04/25/24 8:24:52 AM #35:	cjsdowg posted... I have been warned for calling Republicans for what they are. The fact that you call me a Trumper before saying Biden choice to fund a genocide and attack people who speak out could cost him votes and is his fault answers my question. Actually that line wasn't based on this topic. Fuzzily in my mind I have ??? For you in that regards and don't remember why. If you are as you say I note it and will see if future posts corroborate it. Are you by chance someone who says "both sides?" <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980084196] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>I have been warned for calling Republicans for what they are. The fact that you call me a Trumper before saying Biden choice to fund a genocide and attack people who speak out could cost him votes and is his fault answers my question.</quote> Actually that line wasn't based on this topic. Fuzzily in my mind I have ??? For you in that regards and don't remember why. If you are as you say I note it and will see if future posts corroborate it.Are you by chance someone who says "both sides?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 04/25/24 8:31:59 AM #36:	WingsOfGood posted... Actually that line wasn't based on this topic. Fuzzily in my mind I have ??? For you in that regards and don't remember why. If you are as you say I note it and will see if future posts corroborate it. Are you by chance someone who says "both sides?" He was leaning left until that topic broke his brain, and now all he can do is make bad faith topics about Genocide Joe. --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 64GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide <cite>bluezero posted [p:980084263] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Actually that line wasn't based on this topic. Fuzzily in my mind I have ??? For you in that regards and don't remember why. If you are as you say I note it and will see if future posts corroborate it.Are you by chance someone who says "both sides?"</quote>He was leaning left until that topic broke his brain, and now all he can do is make bad faith topics about Genocide Joe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/25/24 8:43:49 AM #37:	Evening_Dragon posted... Tc just straight up dodges anything he can't handle lmao What did I dodge. I asked a simple question about Biden and most ate not addressing that. So tell me what did dodge? --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980084369] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite><quote>Tc just straight up dodges anything he can't handle lmao</quote>What did I dodge. I asked a simple question about Biden and most ate not addressing that. So tell me what did dodge? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/25/24 8:47:35 AM #38:	bluezero posted... He was leaning left until that topic broke his brain, and now all he can do is make bad faith topics about Genocide Joe. I have made a large about of topics about many things from not calling people fat to ai having a hard time with some types of characters. This was rare topic I make about Biden. Where a asked a simple question. Does bear any responsibility for his actions of funding a genocide. Like it so funny I am getting hassled for that question. Should be yes or no. This ain't about Trump. This is about Biden. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980084409] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite><quote>He was leaning left until that topic broke his brain, and now all he can do is make bad faith topics about Genocide Joe.</quote>I have made a large about of topics about many things from not calling people fat to ai having a hard time with some types of characters. This was rare topic I make about Biden. Where a asked a simple question. Does bear any responsibility for his actions of funding a genocide. Like it so funny I am getting hassled for that question. Should be yes or no. This ain't about Trump. This is about Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 04/25/24 8:49:34 AM #39:	bluezero posted... He was leaning left until that topic broke his brain, and now all he can do is make bad faith topics about Genocide Joe. If he is a leftist I apologize cause honestly not sure why but in my memory seems I asked to myself "is this user a Trumper?" before so I wasn't sure, and don't recall what topic do that. But this shows also two things 1. Biden should listen 2. The right has an "in" to grab ahold of that can work on left leaners and that is scary 3. Russia will notice and hire trolls to make this debate even worse (but at least they can't make new CEman accounts!!) <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980084428] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite><quote>He was leaning left until that topic broke his brain, and now all he can do is make bad faith topics about Genocide Joe.</quote>If he is a leftist I apologize cause honestly not sure why but in my memory seems I asked to myself "is this user a Trumper?" before so I wasn't sure, and don't recall what topic do that.But this shows also two things1. Biden should listen2. The right has an "in" to grab ahold of that can work on left leaners and that is scary3. Russia will notice and hire trolls to make this debate even worse (but at least they can't make new CEman accounts!!)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 04/25/24 8:53:13 AM #40:	Flaming_Fire619 posted... It 100% would be. Republicans are the party of Israel because they're still gripped by the evangelicals that believe Israel as a nation has to exist in order for the Endtimes to happen. They need Israel for the Book of Revelations to come true, so they'd be pushing if not even more so for Israel to just run wild. If you think Republicans would sign off sanctions against West Bank colonizers, then you are just looking for same thing, both sides. Historically yes, but I personally dont believe that anymore after these current events. You can call it both sides pandering if you want but the amount of support theyre receiving everywhere here despite the controversy and it putting the election at risk..isnt normal. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:980084459] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Flaming_Fire619 posted... </cite><quote>It 100% would be. Republicans are the party of Israel because they're still gripped by the evangelicals that believe Israel as a nation has to exist in order for the Endtimes to happen. They need Israel for the Book of Revelations to come true, so they'd be pushing if not even more so for Israel to just run wild. If you think Republicans would sign off sanctions against West Bank colonizers, then you are just looking for same thing, both sides.</quote>Historically yes, but I personally dont believe that anymore after these current events. You can call it both sides pandering if you want but the amount of support theyre receiving everywhere here despite the controversy and it putting the election at risk..isnt normal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReiRei89 04/25/24 8:53:45 AM #41:	Rika_Furude posted... If you dont vote for Biden, and trump wins, you dont get to blame anyone but yourself. You are responsible for your choices. You dont get to absolve yourself of responsibility for allowing Trump to win knowing full well what he wants to do to women, minorities, and Palestine. --- FGO US:973,940,202 JP:410,404,215 Resident Europa fangirl <cite>ReiRei89 posted [p:980084463] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>If you dont vote for Biden, and trump wins, you dont get to blame anyone but yourself. You are responsible for your choices. You dont get to absolve yourself of responsibility for allowing Trump to win knowing full well what he wants to do to women, minorities, and Palestine.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 04/25/24 8:55:05 AM #42:	Sure, I guess. Ultimately it's up to people to weigh and assess what they believe their vote does --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:980084477] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Sure, I guess. Ultimately it's up to people to weigh and assess what they believe their vote does </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nekrodev 04/25/24 8:56:04 AM #43:	also, Biden bears probably more responsibility than a lot of our politicians, because he's been in this game for a long time and consistently supporting Israel the whole time - but Biden is definitely not the only one. Like, you can virch all you want about how people need to vote for Biden, but that doesn't make the problems go away. --- "To be, or not to be - there is no such question. To be! But to be what...?" FFBE friend ID - 432.640.287 - nekrodev <cite>nekrodev posted [p:980084491] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>also, Biden bears probably more responsibility than a lot of our politicians, because he's been in this game for a long time and consistently supporting Israel the whole time - but Biden is definitely not the only one. Like, you can virch all you want about how people need to vote for Biden, but that doesn't make the problems go away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 04/25/24 8:57:03 AM #44:	The GOP's Big Lie tactics are that persuasive to the ignorant. Republicans howl how Democrats are "too slow" at progress, while glossing over how regularly Republicans vote in unison against progressive bills. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:980084498] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>The GOP's Big Lie tactics are that persuasive to the ignorant. Republicans howl how Democrats are "too slow" at progress, while glossing over how regularly Republicans vote in unison against progressive bills. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 04/25/24 8:57:33 AM #45:	nekrodev posted... Absolutely. So much of our political machine has been "gotta vote for this guy cuz you DEFINITELY don't want the other guy" for so long. None of the candidates we get are actually running on stuff that would be good for us, it's just harm reduction. This is the false. The Democrats have an actual policy agenda and have been working towards large parts of it during this administration. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:980084502] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>nekrodev posted... </cite><quote>Absolutely. So much of our political machine has been "gotta vote for this guy cuz you DEFINITELY don't want the other guy" for so long. None of the candidates we get are actually running on stuff that would be good for us, it's just harm reduction.</quote>This is the false. The Democrats have an actual policy agenda and have been working towards large parts of it during this administration. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/25/24 8:58:34 AM #46:	Joe Biden's actions and policies are more influential than any posts on CE by several orders of magnitude, and he should consider carefully their impact on potential voters' enthusiasm for his reelection. Imo --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:980084509] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Joe Biden's actions and policies are more influential than any posts on CE by several orders of magnitude, and he should consider carefully their impact on potential voters' enthusiasm for his reelection. Imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 04/25/24 8:59:28 AM #47:	Post #12 Direct answer to your questions, and a question for you --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:980084522] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Post #12Direct answer to your questions, and a question for you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 04/25/24 9:00:36 AM #48:	Which of the two candidates is going to less damage to the country? --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:980084535] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Which of the two candidates is going to less damage to the country? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 04/25/24 9:00:47 AM #49:	Every "Genocide JOE!!!!" person refuses to acknowledge that Trump is worse in every way (INCLUDING the Israel situation). It's the most virtue signalling-y virtue signalling imaginable --- he/him/his <cite>Euripides posted [p:980084539] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>Every "Genocide JOE!!!!" person refuses to acknowledge that Trump is worse in every way (INCLUDING the Israel situation).It's the most virtue signalling-y virtue signalling imaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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