Poll of the Day > Well, my boyfriend and I broke up

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Ogurisama
08/22/20 4:32:29 PM
#201:


BeerOnTap posted...
Yup, selfish.
How is not wanting to bring kids into a bad situation selfish? Jen explained that she would most likely continue the cycle of being a bad parent, and doesnt want to do that to a child. If you ask me thats the opposite of selfish

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wolfy42
08/22/20 4:38:19 PM
#202:


Ogurisama posted...
How is not wanting to bring kids into a bad situation selfish? Jen explained that she would most likely continue the cycle of being a bad parent, and doesnt want to do that to a child. If you ask me thats the opposite of selfish


Having children in some ways is the most selfish thing you can do, because you are removing all choice from the child, they don't get to choose to exist, you chose to create them. It's worse if you then abandon the child or if you are a bad parent, and it's why you should be responsible for any children you do have.

Adopting is much less selfish since you are helping a child that was already born (and I guess abandoned by it's parents. If you do want kids, you should ensure you can give them a good life before having them.

I would still love to have kids but there is no way I would at this point, I'm too old (although possibly not physically, IE I might still be able to have them), and it wouldn't be right. I would love to meet someone with kids someday and perhaps help to raise them, but I'm getting past the age where that is very likely as well (unless I get together with someone much younger than me).

It's completely not selfish to not have children though, it's commendable.

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Jen0125
08/22/20 4:38:49 PM
#203:


I don't think either of us are selfish. We just have different life goals.

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Blightzkrieg
08/22/20 4:50:31 PM
#204:


I bet Jen is a serial killer and half of us are already dead

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LinkPizza
08/22/20 4:58:28 PM
#205:


BeerOnTap posted...
He bailed on her because shes selfish and chose booze over their relationship.

Well, considering she was in rehab so she could stop drinking, that would probably be wrong as she was trying to not choose alcohol at all anymore...

BeerOnTap posted...
Who gets to keep the gun that you straw purchased for him? Hopefully not him, right? Since hes a felon and all.

Shell probably keep it. She could still learn how to use it...

BeerOnTap posted...
It sure seems like the whole kids thing was just a convenient excuse.

Maybe. Maybe not. He could be just trying to get her back. Who knows? The only one that knows in Mando. And youre not him...

BeerOnTap posted...
Well, yeah, I mean we all knew that.

With the way youre acting here, they seem more mature than you, tbh...

BeerOnTap posted...
Yup, selfish.

How so? I would think having kids when you dont want them or cant take care of them would be more selfish. Or are you just insulting someone for no reason...

DirtBasedSoap posted...
you are really not a good person lol

I agree...
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Jen0125
08/22/20 5:00:54 PM
#206:


To address the gun, I'll probably sell it back to a store before I leave the country or put it in storage.

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wolfy42
08/22/20 5:01:10 PM
#207:


Blightzkrieg posted...
I bet Jen is a serial killer and half of us are already dead


At least half of me is already dead.

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wolfy42
08/22/20 5:08:48 PM
#208:


Jen0125 posted...
To address the gun, I'll probably sell it back to a store before I leave the country or put it in storage.


Hide it somewhere with ammo in case of a fallout situation:)

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BeerOnTap
08/22/20 5:57:44 PM
#209:


LinkPizza posted...
Well, considering she was in rehab so she could stop drinking, that would probably be wrong as she was trying to not choose alcohol at all anymore...

Shell probably keep it. She could still learn how to use it...

Maybe. Maybe not. He could be just trying to get her back. Who knows? The only one that knows in Mando. And youre not him...

With the way youre acting here, they seem more mature than you, tbh...

How so? I would think having kids when you dont want them or cant take care of them would be more selfish. Or are you just insulting someone for no reason...

I agree...

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DirtBasedSoap
08/22/20 6:04:05 PM
#210:


BeerOnTap posted...
Cute white knight routine.
that doesnt really work in this situation considering link is a gay man

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jsb0714
08/22/20 6:49:06 PM
#211:


BeerOnTap posted...
Please, Jen has demeaned, insulted, and bullied plenty of people on here.
Perhaps less beer would help you.
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IAmNowGone
08/22/20 6:58:46 PM
#212:


Jen0125 posted...
To address the gun, I'll probably sell it back to a store before I leave the country or put it in storage.

or sell it to me bby
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OhhhJa
08/22/20 7:04:47 PM
#213:


Jen0125 posted...
Mando has been telling me he loves me every day when he hadn't said it at all in the past two and a half years

Sounds like he doesn't want to be with you but is afraid you might find someone else so he's trying to fuck your head up
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Jen0125
08/22/20 8:32:15 PM
#214:


OhhhJa posted...
Sounds like he doesn't want to be with you but is afraid you might find someone else so he's trying to fuck your head up

He's absolutely not that kind of person at all.

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OhhhJa
08/22/20 8:38:27 PM
#215:


Jen0125 posted...
He's absolutely not that kind of person at all.

Not saying it's some intentional sociopathic kinda thing. People are weird after breaking up. Might be unsure whether or not he wants to move on so is saying that to keep either of you from doing so
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Jen0125
08/22/20 8:39:53 PM
#216:


OhhhJa posted...
Not saying it's some intentional sociopathic kinda thing. People are weird after breaking up. Might be unsure whether or not he wants to move on so is saying that to keep either of you from doing so

He doesn't have the power over me to keep me from moving forward.

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wolfy42
08/22/20 8:40:49 PM
#217:


OhhhJa posted...
Not saying it's some intentional sociopathic kinda thing. People are weird after breaking up. Might be unsure whether or not he wants to move on so is saying that to keep either of you from doing so


Could just be he absolutely loves her, doesn't want to lose her from his life, but they both need to move into a different type of relationship, but he still wants her to know he loves her.

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Jen0125
08/22/20 8:41:46 PM
#218:


wolfy42 posted...
Could just be he absolutely loves her, doesn't want to lose her from his life, but they both need to move into a different type of relationship, but he still wants her to know he loves her.

This is it. He apologized for never telling me because he was scared and now he's telling me because it's partially led to ending our relationship as well.

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AWinterJ
08/22/20 9:32:20 PM
#219:


BeerOnTap posted...
Yup, selfish.

For a guy with your username I find it fitting you act so sensitive. Alcohol effects people in different ways it seems.

BeerOnTap posted...
Please, Jen has demeaned, insulted, and bullied plenty of people on here.

Who hasn't? It's just banta.

BeerOnTap posted...
Cute white knight routine.

Wow you sure put Link in his place with that one. I shouldn't post this. I don't want to be on the receiving end of that acid tongue of yours...

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WhiskeyDisk
08/22/20 9:47:15 PM
#220:


Look guys. Given the amount of time I've spent butting heads with Jen over the years, you'd be hard pressed to make an argument that I'm ever going to White Knight for her.

To be blunt, I find her distasteful and Judgemental. She came at me sideways for months for buying weed with unemployment funds that I'd paid into for 20 years. I've gone way deeper on every conceivable front regarding many drugs, and have never been to rehab or a psych ward.

All that being said, those of you that have known me for over a decade know damned well how finite my empathy is. If I'm not a psychopath, I'm definitely borderline in that regard.

I've literally *been the "Jen"* in the relationship as I described in great detail earlier in this topic. I'm entirely too wrapped up in myself to deal with the mewling of a child, and the laughter of children cuts through me like a razorblade.

Some people just don't want or cannot tolerate raising a child. If there is any point myself and Jen can agree on it is that for whatever reason. In my case, it is because I have zero patience and can't guarantee I wouldn't backhand my own child thru a wall at some point. I made peace with that realization over 20 years ago.

I won't speculate as to Jen's reasons, frankly I don't care. But I do understand an overarching desire to not raise a child.

The fact that many of you attack her for it because you're like fucking sharks in chummed water makes me angry. Call it whatever you like, but if you want to come at her sideways for it, by all means come at me too.

It's not a white Knight thing. Everyone has their reasons. I still love the girl that wanted kids with me, but we're never going to be compatible in that regard and that's just how the bones were going to fall.

Shit happens. The rock keeps spinning. We move onward. Not all women are obligated to make babies any more than all men are obligated to spread their seed.

Any more lip out of you fuckers and I'm taking my belt off. Come at me the way you've come at her.

I dare you.

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Jen0125
08/22/20 9:55:24 PM
#221:


To be fair, whiskey, I was really young when all that happened. I don't give a shit if people buy drugs with unemployment money anymore lmao I'm not the same as I used to be.

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argonautweakend
08/22/20 9:58:17 PM
#222:


I would never have kids other than adopting somebody older, at least after they can shit and piss on their own accord.

I could see raising somebody, but I am NOT dealing with an alien looking newborn baby I need to do literally everything for.
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WhiskeyDisk
08/22/20 10:07:50 PM
#223:


Jen0125 posted...
To be fair, whiskey, I was really young when all that happened. I don't give a shit if people buy drugs with unemployment money anymore lmao I'm not the same as I used to be.

I'm not bringing it up to put the screws to you or anything Groo, but it's there to provide context, especially in light of the tinychat topic.

For all the aspects some of you may find creepy and parochial in me from those days, others know it doesn't come from a bad place. It does however come from a very intense part of me that still survived a time when I had a Paladin complex. The odd intersection between my anger and the last surviving bit of my optimism.

Jen doesn't want kids, and she damn sure doesn't want *YOUR* kids.

Get over it.

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Aaantlion
08/22/20 10:18:48 PM
#224:


From the second Jen mentioned that he wanted kids and she didn't, I figured the relationship was probably doomed and just a matter of when it would end because it's a pretty fundamental issue upon which to disagree. And the fact that the issue kept coming up during their relationship should have been a red flag for both of them. For the boyfriend, he's just stupidly wasted 5-6 years when he could have found somebody else who was interested in starting a family... assuming he doesn't go back to her later and let this issue simmer for a few more years.

And, for what it's worth, not everybody wants to be a parent nor is everybody cut out for it.

Jen0125 posted...
But I only need to stay here a couple more years. I'm gonna finish my masters, get a TEFL, and then go teach English overseas after that.

Oo

It's certainly one way to see the world.

SpeeDLeemon posted...
Sorry to come off as an ass. I don't want kids.

But you gotta be clear with men because men are stupid

It isn't just men.

WhiskeyDisk posted...
Look guys. Given the amount of time I've spent butting heads with Jen over the years, you'd be hard pressed to make an argument that I'm ever going to White Knight for her.

To be blunt, I find her distasteful

Same boat. Not that suggesting that a woman who doesn't want kids shouldn't have them is white knighting.

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Jen0125
08/22/20 10:25:46 PM
#225:


Aaantlion posted...
For the boyfriend, he's just stupidly wasted 5-6 years when he could have found somebody else who was interested in starting a family...

I told him I feel genuinely bad that he wasted so many prime parenting years holding out for me to change my mind and that we were but unable to face that we should probably have ended the relationship a lot earlier. Maybe we just shouldn't have gotten back together after I went to rehab but we love each other so.. Sigh.

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VIN_C3
08/22/20 10:28:03 PM
#226:


are you going to make an OF now

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Jen0125
08/22/20 10:29:44 PM
#227:


VIN_C3 posted...
are you going to make an OF now

No lmao

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DirtBasedSoap
08/22/20 10:30:34 PM
#228:


wouldnt it just be so much easier if men could have ass babies?

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wolfy42
08/22/20 10:35:05 PM
#229:


DirtBasedSoap posted...
wouldnt it just be so much easier if men could have ass babies?


That would be a shitty way to give birth.

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Jen0125
08/22/20 10:35:55 PM
#230:


Badum tish

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DirtBasedSoap
08/22/20 10:38:11 PM
#231:


wolfy42 posted...
That would be a shitty way to give birth.
is it really that much worse than coming out of your moms vagina though? i mean think about it.

yeah i guess it is worse

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WhiskeyDisk
08/22/20 10:43:35 PM
#232:


Aaantlion posted...
Same boat. Not that suggesting that a woman who doesn't want kids shouldn't have them is white knighting.

That was a fucked up place to cut off my chain of thought in a quote, but at least you do understand where I'm coming from.

Jen isn't obligated to be a breeder any more than I am.

I would argue that it isn't selfish *OR* altruistic. It just is. Some people just don't want/can't have/ shouldn't have kids for whatever reason.

Be it hating the idea of sacrificing that much life force or killing a bloodline, or not resenting your offspring...if a kid isn't wanted, it shouldn't be born. Simple as that. Unless you're half of that equation that brings a child into the world, I don't think you get to have an opinion on whether others do or not.

The shit some of you are talking to her in context for her decision is pretty vile on a subject you have no standing in, frankly.

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AWinterJ
08/22/20 11:05:46 PM
#234:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
Any more lip out of you fuckers and I'm taking my belt off. Come at me the way you've come at her.

I dare you.

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JigsawTDC
08/22/20 11:08:17 PM
#235:


Jen0125 posted...
But I only need to stay here a couple more years. I'm gonna finish my masters, get a TEFL, and then go teach English overseas after that.

I strongly recommend a CELTA for the TEFL! I got one right before COVID hit. I've taught English in Sierra Leone and have a job lined up teaching in Japan next. I was supposed to leave in September but it's been postponed for a year unfortunately. But if you want any info on TEFL feel free to hit me up!
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Jen0125
08/22/20 11:11:18 PM
#236:


JigsawTDC posted...
I strongly recommend a CELTA for the TEFL! I got one right before COVID hit. I've taught English in Sierra Leone and have a job lined up teaching in Japan next. I was supposed to leave in September but it's been postponed for a year unfortunately. But if you want any info on TEFL feel free to hit me up!

TEFL I'm okay with but I'm gonna PM you about the process

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WhiskeyDisk
08/22/20 11:17:05 PM
#237:


AWinterJ posted...
https://i.imgur.com/7aPv72l.mp4

Just wondering how committed some of you are to to this schtick of being complete and total assholes really.

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Blightzkrieg
08/22/20 11:25:30 PM
#238:


Whiskey, I just want to fuck Jen. Please don't assume I have sinister disgusting motives when I don't.

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Tafrase
08/22/20 11:30:39 PM
#239:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
Just wondering how committed some of you are to to this schtick of being complete and total assholes really.

It's just the natural reaction you should expect when people are dealing with a trainwreck. A little bit of schadenfreude is good for you.

Blightzkrieg posted...
Whiskey, I just want to fuck Jen. Please don't assume I have sinister disgusting motives when I don't.

Well I suppose that makes one of us. To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't touch that drunken skank with a 30-foot poll. I've been luking on this board for the last several years, and the attention you losers heap on this creature is beyond belief.

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DirtBasedSoap
08/22/20 11:33:28 PM
#240:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Whiskey, I just want to fuck Jen. Please don't assume I have sinister disgusting motives when I don't.
lmao

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Jen0125
08/22/20 11:35:43 PM
#241:


Tafrase posted...
Well I suppose that makes one of us. To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't touch that drunken skank with a 30-foot poll. I've been luking on this board for the last several years, and the attention you losers heap on this creature is beyond belief.

You obviously don't lurk enough

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Tafrase
08/22/20 11:42:06 PM
#242:


Jen0125 posted...
You obviously don't lurk enough

No, way too much. One can only read about how you've hit the sauce or Taco Bell so many times before one detects a pattern. And let's not forget the countless other trivialities you've spewed in an attempt to hide the fact that you're really just a very boring person.


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Jen0125
08/22/20 11:43:13 PM
#243:


Tafrase posted...
No, way too much. One can only read about how some you've hit the sauce or Taco Bell so many times before one detects a pattern.

This is going to be the only time I'm going to bother responding to you. You're not interesting enough to be worth the effort. Do yourself a favor and shut your mouth.

Lmaoo you obviously don't lurk enough if you think I'm still drinking. Figure out what you're doing with your life. Bitterness is a sad trait.

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Tafrase
08/22/20 11:54:34 PM
#244:


Jen0125 posted...
Lmaoo you obviously don't lurk enough if you think I'm still drinking. Figure out what you're doing with your life. Bitterness is a sad trait.

Who's bitter? Don't confuse contempt with bitterness. As an alcoholic it's not your place to try looking down on others, anyways.

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Blightzkrieg
08/22/20 11:56:26 PM
#245:


Give yourself to the forbidden well my child

It is the dream of all PotDers young and old

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Metalsonic66
08/22/20 11:58:06 PM
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Tafrase
08/22/20 11:59:45 PM
#247:


Where's that psycho loser @WhiskeyDisk ? I'm in the mood for a good death threat or two right about now.

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Aaantlion
08/23/20 12:00:03 AM
#248:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
That was a fucked up place to cut off my chain of thought in a quote,

I clipped it there because you also called her judgmental, which I don't necessarily agree with. I only quoted the portions I considered relevant.

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Jen0125
08/23/20 12:02:09 AM
#249:


Tafrase posted...
Who's bitter? Don't confuse contempt with bitterness. As an alcoholic it's not your place to try looking down on others, anyways.

You seem bitter lmao

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Tafrase
08/23/20 12:04:34 AM
#250:


Jen0125 posted...
You seem bitter lmao

I'm not the one whining that my boyfriend dropped my ass like a hot brick. Show a little dignity.

This will be the last time I bother replying to you, or anyone else here for that matter; this autist den has ceased to be entertaining. I'll just leave you with this: A game forum is the worst place imaginable for advice on real-world problems. That goes double for relationship advice, unless you want to learn how to kill yourself like that loser @KogaSteelfang or how to screw yourself into diseased invalidity like that buttf****t @LinkPizza . Do yourself a favor and get professional help.

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