Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 365: Get those Checks in our Balances

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UshiromiyaEva
02/19/21 11:37:20 AM
#302:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1362595095489429505?s=20

I love successful spite based fundraising. Genuine too of course but you know AOC LOVES that she's raining money for Teaxas while Cruz is in the middle of a scandal and doing absolutely nothing.

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xp1337
02/19/21 11:47:09 AM
#303:


I mean, it's basically summed up by this: https://twitter.com/JosephPatrice/status/1362566450205097990

Cruz votes against Hurricane Sandy aid. All NY reps vote for Hurricane Harvey aid.
Cruz flies to Cancun during a crisis in Texas. AOC raises over a million in relief for Texas during the very same crisis.

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Maniac64
02/19/21 12:12:41 PM
#304:


red sox 777 posted...
Not that I disagree with the idea, but it would upend traditional labor law. Uber has no business telling an independent contractor how much they can work - if they put in restrictions on when/how much they can work, that looks a lot like an employer/employee relationship.
I mean WWE gets away with way more than that and has for decades.

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Jakyl25
02/19/21 12:14:40 PM
#305:


UshiromiyaEva posted...


I love successful spite based fundraising. Genuine too of course but you know AOC LOVES that she's raining money for Teaxas while Cruz is in the middle of a scandal and doing absolutely nothing.


Update

https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1362809024480243714?s=21
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Jakyl25
02/19/21 12:24:51 PM
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red sox 777
02/19/21 12:31:49 PM
#307:


Jakyl25 posted...
Idiot Congresskid strikes again

https://twitter.com/repcawthorn/status/1362550236753846275?s=21

In the United States, that's right. I guess he doesn't realize the Vatican is its own country.

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Jakyl25
02/19/21 12:41:48 PM
#308:


CNN has undertaken the very important task of...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/19/health/what-is-simp-teen-slang-wellness/index.html

...informing Boomers about simps
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TheRock1525
02/19/21 12:46:19 PM
#309:


Let's all not forget the REAL victim during this Texas crisis: Ted Cruz.

https://www.newshounds.us/hannity_paints_cancun_ted_cruz_as_a_media_victim_021921

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GuessMyUserName
02/19/21 12:50:58 PM
#310:


Tactics for defusing a tense simp-tuation

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ChaosTonyV4
02/19/21 1:24:14 PM
#311:


https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/1362800416900153344?s=21

Mayor Pete BTFO

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red sox 777
02/19/21 1:27:09 PM
#312:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/1362800416900153344?s=21

Mayor Pete BTFO

So not Hillary then?

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Wanglicious
02/19/21 1:41:41 PM
#313:


when it comes to contractor/employee disputes i still say the king of this is wrestling.
they're all contractors.


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KamikazePotato
02/19/21 2:31:48 PM
#314:


Wait Ted Cruz left his dog behind? What the fuck

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Peace___Frog
02/19/21 2:33:59 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Wait Ted Cruz left his dog behind? What the fuck
Yes, and its name is snowflake

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ChaosTonyV4
02/19/21 2:50:19 PM
#316:


Wait, this was about Ted?

Is he supposed to take his dog to Cancun?

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Jakyl25
02/19/21 2:50:46 PM
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htaeD
02/19/21 3:03:00 PM
#318:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Wait, this was about Ted?

Is he supposed to take his dog to Cancun?


Could have left the dog in a warmer place than a powerless house..
He does have a security guard to feed it, but that just makes me feel bad for that guy.
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Suprak the Stud
02/19/21 4:46:27 PM
#319:


https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/19/politics/joe-manchin-neera-tanden-confirmation-biden/index.html

Neera Tanden isn't getting confirmed.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/19/21 4:47:48 PM
#320:


"Manchin will vote with the democrats when it matters"

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DoomTheGyarados
02/19/21 4:48:53 PM
#321:


Is this when it matters? Tanden is horrible.

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Suprak the Stud
02/19/21 4:50:07 PM
#322:


He cites her attacks on republicans and progressives, but if I had to take a wild stab in the dark he almost certainly cares more about the former than the latter.

In good news house has unveiled its COVID bill. Still $15 minimum wage. Everything looks pretty good. Expected to get to Biden by March 15.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/19/politics/house-covid-minimum-wage-bill/index.html

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Suprak the Stud
02/19/21 4:51:47 PM
#323:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Is this when it matters? Tanden is horrible.

It is worth noting that Sanders was going after her pretty hard too during her confirmation hearings. I think he was planning to confirm her regardless but Tanden was always the nominee most likely to run into trouble, I thought.

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xp1337
02/19/21 4:52:23 PM
#324:


Bleh decision by Manchin but not even #1 on my power rankings of "ugh manchin decisions of the past 24-36 hours"

that spot goes to him meeting activists for a $15 minimum wage and telling them to their faces he opposes it and prefers $11

Gotta pray that it survives the Byrd rule and the parliamentarian because I'm pretty damn sure he won't sink the COVID bill over it but he seems to be making it pretty clear he won't accept it stand-alone.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/19/21 4:53:13 PM
#325:


I will say it would be pretty shitty of Manchin if Bernie votes to confirm and Manchin does not

Otherwise I don't care much either way

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xp1337
02/19/21 4:55:51 PM
#326:


Suprak the Stud posted...
In good news house has unveiled its COVID bill. Still $15 minimum wage.
House was never gonna drop it. The issue is if it survives the Byrd rule in the Senate (that it conforms with the reconciliation requirements that it relates to the budget.)

Biden has said he doesn't think it does (but last I checked has maintained his support for a $15 minimum wage in general, he's just skeptical it can survive reconciliation). I had said beforehand that I don't think the parliamentarian will let it survive. But I know the CBO scored it before which might give it a lifeline and I think that's the angle Sanders is currently taking. Hopefully it works but I would not place money on it. But I want to be wrong.

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Suprak the Stud
02/19/21 4:59:53 PM
#327:




xp1337 posted...
Bleh decision by Manchin but not even #1 on my power rankings of "ugh manchin decisions of the past 24-36 hours"

that spot goes to him meeting activists for a $15 minimum wage and telling them to their faces he opposes it and prefers $11

Gotta pray that it survives the Byrd rule and the parliamentarian because I'm pretty damn sure he won't sink the COVID bill over it but he seems to be making it pretty clear he won't accept it stand-alone.

This is essentially what I'm worried about too. I do not think he torpedoes the entire COVID bill over it as he is for most of the stuff in there and is even for an increase of the minimum wage. But it is also clear that if something happens and it becomes a standalone thing, it is doomed.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
I will say it would be pretty shitty of Manchin if Bernie votes to confirm and Manchin does not

Otherwise I don't care much either way

Yeah if I'm being 100% honest I'm kinda annoyed but mostly apathetic on it? But again, I totally agree that if Sanders basically goes "eh she's fine" then Manchin bringing up how she was mean to progressives seems disingenuous when he's really just voting against her because she was mean to republicans.

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Suprak the Stud
02/19/21 5:02:19 PM
#328:


xp1337 posted...
House was never gonna drop it. The issue is if it survives the Byrd rule in the Senate (that it conforms with the reconciliation requirements that it relates to the budget.)

Biden has said he doesn't think it does (but last I checked has maintained his support for a $15 minimum wage in general, he's just skeptical it can survive reconciliation). I had said beforehand that I don't think the parliamentarian will let it survive. But I know the CBO scored it before which might give it a lifeline and I think that's the angle Sanders is currently taking. Hopefully it works but I would not place money on it. But I want to be wrong.

Sanders has basically indicated he's going to try his damnedest to get it through the process, but I'm not supremely confident he's going to be able to. I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic per se, but I'm kinda like 60-40 on it surviving so I wouldn't be totally shocked if it gets snipped out. We'll see, I dunno.

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Wanglicious
02/19/21 5:06:54 PM
#329:


plenty of reasons to not like tanden, biggest being the millions from corporate america. if mean tweets are the distraction, i'll take it for someone less bought.

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Jakyl25
02/19/21 5:49:36 PM
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LordoftheMorons
02/19/21 5:50:20 PM
#331:


Manchin voted to confirm Jeff Sessions

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Grand Kirby
02/19/21 5:51:01 PM
#332:


People really have the memory of goldfish, huh?

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ChaosTonyV4
02/19/21 6:05:43 PM
#333:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
"Manchin will vote with the democrats when it matters"

lol, this absolutely does not matter at all.

LordoftheMorons posted...
Manchin voted to confirm Jeff Sessions

Neera Tanden sucks that bad

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LordoftheMorons
02/19/21 6:08:37 PM
#334:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Neera Tanden sucks that bad
Yeah making mean (but usually accurate) tweets is pretty much the worst thing something can possibly do

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red sox 777
02/19/21 6:08:48 PM
#335:


Joe Manchin! Yes! Thank you! The last thing we need is another person in high office whose main claim to fame is insulting people on Twitter.

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red sox 777
02/19/21 6:09:48 PM
#336:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Yeah making mean (but usually accurate) tweets is pretty much the worst thing something can possibly do

If the American people wanted more mean tweets they would have reelected the previous president.

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ChaosTonyV4
02/19/21 6:11:16 PM
#337:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Yeah making mean (but usually accurate) tweets is pretty much the worst thing something can possibly do

Setting aside I literally laughed out loud at the but usually accurate part, her tweeting four times more than Trump is not the issue hereshes a bad person.

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LordoftheMorons
02/19/21 6:16:02 PM
#338:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Setting aside I literally laughed out loud at the but usually accurate part, her tweeting four times more than Trump is not the issue hereshes a bad person.
I mean did you think that the tweets about Ted Cruz or whoever that they showcased were unfair?

I disagree that shes a bad person, but even if she was that would be beside the point because the tweets are the cited reason for Manchins opposition which is just ridiculous considering other people hes voted to confirm

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/19/21 6:19:19 PM
#339:


Real talk: I don't actually think they would nominate anyone significantly improved from Tanden if her nomination fails, but I'm still willing to accept the mystery box option here. Let's see how this plays out.

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FFDragon
02/19/21 6:22:11 PM
#340:


https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1362468946583162880

No wonder Cruz bailed to Mexico.

It was way cheaper.

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Leafeon13N
02/19/21 6:26:21 PM
#341:


I'm pretty sure texas energy companies were allowed to raise prices during the emergency.
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Jakyl25
02/19/21 6:27:11 PM
#342:


Leafeon13N posted...
I'm pretty sure texas energy companies were allowed to raise prices during the emergency.


Capitalism rules!
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FFDragon
02/19/21 6:32:59 PM
#343:


Leafeon13N posted...
I'm pretty sure texas energy companies were allowed to raise prices during the emergency.

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1362515223886848003?s=19

eat the rich

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Suprak the Stud
02/19/21 6:37:06 PM
#344:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Setting aside I literally laughed out loud at the but usually accurate part, her tweeting four times more than Trump is not the issue hereshes a bad person.

So what you're saying is...progressive hero Joe Manchin strikes again!

FFDragon posted...
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1362515223886848003?s=19

eat the rich

I wonder if this whole debacle is enough to actually shift Texas blue or at least closer to an actual toss up? I'd say probably not because they'll just find a way to blame the democrats, but if anything might make Texans be normal for even a little bit, it's this.

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Corrik7
02/19/21 6:37:20 PM
#345:


FFDragon posted...
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1362468946583162880

No wonder Cruz bailed to Mexico.

It was way cheaper.
Pretty sure this energy company is one of those ones that sends you advertisements in the mail or people in walmart try to stop you in the store to persuade you to join. Not your normal energy companies.

They offer you low introductory rates, but then afterwards your bill swings with rates. A lot of people end up paying a lot more with these companies, and I personally regard them as scams.

If that is the case, it would be wildly inaccurate to attribute their play in this to energy in general. These companies are basically a bet on no problems occurring.

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Inviso
02/19/21 6:41:25 PM
#346:


Suprak the Stud posted...
So what you're saying is...progressive hero Joe Manchin strikes again!

I wonder if this whole debacle is enough to actually shift Texas blue or at least closer to an actual toss up? I'd say probably not because they'll just find a way to blame the democrats, but if anything might make Texans be normal for even a little bit, it's this.

2021 isn't an election year or a midterm year, so no, no one will remember this by the time it's relevant to vote against the people who caused the problem in the first place.

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Grand Kirby
02/19/21 6:41:46 PM
#347:


Suprak the Stud posted...
I'd say probably not because they'll just find a way to blame the democrats
They're literally blaming democrats for the Texas crisis when it's a Republican-run state. I wonder if that will actually work. It wouldn't surprise me if there are voters who don't even realize who represents them.


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Lightning Strikes
02/19/21 7:10:06 PM
#348:


Jakyl25 posted...
Capitalism rules!

Someone in this very topic series called price freezes communism!

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/19/21 7:15:32 PM
#349:


Suprak the Stud posted...


I wonder if this whole debacle is enough to actually shift Texas blue or at least closer to an actual toss up? I'd say probably not because they'll just find a way to blame the democrats, but if anything might make Texans be normal for even a little bit, it's this.

I mean the Texas GOP is still better organized, control the state government, and will draw the districts, so. It's still on Democrats (the party) to organize an actual fight. Hope they learned from Georgia.

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kevwaffles
02/19/21 7:21:42 PM
#350:


Remember on King of the Hill when Hank was opposed to raising propane prices during a snowstorm? Fiction sure is great sometimes.
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UshiromiyaEva
02/19/21 7:22:55 PM
#351:


If all republicans were like Hank Hill then America would be a nation at peace.

Just make sure you've got a good handshake.

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