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LinkPizza 11/29/19 2:38:39 PM #1: |
Do you think they should have seatbelts?
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It seems like adding them could cost the school districts 10 of millions of dollars... But the federal government of whoever says that school buses are safe enough, as only like 6 children die on them each year, out of the like 23 million that ride them, or so... Which is a pretty low number... What do you guys think? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu8LDgiDTzY --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 11/29/19 3:01:49 PM #2: |
They should definitely have them, but I'd be fine with applying that moving forward (new buses must have them) instead of retrofitting entire existing fleets. That'd make the cost a whole lot less prohibitive. It'd also do nothing to improve the safety of existing buses, but it's better than the current "it'd cost too much to do the whole thing so let's just do nothing at all" approach.
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VeeVees 11/29/19 3:06:35 PM #3: |
no, it's easy to make more kids
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CTLM 11/29/19 3:10:50 PM #4: |
They are supposed to. Every bus I rode on as a kid/ teen had them. Doesn't mean kids will wear them
But yes; the whole "cost prohibitive" argument is always used. People don't want to pay for them but they won't magically appear and go on the buses themselves. adjl posted... It'd also do nothing to improve the safety of existing buses... You don't think seatbelts would do anything to improve their chances of surviving or reducing possible injuries? Last I knew, being rolled around inside any vehicle during a crash wasn't good for the body ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/29/19 3:14:36 PM #5: |
Kids are getting fatter and have more padding so they probably arent necessary
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adjl 11/29/19 3:16:34 PM #6: |
CTLM posted...
You don't think seatbelts would do anything to improve their chances of surviving or reducing possible injuries? Last I knew, being rolled around inside any vehicle during a crash wasn't good for the body Perhaps I phrased it poorly, I meant that my suggestion of making sure new buses have seatbelts without retrofitting old ones wouldn't improve the safety of old ones (since it'd do nothing to them at all). Obviously, adding seatbelts to older buses would make them safer. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Greenfox111 11/29/19 3:17:40 PM #7: |
Every school bus ive been on has had seatbelts, but we were never forced to put them on. And so no one used them.
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LinkPizza 11/29/19 3:29:48 PM #8: |
I feel that making the kids wear them would be another problem, as well... Though, making the new buses with seatbelts would be good...
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SunWuKung420 11/29/19 4:31:47 PM #9: |
Why install something few kids would use? The bus driver isn't going to have time to make sure they wear them and adding an assistant to ensure is just another employee to pay to babysit children that will be unruly just to be.
I think a better idea is more rigid, constant testing to ensure adult drivers are capable and being responsible. But then again, the amount of idiot drivers I see looking at their phone constantly is much larger problem. --- Align your chakras, it starts with your breathing. http://www.arfalpha.com/ScienceOfBreath/ScienceOfBreath.htm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CTLM 11/29/19 4:45:37 PM #10: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Why install something few kids would use? The bus driver isn't going to have time to make sure they wear them and adding an assistant to ensure is just another employee to pay to babysit children that will be unruly just to be. More rigid and constant testing? Well considering a lot of schools already have shortages of drivers thanks to the kids' behaviors, low pay and just all around low desirability of the job... you'll have no one left to drive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ogurisama 11/29/19 4:48:00 PM #11: |
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SunWuKung420 11/29/19 4:52:53 PM #12: |
CTLM posted...
More rigid and constant testing? For all drivers, not just bus drivers. --- Align your chakras, it starts with your breathing. http://www.arfalpha.com/ScienceOfBreath/ScienceOfBreath.htm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smarkil 11/29/19 4:59:42 PM #13: |
I drove buses, including school buses, for a while. From what I understand, they're not really necessary for safety with the exception of the driver (mostly to maintain control). If you have an object that's tens of thousands of pounds with an extremely rigid frame, the transfer of energy that would occur from an accident seldom is great enough to warrant serious injury to passengers. If a bus hits pretty much any other vehicle or a great deal of buildings, that thing ain't stopping. The only injury that can really occur is from a rollover, but that's pretty rare and drivers are supposed to be trained in such a way that it should never happen.
Couple that with the fact that kids would never wear them, might use them to hit other kids because kids are assholes, and the cost and maintenance, it's not really all that feasible. Hell, I had trouble enough just getting the shitheads to sit in a seat at all, let alone put on a seatbelt. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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retro_9980 11/29/19 5:00:21 PM #14: |
They should have always have had seat
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EvilMegas 11/29/19 7:19:10 PM #15: |
Having that many seatbelts could end up being a hazard in itself. Imagine having to pry 10 or so kids out of a burning bus.
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WhiskeyDisk 11/29/19 7:25:42 PM #16: |
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Revelation34 11/29/19 7:29:51 PM #17: |
CTLM posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...Why install something few kids would use? The bus driver isn't going to have time to make sure they wear them and adding an assistant to ensure is just another employee to pay to babysit children that will be unruly just to be. Or the drivers are in jail after assaulting kids. EvilMegas posted... Having that many seatbelts could end up being a hazard in itself. Imagine having to pry 10 or so kids out of a burning bus. Yeah because that always happens. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/29/19 8:21:14 PM #18: |
Revelation34 posted...
Yeah because that always happens. Well, it doesnt happen. But that could be because there are no seat belts on the bus... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 11/29/19 9:01:47 PM #19: |
All public transport should.
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Moonjay 11/29/19 9:08:42 PM #20: |
Now I'm imagining a setup kind of like a roller coaster. Bars come down and lock in place and the kids would have no choice. Hahaha.
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aHappySacka 11/29/19 9:09:35 PM #21: |
I thought they stopped putting seatbelts on school buses because they didn't do that much to increase safety and instead endangered children in some cases.
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EvilMegas 11/29/19 9:57:56 PM #22: |
LinkPizza posted...
Revelation34 posted...Yeah because that always happens. Yeah, I don't get what he's trying to say. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LOLIAmAnAlt 11/29/19 10:00:23 PM #23: |
I'd rather it just be Otto driving all the busses, but what do i know.
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Revelation34 11/29/19 10:09:06 PM #24: |
LinkPizza posted...
Revelation34 posted...Yeah because that always happens. My point was that that's an extreme situation. Extremely rare for seatbelt situations to happen like that. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/29/19 10:15:44 PM #25: |
Revelation34 posted...
LinkPizza posted...Revelation34 posted...Yeah because that always happens. It is a rare situation. Thats wry true. But death is, as well. For kids on a school bus, that is. Averaging 6 out of 23 million gets you 0.00002609% of kids that die on a bus... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhiskeyDisk 11/29/19 10:32:47 PM #26: |
aHappySacka posted...
I thought they stopped putting seatbelts on school buses because they didn't do that much to increase safety and instead endangered children in some cases. If I'm being serious, iirc is has to do with what would happen if the bus were broadsided or otherwise put into a sideways roll. There's a reason the seats and the seat backings are like a foot thick foam pad. --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvilMegas 11/29/19 10:39:15 PM #27: |
Revelation34 posted...
LinkPizza posted...Revelation34 posted...Yeah because that always happens. You're acting like it's not possible. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fierce_Deity_08 11/30/19 12:30:38 AM #28: |
I was in a school bus accident in sixth grade. The bus went off the road into a ditch. Only one kid was hurt, no seatbelts. They would probably work well in a more intense accident though.
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Blaqthourne 11/30/19 1:03:08 AM #29: |
https://www.wonderopolis.org/wonder/why-arent-seat-belts-required-on-school-buses
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Kyuubi4269 11/30/19 2:09:49 AM #30: |
Normal buses don't have seatbelts, idc.
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waterdeepchu 11/30/19 6:45:14 AM #31: |
From: https://www.wonderopolis.org/wonder/why-arent-seat-belts-required-on-school-buses
Modern school buses are large and heavy, and their passengers sit high off the ground. This means they are remarkably safe. Each year, over 400,000 public school buses carry almost 25 million children more than 4 billion miles. Yet, fewer than 10 children die each year in school bus accidents, and studies show that seat belts would not have prevented most of those deaths. By way of comparison, about 800 children die each year while walking, biking, or riding in a passenger car to or from school. The National Safety Council concluded that school buses are 40 times safer than the average family car, making them the safest of all forms of ground transportation. School buses are designed to be safe. School bus seats have high backs and lots of cushioning. In addition, they're packed together tightly to achieve compartmentalization. In the event of a crash, the seats absorb most of the impact, protecting the children who sit in them. Not only would adding seat belts to school buses be costly, experts cannot agree on what type of seat belts should even be used. Because children tend to move around a lot, there's no guarantee they would use seat belts, if installed, or use them properly. Bus drivers certainly cannot be tasked with enforcing proper seat belt use, because their attention must remain focused on the task of driving. --- Friend Code: 2707-2146-0610 Ditto, Kecleon, Lillipup ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 11/30/19 6:47:16 AM #32: |
EvilMegas posted...
LinkPizza posted...Revelation34 posted...Yeah because that always happens. It's link. He posts every single possible scenario as if they all have the same odds of happening. --- Align your chakras, it starts with your breathing. http://www.arfalpha.com/ScienceOfBreath/ScienceOfBreath.htm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bulbinking 11/30/19 6:53:01 AM #33: |
VeeVees posted...
no, it's easy to make more kids I like your style. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 11/30/19 8:05:53 AM #34: |
I remeber asking about it as a kid and was given some excuse along the lines of how much time it would take to free every kid safely if the bus was flipped and they where hanging upside down.
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wolfy42 11/30/19 8:14:16 AM #35: |
Forget belts, they should just install full harness/chains to keep the kids stationary while driving, along with muzzles of course so they are quiet, and a control pannel that lets you shock them at will if they do act out anyway.
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Blighboy 11/30/19 8:19:49 AM #36: |
If you put spikes on the sides of the buses nobody would crash into them
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wolfy42 11/30/19 8:32:23 AM #37: |
Blighboy posted...
If you put spikes on the sides of the buses nobody would crash into them Car Wars!!! Gotta add the flamethrowers as well man, they are the best:) --- Zangulus "I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 11/30/19 10:34:13 AM #38: |
You don't need seatbelts. The seat in front of you doubles as an airbag. LMAO
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LinkPizza 11/30/19 10:51:58 AM #39: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
EvilMegas posted...LinkPizza posted...Revelation34 posted...Yeah because that always happens. What the hell are you talking about? And when did I do that? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dedbus 11/30/19 6:17:13 PM #40: |
No they should be like a giant pick up truck to haul them around.
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Yellow 11/30/19 6:45:21 PM #41: |
Nah seems like a bad idea overall to replace all the seats.
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Smarkil 11/30/19 8:05:21 PM #42: |
I would also like to mention that seatbelts are a big problem if people have to get out of the bus quickly, which is a fairly common concern compared to the safety they would provide. It's one thing to have seatbelts in a car where its just a few people but when you have 52 panicked 1st graders trying to unbuckle themselves and one adult - it becomes a huge problem if say there's a fire at the front of the bus.
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GanonsSpirit 11/30/19 8:10:12 PM #43: |
Blighboy posted...
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Revelation34 11/30/19 8:22:54 PM #44: |
Smarkil posted...
I would also like to mention that seatbelts are a big problem if people have to get out of the bus quickly, which is a fairly common concern compared to the safety they would provide. It's one thing to have seatbelts in a car where its just a few people but when you have 52 panicked 1st graders trying to unbuckle themselves and one adult - it becomes a huge problem if say there's a fire at the front of the bus. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/78210897/930890105 --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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