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CyborgSage00x0
04/11/24 6:55:38 PM
#201:


darkace77450 posted...
So, by their reasoning, a Republican or Democratic politician may only be tried by a registered Independent judge. That's how asinine their reasoning is.
The irony is, they aren't wrong, and bias as such COULD happen in the judiciary.

It's just, as usual, it comes from the GOP (re: Cannon, SC, etc.).

Just how like in-person voter fraud, while insanely rare, is committed by a Republican 99% of the time.

Just endless projection.

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CableZL
04/11/24 10:47:23 PM
#202:


https://Twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1778588853030236179?s=46

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jefffan
04/11/24 10:51:31 PM
#203:


Rats....ships

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UltimateWing
04/11/24 10:53:07 PM
#204:


https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1778609077767323833

This is pretty funny.

Edit: If it doesnt play embedded, try this link.

https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1778606585478058335

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/11/24 10:59:49 PM
#205:


UltimateWing posted...
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1778609077767323833

This is pretty funny.

Edit: If it doesnt play embedded, try this link.

https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1778606585478058335



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Cemith
04/11/24 11:01:23 PM
#206:


It's true I'll never fucking understand why aged yellow is the choice he made for the color he put all over his face.

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CSCA33
04/11/24 11:04:35 PM
#207:


UltimateWing posted...
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1778609077767323833

This is pretty funny.

Edit: If it doesnt play embedded, try this link.

https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1778606585478058335
Lmfao

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Irony
04/11/24 11:07:07 PM
#208:


UltimateWing posted...
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1778609077767323833

This is pretty funny.

Edit: If it doesnt play embedded, try this link.

https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1778606585478058335
Oh man this kills me

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FearlessMango
04/11/24 11:16:38 PM
#209:


murrica posted...
So that's a conflict of interest, but being the judge for the case of a guy who made you a judge isn't?
because she was randomly assigned to be the judge for that case

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UltimateWing
04/11/24 11:20:02 PM
#210:


https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1778614068901036386

Longer clip of Lawrence ODonnell just destroying Trump and his pink ears.

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GTA1984
04/12/24 3:06:58 AM
#211:


Here is the entire segment:
https://youtu.be/YFqMPrzn5kE?si=HrRnZAoKCTj9AaR-

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UltimateWing
04/12/24 4:07:39 AM
#212:


GTA1984 posted...
Here is the entire segment:
https://youtu.be/YFqMPrzn5kE?si=HrRnZAoKCTj9AaR-

Thanks. The whole thing was great.

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GTA1984
04/12/24 4:11:08 AM
#213:


UltimateWing posted...
So, the trial is every weekday except for Wednesdays. Haha. Trump has to be there on jury selection too. Too bad.

https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1778465358967365794

Here is how a day will go. Trump will likely have to be at the courthouse sometime between 8-8:45 and will be expected to be in place at the courthouse ready for trial at 9. When the trial starts for the day, in front of him and around him will be people he hates. You of course have Judge Merchan as well as Alvin Bragg and his legal team. In addition he is going to have to sit there and hear people testifying against him some of which are people he hates. This will go on until sometime between 11:30 and 1. At that point he will get a 90 minute break for lunch. After the break he is back in the courtroom until 4-5 just sitting there with people he hates all around him.

Now there is no doubt that going into the courthouse, during the lunch break, and at the end of the day he will rant and rave to the press. However for about 7 hours a day he is going to be in a situation where the only audience he gets are the ones in the courtroom. It is not televised or streamed so there is no audience at home he can pander to and use for his campaign. The only pictures of him sitting in court will be courtesy of drawings by a sketch artist.

Once the day is over his reward is knowing he has to be back in the same situation again and again until the jury reaches a verdict.

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tremain07
04/12/24 4:41:05 AM
#214:


Okay, it looks like Trump's fake ass bond may be denied and the countdown to taking his shit could resume and that he's going to have to sit and spin in misery as people talk about how bad he is in bed in the coming weeks

So, what's the DEM that's gonna swoop in and buy him some time again? I don't wanna get my hopes up again

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CableZL
04/12/24 9:56:37 AM
#215:


https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1778768648884064262

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Alucard188
04/12/24 10:10:31 AM
#216:


tremain07 posted...
Okay, it looks like Trump's fake ass bond may be denied and the countdown to taking his shit could resume and that he's going to have to sit and spin in misery as people talk about how bad he is in bed in the coming weeks

So, what's the DEM that's gonna swoop in and buy him some time again? I don't wanna get my hopes up again

Waiting to see on this bit of info.

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darkace77450
04/12/24 1:29:35 PM
#217:


GTA1984 posted...
Here is how a day will go. Trump will likely have to be at the courthouse sometime between 8-8:45 and will be expected to be in place at the courthouse ready for trial at 9. When the trial starts for the day, in front of him and around him will be people he hates. You of course have Judge Merchan as well as Alvin Bragg and his legal team. In addition he is going to have to sit there and hear people testifying against him some of which are people he hates. This will go on until sometime between 11:30 and 1. At that point he will get a 90 minute break for lunch. After the break he is back in the courtroom until 4-5 just sitting there with people he hates all around him.

Now there is no doubt that going into the courthouse, during the lunch break, and at the end of the day he will rant and rave to the press. However for about 7 hours a day he is going to be in a situation where the only audience he gets are the ones in the courtroom. It is not televised or streamed so there is no audience at home he can pander to and use for his campaign. The only pictures of him sitting in court will be courtesy of drawings by a sketch artist.

Once the day is over his reward is knowing he has to be back in the same situation again and again until the jury reaches a verdict.

He won't last three days before his outbursts start interrupting the trial. He'll be daring the judge to throw him in jail. Hopefully Merchan obliges.
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teep_
04/12/24 1:33:41 PM
#218:


darkace77450 posted...
He won't last three days before his outbursts start interrupting the trial. He'll be daring the judge to throw him in jail. Hopefully Merchan obliges.
While I absolutely believe he should suffer consequences, I also worry about how that will affect/galvanise his fanbase

Not in a "don't throw him in jail" way, but in a "this is what will happen when we do and we need to protect the necessary institutions" way

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ThePieReborn
04/12/24 2:14:13 PM
#219:


teep_ posted...
While I absolutely believe he should suffer consequences, I also worry about how that will affect/galvanise his fanbase

Not in a "don't throw him in jail" way, but in a "this is what will happen when we do and we need to protect the necessary institutions" way
Same boat.

And I hesitate to say "Do it, motherfucker," because (1) I recognize that my ass will almost certainly not be in the line of fire and (2) I find "ends justify the means" thinking to be reprehensible.

But disease can't be allowed to fester any more than it has already. And that's what this all boils down to: a bunch of sick, selfish individuals who would rather burn everything down and rule over the ashes before ever losing their unearned "status."

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CableZL
04/12/24 3:05:26 PM
#220:


Monday, it is, then? I'm still holding onto some skepticism for some delay to kick in in the 11th hour, but... seems like Trump will be in court on Monday morning.

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UltimateWing
04/12/24 3:23:47 PM
#221:


CableZL posted...
Monday, it is, then? I'm still holding onto some skepticism for some delay to kick in in the 11th hour, but... seems like Trump will be in court on Monday morning.

What could delay the trial at this point? Security is ready. If he pulls the Im not feeling well card, I will shake my head on that excuse.


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AlphaWhelp
04/12/24 3:54:45 PM
#222:


I'd love for him to say he's too sick to be at court. I'd grant the motion immediately as judge because I know his dumb ass would be seen on live TV later that day obviously doing fine and I'd hold him in contempt. Alternatively if he's so committed to that lie where no one sees or hears from him for the whole trial, I consider that a win as well.

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ArchonKnight
04/12/24 4:03:04 PM
#223:


Shin splints, works everytime.

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Amakusa
04/12/24 4:27:42 PM
#224:


AlphaWhelp posted...
I'd love for him to say he's too sick to be at court. I'd grant the motion immediately as judge because I know his dumb ass would be seen on live TV later that day obviously doing fine and I'd hold him in contempt. Alternatively if he's so committed to that lie where no one sees or hears from him for the whole trial, I consider that a win as well.
This didn't work for Michael Jackson (he was dragged to court in his pajamas) and I can't imagine it working for Trump.

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Shadow_Don
04/12/24 4:31:12 PM
#225:


UltimateWing posted...
https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1778614068901036386

Longer clip of Lawrence ODonnell just destroying Trump and his pink ears.

Yea his show is worth watching especially when it comes to Trump. He destroys trump like that almost every night.

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CableZL
04/12/24 4:35:58 PM
#226:


https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1778861602546073778

I've been wondering about what they were going to recommend for the 3%ers. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers got the big headlines the whole time, but the 3%ers were involved, too.

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AlphaWhelp
04/12/24 4:51:02 PM
#228:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

These guys are being charged like they were acting alone. Like if one singular dude trespassed on capitol hill and vandalized / stole shit, I can see 8 years being reasonable.

No one is actually being sentenced like the treasonous attackers who took part in a failed coup that they are.

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DrizztLink
04/12/24 4:52:46 PM
#229:


AlphaWhelp posted...
These guys are being charged like they were acting alone. Like if one singular dude trespassed on capitol hill and vandalized / stole shit, I can see 8 years being reasonable.

No one is actually being sentenced like the treasonous attackers who took part in a failed coup that they are.
RICO isn't precisely the correct avenue but imagine if they actually came down on them like an organized criminal ring.

Well, kind of organized.

Okay, a rabble of idiots with a hazy general endgame in mind.

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AlphaWhelp
04/12/24 4:55:27 PM
#230:


DrizztLink posted...
RICO isn't precisely the correct avenue but imagine if they actually came down on them like an organized criminal ring.

Well, kind of organized.

Okay, a rabble of idiots with a hazy general endgame in mind.

It's hard to get RICO charges in most cases because you have to prove that there's an actual organization, with Georgia being a notorious exception.

In this case however, THEY LITERALLY ADVERTISE THEMSELVES AS AN ORGANIZATION.

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ScazarMeltex
04/12/24 4:56:17 PM
#231:


AlphaWhelp posted...
These guys are being charged like they were acting alone. Like if one singular dude trespassed on capitol hill and vandalized / stole shit, I can see 8 years being reasonable.

No one is actually being sentenced like the treasonous attackers who took part in a failed coup that they are.
The reason for that is the Feds don't have a good track record when it comes to trying to prosecute groups for things like sedition. The Fort Smith sedition trial is a good example why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Smith_sedition_trial

So instead they treat them and their crimes as individuals. Which gives us bullshit like this.

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CableZL
04/12/24 6:22:55 PM
#232:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1778903984746480090

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ReiRei89
04/12/24 6:46:14 PM
#233:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1778903984746480090
Lol fat fuck loses again.

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EPR-radar
04/12/24 7:02:50 PM
#234:


teep_ posted...
While I absolutely believe he should suffer consequences, I also worry about how that will affect/galvanise his fanbase

Not in a "don't throw him in jail" way, but in a "this is what will happen when we do and we need to protect the necessary institutions" way
Let them come.

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EPR-radar
04/12/24 7:05:18 PM
#235:


DrizztLink posted...
RICO isn't precisely the correct avenue but imagine if they actually came down on them like an organized criminal ring.

Well, kind of organized.

Okay, a rabble of idiots with a hazy general endgame in mind.
The proper target for the mother of all RICO cases is the Republican party, including its funding and propaganda.

But nobody will ever dare to act on the obvious here.

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UltimateWing
04/12/24 7:11:25 PM
#236:


See you in court first thing Monday, Orange.

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CableZL
04/12/24 7:35:38 PM
#237:


https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1778929591803171033

This is something I hadn't even considered... capitol police officers having to give walkthroughs of the capitol to defense attorneys for January 6th defendants. I hope they're dealing with the mental aspects of that well.

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BewmHedshot
04/12/24 9:51:39 PM
#238:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1778929591803171033

This is something I hadn't even considered... capitol police officers having to give walkthroughs of the capitol to defense attorneys for January 6th defendants. I hope they're dealing with the mental aspects of that well.
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GTA1984
04/13/24 1:53:00 PM
#239:


https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-threatens-reaction-to-pending-sham-trial-fundraising-email-72-hours-until-all-hell-breaks-loose/

Trump sent out this fundraising email yesterday and maybe it is just me but it has vibes of the stuff that led up to January 6th. While in theory it is supposed to be an encouragement for his base to send money it feels more like a call for them to repeat January 6th, this time at the Manhattan court house. Yes he does mention peaceful twice but I think that is more of an attempt to save himself from legal issues than anything else.

72 hours until all hell breaks loose! Now is the time to help me save America and chip in

Friend, on Monday, my sham trial in New York begins.They want me in prison...

If we fail to have a massive outpouring of peaceful patriotic support right here, right now all Hell will break loose. Stand with Trump...

Theyll start to say supporters like you have given up on me but I know that's not true. My supporters are the greatest people in the history of this country...

Now its time for ALL of us to send the Democrats, the media, and the Globalist Deep State a message theyll never forget. Before the day is over, Im calling on one-million pro-Trump patriots to chip in and say, I'll never give up on President Trump. Stand with Trump.

Remember, the only thing standing between freedom & the total obliteration of our country... So from the bottom of my heart, Im asking for you to peacefully stand by my side just one more time. Stand with Trump...

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Cemith
04/13/24 1:57:46 PM
#240:


I mean he is right. I DO want to see him in prison.

Everything else is hogwash though.

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mystic_belmont
04/13/24 1:58:34 PM
#241:


He did break the law, I do want him in prison.

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CADE_FOSTER
04/13/24 1:59:49 PM
#242:


mystic_belmont posted...
He did break the law, I do want him in prison.
Chances that happens tho is like less than 1% sadly
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GranAures
04/13/24 2:33:17 PM
#243:


GTA1984 posted...
Remember, the only thing standing between freedom & the total obliteration of our country...
Is seeing his fat ass beaten and barred from running ever again.

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Kradek
04/13/24 2:37:16 PM
#244:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1778903984746480090

"I'm trying to turn my case into a horse and pony show to everybody who will listen to me and because of that there's no way we can have this case go forward due to its publicity"

Man, the shit this dude tries to pass off as "logic".

Truly shameful that tens of millions of people in this country legitimately look up to and respect this shit-for-brains.

ThePieReborn posted...
Same boat.

And I hesitate to say "Do it, motherfucker," because (1) I recognize that my ass will almost certainly not be in the line of fire and (2) I find "ends justify the means" thinking to be reprehensible.

But disease can't be allowed to fester any more than it has already. And that's what this all boils down to: a bunch of sick, selfish individuals who would rather burn everything down and rule over the ashes before ever losing their unearned "status."

Domestic terrorists will be domestic terrorists regardless because that's their desire and our nation is not supposed to be one that kowtows to terrorism.

I've also heard it logic'd out that it's better for them to commit smaller and isolated terrorism throughout the year as opposed to one large & overwhelming push such as Jan 6th.The more of them that are in the ground or behind bars the less there will be for the next Jan 6th.

Having said that, yes, I also recognize I will not be one of the targets so I do try to refrain from encouraging them to do this because others will get hurt and die, however I think it's inevitable because right-wing media & politician's stochastic terrorist messaging has made this the norm and they are only driving these people deeper into insantiy.

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GTA1984
04/13/24 2:39:44 PM
#245:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
Chances that happens tho is like less than 1% sadly

Certainly with the Manhattan trial, jail isn't impossible but it is improbable. While it does have prison as an option New York tends to give slaps on the wrist for stuff like this. The only things that will weigh on the sentencing is the crimes and prior convictions. You have a victimless crime that resulted in the lowest of level felonies. He hasn't ever been convicted of a crime. Civil judgements won't count and neither will unresolved charges i.e. D.C, Mar-a-Lago, and the Rico case.

My prediction is he gets a fine and couple of years of probation. I know people will be upset if this is the outcome of the Manhattan case but they shouldn't be. Anyone else would get similar punishment.

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Takuya_Lee
04/13/24 2:43:51 PM
#246:


GTA1984 posted...
Certainly with the Manhattan trial, jail isn't impossible but it is improbable. While it does have prison as an option New York tends to give slaps on the wrist for stuff like this. The only things that will weigh on the sentencing is the crimes and prior convictions. You have a victimless crime that resulted in the lowest of level felonies. He hasn't ever been convicted of a crime. Civil judgements won't count and neither will unresolved charges i.e. D.C, Mar-a-Lago, and the Rico case.

My prediction is he gets a fine and couple of years of probation. I know people will be upset if this is the outcome of the Manhattan case but they shouldn't be. Anyone else would get similar punishment.

I disagree solely because of 45 and his mouth. He's going to talk himself into a jail cell somehow.

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King_Rial
04/13/24 2:50:04 PM
#247:


Takuya_Lee posted...
I disagree solely because of 45 and his mouth. He's going to talk himself into a jail cell somehow.
I don't think sentencing guidelines will take that into account.

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divot1338
04/13/24 3:24:04 PM
#248:


King_Rial posted...
I don't think sentencing guidelines will take that into account.
This is an election fraud trial not some kind of financial mismanagement.

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Takuya_Lee
04/13/24 3:25:55 PM
#249:


King_Rial posted...
I don't think sentencing guidelines will take that into account.

The just dhr had discretion to sentence him to anything in the guidelines.

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darkace77450
04/13/24 4:01:05 PM
#250:


GTA1984 posted...
Certainly with the Manhattan trial, jail isn't impossible but it is improbable. While it does have prison as an option New York tends to give slaps on the wrist for stuff like this. The only things that will weigh on the sentencing is the crimes and prior convictions. You have a victimless crime that resulted in the lowest of level felonies. He hasn't ever been convicted of a crime. Civil judgements won't count and neither will unresolved charges i.e. D.C, Mar-a-Lago, and the Rico case.

My prediction is he gets a fine and couple of years of probation. I know people will be upset if this is the outcome of the Manhattan case but they shouldn't be. Anyone else would get similar punishment.

Yours is a reasonable take and I'd be inclined to agree with it no questions asked if Cohen hadn't already served a prison sentence for the same crime.
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