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RikkuAlmighty 01/16/21 10:51:09 PM #1: |
still love gal gadot as WW but everything else was so...bleh
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Murphiroth 01/16/21 10:54:35 PM #2: |
Don't think about it too hard, the more you think about it the worse it gets.
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RikkuAlmighty 01/16/21 10:56:05 PM #3: |
i'm usually fine with suspending disbelief especially in superhero movies, but WW84 takes it to the next level with how much i have to throw out the window for the movie to stay enjoyable
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RikkuAlmighty 01/16/21 10:59:40 PM #4: |
Also i was just fundamentally confused on a basic rule of the plot. The stone can grant only one wish? Or multiple wishes? Or can grant another wish if you rescind the first? Wtf?
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colliding 01/16/21 11:01:22 PM #5: |
the first one wasn't good either; it just seemed that way compared to bvs and it had the benefit of one actually good scene (the trench scene)
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RikkuAlmighty 01/16/21 11:04:14 PM #6: |
I watched WW without having seen the other DC movies and still thoroughly enjoyed it. I think as the overall genre of superhero movies go it would be in the top third for me (but on the lower bound because ya the last fight could have been better)
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UshiromiyaEva 01/16/21 11:07:58 PM #7: |
Pretty sure the other topic about this just purged, lol.
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Leafeon13N 01/16/21 11:09:21 PM #8: |
RikkuAlmighty posted...
Also i was just fundamentally confused on a basic rule of the plot. The stone can grant only one wish? Or multiple wishes? Or can grant another wish if you rescind the first? Wtf?None of the basic rules of the plot are consistent. Characterization is inconsistent. Nothing about the movie is consistent with itself. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RikkuAlmighty 01/16/21 11:09:25 PM #9: |
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RikkuAlmighty 01/16/21 11:11:55 PM #10: |
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UshiromiyaEva 01/16/21 11:12:09 PM #11: |
She is the only person attached so far, but only listed as director.
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Xiahou Shake 01/16/21 11:13:42 PM #12: |
I generally try to see the best in any art but I was pretty stunned by how bad I thought this was. Best thing I can possibly say is that if you took just the Max Lord stuff and isolated it, you'd probably have the majority of a significantly better film already made. Even then, there are still problems, but everything else besides that is an absolute train wreck.
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DoomTheGyarados 01/16/21 11:14:57 PM #13: |
Yeah she can direct very well, so not against that.
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mnkboy907 01/16/21 11:17:24 PM #14: |
I just watched it a couple days ago and yeah, that constant escalation of doomsday was just so weird. And then it became Cats.
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TheRock1525 01/16/21 11:18:01 PM #15: |
More like Blunder Woman Eighty-Snore, am I right?
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UshiromiyaEva 01/16/21 11:18:27 PM #16: |
Best way to describe it is it feels like a higher budget early 2000s bad superhero movie. Daredevil, Catwoman, etc.
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RikkuAlmighty 01/16/21 11:18:27 PM #17: |
mnkboy907 posted...
I just watched it a couple days ago and yeah, that constant escalation of doomsday was just so weird. And then it became Cats.cats vs magic amazonian armor that's actually pretty easy to tear apart as it turns out --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 01/17/21 2:17:04 AM #18: |
It's another trainwreck that resulted from a director trying to also be the writer. You saw it with the Star Wars sequels, and you see it here. I'm not sure why this is such a trend recently, but it needs to stop. A proper team of writers that are familiar with the source material and the concept of comic books is needed.
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XIII_rocks 01/17/21 2:19:02 AM #19: |
Thoughts from the other topic
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PrivateBiscuit1 01/17/21 2:21:47 AM #20: |
Are we going to have a new topic on this bad movie every week? Lol
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Xtlm 01/17/21 3:00:09 AM #21: |
RikkuAlmighty posted...
still love gal gadot as WWI mean sure, until she starts acting. I never saw the first movie though, only 84. --- I'd Rather Be A Savage Little Elephant, than be a big Bald Bull "I claim one line in your sig" = TheKnightOfNee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkMarioSamus 01/17/21 5:18:33 AM #22: |
From what I've heard this is basically a high-gloss superhero movie from the '80s or '90s. You'd think we're past this nonsense by now.
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FFDragon 01/17/21 11:34:21 AM #23: |
how do you make wonder woman herself uncomfortably rapey and completely gung-ho about it
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RikkuAlmighty 01/17/21 12:53:14 PM #24: |
Also this movie made me realize Kristen Wiig and Kristen Schaal are not the same person. For some reason I thought they were and thought Wiig had great range to be able to voice Louise on Bob's Burgers.
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lordjers 01/17/21 12:55:35 PM #25: |
Agreed, but the first one wasn't very good either.
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Safer_777 01/17/21 3:04:08 PM #26: |
The first got so much high praise because it starred a woman super hero. And it was decent but just because it was decent and starred a solo woman as a super hero it got rave reviews.
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Waluigi1 01/17/21 5:02:01 PM #27: |
Safer_777 posted...
The first got so much high praise because it starred a woman super hero. And it was decent but just because it was decent and starred a solo woman as a super hero it got rave reviews.Bingo. The first one is pretty boring until the trench scene. --- PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 Switch FC: SW-6848-3841-9099 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 01/17/21 5:08:00 PM #28: |
I dunno, I watched Wonder Woman again recently and still had a blast watching it.
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redrocket 01/17/21 5:18:56 PM #29: |
WW was overrated (not bad) not because it starred a woman but because it followed the spectacular turd that was BvS.
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Grand Kirby 01/17/21 5:20:16 PM #30: |
I assumed the reason were so blown away over the first one was because it was the first DC movie to not completely suck.
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LinkMarioSamus 01/17/21 5:22:52 PM #31: |
That plus all previous superheroine movies being very poorly-received and that just being a weak summer for films.
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Xtlm 01/17/21 6:02:40 PM #32: |
Grand Kirby posted...
it was the first DC movie to not completely suck.Batman? --- I'd Rather Be A Savage Little Elephant, than be a big Bald Bull "I claim one line in your sig" = TheKnightOfNee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 01/17/21 6:18:28 PM #33: |
Xtlm posted...
Batman?I assume he meant DCEU Also I do think the original Wonder Woman is great, unrelated to being a female hero or the first good DCEU movie. It's just a really solid superhero, partially because it does well combining its genres of superhero film and war film this movie tried to be a superhero film and a... romcom? And didn't succeed at either one RikkuAlmighty posted... Also i was just fundamentally confused on a basic rule of the plot. The stone can grant only one wish? Or multiple wishes? Or can grant another wish if you rescind the first? Wtf? this was definitely one of the most frustrating things in the movie for me. Kristen Wiig very clearly gets two wishes, but nobody else does, meanwhile none of Max Lord's kids wishes (I recall him making 2) get granted --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 01/17/21 6:20:25 PM #34: |
2nd one was just for the PLOTS to have Cheetah look like a cheetah...well more like a CATS character, but yeah >_>
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lordjers 01/17/21 6:44:39 PM #35: |
The first one can't get a pass coming after BvS cause WW was better in that movie.
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StealThisSheen 01/17/21 6:51:19 PM #36: |
Johnbobb posted...
this was definitely one of the most frustrating things in the movie for me. Kristen Wiig very clearly gets two wishes, but nobody else does, meanwhile none of Max Lord's kids wishes (I recall him making 2) get granted --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 01/17/21 10:29:41 PM #37: |
lordjers posted...
The first one can't get a pass coming after BvS cause WW was better in that movie. Nothing about BVS is better than Wonder Woman in even the most minute way. I have never seen a more miserable movie than BVS. It is the first time I have left a theater visibly upset. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordjers 01/17/21 10:37:29 PM #38: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Nothing about BVS is better than Wonder Woman in even the most minute way. Yes, WW herself. --- Last finished: Scramble (Konami+Stern) (ARC), Gorf (ARC+2600+A800+5200+BBC+VIC-20+Coleco+C64), Uniwar S (ARC), Moon Lander ARC), Lunar Rescue (ARC). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 01/17/21 10:38:53 PM #39: |
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Corrik7 01/17/21 10:41:58 PM #40: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Pretty sure the other topic about this just purged, lol.Is she a good director? She was the one who argued incessantly until she won keeping both the mall and the Arena game scenes in. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 01/17/21 10:43:23 PM #41: |
Captain America did the war movie/superhero movie thing much much better imo.
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Corrik7 01/17/21 10:43:59 PM #42: |
DCEU gets really shit on a lot. It's not great but it's not terrible either.
MoS was pretty decent. BVS was decent. WW was pretty decent. JL was atrocious. Suicide Squad was Atrocious. Harley Quinn was pretty bad. Shazam was pretty decent. Aquaman was meh. I mean, there is too many bad movies in the universe compared to good ones with the MCU, but it's not entirely terrible. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 01/17/21 10:56:43 PM #43: |
Johnbobb posted...
this was definitely one of the most frustrating things in the movie for me. Kristen Wiig very clearly gets two wishes, but nobody else does This bothered me too, but I figured Lord had one of his lackeys wish for it off-screen. --- Not to be confused with XIII_stones. https://imgur.com/agodP3r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 01/17/21 11:05:01 PM #44: |
Birds of Prey is one of the best ones.
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swordz9 01/17/21 11:07:21 PM #45: |
Corrik7 posted...
DCEU gets really shit on a lot. It's not great but it's not terrible either. They get shit on because they have an amazing pool of superheroes and keep putting out stuff thats low or mid tier MCU at best. The DCEU is a disaster so far. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 01/18/21 7:32:07 AM #46: |
Corrik7 posted...
MoS was pretty decent. agree with this, i've never understood why man of steel gets so much hate tbqh. it's obviously flawed but i still thought it was ok. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 01/18/21 10:41:48 AM #47: |
AM > WW >>>>> HQ > S! >>>>> SS > WW84 > JL > BVS
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Corrik7 01/18/21 10:50:57 AM #48: |
Johnbobb posted...
AM > WW >>>>> HQ > S! >>>>> SS > WW84 > JL > BVSIt actually disposes of the main flaw in Superman movies for the most part which allows it to be okay. The main flaw superman has like Black Panther is that they are invincible. So nobody cares. MoS and BvS both work around the invincibility angle well to make it enjoyable. It's where Justice League falls apart... With Superman coming back. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 01/18/21 12:07:07 PM #49: |
can't agree with batman v superman being decent. it has some good ideas and it's not as terrible as people make it out to be. but there's just too many pointless detours (like the man-bat vision) and eisenberg's lex luthor sucked. haven't seen the director's cut, though, so perhaps that fixes some things.
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Corrik7 01/18/21 12:33:26 PM #50: |
The problem with BvS is mostly that Superman got kind of nerfed to make the film work. Which, I am all for because again Superman movies generally suck because he is invincible, however they kept a few scenes to show how powerful he was that they shouldn't have (example beginning of the movie).
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