Poll of the Day > Wokeness has taken over media

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King_Dilly
09/10/20 5:16:11 AM
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Wokeness is ruining movies, television, video games, etc. Much of it is about shoehorning in a strong female lead/character, making sure to have token diverse characters, and even adding football players like that idiot, Kaepernick for woke brownie points. At least none of this will change the fact that President Trump will earn another 4 years in office and make all of the crybaby leftists rage.

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ParanoidObsessive
09/10/20 5:31:05 AM
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http://variety.com/2020/film/news/oscars-inclusion-standards-best-picture-diversity-1234762727
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Judgmenl
09/10/20 5:33:16 AM
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Being woke is awesome wtf are you talking about?

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Zeus
09/10/20 5:47:20 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
http://variety.com/2020/film/news/oscars-inclusion-standards-best-picture-diversity-1234762727

Yeah, I saw an actress's reaction to that earlier. Like wtf? Were they not content already losing any credibility they might have had?

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Endgame
09/10/20 7:04:15 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Wokeness is a cancer killing creativity. And no I'm not trolling.

Of course not. It's not trolling if you actually believe it.

.....But it is dumb that you actually believe that.
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Clench281
09/10/20 7:05:17 AM
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If you're whining this much about finally having a handful (still minority) of main characters in media that aren't white men, oh man. I can only imagine much how hard you'd be screaming if you were part of a group historically completely unrepresented, or only represented as a caricature.

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09/10/20 7:06:15 AM
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Far-Queue
09/10/20 7:25:37 AM
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More like King Blue Pilly!

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Lokarin
09/10/20 7:54:23 AM
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If wokeness makes the media more money, then it hasn't taken over... it's just capitalism as intended.

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Firewerx
09/10/20 8:51:50 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Literally nobody thinks like this.
You literally don't know enough people.

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Blightzkrieg
09/10/20 9:00:52 AM
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Chad, Brad, Cad, Brayden, Trayden, Okayden, Kyle, Lyle, Style, and that FUCKER Tyrone.

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Firewerx
09/10/20 9:02:10 AM
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King_Dilly posted...
and make all of the crybaby leftists rage.
For now, it's all about the purple-faced, crybaby rightists slamming their little baby fists on the table and screaming tearfully because think that having a strong female lead in a movie spells the end of civilization as they know it. Aww, diddums.

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Cacciato
09/10/20 9:53:53 AM
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Im sorry your topic about wishing your kid was like that Kyle Rittenhouse got deleted and you got warned
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Zeus
09/10/20 12:29:33 PM
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Endgame posted...
Of course not. It's not trolling if you actually believe it.

.....But it is dumb that you actually believe that.

How can you claim that with a straight face when you see the awards change?

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That's kinda the point of trolling. Highly inaccurate claims are used to annoy and aggravate, prompting a response. It's pretty much Bligh's bread and butter.

Firewerx posted...
You literally don't know enough people.

Well, technically you really can't say "everybody" and "nobody" because there's always an exception somewhere, although it's generally understood that most times that's said it's hyperbolic.

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SunWuKung420
09/10/20 12:46:06 PM
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Imagine being such a bigot that diversity in media is a negative.

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Lorthremar
09/10/20 12:59:03 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Imagine being such a bigot that diversity in media is a negative.
i mean i dont know why anybody is surprised by zeus, dude has been pretty open about his feelings towards certain groups of people

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Raze_Razel
09/10/20 1:21:03 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Imagine being such a bigot that diversity in media is a negative.

Media is a business like any other, and that business is losing massive profits because of "woke culture".

It's a fact that "Get Woke, Go Broke" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. And there is several large examples proving this.

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/get-woke-go-broke-the-master-list/

Here's an awesome example:

Remember the "Boys will be Boys" Gillette razor commercial? Slamming all those "CIS White Males" with their "toxic masculinity, while they praise a father for teaching his FTM son to shave?......

This is the end result: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/p-gs-gillette-razor-business-is-not-for-sale-even-after-8-billion-writedown-122137193.html

....8 billion dollar loss, because of "wokeness"....

But somehow, 'they' spin this as bigotry?....Why? Because we don't cow-tow to 'woke'? Because content in media makes it mandatory to represent 1% of Western Civilization, front and center, leaving no room for the 99% to identify with, so they get bored and disinterested to the point they no longer endorse the product...... it's not bigotry, it's just these corporations have no clue who their audience/customer is anymore, and their bleeding money because of it. And they can't go back to "normal", because then they too would seem like bigots too.

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joemodda
09/10/20 1:25:34 PM
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Imagine thinking that the media actually gives two shits about muh diversity or muh inclusion.

It's all pointless pandering. Just checking off items on a list to appear more virtuous to people.

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OniRonin
09/10/20 1:31:05 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
Media is a business like any other, and that business is losing massive profits because of "woke culture".

It's a fact that "Get Woke, Go Broke" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. And there is several large examples proving this.

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/get-woke-go-broke-the-master-list/

Here's an awesome example:

Remember the "Boys will be Boys" Gillette razor commercial? Slamming all those "CIS White Males" with their "toxic masculinity, while they praise a father for teaching his FTM son to shave?......

This is the end result: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/p-gs-gillette-razor-business-is-not-for-sale-even-after-8-billion-writedown-122137193.html

....8 billion dollar loss, because of "wokeness"....

But somehow, 'they' spin this as bigotry?....Why? Because we don't cow-tow to 'woke'? Because content in media makes it mandatory to represent 1% of Western Civilization, front and center, leaving no room for the 99% to identify with, so they get bored and disinterested to the point they no longer endorse the product...... it's not bigotry, it's just these corporations have no clue who their audience/customer is anymore, and their bleeding money because of it. And they can't go back to "normal", because then they too would seem like bigots too.

So yes, "[Forced, manufactured] diversity" in media is a negative.
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Mead
09/10/20 1:31:55 PM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Literally nobody thinks like this.

must be your first day on the internet

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Blightzkrieg
09/10/20 1:34:06 PM
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joemodda posted...
Imagine thinking that the media actually gives two shits about muh diversity or muh inclusion.

It's all pointless pandering. Just checking off items on a list to appear more virtuous to people.
This is true, but I prefer it to the opposite situation (which was the case for decades and in some respects still is). If you don't think minorities were kept artificially scarce throughout the last 50 years of film and television you're naive

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MabinogiFan
09/10/20 1:51:30 PM
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OniRonin posted...
have you thought about getting a new hobby instead of obsessing over ads you dislike
So you got nothing to rebuttal with?
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Unbridled9
09/10/20 1:59:42 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...

This isn't how gamers think. This is how people who don't play games think gamers think.

I don't mind one bit when Barret gets a bigger role in FFVII R. I would have minded if, say, they had sidelined Cloud and made Barret the main character.

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Blightzkrieg
09/10/20 2:19:55 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
This isn't how gamers think. This is how people who don't play games think gamers think.

I don't mind one bit when Barret gets a bigger role in FFVII R. I would have minded if, say, they had sidelined Cloud and made Barret the main character.
Gamers rise up

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Mead
09/10/20 2:20:42 PM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
As I said. NAME TEN!

ten what? Puppies?

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wwinterj25
09/10/20 2:31:47 PM
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Mead
09/10/20 2:32:37 PM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
No Nigerian princes.

Leonard
Geoff
Quigley

fuck I only know 4

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Clench281
09/10/20 2:33:34 PM
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I find it hilarious that, simultaneously, people in this topic are arguing

Woke is bad because it actually harms the business
Woke is bad because it's pandering (to improve business)

Cut the crap and just admit you don't like woke regardless of the consequence, instead of hiding behind made up post-hoc rationale

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
09/10/20 2:51:00 PM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Literally nobody thinks like this.
A poster here does.

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PMarth2002
09/10/20 3:06:55 PM
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That seems incredibly pathetic if the presence of characters who are not white or male "ruins" media for you.

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Zeus
09/10/20 3:26:52 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Imagine being such a bigot that diversity in media is a negative.

Imagine trying to use that as a defense to a ridiculous change in awards criteria.

Lorthremar posted...
i mean i dont know why anybody is surprised by zeus, dude has been pretty open about his feelings towards certain groups of people

i mean i dont know why anybody is surprised you jump on an alt to make ridiculous claims centered around me when you have several other people condemning the change much more harshly in the same topic. It's almost like you're obsessed or something.

Also, you guys talk about high karma alts then bust out a 4k alt with 10 AMP, roflmao.

Raze_Razel posted...
But somehow, 'they' spin this as bigotry?....Why? Because we don't cow-tow to 'woke'? Because content in media makes it mandatory to represent 1% of Western Civilization, front and center, leaving no room for the 99% to identify with, so they get bored and disinterested to the point they no longer endorse the product...... it's not bigotry, it's just these corporations have no clue who their audience/customer is anymore, and their bleeding money because of it. And they can't go back to "normal", because then they too would seem like bigots too.

Kinda like how Sony tried to spin the all-female Ghostbusters reboot's terrible reception as being the result of misogynists... and likely the only people who actually bought that claim are Sunny and whoever is behind that Lorthremar alt.

Clench281 posted...
I find it hilarious that, simultaneously, people in this topic are arguing

Woke is bad because it actually harms the business
Woke is bad because it's pandering (to improve business)

Cut the crap and just admit you don't like woke regardless of the consequence, instead of hiding behind made up post-hoc rationale

I find it hilarious that you don't understand what people are saying and choose to more loudly announce the fact that you don't understand what people are saying. But then again, you're a very generous man -- you're always giving away your ignorance! XD

The posts talking about pandering are discussing how it backfires. If you read any of them, you'd pick up on that. In Razel's case, he was discussing how Gillette tried to go SJW -- which they did to pander because they thought it'd help their brand -- and instead they suffered a catastrophic loss during that period (which presumably wasn't *just* because of the ad campaign, but the timing is hilarious)

Cut the crap and just admit that you don't understand a word of what's being said, instead of trying to pretend that you know what's going on. Or, better yet, try learning about what's going on... although at that point you know your terrible opinions would change.

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Clench281
09/10/20 3:37:21 PM
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Zeus posted...
The posts talking about pandering are discussing how it backfires. If you read any of them, you'd pick up on that. In Razel's case, he was discussing how Gillette tried to go SJW -- which they did to pander because they thought it'd help their brand -- and instead they suffered a catastrophic loss during that period (which presumably wasn't *just* because of the ad campaign, but the timing is hilarious)

Can you point out to me where this post is talking about backfiring? Because it certainly, to me, looks like it implies pandering is to improve one's image for business reasons, exactly as I said:

joemodda posted...
Imagine thinking that the media actually gives two shits about muh diversity or muh inclusion.

It's all pointless pandering. Just checking off items on a list to appear more virtuous to people.

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Lorthremar
09/10/20 4:05:22 PM
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i love that your only defense is calling me an alt, zeus. i'm not an alt, i just don't post here because clowns like you aren't worth interacting with lmao. aren't you too busy defending trump and the murders of black people to interact with me?

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Zeus
09/10/20 4:14:54 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Can you point out to me where this post is talking about backfiring? Because it certainly, to me, looks like it implies pandering is to improve one's image for business reasons, exactly as I said:

Can you point out where that post mentions that it actually succeeded? Because that was your premise. More importantly, you're talking about an apparent contradiction that isn't evident there either.

Lorthremar posted...
i love that your only defense is calling me an alt, zeus

It's not a "defense," I call your account an alt because you're using an alt. You have an almost-perfect karma which is ridiculously rare, yet your post count is non-existent.

You also claim not to be an alt but you use safely-tested flames where you know you won't get moderated, which is a very meta thing to do and isn't something that a lurker would know. That's the kind of shit you'd only learn through extensive trial and error; in fact, there are only a handful of posters I've seen who I've seen with that knowledge.

Lorthremar posted...
aren't you too busy

You took the time to hop onto an alt to try to troll me while ignoring the countless other people who spoke more harshly on the subject, the least I can do is take a minute to respond to your nonsense.

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Raze_Razel
09/10/20 4:17:36 PM
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OniRonin posted...
have you thought about getting a new hobby instead of obsessing over ads you dislike

How about you defend that wet-cardboard pedestal first before lecturing anyone in the first place?

I would like to say stock trading is a hobby of mine, but how can I since you're driving the economy down anyways.
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Clench281
09/10/20 5:10:08 PM
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Oh, I see. Zeus has invented in his head a situation where it's literally impossible for media to include socially progressive material, and not be the bad guy.

If they include socially progressive material and gain favor for it, then they're bad because they're manipulating/pandering just for money

If they include socially progressive material, and get backlash for it, then it's a result of people recognizing that they're trying to pander to the audience.

The only solution is for media to not include socially progressive material.

Pretty clever, but easy to see through your ruse.

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Zeus
09/10/20 5:17:35 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Oh, I see. Zeus has invented in his head a situation where it's literally impossible for media to include socially progressive material, and not be the bad guy.

Oh, I see. Clench is completely divorced from reality.

Clench281 posted...
If they include socially progressive material and gain favor for it, then they're bad because they're manipulating/pandering just for money

If they include socially progressive material, and get backlash for it, then it's a result of people recognizing that they're trying to pander to the audience.

The only solution is for media to not include socially progressive material.

Pretty clever, but easy to see through your ruse.

In other words, you still don't have a clue about what's actually being said, but you aren't letting that stop you from having a glaringly wrong opinion?

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Aculo
09/10/20 5:23:06 PM
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"I don't have a problem with women or people of color in media I consume, I just hate it when they're forced into it for diversity's sake!"

then they go on to complain about literally every single instance of somebody not white and male as being forced diversity, ok?

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Raze_Razel
09/10/20 6:28:06 PM
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Aculo posted...
then they go on to complain about literally every single instance of somebody not white and male as being forced diversity, ok?

Because the joke got old 10 years ago.....now it's just annoying.....
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Krazy_Kirby
09/10/20 6:32:33 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Imagine being such a bigot that diversity in media is a negative.


diversity just to be diverse isn't good for creative mediums
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
09/10/20 6:46:05 PM
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Lorthremar posted...
i love that your only defense is calling me an alt, zeus. i'm not an alt, i just don't post here because clowns like you aren't worth interacting with lmao. aren't you too busy defending trump and the murders of black people to interact with me?
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Lol. Hes been doing it and hes the biggest abuser of alts for poll voting and arguments. @Lorthremar Enjoy.

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Wanded
09/10/20 7:19:55 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
http://variety.com/2020/film/news/oscars-inclusion-standards-best-picture-diversity-1234762727
lol wtf

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OniRonin
09/10/20 7:26:46 PM
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MabinogiFan posted...
So you got nothing to rebuttal with?
what do you want me to rebut? 'gillete made an ad and it made me poop my diaper'?

Raze_Razel posted...
How about you defend that wet-cardboard pedestal first before lecturing anyone in the first place?

I would like to say stock trading is a hobby of mine, but how can I since you're driving the economy down anyways.

what does this mean. how am i driving the economy down. why would that mean you can't trade stocks. what is my wet cardboard pedestal. i literally. dont understand anytihng you said

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Blightzkrieg
09/10/20 7:33:02 PM
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Wanded posted...
lol wtf
Keep in mind that almost every movie ever made meets these requirements. It's just posturing.

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