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MacArrowny
03/11/24 7:19:47 PM
#201:


Guys, everyone is different. There's no point fighting about which mode is better

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UshiromiyaEva
03/11/24 7:21:12 PM
#202:


That's what TV shows and movies are SUPPOSED to look like. They look like ass at higher frame rates. That's why people give things like Soap Operas and The Hobbit movies so much shit (in addition to...many other reasons), and why "going to your parent's house for Thanksgiving and they have motion smoothing turned on" is such a meme.

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Waluigi1
03/11/24 7:27:00 PM
#203:


Shattered posted...
TV shows are shot in 24-30 FPS. Live sports are usually 30 FPS. But I never hear people complain about shitty FPS when watching TV shows and demand 60 FPS
Ok you gotta just be trolling lol

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BK_Sheikah00
03/11/24 7:28:35 PM
#204:


foolm0r0n posted...
How do you do it with Cloud/Tifa?
Cloud has abilities like triple slash on aerial enemies. You can also dodge and press square to shoot projectiles, or dodge and hold square to get him airborne. He also has synergy skills with Barret and Red for ranged attacks.

Tifa's synergy skills are all about party members throwing her in the air whenever and she can stay in the air attacking for a while. Reverse Gale from the ground also works on some enemies.

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foolm0r0n
03/11/24 7:41:35 PM
#205:


skullbone posted...
With Cloud you need to roll, then hold attack and he'll fly up into the air with them.
wtf I never would've figured that out

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FoolFantastic
03/11/24 7:46:16 PM
#206:


They say it when you first use him in combat, well before you would have a need to be airborne.

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Waluigi1
03/11/24 7:56:10 PM
#207:


Wow Fort Condor is really frustrating...

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Pirateking2000
03/11/24 7:58:19 PM
#208:


Waluigi1 posted...
Wow Fort Condor is really frustrating...

The Warlock one is the main pain but otherwise its just sitting until the enemy shows up and then summoning your guys at that point to build up Tifa. Then once you turn the tide just pop Tifa's haste and zerg lol.

A big game changer for me was realizing that ballistas were a thing I completely missed. 1-2 of those lined up properly and a healer or two accompanying the attack force is great

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foolm0r0n
03/11/24 7:59:59 PM
#209:


The time limit is so stupid. Like they knew it was a super easy game strategically, so they had to add artificial difficulty into it.

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Waluigi1
03/11/24 8:07:47 PM
#210:


Pirateking2000 posted...
The Warlock one is the main pain but otherwise its just sitting until the enemy shows up and then summoning your guys at that point to build up Tifa. Then once you turn the tide just pop Tifa's haste and zerg lol.
Idk what any of that means <_<
Like you can activate abilities on the hero units?

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KommunistKoala
03/11/24 9:23:04 PM
#211:


Are we talking about some hard version of Fort Condor? I didnt have any issues with any of them, the hero units just wipe out all the enemies where you summon them and they win the game

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paperwarior
03/11/24 9:25:10 PM
#212:


There is a hard version of Fort Condor, but apparently it's also affected by Dynamic Difficulty. Which seems like a black box other than theoretically being harder that Normal.

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KommunistKoala
03/11/24 9:40:11 PM
#213:


Also, I can't get over how ugly they've made Moogles

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UshiromiyaEva
03/11/24 9:43:21 PM
#214:


It's the worst one they've ever done.

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JackMan
03/11/24 9:47:02 PM
#215:


I struggled with some of the hard Fort Condor maps until I realised you just need to wait a little at the beginning to start dispatching units, so that you're fighting them in your half of the map. Also, most of the time, your condors can defend themselves fine, so just focus on one lane and maybe spawn a unit or two to distract them if necessary. I think I did most of them with the offensive-focused team.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/11/24 9:57:31 PM
#216:


Yuffie left a very bad first impression but she was pretty damn fun after that, but she's becoming intolerable again for a completely different reason.

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KamikazePotato
03/11/24 9:58:54 PM
#217:


KommunistKoala posted...
Also, I can't get over how ugly they've made Moogles
Apparently we were forewarned

https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/171bcsx/what_have_they_done_to_him/

Would've had to play Crisis Core Reunion to see it coming though

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JackMan
03/11/24 10:03:25 PM
#218:


There was a moogle in Remake, y'know.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/09e3119a.jpg

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UshiromiyaEva
03/11/24 10:03:55 PM
#219:


It didn't warn us about the Sonic Teeth.

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MacArrowny
03/11/24 10:31:11 PM
#220:


KommunistKoala posted...
Also, I can't get over how ugly they've made Moogles
They look like koalas

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GANON1025
03/11/24 10:43:29 PM
#221:


Oh no Tifa and Aeriths relationship bars are tied, will this be a problem for the gold saucer date?? Ive been roaming the Corel region since opening it up, if that matters

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Waluigi1
03/11/24 11:35:55 PM
#222:


So what do you do about the enemy base doing the desperation type move that insta ko's all your units? I'm on the third fight, I had both Tifa and Barret, plus 5 or 6 units attacking the base and it just wiped them all out, and then did it again with the next group I summoned immediately afterwards.

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GANON1025
03/11/24 11:46:25 PM
#223:


For that I started using trebuchets since they can hit the final base without being in range of that attack

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_stingers_
03/11/24 11:46:43 PM
#224:


The warlock boss changes type between ranged/Melee/defense depending on what you have out. So you need to be ready to build new units to counter him as soon as he switches forms

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Waluigi1
03/11/24 11:58:33 PM
#225:


Alright, time to give it another go

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UshiromiyaEva
03/12/24 12:04:37 AM
#226:


GANON1025 posted...
Oh no Tifa and Aeriths relationship bars are tied, will this be a problem for the gold saucer date?? Ive been roaming the Corel region since opening it up, if that matters.

Real Gold Saucer date is dozens of hours away.

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BK_Sheikah00
03/12/24 12:14:06 AM
#227:


The hangout in Chapter 8 is in fact also affected by relationship levels, even though it's not the real date.

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skullbone
03/12/24 12:15:09 AM
#228:


I have a feeling there are little tiebreakers like the first game.

Whoever you pick to help in the beach fight probably has an impact but IDK

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MartinFF7
03/12/24 1:12:43 AM
#229:


GANON1025 posted...
Oh no Tifa and Aeriths relationship bars are tied

where can you see this during the game? the only indicator I knew of was the colour-coded smiley faces, is there something more concrete indicated elsewhere/should I have poked around in the menu? or did you mean the smiley faces...
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UshiromiyaEva
03/12/24 2:01:57 AM
#230:


Queen's Blood

DEFEATED

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UshiromiyaEva
03/12/24 2:32:39 AM
#231:


Moment of truth.

https://i.ibb.co/jDdKBLT/20240312-023151.jpg

YESSSSSSS

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UshiromiyaEva
03/12/24 3:08:13 AM
#232:


"If you do have feelings for someone, tell 'em straight out."

I'm TRYING Barrett!!

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GANON1025
03/12/24 7:13:57 AM
#233:


MartinFF7 posted...
where can you see this during the game? the only indicator I knew of was the colour-coded smiley faces, is there something more concrete indicated elsewhere/should I have poked around in the menu? or did you mean the smiley faces...

I do indeed mean the smiley faces

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red13n
03/12/24 8:12:42 AM
#234:


Game beat.

Very much enjoyed.

Though I'm still bitter that the point of no return was actually before the warning for the point of no return. Will have to go back for some side content.

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_stingers_
03/12/24 9:10:50 AM
#235:


That would make me bitter too why would they bother having a point of no return if it's not accurate

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BK_Sheikah00
03/12/24 9:37:31 AM
#236:


I am confused. The game tells you "Land here? You will not be able to return after landing" and it's true. Unless you specifically mean you're locked out of cait sith without warning, then yeah.

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foolm0r0n
03/12/24 11:58:11 AM
#237:


The airship looks impressive af. I think I see where this game is going.

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YoBlazer
03/12/24 12:11:10 PM
#238:


After exploring much of Cosmo Canyon (the funnest region in the game thus far), I have something new to which I need to lavish praise: the game creates two completely different desert regions. I feel like deserts are a hard ONE AND DONE rule in most games because they're not as pretty as forests or beaches, but FFVII once again doubles down on the things that make it unique.

Cosmo Canyon is majestic Utah desert with the soul of Sedona, Arizona. Corel and the Dust Bowl is trash ass Vegas (especially with The Gold Saucer/The Vegas Strip smack dab in the middle). Beatifully done.

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XIII_Rocks
03/12/24 1:01:45 PM
#239:


Sheiran looks at Barret and says "that's one frightening looking appendage you've got there" and my childish brain can't stop me from laughing

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mccheyne
03/12/24 3:55:29 PM
#240:


Still feel like something in the combat isnt clicking for me. Those 2 ermidunks in the grasslands gave me issues, and then Chadleys combat sim with them and the 2 rats in round 3 nearly killed me.

Loving the game though, taking my time through it. If every chapter has a map like this one, Ill be here a while

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YoBlazer
03/12/24 4:03:26 PM
#241:


I feel like the focus on traditional RPG combat elements (casting, resource management for multiple characters) often causes me to forget that there's a very powerful parry mechanic with perfect blocks. There are battles where I'll make it a point to hit just one perfect block at the start, and the difference is night and day for the rest of the fight.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/12/24 7:31:03 PM
#242:


https://twitter.com/VinesauceClips/status/1767439898028511406?t=XP-MLRkZiAPyB-Lp988r5g&s=19

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MacArrowny
03/12/24 7:33:45 PM
#243:


damn the English voice acting is so bad

complete embarrassment compared to 16

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red13n
03/12/24 7:43:49 PM
#244:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
I am confused. The game tells you "Land here? You will not be able to return after landing" and it's true. Unless you specifically mean you're locked out of cait sith without warning, then yeah.
Yep, that.

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GANON1025
03/12/24 7:47:28 PM
#245:


MacArrowny posted...
damn the English voice acting is so bad

complete embarrassment compared to 16

What? FF7 Remake/Rebirth has an awesome english cast

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UshiromiyaEva
03/12/24 7:51:48 PM
#246:


MacArrowny posted...
damn the English voice acting is so bad

complete embarrassment compared to 16

It's a mixed bag. I think there are a lot of good voice actors here, but maybe the directing isn't great?

I think it's wild that Cloud is doing what he is, I guess people are used to it now but he just sounds so bored all the time.

For most of the cast, it's a common issue with mediocre dub direction that even when the VAs are good, a lot of characters don't sound like they're talking to each other a lot of the time. Barrett's is really good and manages to avoid this, so does Red XIII. But, like....Tifa and Aerith only have one mode, all the time. The characters don't pull off emotion well. I have 2 chapters left, but this was a problem in Remake as well and I don't expect it to change.

It stands out way more without Jessie being around all the time, since Erica Lindbeck is one of the best VAs in the industry and she was far and away the best performance in Remake.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/12/24 8:06:54 PM
#247:


Oh my God.

I just realized that they've SEVERELY cut down on Grunt Fantasy VII. I wasn't even thinking about it this whole time. Did they actually get really self conscious about it??

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Zigzagoon
03/12/24 8:09:26 PM
#248:


Cait VA still incredible

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KamikazePotato
03/12/24 8:21:34 PM
#249:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I think it's wild that Cloud is doing what he is, I guess people are used to it now but he just sounds so bored all the time.
Cloud's voice seems like a good representation of a mentally-damaged introvert who is trying to act cool. I think the VA pulls it off way better than most could have.

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Waluigi1
03/12/24 8:34:31 PM
#250:


GANON1025 posted...
What? FF7 Remake/Rebirth has an awesome english cast
Mostly agreed. They're not super incredible or anything, but to call it "so bad" and "a complete embarrassment" is absurd

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