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Xuxon
12/08/19 7:00:54 PM
#101:


Jakyl25 posted...
Yeah they are eliminated.

If they win out, then theyd be in a 6-10 tie with only the Cowboys, who already swept them this season
the Eagles would be tied as well, but they'd be eliminated by the 3-way tiebreaker being 1-3 against the Giants+Cowboys combined.

i think. that or they'd be eliminated for their divisional record. either way, it goes back to Cowboys > Giants head to head like you said.

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Dr_Football
12/08/19 7:02:49 PM
#102:


The refs sure are not helping the home team today

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xp1337
12/08/19 7:04:50 PM
#103:


zero sympathy for the patriots but they got hosed on the not-a-td call they couldn't challenge.

Not necessarily because the refs simply missed a call, but because I'm 99% sure they're instructed to rule a TD there specifically because it triggers automatic review.

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davidponte
12/08/19 7:08:59 PM
#104:


Im at a work party but Twitter is telling me the Pats are getting screwed by the refs. I believe that's the first time that sentence has ever been typed.
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Leonhart4
12/08/19 7:11:33 PM
#105:


Whew, glad to see the Titans have pulled away in the second half. With two games against the Texans in our last three games, we're in control of our playoff destiny now.

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Leonhart4
12/08/19 7:13:25 PM
#106:


Jakyl25 posted...
Nope. Still a Giants vs Washington game

Oh right, Washington had to win today for that scenario to be alive.

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xp1337
12/08/19 7:17:06 PM
#107:


davidponte posted...
Im at a work party but Twitter is telling me the Pats are getting screwed by the refs. I believe that's the first time that sentence has ever been typed.
First was a case where a fumble was whistled dead on the field as down by contact. Pats challenged and won (but was their last challenge since they lost the other) but it's the classic case of "because it was whistled dead on the field you can't give them the return just possession at the spot of the clear recovery" thing.

Second was a rule of out-of-bounds on the 3 after a small extended discussion when replay clearly showed he stayed in (and tbqh it seemed that way live to me too.) Because Patriots were out of challenges from before they couldn't do anything about it. Drive ended in a FG.

That's the summary of why you're seeing that. Both cases where I'm pretty sure the refs did the thing they're not supposed to do in unclear situations. Second feels more egregious though because it's a case where they're clearly wrong on replay. First sucks but happens occasionally to teams (Even though, again, pretty sure refs are instructed to let it play out and deal with it in the automatic review of a turnover/score)

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xp1337
12/08/19 7:19:25 PM
#108:


Leonhart4 posted...
Whew, glad to see the Titans have pulled away in the second half. With two games against the Texans in our last three games, we're in control of our playoff destiny now.
Huh, for some reason (this is legit one of the weird questions that drifts through my head at times) I thought there was an unspoken rule that rematches had to be spaced out with at least two games in the middle, not just one.

Guess not!

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ertyu0078
12/08/19 7:23:01 PM
#109:


Yes titans win bring on the Texans
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Xuxon
12/08/19 7:25:00 PM
#110:


Leonhart4 posted...
Whew, glad to see the Titans have pulled away in the second half. With two games against the Texans in our last three games, we're in control of our playoff destiny now.
i believe that Raiders loss also means the Bills can clinch a playoff spot with 1 more win regardless of what other teams do.

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Dr_Football
12/08/19 7:38:42 PM
#111:


I will take a BS victory over the Pats every day

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davidponte
12/08/19 7:42:05 PM
#112:


I'm 98% sure if they came back and won it would have been solely because you guys spent a page devising how they'll lose the first round bye
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xp1337
12/08/19 7:48:51 PM
#114:


That wasn't what we were doing! I mean, yes, they lose the bye in that scenario but we were talking about divisions.

If we were devising scenarios where they lose the bye it would have been a lot easier! Lose to Bills, Chiefs win out. Done. (and ravens win 1 of 3 technically)

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Leonhart4
12/08/19 8:06:58 PM
#115:


I'm glad to have the Steelers D/ST on days like today but I'm gonna need them to lose a couple games to help the Titans out in case we don't win the division.

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ertyu0078
12/08/19 8:11:37 PM
#116:


What ever can beat the Texans
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Leonhart4
12/08/19 8:15:06 PM
#117:


The Titans are bad against their own division and pretty good against everyone else. That tends to be how that goes for us lately. I don't expect us to sweep so I'm hoping for a split.

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Xuxon
12/08/19 8:18:50 PM
#118:


Leonhart4 posted...
The Titans are bad against their own division and pretty good against everyone else. That tends to be how that goes for us lately. I don't expect us to sweep so I'm hoping for a split.
the Texans' other game is against the Bucs and they win in a tie while the Titans' other game is against the Saints so you might wanna think more about that sweep

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neonreaper
12/08/19 8:19:35 PM
#119:


on to Cincinnatti

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Leonhart4
12/08/19 8:22:48 PM
#120:


Xuxon posted...
the Texans' other game is against the Bucs and they win in a tie while the Titans' other game is against the Saints so you might wanna think more about that sweep

Oh, I fully expect us to win the first and get flexed to the Week 17 primetime game for the division, which we always, always lose.

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LeonhartFour
12/08/19 9:51:24 PM
#121:


Rams might have decided too late to start playing well.

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GranzonEx
12/08/19 10:31:47 PM
#122:


Kraft forgot to pay the refs today

screwed out of 2 chances at a TD

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MZero11
12/08/19 10:54:09 PM
#123:


I don't understand why refs whistle plays dead when it might have been a fumble. Just let them play and fix it later if necessary (all turnovers are reviewed anyway, right?) Yes, I know the Patriots benefited from the same thing in the AFC Championship against the Jags a few years ago. They should have changed it then.

I'm not blaming the refs though. The Patriots deserved to lose that game

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LeonhartFour
12/08/19 10:57:09 PM
#124:


Sometimes they don't realize there's a fumble when they blow it dead. It's not always immediately obvious.

Not saying that's what happened here. I didn't see the game.

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LeonhartFour
12/08/19 10:57:27 PM
#125:


also Jameis Winston has thrown an INT on his first pass of the game three times this season

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LeonhartFour
12/08/19 11:01:59 PM
#126:


I'm watching NFL Primetime on ESPN+ and Chris Berman literally made an "I am the Eggman" reference

my mind is blown

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 11:02:36 PM
#127:


You realize thats a Beatles reference
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LeonhartFour
12/08/19 11:03:31 PM
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Jakyl25
12/08/19 11:06:21 PM
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Fastbreak
12/09/19 1:26:24 PM
#130:


It's hard to think that anyone could ever usurp Gronk as my favorite tight end

But man Kittle is really going to try

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Emeraldegg
12/09/19 2:31:38 PM
#131:


Cowboys cut kicker maher, sign forbath.
All their problems are solved!
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Leonhart4
12/09/19 3:52:40 PM
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davidponte
12/09/19 6:26:08 PM
#133:


I need Barkley to get less than 18 points tonight in zero PPR to advance to the semi-finals. He's only reached that mark twice this season so it's definitely happening.
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LeonhartFour
12/09/19 6:26:36 PM
#134:


davidponte posted...
I need Barkley to get less than 18 points tonight in zero PPR to advance to the semi-finals. He's only reached that mark twice this season so it's definitely happening.

Eli's going to feed Barkley something fierce

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LeonhartFour
12/09/19 10:02:37 PM
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linid0t
12/09/19 10:59:43 PM
#136:


Eli made a few good throws man I'm happy for him
7th all time in total TDs now
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Nelson_Mandela
12/10/19 11:13:14 AM
#137:


https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/12/9/21003856/new-england-patriots-cincinnati-bengals-video-tape-investigation-spygate

Imagine needing to cheat to beat the Bengals

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Nelson_Mandela
12/10/19 11:14:18 AM
#138:


https://twitter.com/EricLilly7/status/1204186384837283840?s=19

God they are scum

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neonreaper
12/10/19 11:20:04 AM
#139:


as long as we get a bye week and a home game in the playoffs, Im fine with it


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neonreaper
12/10/19 11:22:03 AM
#140:


(Its a stadium filled with tens of thousands of people capable of filming the sideline, who cares)

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Jakyl25
12/10/19 3:29:04 PM
#141:


After the Lions 20-7 loss to the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday pushed their losing streak to six games and dropped them 3-9-1, head coach Matt Patricia made an interesting comment: The hard thing for us and what I appreciate about this team is we dont look at our record and say, This is what we are, Patricia said. I think we look at our record and say, Thats not what we are, and we got to do better, and we have to try and figure out how to get the record to match up with what we are. Thats kind of where were struggling right now.


Doesnt that kind of...directly imply that the problem is the coaching?
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LeonhartFour
12/10/19 8:04:38 PM
#142:


the Lions haven't won a game since those blown calls against the Packers that would have put them in first place in the NFC North

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ExThaNemesis
12/10/19 8:09:46 PM
#143:


The referees literally ended Detroit's season in that game. They absolutely should've won.

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Jakyl25
12/10/19 8:19:07 PM
#144:


I dont know if being 4-8-1 is really that much better than being 3-9-1 from a successful season standpoint

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FFDragon
12/10/19 8:24:18 PM
#145:


4-8-1 is hella competitive on the NFC East!

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xp1337
12/10/19 8:27:26 PM
#146:


i mean you'd basically control your own destiny there

cheatriots shook over the 1-win bengals time to forfeit their entire 2020 draft

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KommunistKoala
12/10/19 8:41:51 PM
#147:


the refs broke stafford's back

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GranzonEx
12/10/19 9:38:54 PM
#148:


xp1337 posted...
i mean you'd basically control your own destiny there

cheatriots shook over the 1-win bengals time to forfeit their entire 2020 draft
now I know where our scouting budget has gone

if only Belicheat would send these guys to colleges to scout future talent instead of the literal Browns press box to steal the literal Bengals signals

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Reg
12/10/19 9:46:32 PM
#149:


Jakyl25 posted...
I dont know if being 4-8-1 is really that much better than being 3-9-1 from a successful season standpoint
I mean, if you're a believer in things like momentum and the X Factor, you could definitely see them winning some of the games they've lost since then as well
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Jakyl25
12/10/19 10:55:50 PM
#150:


Reg posted...

I mean, if you're a believer in things like momentum and the X Factor, you could definitely see them winning some of the games they've lost since then as well


If a team gets so down about getting screwed in one game that they give up on the rest of the season, theyre not a team of winners.
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Jakyl25
12/10/19 10:56:24 PM
#151:


Also momentum exists but only within games. Game-to-game momentum is a myth
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