Poll of the Day > 27 y/o Country Music Star Soars to #1 AFTER he uses the N-WORD!!!

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mrduckbear
02/04/21 8:34:24 PM
#1:


Do you think it's disgusting his fans continue to support him despite his racism?


2 days after Country Music Star and Former The Voice Contestant, Morgan Wallen used the N-WORD in another scandal, he has SOARED to the tops of the iTunes charts to #1 as his down south fans seem to ignore his racist behaviour and continue to support him!!

This comes despite being dropped by his record label, Universal Music and his representation, WME. He was also barred from being a nominee at the Academy of Country Music and was dropped from several radio stations

A shocking video showed him shouting slurs at friends outside of his trailer trash home where he told them "Take care of this p-word a** n-word"

But despite that, his first album, If i know me, which was #54 skyrocketed to #2 on the charts while his recent album release, Dangerous soared to #1 as fans rally behind the racist

The 27 y/o apologized profusely but faced industry backlash but that didn't stop his label, Big Loud Records and Republic Records to drop him as they said such behaviour will not be tolerated

iHeartMedia, the largest radio station group owner with 855 stations also banned his music as well as Cumulus Media and Entercom

The Tennessee native was also in hot water back in October when he went to a maskless party with fans and was briefly suspended by SNL before being invited back in December as he apologized for that as well

He told TMZ "I used an unacceptable and inapporpriate racial slur that i wish i could take back. There are no excuses to use this tye of language, ever. I want to sincerely apologize for using that word. I promise to do better"

As of now, Spotify, SiriusXM, Pandora and Apple Music don't have his songs in their most popular country music playlists

Do you think it's disgusting that his fans continue to support him despite his racism?.

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Zeus
02/04/21 8:41:22 PM
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I don't think the two things are related, unless the media exposure drove interest in his music.

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Shadowbird_RH
02/04/21 8:46:59 PM
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If they're going to get up in arms about a word used in a country song, then it would be racist not to take equal measure in regard to that word being used in other genres of music.

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TheSlinja
02/04/21 8:51:54 PM
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dont take the bait

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Lokarin
02/04/21 9:01:55 PM
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i kinda wish there were more races... like 30x as many races

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ReturnOfFa
02/04/21 9:07:13 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
If they're going to get up in arms about a word used in a country song, then it would be racist not to take equal measure in regard to that word being used in other genres of music.
a) it wasn't in the song

b) a white person and a black person saying the N-word is different

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Shadowbird_RH
02/04/21 9:13:07 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
b) a white person and a black person saying the N-word is different
How/why? Is it because they tend not to end it with an r sound (motha, brotha, fugga, whateva. It's the same word. Dialect doesn't dictate definition), or is it because one person is black and the other person is white?

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ReturnOfFa
02/04/21 9:26:21 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
How/why? Is it because they tend not to end it with an r sound (motha, brotha, fugga, whateva. It's the same word. Dialect doesn't dictate definition), or is it because one person is black and the other person is white?
Historical context. Your first idea, I consider irrelevant.

You're right, it's the same word. Like any racial slur. It is different when a Chinese person discusses a racial slur against their people in a group than when an English/American/Canadian/Australian white person decides to use that slur. There is an inherently different dynamic, due to historical context.

I'm not saying that a white person can't use racial slurs in a very careful method of discussion (it's not my position to deem what's 'correct' or not, but even Mark Twain parsed differences in what he wrote and what he quoted, when using the N-word), but I'm saying that using them is best avoided in colloquial situations. Most people that I know who jokingly use racial slurs (that are white) with their friends (that are white) seem very desensitized to racial violence that exists.

Me using it jokingly or casually ignores all the people that have been treated to racial hatred since their childhoods - something which I have not endured. A guy I go to school with literally told me a story about them tying up a black kid to goal posts when they were in elementary school. Then they whipped him. He laughed and said that the teachers were crying about it. Great.

The people that support this guy BECAUSE of something like this are...well, I just find it sad.

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wwinterj25
02/04/21 9:59:51 PM
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Controversy creates cash.

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Zeus
02/04/21 10:11:59 PM
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Lokarin posted...
i kinda wish there were more races... like 30x as many races

It's tough living in a world without elves and lizardmen.

ReturnOfFa posted...
b) a white person and a black person saying the N-word is different

*cue laugh track*

Context is irrespective of race.

ReturnOfFa posted...
Historical context.

Maybe you should focus on actual context.

ReturnOfFa posted...
It is different when a Chinese person discusses a racial slur against their people in a group than when an English/American/Canadian/Australian white person decides to use that slur. There is an inherently different dynamic, due to historical context.

That's not historical context, that's ACTUAL context. Discussing a slur and its impact is the same irrespective of race. Deciding to use the slur against an individual or group is the same irrespective of race. The claim that a racial slur isn't racist just because the person is of that race is just so profoundly fucking ignorant that one hardly knows where to begin criticizing the stupidity of that claim. The underlying assumption is that somebody can't be racist against their own race, which is just flat-out wrong and -- since you love bringing up "historical contexts" -- there are PLENTY of historical contexts backing up the idea of people being racist against their own race. Seriously, fucking educate yourself. Even today there are widespread issues where people are racist against their race, including discrimination among blacks based whose skin is lighter or darker.

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Adam_Savage
02/04/21 10:15:01 PM
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there's zeus arguing that that a white person saying the n word in a very clearly racist way isn't racist
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wwinterj25
02/04/21 10:19:34 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
there's zeus arguing that that a white person saying the n word in a very clearly racist way isn't racist
That's not what's actually being said though.

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Zeus
02/04/21 10:19:57 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
there's zeus arguing that that a white person saying the n word in a very clearly racist way isn't racist

That's not what I'm saying at all. But there's an alt making a bullshit claim mischaracterizing what I said.

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EvilMegas
02/04/21 10:36:53 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
How/why? Is it because they tend not to end it with an r sound (motha, brotha, fugga, whateva. It's the same word. Dialect doesn't dictate definition), or is it because one person is black and the other person is white?
So say it. Record yourself and say it.

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EvilMegas
02/04/21 10:41:43 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Controversy creates cash.

Is is? Rappers use it regardless of race. Racists use the word regardless of race too and yes folk of the same race can be racist to each other. It all depends the context on how the word is used but it has no relevance to what race said person who uses it is.
1. Everything you posted is wrong.
2. We already know your stance on this, boyo. You can sit this one out.

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Revelation34
02/04/21 10:46:53 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...

Historical context. Your first idea, I consider irrelevant.

You're right, it's the same word. Like any racial slur. It is different when a Chinese person discusses a racial slur against their people in a group than when an English/American/Canadian/Australian white person decides to use that slur. There is an inherently different dynamic, due to historical context.

I'm not saying that a white person can't use racial slurs in a very careful method of discussion (it's not my position to deem what's 'correct' or not, but even Mark Twain parsed differences in what he wrote and what he quoted, when using the N-word), but I'm saying that using them is best avoided in colloquial situations. Most people that I know who jokingly use racial slurs (that are white) with their friends (that are white) seem very desensitized to racial violence that exists.

Me using it jokingly or casually ignores all the people that have been treated to racial hatred since their childhoods - something which I have not endured. A guy I go to school with literally told me a story about them tying up a black kid to goal posts when they were in elementary school. Then they whipped him. He laughed and said that the teachers were crying about it. Great.

The people that support this guy BECAUSE of something like this are...well, I just find it sad.


Why are you talking about a Chinese person in that context when the example would be if the Chinese person used the word itself as an insult/slur?
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Cacciato
02/04/21 10:50:00 PM
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I like when these events happen because its always great to see the ones who come out and defend the guy like well, black people say it so its fine.
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wwinterj25
02/04/21 10:51:50 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
1. Everything you posted is wrong.

How so?

2. We already know your stance on this, boyo. You can sit this one out.

I already know your stance on this too. However I've contributed to the topic unlike yourself so take your own advise.


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EvilMegas
02/04/21 10:53:57 PM
#19:


wwinterj25 posted...
How so?

I already know your stance on this too. However I've contributed to the topic unlike yourself so take your own advise.
You have nothing to contribute. You said a bunch false bullshit and still to this day wont answer if you think it's okay to say the N word.

Likeyou were being so weirdly dodgy of the subject even kyuubi called you out on it.

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wwinterj25
02/04/21 10:56:24 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
You have nothing to contribute. You said a bunch false bullshit and still to this day wont answer if you think it's okay to say the N word.
Rather than type nonsense tell me how I'm wrong. As for the answer to your question I have actually answered it but you clearly don't pay attention. I'll say it again though I have no issue with the N-word when used in rap depending the context. Does using the N-word in rap bother you?

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EvilMegas
02/04/21 10:57:14 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Rather than type nonsense tell me how I'm wrong. As for the answer to your question I have actually answered it but you clearly don't pay attention. I'll say it again though I have no issue with the N-Word when used in rap depending the context. Does using the N-word in rap bother you?
You're still dodging the fucking question dude. Lmao. Done with you.

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wwinterj25
02/04/21 10:59:04 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
You're still dodging the fucking question dude. Lmao. Done with you.
Clearly you have trouble reading. I'm happy you're done with me as you're wasting my time. Rather than come in screaming racism as you always do put forward your views or don't bother.

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DANTE20XX
02/04/21 11:00:13 PM
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Its just a stupid word. If we want people to stop saying it we should ALL stop saying it. I'm really tired of the notion that some word can be said by 1 group, but its demonized by another for saying it. You can't have a word that only a select race can say (freely and all the time I might add) and yet be so harsh on another for using it.

Its so hypocritical to me. Either everyone can say it freely or we all should stop, no in between.

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Shadowbird_RH
02/04/21 11:05:12 PM
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Cacciato posted...
I like when these events happen because its always great to see the ones who come out and defend the guy like well, black people say it so its fine.
I think a middle ground is more appropriate. Guy deserves some backlash for it, but what's happening to him is extreme. When people of one race can do/say something without consequence and someone of a different race does/says the same thing and it destroys their life, it feels like an instance of racial inequality, or even racial oppression.

It's a vulgar and poisonous word, and I agree with where he says "There are no excuses to use this type of language, ever." It's a word that should be allowed to fade into the annals of history, only brought up for historical reference if at all.

Words only have as much power as people give them, and I think people have given this word an extreme and racially inequal amount of power. If it is to remain in people's lexicons, it should be normalized so as to remove that power. If people are going to say it, it shouldn't matter what color the person's skin is, and they should face as much or as little backlash as anyone else using it the same way.

It strikes me as inexplicably strange that a society supposedly striving for racial equality would so staunchly defend and maintain this instance of inequality.

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Metalsonic66
02/04/21 11:09:43 PM
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Muscles
02/04/21 11:21:40 PM
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I don't have an issue with people liking music made by shitty people

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TheSlinja
02/05/21 12:48:49 AM
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imagine taking bait from someone who didnt even read the topic

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ReturnOfFa
02/05/21 3:39:53 AM
#28:


Zeus posted...
It's tough living in a world without elves and lizardmen.

*cue laugh track*

Context is irrespective of race.

Maybe you should focus on actual context.

That's not historical context, that's ACTUAL context. Discussing a slur and its impact is the same irrespective of race. Deciding to use the slur against an individual or group is the same irrespective of race. The claim that a racial slur isn't racist just because the person is of that race is just so profoundly fucking ignorant that one hardly knows where to begin criticizing the stupidity of that claim. The underlying assumption is that somebody can't be racist against their own race, which is just flat-out wrong and -- since you love bringing up "historical contexts" -- there are PLENTY of historical contexts backing up the idea of people being racist against their own race. Seriously, fucking educate yourself. Even today there are widespread issues where people are racist against their race, including discrimination among blacks based whose skin is lighter or darker.
Yes, I know about those things too, you don't have to call me 'so profoundly fucking ignorant'. This conversation isn't really worth having if you're going to be on this level of insultingly rude. I am aware of people being racist against their own race. Just please tone it down if you actually want to talk about this, please.

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BUMPED2002
02/05/21 5:23:37 AM
#29:


Why would it be disgusting that his fans support him. The same people who support him also supported Trump and his racist ideals so that's not shocking in a country that was set up for and by White Supremacists because at the end of the day that's what the founding fathers were, White Land Owning Supremacists who perpetuated the notion spawned in those colonies that slaves weren't human beings therefore admitting that these people were human beings would mean they would have to question their morals but they thought of slaves as property which in their mind minimized the notion that these people indeed were human beings.

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02/05/21 8:36:07 AM
#30:


Zeus posted...
*cue laugh track*

Context is irrespective of race.

Race is a critical part of the relevant context, here. It's far from the only determining factor, and it's not as absolute as "white people saying it is different from black people saying it," but it's a significant enough factor that that's a reasonable simplification of the matter (especially where, even if we ignore race, this guy is not a part of any of the cultures or communities where it would be acceptable).

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kind9
02/05/21 8:50:54 AM
#31:


DANTE20XX posted...
Its just a stupid word.
It's a word with a lot of bad history behind it. Maybe it should be just a stupid word, but it isn't.

I do find it a little frustrating that black people say it all the time though. I was watching a podcast the other day that had one black guest and he kept saying the N-word with a hard R and then laughing at how it made the white boys on that podcast uncomfortable. To be fair though this person was just being an asshole, but still.

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TheOkHornedRat
02/05/21 9:56:53 AM
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Hoo boy, duckbear about to get some people banned

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ReturnOfFa
02/05/21 12:01:47 PM
#33:


If anyone's getting banned, it's on them, not duckbear lol.

I know that what I posted wasn't perfect, but to have someone react like Zeus? Good god. Do you want to chat on the phone and not use extremely insulting sentences?

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wwinterj25
02/05/21 1:44:59 PM
#34:


TheOkHornedRat posted...
Hoo boy, duckbear about to get some people banned
Nothing new.

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BADoglick
02/05/21 5:02:57 PM
#35:


I don't think that 'why black people can use that word but white people can't' needs to be explained to any adult after all this time and frankly if you're still making that argument then you just need to come to grips with the fact that you're both an idiot and a racist. I'm not going to debate this with anyone, so don't both arguing. Maybe try some introspection first. Or read a damn book. But I'm not wasting any more energy on your ignorance

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AWinterJ
02/05/21 5:13:01 PM
#36:


BADoglick posted...
I don't think that 'why black people can use that word but white people can't' needs to be explained to any adult after all this time and frankly if you're still making that argument then you just need to come to grips with the fact that you're both an idiot and a racist.

I'm a racist for wanting equality? Huh. Seems like a counter productive thing to suggest.

I'm not going to debate this with anyone, so don't both arguing. Maybe try some introspection first. Or read a damn book. But I'm not wasting any more energy on your ignorance

Tough shit. You posted so your getting a response. I see with the eyes wide open and ironically you need to open your mind and do the same. Do you want everyone to be treated equal? It seems you do not.


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Shadowbird_RH
02/05/21 5:26:23 PM
#37:


So, "this is my perspective and it's right because I say it's right, you ignorant racist!" huh?
I am neither moved nor impressed.

I've brought up points in this topic because I acknowledge that I am ignorant, and seek understanding. As it stands, for two different people to use the same word the same way and have such extremely different results and the only difference being race, it seems like we've forgotten what racism really is, and have been fooled into accepting a system of normalized racism as appropriate, and defending it. That I can say that a white person and a black person should be treated equally and be called a racist for it, I can't help but find that very disturbing, not because of the gravity of the insult cast upon me, but because of the desperate state of our society that would be necessary for this to happen in the first place.

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BADoglick
02/05/21 5:38:39 PM
#38:


AWinterJ posted...
I'm a racist for wanting equality? Huh. Seems like a counter productive thing to suggest.

Are you really comparing your inability to openly use the n word to the actual oppression faced by minorities, immigrants, women, and homosexuals? You think maybe it's likely that you are propping up a facade of disingenuous morality in order to justify your racist compulsions to yourself and others?

Introspection, buddy. I've done it. I've grown from it. It's difficult, I understand, but it's worth it.


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DANTE20XX
02/05/21 5:49:40 PM
#39:


"Don't use this word, its hurtful and brings back bad memories of the past"

"Sounds good, lets not use it...wait no, also we can use it all the time, but only us"

Seems legit

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AWinterJ
02/05/21 6:00:12 PM
#40:


BADoglick posted...
-snip-

What I'm saying is stop using the word period if you find it so offensive. You're suggesting it's fine for another race to use it and not others yet calling others racist. Get your head out of your arse and stop being against the thing you claim you're all for and that is anti racism for fuck sake.


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Revelation34
02/05/21 7:41:09 PM
#41:


BUMPED2002 posted...
Why would it be disgusting that his fans support him. The same people who support him also supported Trump and his racist ideals so that's not shocking in a country that was set up for and by White Supremacists because at the end of the day that's what the founding fathers were, White Land Owning Supremacists who perpetuated the notion spawned in those colonies that slaves weren't human beings therefore admitting that these people were human beings would mean they would have to question their morals but they thought of slaves as property which in their mind minimized the notion that these people indeed were human beings.


LMAO.

BADoglick posted...
I don't think that 'why black people can use that word but white people can't' needs to be explained to any adult after all this time and frankly if you're still making that argument then you just need to come to grips with the fact that you're both an idiot and a racist. I'm not going to debate this with anyone, so don't both arguing. Maybe try some introspection first. Or read a damn book. But I'm not wasting any more energy on your ignorance


People are saying nobody should be using that word.
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Cacciato
02/05/21 8:55:44 PM
#42:


Here comes Rev with his dumbass input.
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ReturnOfFa
02/05/21 9:09:05 PM
#43:


I'd say that even if your view is that 'nobody should say it ever, regardless of race' OR 'everyone should have the freedom to say it'...I still think you should be able to see that a white person saying the N-Word is quantifiably different than a black person saying the N-Word \_()_/

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Metalsonic66
02/05/21 9:12:08 PM
#44:


I think everyone should use the C-Word all the time

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ReturnOfFa
02/05/21 9:49:30 PM
#45:


Metalsonic66 posted...
I think everyone should use the C-Word all the time
I use it, but mostly directed at men...rarely XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKOo8rd6T7s&feature=emb_title

Here's a funny story. My mom was upset that I had watched Shawn of the Dead at a friend's house when I was 15. I asked her why, and she said that they said the "C-word". I had literally never heard the classic 'C-word'. She kept telling me "you know!!!", and I finally whispered..."*insert slur for asian people here*". Now, I know that's offensive, but it is also funny.

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Revelation34
02/05/21 10:25:24 PM
#46:


Cacciato posted...
Here comes Rev with his dumbass input.


Found the racist.

Metalsonic66 posted...
I think everyone should use the C-Word all the time


Only if you're Australian.
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Cacciato
02/05/21 10:56:30 PM
#47:


So you dont think the founding fathers were racist? Its kinda hard to write we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and then go on and allow slavery while limiting voting rights to men, dont you think, you fucking dunce?
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Metalsonic66
02/05/21 11:23:08 PM
#48:


Revelation34 posted...
Only if you're Australian.
Or Scottish

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Revelation34
02/06/21 12:01:30 AM
#49:


Cacciato posted...
So you dont think the founding fathers were racist? Its kinda hard to write we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and then go on and allow slavery while limiting voting rights to men, dont you think, you fucking dunce?


We all know you meant that for the 2nd part of that post, racist.
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Cacciato
02/06/21 12:55:41 AM
#50:


Revelation34 posted...
We all know you meant that for the 2nd part of that post, racist.
Well, at least you agree with me then.
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