Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results and Discussion

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Tifa is in ECC too

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LiquidOshawott posted...

Who are ECCs and Top ten stats peeps without titles

Seph, Rikku, Terra, Yuffie, and Locke for the former I think

Well we'll just have to see about one or two of those.

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andylt posted...

Tifa is in ECC too

Good catch I just forgot her it seems

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Leanansidhe posted...

I can't wait for Martin to tell me my soulmate and nemesis

instead of checking for a new round every day i keep checking for this now

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lol

I'm supposed to be on vacation today but I'm still working... it'll be coming soon enough

Lea, I thought for sure it'd be you and me since you had Tifa and Aerith ranked high, and Yuffie and Red XIII ranked low, like we were almost perfect there.... but we had too large a discrepancy on Tidus. You have a good match imo, someone who was really my bro the past few weeks (uh, except on Day 96).

SockoressKnight posted...

I'm so happy that my favorite Final Fantasy character won the contest

Socko, I gotta ask, and feel free to just ignore me since it's none of my business and I won't push any further, but: what was going on with you towards the end?

I thought you were a Squall guy all along but if I'm not mistaken, you missed the last few days entirely? And you never saved once in the finals?

I was so confused, just wasn't sure what was going on tbh...

I guess my next question is what is the minimum placement Squall needs to guarantee Lightning doesn't pass him in his newstats (and whoever #6 is in overall)

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pjbasis posted...

I guess my next question is what is the minimum placement Squall needs to guarantee Lightning doesn't pass him in his newstats (and whoever #6 is in overall)

it would obviously depend on where Lightning finishes as well but you should just make it a goal to beat Lightning if you're worried about that

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But she got 31 this year sounds rough

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Alright, here's the compatibility stats for all 46 participants. First is the username, best match, worst match. In brackets is the standard deviation of the different between your matches and their matches. I don't remember what standard deviation represents, read about it on wikipedia, who knows if it's even applicable in this case but thats how it's done.

Note that "best matches" don't always go the same way. So for example my best match was with captaincanadian, but captain's was with Nanis (and Nanis with captain), so they were just... that much more closely aligned!

For the "best matches", less than 3 is really terrific, 3 to 3.6 rounds up the upper half, and the rest are lower half. There's a couple of "best matches" below 5 which, well, no really good matches out there...?

For "worst matches", a standard deviation of 7.9 is about the halfway point. 7.101 is the least "worst" match, which was my match with Drakeryn, which I think proves I have the best taste by being the least "off" from everyone else...?

There are 4 users (2 pairs) who tied for "best match" and I'll be commenting on them separately to this post, later on; also going to comment on the worst & second-worst matches too.

Generally speaking, 29 of the 46 participants were someone's "best" match, with Nanis, Great_Paul, Steiner, GMUN and Maniac64 leading the way with being the "best" match for 3 users each.

Conversely, 25 of the 46 participants were someone's "worst" match, with Eddv domnating as the "worst" matchup for 8 (!!) different users, with Drakeryn and Luis_Sera following up with 4 each.

So here's the stats and I've bolded the 2 pairs of the best and the 2 pairs of the worst:

andy | Best Match: MZero (3.645) | Worst Match: mnkboy (7.910)

Arti | Best Match: KommunistKoala (3.251) | Worst Match: Eddv (7.221)

Bane | Best Match: MZero (2.699) | Worst Match: Luis_Sera89 (7.474)

BetrayedTangy | Best Match: pjbasis (3.140) | Worst Match: Drakeryn (7.644)

captaincanadiancanadian | Best Match: Nanis (3.381) | Worst Match: Eddv (7.131)

Denzokuken | Best Match: Snake5555555555 (2.952) | Worst Match: Eddv (8.185)

Drakeryn | Best Match: Janus (5.318) | Worst Match: pjbasis (7.937)

ecksgem | Best Match: pjbasis (3.817) | Worst Match: Luis_Sera89 (7.181)

Eddv | Best Match: Mewtwo (4.293) | Worst Match: Snake5555555555 (8.668)

Fbike | Best Match: Eddv (5.593) | Worst Match: swordz (8.106)

FFDragon | Best Match: ecksgem (4.342) | Worst Match: VengefulKaelee (8.124)

GMUN | Best Match: mnkboy (2.699) | Worst Match: Maniac64 (7.874)

Great_Paul | Best Match: StifledSilence (3.117) | Worst Match: Eddv (7.991)

guffguy89 | Best Match: Steiner (3.665) | Worst Match: Luis_Sera89 (7.883)

illuminatusbubu | Best Match: guffguy89 (4.309) | Worst Match: andy (7.397)

Inviso | Best Match: Nanis (4.359) | Worst Match: Janus (7.531)

Janus | Best Match: Maniac64 (3.546) | Worst Match: TotallyNotMI (8.089)

KommunistKoala | Best Match: Great_Paul (3.229) | Worst Match: Eddv (7.378)

Leanansidhe | Best Match: linkhatesganon (3.780) | Worst Match: PrinceKaro (7.928)

linkhatesganon | Best Match: RaidenGarai (3.381) | Worst Match: Drakeryn (7.502)

Lopen | Best Match: v_charon (4.309) | Worst Match: tennisboy213 (7.865)

Luis_Sera89 | Best Match: tennisboy213 (4.309) | Worst Match: Moonroof (8.384)

Maniac64 | Best Match: Janus (3.546) | Worst Match: GMUN (7.874)

Martin | Best Match: captaincanadian (3.443) | Worst Match: Drakeryn (7.101)

Mewtwo | Best Match: Eddv (4.293) | Worst Match: Steiner (7.700)

mnkboy | Best Match: GMUN (2.699) | Worst Match: andy (7.910)

Moonroof | Best Match: Steiner (3.566) | Worst Match: Luis_Sera89 (8.384)

MZero | Best Match: Bane (2.699) | Worst Match: FFDragon (7.483)

Nanis | Best Match: captaincanadiancanadian (3.381) | Worst Match: Lopen (7.387)

pjbasis | Best Match: BetrayedTangy (3.140) | Worst Match: Drakeryn (7.937)

PrinceKaro | Best Match: yellowwolley (4.123) | Worst Match: TheArkOfTurus (8.098)

RaidenGarai | Best Match: linkhatesganon (3.381) | Worst Match: Robazoid (7.300)

Robazoid | Best Match: PrinceKaro (4.175) | Worst Match: andy (7.493)

Snake5555555555 | Best Match: Steiner (2.726) | Worst Match: Eddv (8.668)

Steiner | Best Match: Snake5555555555 (2.726) | Worst Match: Eddv (8.298)

StifledSilence | Best Match: Great_Paul (3.117) | Worst Match: Eddv (7.892)

swordz | Best Match: Moonroof (3.586) | Worst Match: Fbike (8.106)

tennisboy213 | Best Match: GMUN (4.293) | Worst Match: v_charon (8.080)

TheArkOfTurus | Best Match: Maniac64 (4.209) | Worst Match: PrinceKaro (8.098)

TotallyNotMI | Best Match: GMUN (4.106) | Worst Match: Janus (8.089)

v_charon | Best Match: Maniac64 (3.836) | Worst Match: tennisboy213 (8.080)

VengefulKaelee | Best Match: Denzokuken (3.546) | Worst Match: FFDragon (8.124)

VeryInsane | Best Match: Leanansidhe (4.276) | Worst Match: Inviso (7.329)

Xuxon | Best Match: BetrayedTangy (3.485) | Worst Match: Mewtwo (7.270)

yellowwolley | Best Match: Great_Paul (4.123) | Worst Match: TheArkOfTurus (7.663)

Zigzagoon | Best Match: Nanis (4.472) | Worst Match: Lopen (7.709)

hey lea you're my best match but I'm not yours

D:

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fuck you @Eddv

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I'm pretty sure mnk was my best match last year

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VeryInsane posted...

hey lea you're my best match but I'm not yours

D:

This is me with MZero, who has cast me aside for Bane :(

I am nobody's best match but 3 people's worst. Hooray? Keeping an eye on bubu, mnk and Roba.

swordz | Best Match: Moonroof (3.586)

oof poor swordz

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Has anyone ever seen swordz and Moonroof in the same place at the same time before?!?!

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Steiner posted...

fuck you Eddv

I just literally lol'ed

Guess what, I just opened up last year's file and he was your worst match there too. The more things change...!

Grimlyn posted...

I'm pretty sure mnk was my best match last year

Let me see... nope FFDragon was best last year!

mnkboy was actually really bad, standard deviation over 7... Gilgamesh, Red Mage, Aerith, Quina, Lightning were all differences of 9 places or more between you two.

oh hell yea I got a bold shoutout for being such a good buddy with @MZero , I also know he's a FFX buddy so woo

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we should all strive to be Eddv's worst match

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no need to rub it in bane

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:o

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Honestly if you have like, 3 FF7 characters in your top five in some order Eddv's probably your worst match

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Grimlyn posted...

I'm pretty sure mnk was my best match last year

It's funny we were best matches but we never really lined up until Squall of all characters. I mean technically Kefka but that lasted all of 1 round, lol.

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Andy why are you so obsessed with me and quick to hop on the hate train?

Is it because I played you like the puppet you are?

• Red XIII was a difference of 5 (shouldn't have put him #1!!)
• Celes, Kefka, Aerith 4
• Tifa, Yuffie 3
• Tidus 2
• Barret, Delita, Emet 1
• Squall, Seymour, Garnet, Edea exact same place

No difference greater than 5 and a lot of 0s or 1s is what it takes to be the best!

Looking at GMUN and mnkboy:

• Red XIII difference of 5 (again!)
• Emet, Tifa 4
• Delita, Aerith, Garnet, Tidus 3
• Celes, Kefka 2
• Seymour 1
• Edea, Yuffie, Squall, Barret and Cecil all exact matches, damn...

More 0s, but more 3s, ends up with the same standard deviation as the Bane/MZero match I guess!

VeryInsane posted...

Honestly if you have like, 3 FF7 characters in your top five in some order Eddv's probably your worst match

Well Eddv.... it seems I am your worst match.

MartinFF7 posted...

They don't even share a main! This is rigged I tell you.

Sunroof posted...

Is it because I played you like the puppet you are?

OK Sephiroth. Bud without you Tidus would've been eliminated weeks before he actually was, and my second choice won the whole thing so if that is you playing me then... thanks?

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All the ore reason for you to quit being captain rude boy toward me.

OK. I apologise for not treating you with the respect you clearly deserve, Moon/Sunroof/swordz.

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oh martin what was your rank

I don't think I saw you post it

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VeryInsane posted...

Honestly if you have like, 3 FF7 characters in your top five in some order Eddv's probably your worst match

Pretty much how the "worst matchup" between Eddv and Snake plays out. Not posting lists but, let's just say they had 5 matches which were a double digit difference, and all but 1 rank had a difference of 4 or more (though that 1 placement was a 0)

As for the next-worst matchup, Luis_Sera and Moonroof:



Complete inversion on Emet-Selch, 13 spots on Tidus, 11 spots on Edea, 9 on Celes, Squall and Seymour. Best fits are Aerith and Kefka at 2 spots off but too much difference!

wow so moonroof really was on the squall train when tidus got out

I know he had said something alluding to wanting squall to win but I wasn't sure if it was legit

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Honestly swap Garnet and Cecil and Moonroof's list looks pretty darn similar to mine.

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Sword?

Bane, I have ascended. My high-IQ worked in the end. I single-handedly did it.

huh, bit surprised Drak didn't end up my least compatible. i know we have opposite opinions on at least 4 characters, but i guess agreeing on Yuffie and Seymour was enough? Mewtwo and i must really disagree about everything other than Kefka and Barret in that top 15.

for most compatible seeing Tangy felt a bit weird because it seemed like he was saving characters i dislike for most of the contest, but it does makes sense just for top 15 having the same #1 and 2 and knowing nothing else. lhg does as well but i know he likes Seymour. i was kinda expecting Yankees since we have similar tastes in general and were always on the same character once Celes went out, and i also have her ranked high.

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MartinFF7 posted...

Socko, I gotta ask, and feel free to just ignore me since it's none of my business and I won't push any further, but: what was going on with you towards the end?

I thought you were a Squall guy all along but if I'm not mistaken, you missed the last few days entirely? And you never saved once in the finals?

I was so confused, just wasn't sure what was going on tbh...

Squall was always my #1, and my goal was only top 10. When he started hanging around at the end of rounds, and solo carrying Tiz became a full-time commitment, I intentionally missed most of a round and let Tiz die (he's just not fun enough for free saves like Cissnei and Layle)

After top 25, I felt like Squall might not make it and believed I had to be early enough every round to get 3 saves. That was a real pain, so I offered up NRs in day 90, and that was the last round I took the contest seriously. I honored the NR day 91 and my trade agreements on days 92 and 93, but I was otherwise done. I really wanted to play Genshin Impact, and I went and voted on day 92 during the round. It felt really good to be free.

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I've long understood me and Drak have 1 significant difference but we also tend to share a lot of favs

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Xuxon posted...

huh, bit surprised Drak didn't end up my least compatible. i know we have opposite opinions on at least 4 characters, but i guess agreeing on Yuffie and Seymour was enough? Mewtwo and i must really disagree about everything other than Kefka and Barret in that top 15.

for most compatible seeing Tangy felt a bit weird because it seemed like he was saving characters i dislike for most of the contest, but it does makes sense just for top 15 having the same #1 and 2 and knowing nothing else. lhg does as well but i know he likes Seymour. i was kinda expecting Yankees since we have similar tastes in general and were always on the same character once Celes went out, and i also have her ranked high.

For planning purposes, will you know by nominations whom you want to push?

Xuxon posted...

huh, bit surprised Drak didn't end up my least compatible. i know we have opposite opinions on at least 4 characters, but i guess agreeing on Yuffie and Seymour was enough? Mewtwo and i must really disagree about everything other than Kefka and Barret in that top 15.

for most compatible seeing Tangy felt a bit weird because it seemed like he was saving characters i dislike for most of the contest, but it does makes sense just for top 15 having the same #1 and 2 and knowing nothing else. lhg does as well but i know he likes Seymour. i was kinda expecting Yankees since we have similar tastes in general and were always on the same character once Celes went out, and i also have her ranked high.

Yankees didn't submit a list.

You had some big difference with Drakeryn but you also had 4 differences of 1 placement & 4 differences of 2 placements so that helped temper things. With Mewtwo you had four double-digits, despite being 1 off on Kefka. Just a bit more mismatched.

With BetrayedTangy, you had 10 place difference on Tidus and 6 on Seymour but everything else was super low:



3 spots on Squall and Edea
2 on Barret and Yuffie
1 on Kefka, Tifa, Celes, Cecil, Garnet, Emet, Red XIII and Delita (!!!)
And exact same on Aerith

More than half your lists only 1 place off each other, it really adds up!

Grimlyn posted...

I've long understood me and Drak have 1 significant difference but we also tend to share a lot of favs

for the record just based on all the videos layle seems like a cool dude
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(he's not even the best character in his game, even if he is technically the main)

Ramza
Delita
Cecil
Ashe
Locke
Cloud
Laguna
Zell
Aerith
Balthier
Squall
Barret
Gilgamesh
Wiegraf
Gerad
Kuja
Tidus
Rikku
Sabin
Agrias
Jecht
Cid Highwind
Vanille
Ignis
Vivi

This was a random top twenty five list I made yesterday of general characters on discord

I can't think of anyone I really forgot, maybe Yuffie and/or Beatrix in place of the last two. Order could change on a dime too except for the top five which is pretty set in stone

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aww yeah at least Layle vids have been achieving part of the intended purpose of showing off his swagger

ofc primary intention is to get people to watch FFCCTCBTM to gather a complete impression

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I already knew Karo was my soulmate, we both like Eiko

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Only the soulless could do that.
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Mobilezoid posted...

I already knew Karo was my soulmate, we both like Eiko

I see he's my worst match for a reason.

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Ark gets it

btw I feel like my like for Cecil probably prevents a few of the deviations but I never forget my first (also I am afraid replaying IV again will not age well, I feel the same for RE4)

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RE4 absolutely holds up imo

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