Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 308: The Board Eight Autonomous Topic

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Jakyl25 posted...

Finally hes listening to SmartMuffin

nothing more predictable than the immediate deletion and apology

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SmartMuffin posted...

nothing more predictable than the immediate deletion and apology

...has Trump ever apologised for anything?

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In local news, https://twitter.com/central_track/status/1277281015980011520

https://twitter.com/brynntannehill/status/1277211131430535168?s=21

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GildedFool posted...

...has Trump ever apologised for anything?

Access Hollywood, IIRC.

and of course later reporting said he regretted doing it and started floating the lie that it wasn't his voice on the tape

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xp1337 posted...

Access Hollywood, IIRC.

and of course later reporting said he regretted doing it and started floating the lie that it wasn't his voice on the tape

Even that was of a "sorry if you were offended, but it was locker room talk"

I think he also semi-apologized for "very fine people" and has reportedly since vented that it was the biggest mistake of his presidency (the apology, not sating that there were very fine people on both sides).

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Reg posted...

In local news, https://twitter.com/central_track/status/1277281015980011520

So its like a BLM protest, but with less arson?

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SmartMuffin posted...

So its like a BLM protest, but with less arson?

indoors, less masks, and the building they are in doesn't pay taxes so its not a real loss to the economy if they were to burn it down. Arguably it would be a net gain in terms of pure economics(I'm not saying burn it down, i'm talking in pure financial terms).

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SmartMuffin posted...

So its like a BLM protest, but with less arson?

It's like a black lives matter protest, but with zero justification as to why they need to endanger themselves and their community by being in such close proximity, other than self-centered entitlement.

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Inviso posted...

It's like a black lives matter protest, but with zero justification as to why they need to endanger themselves and their community by being in such close proximity, other than self-centered entitlement.

They are practicing their religion, so it's pretty much 100% the same as BLM.

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Can we just all agree to block SmartMuffin.

This isn't like red sox where some of us disagree on his motives. SmartMuffin has been nothing but desperately, openly racist for attention for some time, now.

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SmartMuffin posted...

They are practicing their religion, so it's pretty much 100% the same as BLM.

Their religion isn't under attack.

They don't need to be in a big building to practice it.

Just a bunch of spoiled, entitled snowflakes who don't care about anyone but themselves.

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StealThisSheen posted...

Can we just all agree to block SmartMuffin.

This isn't like red sox where some of us disagree on his motives. SmartMuffin has been nothing but desperately, openly racist for attention for some time, now.

I'm in. I know a few people blocked sox at my request a few weeks ago, only fair. Not like he's ever said anything worthwhile in a dozen years.

Feels good to clean these topics up on my side of the screen at least.

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finally

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My church is actually limiting attendance and taking temperatures at the door so we're doing it the right way.

We also live stream services so we encourage everyone to just watch from home on Facebook, especially if they are in a high risk demographic.

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StealThisSheen posted...

Can we just all agree to block SmartMuffin.

This isn't like red sox where some of us disagree on his motives. SmartMuffin has been nothing but desperately, openly racist for attention for some time, now.

Sox is worth keeping around because he'd flood the board with inane topics and the main purpose of these topics is to stop that shit from happening.

In SmartMuffin's case, I say absolutely block him. Let him start making his own topics again when he gets deprived of attention and see how long that lasts with him like this.

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kevwaffles posted...

Sox is worth keeping around because he'd flood the board with inane topics and the main purpose of these topics is to stop that shit from happening.

and then everybody else can ignore him too. it isn't like he contributes anything else that would make him worth keeping around. we shouldn't have to bear his burden

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StealThisSheen posted...

Can we just all agree to block SmartMuffin.

This isn't like red sox where some of us disagree on his motives. SmartMuffin has been nothing but desperately, openly racist for attention for some time, now.

I dont think it's purely for attention tbqh

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I dont think it's purely for attention tbqh

Oh, no. He's absolutely racist and it's not JUST for attention. But he's openly drawing attention to it in these topics for attention.

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StealThisSheen posted...

Can we just all agree to block SmartMuffin.

This isn't like red sox where some of us disagree on his motives. SmartMuffin has been nothing but desperately, openly racist for attention for some time, now.

Im in. Id hope whoever creates future topics does the same!

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I think we all knew deep down this is where this story was going to go but...

US intelligence assessments say the Russian bounties on US troops have resulted in the deaths of US troops.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1277393965499777036

Originally tried to link to WaPo's article directly but their links are too long but it's in the tweet.

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In our (deserved) continued criticism of Trump being a lazy piece of shit with no regard for human life, lets not rush to believe and yell about an unverified intelligence report that could very well lead us down the path to more war.

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So I've been going down a deep social media hole tonight. Hadn't done this in a long time.

I end up on the facebook page of some friend of a friend who I don't even know at all. Scrolling down and they've posted a bunch of right wing memes making fun of liberals and whatnot. One thing they posted was a video of a woman talking into the camera explaining why she chooses not to wear a mask, speaking in an overly polite voice that isn't authentic at all but "tries to be" if you know what I mean. Starts out by apologizing to all the liberals she's about to "trigger". Etc. Then later down in this person's timeline, within 12 hours of that post, they've shared a lengthy post about how difficult life was for people who were born in 1900 (just walks through all the death and suffering they lived through, etc.) and goes on to how nowadays people have so many conveniences in life and they just love to complain about any little thing. The post wraps up by saying how nobody should be complaining about having to wear a mask, instead just check your perspective and realize how well off you really are.

This person owned themselves so hard. I think they just got as far as "life isn't as hard as it used to be!" and assumed it was a right wing message.

So this got me thinking. Can anyone direct me to a self-respecting, successful conservative memer? I need to see something better than this.

turbopuns3 posted...

So I've been going down a deep social media hole tonight. Hadn't done this in a long time.

I end up on the facebook page of some friend of a friend who I don't even know at all. Scrolling down and they've posted a bunch of right wing memes making fun of liberals and whatnot. One thing they posted was a video of a woman talking into the camera explaining why she chooses not to wear a mask, speaking in an overly polite voice that isn't authentic at all but "tries to be" if you know what I mean. Starts out by apologizing to all the liberals she's about to "trigger". Etc. Then later down in this person's timeline, within 12 hours of that post, they've shared a lengthy post about how difficult life was for people who were born in 1900 (just walks through all the death and suffering they lived through, etc.) and goes on to how nowadays people have so many conveniences in life and they just love to complain about any little thing. The post wraps up by saying how nobody should be complaining about having to wear a mask, instead just check your perspective and realize how well off you really are.

This person owned themselves so hard. I think they just got as far as "life isn't as hard as it used to be!" and assumed it was a right wing message.

So this got me thinking. Can anyone direct me to a self-respecting, successful conservative memer? I need to see something better than this.

Anyone posting memes on social media who thinks the memes constitute a serious argument is not self-respecting and successful by definition.

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inb4 someone links to trump's twitter

Successful at memeing, not life, my dude

also I never said anything about serious arguments

Like, I know that in general "posts lots of memes" is going to describe liberals more often than conservatives, so the pool is smaller. But there's gotta be some good stuff out there. Memes that at the very least aren't just factually false or blatantly self-contradicting. Something that really makes me go "dang, they got me there!" whether it's silly or not

Trump knows his tweets do not contain serious arguments. He is a master troll who enjoys getting reactions out of people. I am honestly astounded how people keep falling for it over and over and over and over and over again. Don't get mad, don't argue with him, and by all means don't try to shut him down, just ignore him and you won't add fuel to the fire.

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Can anyone direct me to a self-respecting, successful conservative memer? I need to see something better than this.

self-respecting memer is an oxymoron
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turbopuns3 posted...

Like, I know that in general "posts lots of memes" is going to describe liberals more often than conservatives, so the pool is smaller. But there's gotta be some good stuff out there. Memes that at the very least aren't just factually false or blatantly self-contradicting. Something that really makes me go "dang, they got me there!" whether it's silly or not

I think that good memes are self-aware in the sense that it's clear the author does not actually believe that a complicated issue can be boiled down to a very simple thing. So, they can have a good amount of absurdity. I don't know if this is the kind of thing you're looking for but this is a really funny Tea Party video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

self-respecting memer is an oxymoron

and yet I feel it's clear what I'm trying to say! Quality memes, regardless of content.

I don't know if this qualifies as conservative, but this is an amazing meme:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/gz16gk/the_great_bear_depression_of_2020/

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red sox 777 posted...

this is a really funny Tea Party video:

"because the health care is too expensive"

red sox 777 posted...

I think that good memes are self-aware in the sense that it's clear the author does not actually believe that a complicated issue can be boiled down to a very simple thing. So, they can have a good amount of absurdity. I don't know if this is the kind of thing you're looking for but this is a really funny Tea Party video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k

That's a pretty amusing video.

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Police still rioting.

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1277273696365879296?s=09

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1277277199163367426?s=19

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1277606512345575431

SCOTUS with another 5-4 ruling where Roberts saves us from hell by joining The Squad (Breyer wrote the majority opinion, Roberts filed a concurrence, will probably get around to reading them soon this is just the news post).

SCOTUS struck down Louisiana's law that required abortion clinics to have admitting privileges with a nearby hospital - a requirement that was both unnecessary and cumbersome enough that it was basically causing almost all of them to be forced to close.

And while it's a win it's worth noting that both of Trump's picks - Gorsuch and Kavanaugh voted to uphold this law. And I'm seeing reporters note that Roberts only joined the liberal side here out of respect for the court's 2016 precedent where they struck down a near identical law from Texas rather than the reproductive rights argument set forth by the liberal wing. ...Which also means Kavanaugh's "respect for precedent" was bullshit and if not for Roberts actually possessing some shred of it this result would have flipped.

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There was an irate meltdown directed at Roberts over his last two betrayals on all the conservative leaning subreddits. I look forward to seeing how bad it gets this time!

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Suprak the Stud posted...

There was an irate meltdown directed at Roberts over his last two betrayals on all the conservative leaning subreddits. I look forward to seeing how bad it gets this time!

There might be some extra salt because Roberts was part of the dissent in the 2016 case that is his basis here for flipping because the decision in that case (which, again, he dissented from) is now precedent by stare decisis.


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Okay, reading now. The plurality opinion is nothing special really. Roberts's concurrence is basically, "y'all I'm going to write an essay on how I think you can get me to allow restrictions on abortion it's just you basically copy-pasted a law we struck down four years ago and I'd have to be a complete and total hack to break precedent and while 4 of colleagues are apparently cool with this I'm not. ...Don't... don't do that next time and maybe it'll go better."

Thomas's dissent begins with basically, "excuse me abortion clinics don't have a right to get an abortion so they lack standing here we should never have stepped in. Also abortion isn't in the Constitution the court invented it."

Alito writes a dissent (Gorsuch joins entirely. Thomas and Kavanaugh join for certain parts of it) wherein he whines at Roberts's face/heel (depending on perspective) turn from the 2016 case, echoes Thomas's standing complaint, "Texas and Louisiana are very different even if the statutes are almost the same!," "Look, we don't know it would have created an undue burden on women because we didn't let it go for a long enough trial run!," "Actually the doctors were acting in bad faith and didn't really try to get admitting privileges because if they had it would have hurt their case,"

Gorsuch dissents but now we're like over 110 pages in and even speed reading I'm getting tired and a lot of this is similar to the above two.

Kavanaugh dissents in a two-pager where he opens with a weird flex saying that 5 justices agree that the 2016 case was wrongly decided (including Roberts in here) while 5 justices agree that the 2016 case serves as precedent to decide this case (...the... the actual plurality in this case) and goes "I agree with the first group!" then says he agrees with Alito's bit about how "we can't know if those doctors really tried hard enough to get admitting privileges"

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SCOTUS also heard a challenge to the CFPB. Long story short: They found that the structure of the CFPB was unconstitutional because it only permitted the director to be fireable for cause and the court says the president can fire them for any reason. Other than that they find the underlying law creating the CFPB constitutional.

The upshot of this is it means Biden can just fire Trump's CFPB appointment should he win election.

Breakdown is a bit wonky for me but I think it goes like this: Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh said that the CFPB's leadership structure violated the separation of powers. Kagan wrote the dissent and was joined by Ginsberg, Breyer, and Sotomayor.

When it came down to severability (i.e. can we throw that part of the CFPB out without throwing out the entire thing) it was Roberts, Alito, Kavanaugh, Kagan, Ginsberg, Breyer, and Sotomayor who said "Yeah, this doesn't kill the whole thing, just fix that one part."

Thomas (joined by Gorsuch) seems to dissent with regard to the severability part by basically saying "we should just take the CFPB's teeth away then it wouldn't even matter anymore." I did find some humor in Thomas quoting "the buck stops with the President" in his discussion of executive power though given this president's take on it.

Comedy moment of the dissent (Kagan's dissent, that is, disagreeing that the CFPB leader being somewhat independent from the President is unconstitutional): This is a real quote from it. "Spoiler alert:"

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Dammit you didn't post the quote!

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Dammit you didn't post the quote!

wow i didn't think there was such a demand for scotus spoilers

Fine.

"What does the Constitution say about the separation of powers - and particularly about the President's removal authority? (Spoiler alert: about the latter, nothing at all.)"

Really I just found "Spoiler alert" being part of an actual SCOTUS dissent hilarious by itself but then my brain is overheating from speedreading these.

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Oh, that's so ridiculous I completely misunderstood that "spoiler alert" was the quote itself, and thought you just forgot to paste something in.

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Imagine trying to explain that to the supreme court of the late 1700s and early 1800s.

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Trump's Twitch account has been suspended for hate speech on stream.

This is also the first that I'm hearing he has a Twitch account.
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kevwaffles posted...

Trump's Twitch account has been suspended for hate speech on stream.

This is also the first that I'm hearing he has a Twitch account.

I heard he is joining Ninja and Shroud on a new streaming platform

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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/reddit-ban-the-donald-chapo-content-policy/613639/

R/t_d is gone

Am I late on this

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Look forward to bitching about this being Trump's number 1 priority for the next few weeks.

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Im legitimately shocked they finally banned the Donald. It seemed like they really didnt want to go all the way.
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Expected court decisions today. Roberts is not terribly conservative and he is extremely dedicated to precedent.

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eh, t_d has been long dead and moved offsite anyhow

r/gendercritical getting knocked out tho hell yeah

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