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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 1:20:06 PM #1: |
https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/player-decline In the six months since it launched, Starfield, Bethesda's long-awaited space RPG, has seen its Steam player count drop by over 300,000
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Turbam 02/12/24 1:20:19 PM #2: |
Starflop
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SpiritSephiroth 02/12/24 1:20:29 PM #3: |
It just works.
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C_Pain 02/12/24 1:21:42 PM #4: |
I still don't know anything about the game or even what it looks like. It's about Agent Star Field trying to save the Star Field galaxy from the Death Star Field one assumes?
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s0nicfan 02/12/24 1:22:20 PM #5: |
The worst part about Starfield totally cratering is that rather than take this as a massive lesson learned, I'd be worried that instead they're fast tracking elder scrolls 6 development so they can get another big title out sooner to help with their stock price.
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Vyrulisse 02/12/24 1:22:23 PM #6: |
Flopfield
Still doesn't have the mod tools released. The insane delay absolutely kneecapped Fallout 4's modding community and they are doing the same with Starfield. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 02/12/24 1:23:09 PM #7: |
I wonder if fans are finally just fed up with Bethesdas glitchy, low effort and terrible products. To the point now that they arent even funny anymore.
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Doe 02/12/24 1:23:32 PM #8: |
No way was Starfield six months ago. July?
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Smackems 02/12/24 1:24:18 PM #9: |
Soullessness kinda killed it for me
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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 1:25:35 PM #10: |
Doe posted... No way was Starfield six months ago. July? feel old yet? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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epik_fail1 02/12/24 1:27:17 PM #11: |
Can someone who played it tell me why it's "bad"
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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 1:28:38 PM #12: |
epik_fail1 posted... Can someone who played it tell me why it's "bad" it isn't bad it is just not exactly as they advertised and for some people that means it is more bait and switch feely and not worth the price of AAA game or the hype ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 02/12/24 1:28:50 PM #13: |
epik_fail1 posted...
Can someone who played it tell me why it's "bad"That's the tragedy of Starfield. It's not really "bad" it's just... a game. It's boring and soulless even by Bethesda standards. It's like they tried to make the most drab and uninteresting universe they could imagine. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 02/12/24 1:30:17 PM #14: |
epik_fail1 posted...
Can someone who played it tell me why it's "bad"It isn't bad. It's decently fun to play. The exploration is meh besides a few cool things here and there. Wide as an ocean deep as a puddle --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 02/12/24 1:30:55 PM #15: |
When Skyrim came out, I told myself "if I have any willpower at all, I won't buy this game." Obviously I did, and wasted thousand of hours of my life on it.
When Fallout 4 came out, I told myself "if I have any willpower at all, I won't buy this game." Obviously I did, and wasted thousands of hours of my life on it. When Starfield came out, I...didn't spare a whole lot of thought over it. So props to it for finally breaking my Bethesda gaming addiction, I guess. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 1:32:18 PM #16: |
masterpug53 posted... When Skyrim came out, I told myself "if I have any willpower at all, I won't buy this game." Obviously I did, and wasted thousand of hours of my life on it. lesson learned you have 0 willpower? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 02/12/24 1:32:42 PM #17: |
It is just mediocre and as if they didnt realise they needed to improve on 'skyrim in space' to keep people's interest.
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Atralis 02/12/24 1:33:12 PM #18: |
I didn't hate Starfield but it did feel like it needed something more and left me feeling me a bit unsatisfied at the end. Maybe with DLC, mods, and patches it will feel a bit better. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaldrenthebold 02/12/24 1:33:35 PM #19: |
Bethesda has been going down since Fallout 4. I don't like that one too much, 76 speaks for itself and now Starfield.
I actually don't think Skyrim is that good either, but I'm in the minority on that. Bethesda is peak "wide as an ocean deep as a puddle". They have been since Oblivion. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CRON 02/12/24 1:35:10 PM #20: |
epik_fail1 posted...
Can someone who played it tell me why it's "bad"It's not a bad game. The best way to describe it would be if a different company tried making "Skyrim in space" back in 2012-2014 and it didn't get released until 2023. It's a 7/10 at best and just fails to deliver on almost everything promised. It lacks the freedom and exploration-driven gameplay of other Bethesda RPGs and has zero charm whatsoever. With the exception of three or four locations almost every moment in the game feels samey and recycled. --- Thanks for reading! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 02/12/24 1:35:35 PM #21: |
WingsOfGood posted...
lesson learned More so nowadays than I did before. For starters, I can now walk past a box of pizza and be repulsed by the idea of devouring the whole thing. Did Starfield's mediocre existence singlehandedly cure my obesity? Sure, why not. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 02/12/24 1:35:40 PM #22: |
WingsOfGood posted...
lesson learnedThey have at least 1 willpower since starfield --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 02/12/24 1:36:44 PM #23: |
They really need to go back to the drawing board with ES6. It needs to be smaller and richer
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voldothegr8 02/12/24 1:37:29 PM #24: |
Turbam posted...
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Mizznox 02/12/24 1:39:39 PM #25: |
I'm curious, how does that compare to typical single player games? I've stopped playing it because... I beat the game. Now, I'm not really interested in a new game+ run because the game was only "okay," but even if it was better I'd still probably be taking a break from it before coming back for that a little ways down the road.
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memukus9684 02/12/24 1:39:45 PM #26: |
epik_fail1 posted...
Can someone who played it tell me why it's "bad"When I played Skyrim and Fallout 4 I enjoyed exploring and finding stuff. In those games point A sends you to do a quest at point B. On the way to point B you find other stuff that keeps you distracted. In Starfield, point A sends you to do a quest at point B. On the way to point B you find nothing but copy pasted caves and outposts that are mostly the same with nothing to do. The outpost system in Starfield is a massive downgrade from the settlement system in Fallout 4. --- It's not the wings at all. Namor has so much contempt for the surface world that he literally repels himself from it. - HouseT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 1:40:55 PM #27: |
Mizznox posted... I'm curious, how does that compare to typical single player games? I've stopped playing it because... I beat the game. Now, I'm not really interested in a new game+ run because the game was only "okay," but even if it was better I'd still probably be taking a break from it before coming back for that a little ways down the road. well the article compared it to Skyrim and said Skyrim has more players so..... By contrast, over 25,000 Steam players are currently playing The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 02/12/24 1:42:55 PM #28: |
Man, remember when Starfield was going to be amazing? It was going to be like if Star Citizen was a game instead of a money farm.
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NoxObscuras 02/12/24 1:52:20 PM #29: |
epik_fail1 posted...
Can someone who played it tell me why it's "bad"It's not a bad game, but Bethesda massively fumbled what could have been an amazing game. The planets you visit for the main story are all great and well done. But the hundreds of other planets are dull and lifeless. Just barren wastelands with a few ore nodes on them. No flora or fauna anywhere, no old buildings/ruins to explore. A few of those planets have 1 cave on them, but then the cave hardly has anything of note either. The ones I went into all had similar layouts with a few hostile turrets, but no other creatures. It really starts to give a "what's the point of exploring when there's nothing to see" vibe for most of the planets. It really would have benefited from less planets with more focus on making them having interesting things on them. And then the space exploration was also massively disappointing. Leaving a planet, undocking from space stations/other ships and traveling to other planets/solar systems? It's all done via menus and cutscenes. So when you hop in your super customizable spaceship, there's hardly any time spent actually controlling it. The only time you're in direct control of it is in the small area in orbit around each planet. If you want to travel to another planet, you can't just fly there (there are invisible walls), you have to fast travel. It makes it all feel very disconnected. I've played indie games that give you more to do in your spaceship than Starfield does. So yeah, far too much wasted potential for a big AAA title. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 02/12/24 1:54:14 PM #30: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Man, remember when Starfield was going to be amazing? It was going to be like if Star Citizen was a game instead of a money farm.I actually believed. I really wanted Skyrim in Space, with imaginative races, civilizations and stories... such a let down they opted for "realism" without even doing that right. The real universe is still incredible with so many weird and amazing things in it but they ignored all of that and it was just drab... --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 02/12/24 1:55:00 PM #31: |
Probably started playing Palworld till the "masses" left that.
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archizzy 02/12/24 1:55:39 PM #32: |
Even if it retained 100% of its player base the fact that it peaked at 330K is quite telling. If it was Elder Scrolls or Fallout, even with bad reviews or word of mouth those numbers would be much higher.
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Westernwolf4 02/12/24 1:56:21 PM #33: |
Mizznox posted...
I'm curious, how does that compare to typical single player games? I've stopped playing it because... I beat the game. Now, I'm not really interested in a new game+ run because the game was only "okay," but even if it was better I'd still probably be taking a break from it before coming back for that a little ways down the road. This is exactly what I am wondering too. I really enjoyed Starfield, but I understand why many dont. And I am finished with it so I dont really care. But..wouldnt the vast majority of single player focused games be expected to have their numbers crater after 4-6 months? Isnt that why so many great studios are making these ill-advised live service games-to keep people hooked on games instead of playing an SP campaign and being done? I think there are a lot of legit criticisms about Starfield (and particularly the marketing of Starfield) out there but: Single player game loses large chunk of player base after passage of time like almost every other single player game seems like a pretty vapid one. I guess it is valid because Bethesda was probably hoping this game would be the next Skyrim. But almost no SP game has that kind of longevity no matter how good it is, and I certainly was not expecting that for Starfield. I --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 02/12/24 1:56:23 PM #34: |
Blargh for a real post. I didn't care about Elder Scrolls in Space from the start. But I'd been down to try a new Morrowind or something.
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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 1:58:12 PM #35: |
Westernwolf4 posted... This is exactly what I am wondering too. I really enjoyed Starfield, but I understand why many dont. And I am finished with it so I dont really care. But..wouldnt the vast majority of single player focused games be expected to have their numbers crater after 4-6 months? I Somehow I doubt you are really wondering that see how.... the article literally compares these numbers to Skyrim!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westernwolf4 02/12/24 2:05:29 PM #36: |
WingsOfGood posted...
Somehow I doubt you are really wondering that see how.... I dont know why I bother to post in your always bad faith, ridiculous topics. You did what you always do when you respond to me-you post the part of my post that gives you the response you want..while conveniently not posting the part where I specifically address the Skyrim numbers in my post. You can agree or disagree, but you could at least respond to what people actually said instead of carving up their posts for whatever effect fits your narrative the best. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 02/12/24 2:07:23 PM #37: |
Also Skyrim became the Doom of modern culture. Put that on everything!!!!! At least the soundtrack still holds up. Thank you Jeremy Soule.
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ellis123 02/12/24 2:07:39 PM #38: |
Westernwolf4 posted...
I dont know why I bother to post in your always bad faith, ridiculous topics.This is less a bad faith topic and more him having a cry because someone pointed out that Palworld has had a massive drop off in players and he needs to make himself feel better. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mizznox 02/12/24 2:07:40 PM #39: |
WingsOfGood posted...
well the article compared it to Skyrim and said Skyrim has more players so.....And Skyrim is one of the most successful games of all-time and a ton of that longevity can be attributed to the mod community (which IIRC hasn't really gotten going in Starfield yet because they haven't made the kits or whatever available). I'm curious about "typical" - what sort of drop-off your average single-player game (even limiting to "AAA" or whatever) sees at this point. Not trying to defend anything (I see you're accusing that other poster of not actually wondering this? lol) - I thought the game was a bit bland and disappointing, and it's clearly not going to have anything remotely like Skyrim's staying power - I just don't find this info to be all that meaningful without more context. --- https://i.imgur.com/qUAL3fG.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 02/12/24 2:09:24 PM #40: |
Skyrim's modding community is actually insane and I doubt anything else will ever come close. Modders there are STILL pumping out insane creations to this day.
Fallout 4 had weird limits on what could be changed and added additional challenges to modding the game as freely as people could with Skyrim and I suspect Starfield will take that even further with limitations. The delay in the toolkit's release will only make the issue worse. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xlr_big-coop 02/12/24 2:09:37 PM #41: |
Based. Hope this sends the right message to the industry. Can't expect people to line up for an empty game nor for modders to do your job. They got time to get their head out of their ass so es6 doesn't suck
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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 2:10:06 PM #42: |
Westernwolf4 posted... I dont know why I bother to post in your always bad faith, ridiculous topics. bad faith? Your very question was answered in the FIRST POST but fine, let's pretend you were legit ignorant....ok Here is Baldur Gate 3 numbers today: 9. Baldur's Gate3 110,064 Here is Elden Ring ELDEN RING 42,703 Basically many games retain 4x more players than Starfield did literally in longer period of time fyi Elden Ring came out Feb 2022 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westernwolf4 02/12/24 2:11:06 PM #43: |
ellis123 posted...
This is less a bad faith topic and more him having a cry because someone pointed out that Palworld has had a massive drop off in players and he needs to make himself feel better. I think it is a topic worth discussing, even if I disagree with it, which is why I posted (and posted without mentioning TC at all). But the arguments advanced by this poster in his threads are never in good faith. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 2:11:51 PM #44: |
ellis123 posted... This is less a bad faith topic and more him having a cry because someone pointed out that Palworld has had a massive drop off in players and he needs to make himself feel better. false this came from some redditor post marked TODAY NEXT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 02/12/24 2:12:37 PM #45: |
Bethesda already got their money so mission accomplished. I was hoping they'd be able to deliver but figured they wouldn't.
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WingsOfGood 02/12/24 2:12:45 PM #46: |
Westernwolf4 posted... I think it is a topic worth discussing, even if I disagree with it, which is why I posted (and posted without mentioning TC at all). But the arguments advanced by this poster in his threads are never in good faith. what arguments? I just shared an article and criticized your "just asking questions".... because the article answered that question.... like what argument am I putting forward?? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cocytus 02/12/24 2:13:50 PM #47: |
Only because it sucks.
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bluezero 02/12/24 2:15:10 PM #48: |
C_Pain posted...
I still don't know anything about the game or even what it looks like. It's about Agent Star Field trying to save the Star Field galaxy from the Death Star Field one assumes?They made Skyrim again --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 64GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 02/12/24 2:15:13 PM #49: |
#47 summed it succinctly.
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