Board 8 > Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Review Zone 2 (mark spoilers)

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YoBlazer 03/20/24 4:00:54 PM #451:	I'm still in my initial playthrough and had a "oh shit" moment when I realized Synergy could be paired with Comet, wondering if I just found the code to nuke the game. However, it's such a slow spell that I'm not sure if it's any better than something like Thunder. --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:979472351] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I'm still in my initial playthrough and had a "oh shit" moment when I realized Synergy could be paired with Comet, wondering if I just found the code to nuke the game. However, it's such a slow spell that I'm not sure if it's any better than something like Thunder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CassandraCain 03/20/24 4:51:22 PM #452:	And it's a crapshoot whether the comets actually hit anything. It looks incredible, but it also fills the screen with chaos making it more difficult to see what your enemies are doing. I assume it's more useful on bigger enemies. Regardless it's still one of my favorite setups just because it's a damn cool spell. --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. <cite>CassandraCain posted [p:979473183] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>And it's a crapshoot whether the comets actually hit anything.It looks incredible, but it also fills the screen with chaos making it more difficult to see what your enemies are doing.I assume it's more useful on bigger enemies. Regardless it's still one of my favorite setups just because it's a damn cool spell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/20/24 9:10:03 PM #453:	Next generation pubic hair rendering --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:979477625] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Next generation pubic hair rendering </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer 03/20/24 10:36:31 PM #454:	I'm in the middle of the final ~~boss rush~~ and it feels like they're absolutely shitting themselves across the finish line here. --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:979478979] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I'm in the middle of the final boss rush and it feels like they're absolutely shitting themselves across the finish line here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoBlazer 03/21/24 2:55:39 AM #455:	Wow, I can't recall a case of a masterpiece falling apart at the end quite that much. What a disappointing final chapter. --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:979481451] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Wow, I can't recall a case of a masterpiece falling apart at the end quite that much. What a disappointing final chapter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 3:32:36 AM #456:	https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1770658332069822952?t=EhJtGRYqsVwTP2LFnj6nvQ&s=1 -Adjusts camera reverse settings with Chocobo glide LOLOL --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979481639] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1770658332069822952?t=EhJtGRYqsVwTP2LFnj6nvQ&s=1<quote>-Adjusts camera reverse settings with Chocobo glide</quote>LOLOL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 03/21/24 3:36:49 AM #457:	ADDED difficulty for those minigames? good lord... btw if anyone doesn't know, there's a glitch (at least I think it's a glitch) where sitting on cushions still restore your MP in Hard Mode. Just waiting (fearing) for a patch to patch that out!! YoBlazer posted... Wow, I can't recall a case of a masterpiece falling apart at the end quite that much. What a disappointing final chapter. yeah that was me at post #122, I feel like our thoughts will overlap, not sure if it's the broader consensus or not though. <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:979481664] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>ADDED difficulty for those minigames? good lord...btw if anyone doesn't know, there's a glitch (at least I think it's a glitch) where sitting on cushions still restore your MP in Hard Mode. Just waiting (fearing) for a patch to patch that out!!YoBlazer posted... </cite><quote>Wow, I can't recall a case of a masterpiece falling apart at the end quite that much. What a disappointing final chapter.</quote>yeah that was me at post #122, I feel like our thoughts will overlap, not sure if it's the broader consensus or not though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 3:41:13 AM #458:	It's certainly my thoughts! Even as someone who didn't have a problem with Remake's ending, this one's is a big oomf. But probably best saved for the actual spoilers topic post I made. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979481693] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>It's certainly my thoughts! Even as someone who didn't have a problem with Remake's ending, this one's is a big oomf.But probably best saved for the actual spoilers topic post I made. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CassandraCain 03/21/24 4:26:42 AM #459:	UshiromiyaEva posted... -Adjusts camera reverse settings with Chocobo glide Heck yes I have no more complaints --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. <cite>CassandraCain posted [p:979481970] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite><quote>-Adjusts camera reverse settings with Chocobo glide</quote>Heck yesI have no more complaints </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/21/24 9:55:05 AM #461:	Kinda excited for the ending now. Also excited for the update. I guess that's why my game loaded from the start screen this morning instead of continuing from sleep. Sharp Performance mode sounds interesting. Maybe less TAA? I thought the game used TAA super well already, certainly better than any recent AAA game I can think of. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:979484641] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Kinda excited for the ending now.Also excited for the update. I guess that's why my game loaded from the start screen this morning instead of continuing from sleep. Sharp Performance mode sounds interesting. Maybe less TAA? I thought the game used TAA super well already, certainly better than any recent AAA game I can think of. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BK_Sheikah00 03/21/24 10:58:32 AM #462:	YoBlazer posted... Wow, I can't recall a case of a masterpiece falling apart at the end quite that much. What a disappointing final chapter. My only issue with the final Chapter is ~~Zack.~~ And I have no problems with the gameplay of the final boss rush, but I am also someone that ~~would swap party constantly throughout the game and had everyone with decent builds. I know some people for example didn't bother giving stuff back to Cait, or they unequipped Aerith.~~ --- Congrats to azuarc for winning GOTD2 http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png <cite>BK_Sheikah00 posted [p:979485514] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>YoBlazer posted... </cite><quote>Wow, I can't recall a case of a masterpiece falling apart at the end quite that much. What a disappointing final chapter.</quote>My only issue with the final Chapter is Zack. And I have no problems with the gameplay of the final boss rush, but I am also someone that would swap party constantly throughout the game and had everyone with decent builds. I know some people for example didn't bother giving stuff back to Cait, or they unequipped Aerith. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 03/21/24 11:23:53 AM #463:	Looking forward to re-running a Remake vs Rebirth poll after everyone has had time to get to the ending! --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:979485902] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Looking forward to re-running a Remake vs Rebirth poll after everyone has had time to get to the ending! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 03/21/24 11:35:36 AM #464:	It'll be hard to surpass the weakness of Remake's ending, but I'll see how I feel when I get there. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:979486113] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>It'll be hard to surpass the weakness of Remake's ending, but I'll see how I feel when I get there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 11:37:51 AM #465:	Ahahahaaaaaa --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979486150] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Ahahahaaaaaa </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FoolFantastic 03/21/24 11:44:40 AM #466:	There are times in this game where it feels like it forgets its own mechanics, with the ~~very final fight with Cloud and Aerith~~ being the worst offender. It's specifically two elements - first is Heartless Angel. I'm conceptually fine with a 'reduce everyone to 1 HP' move, but the fact it is unavoidable essentially forces you to horde ATB charges. You have to respond immediately, and if you happen to have an auto-whatever materia on Aerith she is going to waste her ATB (was there a way to edit this during just that fight? Because no way was I restarting the entire ending sequence. They gave this option during the Zack segment but I saw nothing for this part). So I spent most of the fight with Cloud at full charge, too afraid to use any move lest Sephiroth get off an undodgeable all-but-1-HP attack (I was unfortunately low on team-targeting health items so I needed both charges). Which, all of this would be fine if it was broken apart from the other fights, but it feels like the whole thing is set up around a specific materia setup that you would have no reason to expect ahead of time. Then is the final super attack he does which ends in an instant ko if you don't kill him in time. It's total RNG nonsense - he doesn't appear to enter it at any set point. One time I had him already all but staggered from the previous phase, but that actually screwed me over because his instant ko goes off after he recovers. I only managed to get through this phase because I got lucky enough to have him hit the lowest HP possible before he enters the state after 10+ attempts. It's insane to end the game on a timed sequence but where the parameters of that sequence are incredibly variable. And it's so freaking long, with an unskippable cutscene right before it. It's 2024 and they're still doing unskippable cutscenes? So it ends up being an entirely ordinary fight except for two specific moves that completely screw you over if Sephiroth uses them at a bad time. It never comes off as a hard fight but a cheap one. It's been a few days and I still feel like it's among the worst boss fights I've ever encountered. Just a failure from every angle - tedious, unengaging, cheap, and not even giving you a meaningful way to take a break. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ <cite>FoolFantastic posted [p:979486276] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>There are times in this game where it feels like it forgets its own mechanics, with the very final fight with Cloud and Aerith being the worst offender. It's specifically two elements - first is Heartless Angel. I'm conceptually fine with a 'reduce everyone to 1 HP' move, but the fact it is unavoidable essentially forces you to horde ATB charges. You have to respond immediately, and if you happen to have an auto-whatever materia on Aerith she is going to waste her ATB (was there a way to edit this during just that fight? Because no way was I restarting the entire ending sequence. They gave this option during the Zack segment but I saw nothing for this part). So I spent most of the fight with Cloud at full charge, too afraid to use any move lest Sephiroth get off an undodgeable all-but-1-HP attack (I was unfortunately low on team-targeting health items so I needed both charges). Which, all of this would be fine if it was broken apart from the other fights, but it feels like the whole thing is set up around a specific materia setup that you would have no reason to expect ahead of time.Then is the final super attack he does which ends in an instant ko if you don't kill him in time. It's total RNG nonsense - he doesn't appear to enter it at any set point. One time I had him already all but staggered from the previous phase, but that actually screwed me over because his instant ko goes off after he recovers. I only managed to get through this phase because I got lucky enough to have him hit the lowest HP possible before he enters the state after 10+ attempts. It's insane to end the game on a timed sequence but where the parameters of that sequence are incredibly variable.And it's so freaking long, with an unskippable cutscene right before it. It's 2024 and they're still doing unskippable cutscenes? So it ends up being an entirely ordinary fight except for two specific moves that completely screw you over if Sephiroth uses them at a bad time. It never comes off as a hard fight but a cheap one.It's been a few days and I still feel like it's among the worst boss fights I've ever encountered. Just a failure from every angle - tedious, unengaging, cheap, and not even giving you a meaningful way to take a break. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/21/24 12:43:31 PM #467:	As long as the ending isn't another series of 7 minigames culminating in a dance battle against Sephiroth, I'll be happy --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:979487238] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>As long as the ending isn't another series of 7 minigames culminating in a dance battle against Sephiroth, I'll be happy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 03/21/24 12:47:10 PM #468:	No one tell him. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:979487300] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>No one tell him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 12:48:03 PM #469:	I would prefer the Honeybee dance battle to be the final boss fight unironically. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979487316] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I would prefer the Honeybee dance battle to be the final boss fight unironically. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 03/21/24 12:53:17 PM #470:	UshiromiyaEva posted... I would prefer the Honeybee dance battle to be the final boss fight unironically. ~~Cloud's got sick moves from the party animal side quest. I think he could take him!~~ --- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:979487413] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite><quote>I would prefer the Honeybee dance battle to be the final boss fight unironically.</quote>Cloud's got sick moves from the party animal side quest. I think he could take him! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 03/21/24 12:56:50 PM #471:	UshiromiyaEva posted... I would prefer the Honeybee dance battle to be the final boss fight unironically. Not sure what this post means. Most people consider the Honeybee dance battle the best scene in Remake, right? --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:979487472] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite><quote>I would prefer the Honeybee dance battle to be the final boss fight unironically.</quote>Not sure what this post means. Most people consider the Honeybee dance battle the best scene in Remake, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 1:00:51 PM #472:	I agree, I love it! Which is why I would have had a better gameplay experience with that than doing the actual final boss fight in Rebirth. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979487524] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I agree, I love it! Which is why I would have had a better gameplay experience with that than doing the actual final boss fight in Rebirth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/21/24 1:03:25 PM #473:	MacArrowny posted... Most people consider the Honeybee dance battle the best scene in Remake, right? Yes. Although the gameplay itself is pretty bad. Which is why the much lamer dance scenes in this game, which spend more time on the gameplay, are so much worse in comparison. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:979487561] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>Most people consider the Honeybee dance battle the best scene in Remake, right?</quote>Yes. Although the gameplay itself is pretty bad.Which is why the much lamer dance scenes in this game, which spend more time on the gameplay, are so much worse in comparison. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BK_Sheikah00 03/21/24 1:03:49 PM #474:	The point is that would also apply if Rebirth final boss is so good that only Honeybee inn is better. Cus I agree Wall Market is the peak of both games. --- Congrats to azuarc for winning GOTD2 http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png <cite>BK_Sheikah00 posted [p:979487569] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>The point is that would also apply if Rebirth final boss is so good that only Honeybee inn is better. Cus I agree Wall Market is the peak of both games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 1:06:48 PM #475:	I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if the game just gave up and said "yeah this stuff fucking blows" and it cut the last chunk and replaced it with a Somnium Files dance number ending, the actual game narrative on the whole would be better for it. This isn't just a final boss thing, the last dungeon is super boring. It's a solid 5 hours of junk across the finish line. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979487620] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if the game just gave up and said "yeah this stuff fucking blows" and it cut the last chunk and replaced it with a Somnium Files dance number ending, the actual game narrative on the whole would be better for it. This isn't just a final boss thing, the last dungeon is super boring. It's a solid 5 hours of junk across the finish line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BK_Sheikah00 03/21/24 1:19:22 PM #476:	Yeah, jrpgs love making their final dungeons so fucking long. Hojo's lab in Remake also had complaints. At least in Rebirth ~~the mural part~~ was done really well. --- Congrats to azuarc for winning GOTD2 http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png <cite>BK_Sheikah00 posted [p:979487823] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, jrpgs love making their final dungeons so fucking long. Hojo's lab in Remake also had complaints.At least in Rebirth the mural part was done really well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 1:22:45 PM #477:	That part was cool! This isn't a Rebirth only thing, the number of jRPGs with good final dungeons is probably less than 20%. Most of my favorite jRPGs have bad final dungeons. Tales of Zesteria is a steaming pile of shit, but God bless it's clean ending chunk. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979487864] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>That part was cool!This isn't a Rebirth only thing, the number of jRPGs with good final dungeons is probably less than 20%. Most of my favorite jRPGs have bad final dungeons.Tales of Zesteria is a steaming pile of shit, but God bless it's clean ending chunk. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 03/21/24 1:23:09 PM #478:	~~Maybe not so~~ Hot take: FF hasn't done a good final dungeon since VI. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:979487871] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Maybe not so Hot take: FF hasn't done a good final dungeon since VI. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 1:26:19 PM #479:	kevwaffles posted... ~~Maybe not so~~ Hot take: FF hasn't done a good final dungeon since VI. FFXII did ~~because it didn't have one.~~ Also assuming XIV doesn't count because every final dungeon in those is an absolute banger, but obviously that's not the same thing....NO WAIT CASTRUM I DONT MEAN YOU DONT SEND ME BACK TO THE ROULETTE --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979487912] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>kevwaffles posted... </cite><quote>Maybe not so Hot take: FF hasn't done a good final dungeon since VI.</quote>FFXII did because it didn't have one.Also assuming XIV doesn't count because every final dungeon in those is an absolute banger, but obviously that's not the same thing....NO WAIT CASTRUM I DONT MEAN YOU DONT SEND ME BACK TO THE ROULETTE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 03/21/24 1:26:34 PM #480:	Shoutout to Tales of Berseria, another fantastic RPG with a long/bad final dungeon --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:979487917] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Shoutout to Tales of Berseria, another fantastic RPG with a long/bad final dungeon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 03/21/24 1:28:08 PM #481:	FF8's final dungeon is cool. I don't think there's anything wrong with 9's either. Original 7's is fine, neither bad nor great. KamikazePotato posted... Shoutout to Tales of Berseria, another fantastic RPG with a long/bad final dungeon Berseria and Arise both have worse final dungeons than any FF imo (note that I haven't played FF3 or finished Rebirth). --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:979487937] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>FF8's final dungeon is cool.I don't think there's anything wrong with 9's either. Original 7's is fine, neither bad nor great.KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Shoutout to Tales of Berseria, another fantastic RPG with a long/bad final dungeon</quote>Berseria and Arise both have worse final dungeons than any FF imo (note that I haven't played FF3 or finished Rebirth). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 03/21/24 1:28:55 PM #482:	I've "beaten" Berseria 4 times, by which I mean 3 of those times I got to the final dungeon and started over the next time I played. One of the worst. Even the music is going too hard, it sounds like a battle theme playing during the entire dungeon. Arise is at least straightforward, even if it's kind numbingly long and boring. Berseria's is both but also extremely confusing. Again, fucking wild that Zesteria, the game nobody should ever play, got it so right. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:979487945] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I've "beaten" Berseria 4 times, by which I mean 3 of those times I got to the final dungeon and started over the next time I played.One of the worst. Even the music is going too hard, it sounds like a battle theme playing during the entire dungeon.Arise is at least straightforward, even if it's kind numbingly long and boring. Berseria's is both but also extremely confusing.Again, fucking wild that Zesteria, the game nobody should ever play, got it so right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BK_Sheikah00 03/21/24 1:29:25 PM #483:	I sure use Zero Encounters every time on FF8's --- Congrats to azuarc for winning GOTD2 http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png <cite>BK_Sheikah00 posted [p:979487954] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I sure use Zero Encounters every time on FF8's </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 03/21/24 1:29:48 PM #484:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Also assuming XIV doesn't count XIV must do a lot right but I'll never know. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:979487959] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite><quote>Also assuming XIV doesn't count</quote>XIV must do a lot right but I'll never know. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 03/21/24 1:34:09 PM #485:	The thing about FF14 is that it's forced to keep all its dungeons at roughly the same length for gameplay purposes. Which means gameplay bloat for dungeons (a.k.a. a bunch of trash puzzles) just doesn't happen...anymore. Final dungeons in FF14 are just the gameplay you already like plus great cutscenes. Thats all you need. It should not be that complicated. Another shoutout: Crosscode's final dungeon puzzle was the most absurd thing I've ever seen and almost made me quit. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:979488021] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>The thing about FF14 is that it's forced to keep all its dungeons at roughly the same length for gameplay purposes. Which means gameplay bloat for dungeons (a.k.a. a bunch of trash puzzles) just doesn't happen...anymore. Final dungeons in FF14 are just the gameplay you already like plus great cutscenes.Thats all you need. It should not be that complicated.Another shoutout: Crosscode's final dungeon puzzle was the most absurd thing I've ever seen and almost made me quit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/21/24 1:58:31 PM #486:	I loved all of Crosscode's puzzles including the final. Zelda nerds btfo by a game with actual puzzles. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:979488407] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I loved all of Crosscode's puzzles including the final. Zelda nerds btfo by a game with actual puzzles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skullbone 03/21/24 2:05:16 PM #487:	Wow some of these fights you unlock after beating the game are hard AF. I'm not really sure how to keep getting stronger either since I'm already max level. I guess I could max out my stat boosting materia but I'm not even sure it would help that much. There's a Cloud 1 on 1 fight against a white wolf and it does 3000 damage with an AOE attack and then follow up with 4-5 fireballs each doing 1500 damage each too. It also feels like you're doing pitiful damage in these fights. --- skull <cite>skullbone posted [p:979488518] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Wow some of these fights you unlock after beating the game are hard AF. I'm not really sure how to keep getting stronger either since I'm already max level. I guess I could max out my stat boosting materia but I'm not even sure it would help that much. There's a Cloud 1 on 1 fight against a white wolf and it does 3000 damage with an AOE attack and then follow up with 4-5 fireballs each doing 1500 damage each too. It also feels like you're doing pitiful damage in these fights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 03/21/24 2:06:28 PM #488:	Immediate thought would be Elemental Fire on armor? <cite>wg64Z posted [p:979488541] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Immediate thought would be Elemental Fire on armor?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skullbone 03/21/24 2:09:29 PM #489:	I mean yeah that's fight 2 of 5 though so IDK how brutal the last 3 fights are as well. I beat all of the protorelic fights on dynamic first try so I think I'm pretty good at the combat but the numbers in these post game fights are just rough. --- skull <cite>skullbone posted [p:979488592] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I mean yeah that's fight 2 of 5 though so IDK how brutal the last 3 fights are as well. I beat all of the protorelic fights on dynamic first try so I think I'm pretty good at the combat but the numbers in these post game fights are just rough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CassandraCain 03/21/24 2:43:31 PM #490:	You get two elemental materia, if you attach one to the fire and ice materia and one to the lightning and wind, you'll be healed by every elemental attack. Not sure how much that helps, I haven't tried it myself. Couldn't even beat Zolomy on hard mode =/ --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. <cite>CassandraCain posted [p:979489154] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>You get two elemental materia, if you attach one to the fire and ice materia and one to the lightning and wind, you'll be healed by every elemental attack.Not sure how much that helps, I haven't tried it myself. Couldn't even beat Zolomy on hard mode =/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 03/21/24 2:48:00 PM #491:	There are three of them. I put them with an AP Up right away because I recalled how crucial they were in Remake on hard and with superbosses. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:979489245] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>There are three of them. I put them with an AP Up right away because I recalled how crucial they were in Remake on hard and with superbosses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer 03/21/24 3:27:25 PM #492:	BK_Sheikah00 posted... Cus I agree Wall Market is the peak of both games. Wall Market is peak gaming, one of the best sequences in any game imo Anyway, I'm gonna need to find the spoiler topic and gather my thoughts because BOY HOWDY do I want to discuss that ending. My immediate reaction to the 120 hours I just plowed in would be something along the lines of "Michael Jordan just had one of the greatest regular seasons in history, winning a unanimous MVP and carrying the Bulls to an easy 1-seed in the playoffs. They dominated on their way to the finals, a sure lock to win it all. They are up 3-0 in the finals, looking to sweep and end the season as one of the most dominant teams in history. Jordan then inexplicably quits to try his hand at Nascar, the Bulls lose the next four games and the series, and fans around the world are wondering what IN THE FUCK WAS THAT." --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:979489993] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>BK_Sheikah00 posted... </cite><quote>Cus I agree Wall Market is the peak of both games.</quote>Wall Market is peak gaming, one of the best sequences in any game imoAnyway, I'm gonna need to find the spoiler topic and gather my thoughts because BOY HOWDY do I want to discuss that ending. My immediate reaction to the 120 hours I just plowed in would be something along the lines of "Michael Jordan just had one of the greatest regular seasons in history, winning a unanimous MVP and carrying the Bulls to an easy 1-seed in the playoffs. They dominated on their way to the finals, a sure lock to win it all. They are up 3-0 in the finals, looking to sweep and end the season as one of the most dominant teams in history. Jordan then inexplicably quits to try his hand at Nascar, the Bulls lose the next four games and the series, and fans around the world are wondering what IN THE FUCK WAS THAT." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CassandraCain 03/21/24 3:28:26 PM #493:	ctesjbuvf posted... There are three of them Well you have to beat a brutal challenge for the third but yeah, if you can get the third one even better. I too attached them to AP Up the moment I got them. Since I knew I'd want them maxed out before the endgame. Which didn't happen, had to grind for AP afterward. --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. <cite>CassandraCain posted [p:979490010] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>There are three of them</quote>Well you have to beat a brutal challenge for the third but yeah, if you can get the third one even better.I too attached them to AP Up the moment I got them. Since I knew I'd want them maxed out before the endgame. Which didn't happen, had to grind for AP afterward. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer 03/21/24 3:32:00 PM #494:	I attached my Elementals to AP Up to get them to 2 stars ASAP, but then I started actually using them. The 7500 AP grind to hit 3 stars was just too daunting before NG+. Speaking of which, is there a known Chadley challenge that allows for easy AP farming? One of the best things about Interlude is that it offered just such a challenge, allowing you to level up most Materia in minutes. --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:979490077] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>I attached my Elementals to AP Up to get them to 2 stars ASAP, but then I started actually using them. The 7500 AP grind to hit 3 stars was just too daunting before NG+. Speaking of which, is there a known Chadley challenge that allows for easy AP farming? One of the best things about Interlude is that it offered just such a challenge, allowing you to level up most Materia in minutes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 03/21/24 4:16:58 PM #495:	Damn this Shinra Queen's Blade player in Nibelheim is hilarious. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:979490913] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>Damn this Shinra Queen's Blade player in Nibelheim is hilarious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 03/21/24 5:52:22 PM #496:	UshiromiyaEva posted... FFXII did FFXII did have a super duper long final dungeon. ~~Not having the final boss doesn't make it not the final dungeon!~~ --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:979492615] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite><quote>FFXII did</quote>FFXII did have a super duper long final dungeon. Not having the final boss doesn't make it not the final dungeon! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllHeDoesIsWin 03/22/24 5:22:58 PM #497:	So I'm right at the end of Chapter 12. I'm still planning on doing The last quest The last Protorelic thing Maaaaybe the pirate thing Main quest obviously How much time would you say I have left? Trying to budget my time this week and don't want to end up in a situation where I need to leave in the middle of something. --- RappinHobo's alt until he gets bored with this one, deletes it, and uses another alt <cite>AllHeDoesIsWin posted [p:979510168] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>So I'm right at the end of Chapter 12. I'm still planning on doingThe last questThe last Protorelic thingMaaaaybe the pirate thingMain quest obviouslyHow much time would you say I have left? Trying to budget my time this week and don't want to end up in a situation where I need to leave in the middle of something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CassandraCain 03/22/24 5:31:07 PM #498:	The last chapter alone will take you around 5 hours to complete. The other stuff could add at least a few more on top of that. I'd say in total you're looking at 10-15 more hours? --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. <cite>CassandraCain posted [p:979510279] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>The last chapter alone will take you around 5 hours to complete. The other stuff could add at least a few more on top of that.I'd say in total you're looking at 10-15 more hours? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_stingers_ 03/22/24 5:45:04 PM #499:	date --- Congrats Black Turtle! <cite>_stingers_ posted [p:979510517] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>date </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_stingers_ 03/22/24 5:45:06 PM #500:	tifa --- Congrats Black Turtle! <cite>_stingers_ posted [p:979510518] in Final Fant... [t:80715022]...</cite> <quote>tifa </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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