Poll of the Day > The absolute ironic thing about Trump's ban on vaping is how it's just big govt.

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WastelandCowboy 09/14/19 1:59:44 PM #1:	Big government telling you what you can and can't do - the complete opposite of what his party (Republican) wants. They don't want to be told that they can't vape because it's unhealthy. The registered voters of the Republican party likely damn well know that it's unhealthy, but it's a cheaper and cleaner alternative to smoking so to be told that they can't do it goes against everything they strive for. I'm willing to bet that Trump, once he gets enough push-back on this, will cave in and blame someone else (Democrats) for the push-back instead of admitting that he was wrong. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:927430544] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Big government telling you what you can and can't do - the complete opposite of what his party (Republican) wants. They don't want to be told that they can't vape because it's unhealthy. The registered voters of the Republican party likely damn well know that it's unhealthy, but it's a cheaper and cleaner alternative to smoking so to be told that they can't do it goes against everything they strive for. I'm willing to bet that Trump, once he gets enough push-back on this, will cave in and blame someone else (Democrats) for the push-back instead of admitting that he was wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 09/14/19 2:11:36 PM #2:	WastelandCowboy posted... the complete opposite of what his party (Republican) wants. You mean what they claim to be against, but are actually fine with. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:927430966] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote> the complete opposite of what his party (Republican) wants. </quote> You mean what they claim to be against, but are actually fine with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeerOnTap 09/14/19 2:54:01 PM #3:	The executive should NOT have the power to enact executive orders. It was bad when Obama did them. And its bad now that Trump is doing them. Republicans need to call this out. It is not the role of government to keep me from using a potentially harmful substance. I could drink the bleach under my sink right now, and it would almost certainly kill me. Should government ban bleach? <cite>BeerOnTap posted [p:927432673] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>The executive should NOT have the power to enact executive orders. It was bad when Obama did them. And its bad now that Trump is doing them. Republicans need to call this out. It is not the role of government to keep me from using a potentially harmful substance. I could drink the bleach under my sink right now, and it would almost certainly kill me. Should government ban bleach?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/14/19 2:54:47 PM #4:	#NannyState --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:927432707] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>#NannyState </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornedLion 09/14/19 3:40:22 PM #5:	Exactly, TC. And now hes talking about San Fransisco and how they have a problem. Too many homeless people, and if they dont take careful of it hes gonna have to step in and do something about it. Big government again. Oh! And he wants to put them all together in one location, indefinitely. You know, like those evil illegal immigrants. No court, just detained. Where have I heard of this happening to others before? --- :) <cite>HornedLion posted [p:927434338] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Exactly, TC. And now hes talking about San Fransisco and how they have a problem. Too many homeless people, and if they dont take careful of it hes gonna have to step in and do something about it. Big government again. Oh! And he wants to put them all together in one location, indefinitely. You know, like those evil illegal immigrants. No court, just detained. Where have I heard of this happening to others before?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 09/14/19 3:50:11 PM #6:	Wait, I thought it was only a ban in certain public settings? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:927434712] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Wait, I thought it was only a ban in certain public settings?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/14/19 4:44:26 PM #7:	WastelandCowboy posted... Big government telling you what you can and can't do Nothing new then. "Nanny state". --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927436625] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Big government telling you what you can and can't do</quote> Nothing new then. "Nanny state".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 09/14/19 5:04:34 PM #8:	Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:927437354] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/14/19 5:28:46 PM #9:	Hop103 posted... Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric. 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing? --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:927438253] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric.</quote> 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/14/19 5:39:54 PM #10:	SunWuKung420 posted... 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing? Only for you. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927438693] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing?</quote> Only for you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/14/19 5:52:25 PM #11:	Phantom_Nook posted... WastelandCowboy posted... the complete opposite of what his party (Republican) wants. You mean what they claim to be against, but are actually fine with. "Both parties want to take away your freedoms. They just disagree on which freedoms they want to take away." "Both parties are extremely quick to condemn their opponents as uncaring bureaucrats who don't care about the common man, and are more interested in playing politics and pushing their own agendas no matter how harmful. The best part is, they're both right." --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:927439171] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote> the complete opposite of what his party (Republican) wants. </quote> You mean what they claim to be against, but are actually fine with.</quote> "Both parties want to take away your freedoms. They just disagree on which freedoms they want to take away." "Both parties are extremely quick to condemn their opponents as uncaring bureaucrats who don't care about the common man, and are more interested in playing politics and pushing their own agendas no matter how harmful. The best part is, they're both right."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 09/14/19 6:10:04 PM #12:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Phantom_Nook posted... WastelandCowboy posted... the complete opposite of what his party (Republican) wants. You mean what they claim to be against, but are actually fine with. "Both parties want to take away your freedoms. They just disagree on which freedoms they want to take away." "Both parties are extremely quick to condemn their opponents as uncaring bureaucrats who don't care about the common man, and are more interested in playing politics and pushing their own agendas no matter how harmful. The best part is, they're both right." bOtH sIdEs --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:927439834] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote> the complete opposite of what his party (Republican) wants. </quote> You mean what they claim to be against, but are actually fine with.</quote> "Both parties want to take away your freedoms. They just disagree on which freedoms they want to take away." "Both parties are extremely quick to condemn their opponents as uncaring bureaucrats who don't care about the common man, and are more interested in playing politics and pushing their own agendas no matter how harmful. The best part is, they're both right."</quote> bOtH sIdEs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/14/19 6:59:03 PM #13:	WastelandCowboy posted... I'm willing to bet that Trump, once he gets enough push-back on this, will cave in and blame someone else (Democrats) for the push-back instead of admitting that he was wrong. The guy at my job is already blaming the democrats for it... Though, he blames democrats for everything... Mead posted... #NannyState Basically... Hop103 posted... Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric. But it seems to be a better and safer alternative... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927441605] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>I'm willing to bet that Trump, once he gets enough push-back on this, will cave in and blame someone else (Democrats) for the push-back instead of admitting that he was wrong.</quote> The guy at my job is already blaming the democrats for it... Though, he blames democrats for everything... Mead posted...</cite> <quote>#NannyState </quote> Basically... Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric.</quote> But it seems to be a better and safer alternative...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/14/19 7:01:41 PM #14:	LinkPizza posted... But it seems to be a better and safer alternative... It is the lesser of two evils. At the end of the day smokers need all the help they can get getting off that. I'm aware some folk vape for fun and "the taste" but in general vaping is a quit smoking aid. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927441704] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But it seems to be a better and safer alternative...</quote> It is the lesser of two evils. At the end of the day smokers need all the help they can get getting off that. I'm aware some folk vape for fun and "the taste" but in general vaping is a quit smoking aid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/14/19 7:16:39 PM #15:	LinkPizza posted... But it seems to be a better and safer alternative... I mean, the list of things that aren't better/safer than smoking is pretty short, and consists mostly of various hemorrhages. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:927442218] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But it seems to be a better and safer alternative...</quote> I mean, the list of things that aren't better/safer than smoking is pretty short, and consists mostly of various hemorrhages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 09/14/19 7:18:43 PM #16:	wwinterj25 posted... LinkPizza posted... But it seems to be a better and safer alternative... It is the lesser of two evils. At the end of the day smokers need all the help they can get getting off that. I'm aware some folk vape for fun and "the taste" but in general vaping is a quit smoking aid. But whos to say what people shouldnt do? Nobody. People are capable of making their own decisions. If they want to smoke, thats their choice. If they want to drink, cool. If they want to shoot heroin, smoke meth, get high, whatever, all the more power to them. They government should not have the ability to tell people what they can and cannot do with their body. You dont see the government stepping in to get people to stop eating junk food and drinking soda - two unhealthy things to do. So why stop at drugs? <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:927442276] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But it seems to be a better and safer alternative...</quote> It is the lesser of two evils. At the end of the day smokers need all the help they can get getting off that. I'm aware some folk vape for fun and "the taste" but in general vaping is a quit smoking aid.</quote> But whos to say what people shouldnt do? Nobody. People are capable of making their own decisions. If they want to smoke, thats their choice. If they want to drink, cool. If they want to shoot heroin, smoke meth, get high, whatever, all the more power to them. They government should not have the ability to tell people what they can and cannot do with their body. You dont see the government stepping in to get people to stop eating junk food and drinking soda - two unhealthy things to do. So why stop at drugs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 09/14/19 8:03:34 PM #17:	you don't taste things with your lungz that's why --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:927443828] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>you don't taste things with your lungz that's why</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 09/14/19 8:29:18 PM #18:	WastelandCowboy posted... You dont see the government stepping in to get people to stop eating junk food and drinking soda i mean have you heard of new york and yes, one of the things Michelle Obama tried to do was get kids to eat healthier and not junk food --- // / <cite>likehelly posted [p:927444669] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>You dont see the government stepping in to get people to stop eating junk food and drinking soda</quote> i mean have you heard of new york and yes, one of the things Michelle Obama tried to do was get kids to eat healthier and not junk food</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/14/19 9:04:58 PM #19:	likehelly posted... one of the things Michelle Obama tried to do was get kids to eat healthier and not junk food Such a terrible thing! --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:927445838] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote>one of the things Michelle Obama tried to do was get kids to eat healthier and not junk food</quote> Such a terrible thing!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/14/19 9:08:56 PM #20:	You seem to forget that all politicians act in this manner. They have different ideas of what the system should be, but when they can make a change, they act on self-interest first. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927445961] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>You seem to forget that all politicians act in this manner. They have different ideas of what the system should be, but when they can make a change, they act on self-interest first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/15/19 12:01:02 AM #21:	WastelandCowboy posted... But whos to say what people shouldnt do? Nobody. It is indeed their own choice. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927452401] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>But whos to say what people shouldnt do? Nobody. </quote> It is indeed their own choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 09/15/19 11:53:13 AM #22:	likehelly posted... WastelandCowboy posted... You dont see the government stepping in to get people to stop eating junk food and drinking soda i mean have you heard of new york and yes, one of the things Michelle Obama tried to do was get kids to eat healthier and not junk food I should've clarified "people" to be "adults". Children generally follow the advice of their parents - adults. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:927467729] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>You dont see the government stepping in to get people to stop eating junk food and drinking soda</quote> i mean have you heard of new york and yes, one of the things Michelle Obama tried to do was get kids to eat healthier and not junk food</quote> I should've clarified "people" to be "adults". Children generally follow the advice of their parents - adults.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 09/15/19 11:54:45 AM #23:	I mostly don't get how they're so quick to ban vaping but cigarettes and alcohol have been legal forever. They kill more than vaping ever has or likely will but there's a fake outrage over vaping. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:927467786] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>I mostly don't get how they're so quick to ban vaping but cigarettes and alcohol have been legal forever. They kill more than vaping ever has or likely will but there's a fake outrage over vaping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 09/15/19 12:02:19 PM #24:	Jen0125 posted... I mostly don't get how they're so quick to ban vaping but cigarettes and alcohol have been legal forever. They kill more than vaping ever has or likely will but there's a fake outrage over vaping. I assume it's because there's no vaping lobbyists. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:927468080] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>I mostly don't get how they're so quick to ban vaping but cigarettes and alcohol have been legal forever. They kill more than vaping ever has or likely will but there's a fake outrage over vaping.</quote> I assume it's because there's no vaping lobbyists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightwish 09/15/19 12:07:26 PM #25:	I like how they're all about "free market" and shit until they come across something that they can't compete with, then they use fake outrage and eventual bans to keep the free market free. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if it's a D or an R, they'll all lie cheat and kill for profit --- Abba Zabba, you my only friend. <cite>Nightwish posted [p:927468260] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>I like how they're all about "free market" and shit until they come across something that they can't compete with, then they use fake outrage and eventual bans to keep the free market free. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if it's a D or an R, they'll all lie cheat and kill for profit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/15/19 3:46:32 PM #26:	Jen0125 posted... I mostly don't get how they're so quick to ban vaping but cigarettes and alcohol have been legal forever. They kill more than vaping ever has or likely will but there's a fake outrage over vaping. Alcohol and smokes make the government money on tax. Vaping doesn't. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927477087] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>I mostly don't get how they're so quick to ban vaping but cigarettes and alcohol have been legal forever. They kill more than vaping ever has or likely will but there's a fake outrage over vaping.</quote> Alcohol and smokes make the government money on tax. Vaping doesn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/15/19 5:08:32 PM #27:	wwinterj25 posted... WastelandCowboy posted... But whos to say what people shouldnt do? Nobody. It is indeed their own choice. I don't care if folk smoke/vape or not. Hell I don't even care if they take all the drugs. The problem is, what happens when you develop illnesses based on your behavior, which in turn raises your insurance premiums, IS it just "your problem"? Or worse, what if you lack insurance entirely, and wind up being supported by the state in some way, ultimately being passed on to other people, who in turn are now paying for your decisions? There's a really blurry line when we get into "What I do to myself in the privacy of my own home should be no one else's business", because it also tends to go hand-in-hand with your effect on other people. If someone else is being forced to deal with your second-hand smoke, or you injure someone else because you're drunk/stoned/etc, or you injure yourself so bad that society as a whole now has to deal with you, at that point your decisions DON'T just affect you. I'm actually pretty social liberal/libertarian in the sense that I think the government should stay the fuck out of people's lives as much as possible, but even I can't deny that there are cases where it's not that simple. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:927481085] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>But whos to say what people shouldnt do? Nobody. </quote> It is indeed their own choice. I don't care if folk smoke/vape or not. Hell I don't even care if they take all the drugs.</quote> The problem is, what happens when you develop illnesses based on your behavior, which in turn raises your insurance premiums, IS it just "your problem"? Or worse, what if you lack insurance entirely, and wind up being supported by the state in some way, ultimately being passed on to other people, who in turn are now paying for your decisions? There's a really blurry line when we get into "What I do to myself in the privacy of my own home should be no one else's business", because it also tends to go hand-in-hand with your effect on other people. If someone else is being forced to deal with your second-hand smoke, or you injure someone else because you're drunk/stoned/etc, or you injure yourself so bad that society as a whole now has to deal with you, at that point your decisions DON'T just affect you. I'm actually pretty social liberal/libertarian in the sense that I think the government should stay the fuck out of people's lives as much as possible, but even I can't deny that there are cases where it's not that simple.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/15/19 5:17:02 PM #28:	ParanoidObsessive posted... The problem is, what happens when you develop illnesses based on your behavior, which in turn raises your insurance premiums, IS it just "your problem"? Isn't it? It raises your premiums. Not everyone's, right? I understand not having insurance is being paid for others. But we'll be paying for others regardless. Whether they smoke, have problem due to weight, or eat too much junk food. I don't think my taxes have gone up from that. Though, I don't always pay attention to my taxes as long as they aren't absurd because a lot of the money goes to ridiculous things, anyway... ParanoidObsessive posted... If someone else is being forced to deal with your second-hand smoke Also, I meant to ask. Is this problem something solved by vaping? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927481456] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is, what happens when you develop illnesses based on your behavior, which in turn raises your insurance premiums, IS it just "your problem"?</quote> Isn't it? It raises your premiums. Not everyone's, right? I understand not having insurance is being paid for others. But we'll be paying for others regardless. Whether they smoke, have problem due to weight, or eat too much junk food. I don't think my taxes have gone up from that. Though, I don't always pay attention to my taxes as long as they aren't absurd because a lot of the money goes to ridiculous things, anyway... ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>If someone else is being forced to deal with your second-hand smoke</quote> Also, I meant to ask. Is this problem something solved by vaping?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 09/15/19 5:27:43 PM #29:	LinkPizza posted... Also, I meant to ask. Is this problem something solved by vaping? Depends on the flavor lol --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:927481901] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Also, I meant to ask. Is this problem something solved by vaping?</quote> Depends on the flavor lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 09/15/19 5:37:17 PM #30:	LinkPizza posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... If someone else is being forced to deal with your second-hand smoke Also, I meant to ask. Is this problem something solved by vaping? Probably depends on the person. Most vape smoke I have experienced weighs just as heavily on my lungs like cigarette smoke, same with perfume and cologne. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:927482293] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote> ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>If someone else is being forced to deal with your second-hand smoke</quote> Also, I meant to ask. Is this problem something solved by vaping?</quote></quote> Probably depends on the person. Most vape smoke I have experienced weighs just as heavily on my lungs like cigarette smoke, same with perfume and cologne.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gaawa_chan 09/15/19 6:37:25 PM #31:	Didn't you know? It's only "big government" when Democrats do it. --- Hi <cite>Gaawa_chan posted [p:927484831] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Didn't you know? It's only "big government" when Democrats do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/15/19 6:40:05 PM #32:	likehelly posted... i mean have you heard of new york and yes, one of the things Michelle Obama tried to do was get kids to eat healthier and not junk food that bitch --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:927484951] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>likehelly posted... </cite> <quote>i mean have you heard of new york and yes, one of the things Michelle Obama tried to do was get kids to eat healthier and not junk food</quote> that bitch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dudeitscool 09/15/19 6:49:38 PM #33:	SunWuKung420 posted... Hop103 posted... Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric. 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing? Or you could not be a weak pathetic addict and just stop? --- PSN: Winters_Doomsday SteamID: italianpride17 <cite>dudeitscool posted [p:927485351] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric.</quote> 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing?</quote> Or you could not be a weak pathetic addict and just stop?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/15/19 7:05:07 PM #34:	dudeitscool posted... SunWuKung420 posted... Hop103 posted... Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric. 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing? Or you could not be a weak pathetic addict and just stop? Like cold turkey. Thats not always good. They say its safer to do with cigarettes and alcohol. But it can still be very dangerous. If they are addicted, that is... Also, if youre talking directly to Sunny, I dont think he vapes... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927486027] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>dudeitscool posted...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric.</quote> 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing?</quote> Or you could not be a weak pathetic addict and just stop?</quote> Like cold turkey. Thats not always good. They say its safer to do with cigarettes and alcohol. But it can still be very dangerous. If they are addicted, that is... Also, if youre talking directly to Sunny, I dont think he vapes...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/16/19 1:00:21 AM #35:	LinkPizza posted... Like cold turkey. Thats not always good. They say its safer to do with cigarettes and alcohol. Hardcore alcoholics with a history of heavy usage can risk dramatically increased risk of seizures if they quit cold turkey. Cold turkey in general is easier to do psychologically but less healthy than a slow phasing out that gives your body time to readjust. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:927500973] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Like cold turkey. Thats not always good. They say its safer to do with cigarettes and alcohol.</quote> Hardcore alcoholics with a history of heavy usage can risk dramatically increased risk of seizures if they quit cold turkey. Cold turkey in general is easier to do psychologically but less healthy than a slow phasing out that gives your body time to readjust.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/16/19 2:32:17 AM #36:	dudeitscool posted... Or you could not be a weak pathetic addict and just stop? I mean the point in vaping is actually to get folk to stop their "addiction" of smoking. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927502999] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>dudeitscool posted...</cite> <quote>Or you could not be a weak pathetic addict and just stop?</quote> I mean the point in vaping is actually to get folk to stop their "addiction" of smoking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/16/19 3:29:22 AM #37:	LinkPizza posted... They say its safer to do with cigarettes and alcohol. Alcohol is one of the few drugs where you can die from withdrawal symptoms, most other hard drugs you can kick cold turkey with enough will. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927503991] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>They say its safer to do with cigarettes and alcohol. </quote> Alcohol is one of the few drugs where you can die from withdrawal symptoms, most other hard drugs you can kick cold turkey with enough will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 09/16/19 3:56:39 AM #38:	SunWuKung420 posted... Hop103 posted... Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric. 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing? I dont think its the breathing that kills them but the oxygen. So we should ban that. --- I'm right, as expected. <cite>zebatov posted [p:927504394] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>Vaping kills much like cigarettes I wouldn't mind Trump actually tackling the poop crisis in San Fransisco, but I doubt he will and he's just spouting rhetoric.</quote> 100% of people breathing die, should trump ban breathing?</quote> I dont think its the breathing that kills them but the oxygen. So we should ban that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
final_lap 09/16/19 4:53:34 AM #39:	Vaping was becoming way too popular with teens/children. I guess the ban is another case of "we can't have nice things because kids exist". Though in this case the "nice" thing in question is nicotine addiction with the bonus chance for lung infection. <cite>final_lap posted [p:927505225] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Vaping was becoming way too popular with teens/children. I guess the ban is another case of "we can't have nice things because kids exist". Though in this case the "nice" thing in question is nicotine addiction with the bonus chance for lung infection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/16/19 5:07:11 AM #40:	final_lap posted... Vaping was becoming way too popular with teens/children. I guess the ban is another case of "we can't have nice things because kids exist". Though in this case the "nice" thing in question is nicotine addiction with the bonus chance for lung infection. So lets ban vapes so those kids just go back to smoking cigarettes --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:927505391] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>final_lap posted... </cite> <quote>Vaping was becoming way too popular with teens/children. I guess the ban is another case of "we can't have nice things because kids exist". Though in this case the "nice" thing in question is nicotine addiction with the bonus chance for lung infection.</quote> So lets ban vapes so those kids just go back to smoking cigarettes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kind9 09/16/19 5:21:43 AM #41:	Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame. --- https://imgur.com/NkZUeFd <cite>kind9 posted [p:927505560] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/16/19 5:23:29 AM #42:	kind9 posted... Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame. President good brain is against being informed before announcing his plans --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:927505583] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>kind9 posted... </cite> <quote>Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame.</quote> President good brain is against being informed before announcing his plans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 09/16/19 5:25:14 AM #43:	It's 100% about saving the dying tobacco industry. Just like slowing the progress of electric/self-driving cars is to protect the dying oil/auto industries. It's about money, nothing else. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:927505603] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>It's 100% about saving the dying tobacco industry. Just like slowing the progress of electric/self-driving cars is to protect the dying oil/auto industries. It's about money, nothing else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/16/19 5:28:18 AM #44:	kind9 posted... Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame. It absolutely could be, inhalation of any odd substance isn't great for the lungs. Good job shilling tho --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927505639] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame.</quote> It absolutely could be, inhalation of any odd substance isn't great for the lungs. Good job shilling tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kind9 09/16/19 5:32:50 AM #45:	Kyuubi4269 posted... kind9 posted... Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame. It absolutely could be, inhalation of any odd substance isn't great for the lungs. Good job shilling tho All of the cases are linked to black market THC cartridges and oils. Look it up my bro. "Odd substance"? The ingredients in e-juice have always been listed right on the bottle. --- https://imgur.com/NkZUeFd <cite>kind9 posted [p:927505687] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame.</quote> It absolutely could be, inhalation of any odd substance isn't great for the lungs. Good job shilling tho</quote> All of the cases are linked to black market THC cartridges and oils. Look it up my bro. "Odd substance"? The ingredients in e-juice have always been listed right on the bottle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/16/19 7:45:31 AM #46:	kind9 posted... Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame. So the issue is black market items. I wonder why those exist? --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:927507820] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Trump goes after one issue by tackling another. The recent outbreak of illness was caused by black market THC cartridges, something Trump only acknowledged recently in a tweet. His initial statement when he announced the ban seemed to indicate that he thought legitimate, legal e-juice was to blame.</quote> So the issue is black market items. I wonder why those exist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/16/19 8:55:44 AM #47:	Kyuubi4269 posted... LinkPizza posted... They say its safer to do with cigarettes and alcohol. Alcohol is one of the few drugs where you can die from withdrawal symptoms, most other hard drugs you can kick cold turkey with enough will. If it's severe enough, you can die from it. But if it's not that severe, it's usually not as dangerous. Apparently, the highly addictive drugs are worse... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927509310] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>They say its safer to do with cigarettes and alcohol. </quote> Alcohol is one of the few drugs where you can die from withdrawal symptoms, most other hard drugs you can kick cold turkey with enough will.</quote> If it's severe enough, you can die from it. But if it's not that severe, it's usually not as dangerous. Apparently, the highly addictive drugs are worse...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/16/19 8:56:40 AM #48:	Mead posted... final_lap posted... Vaping was becoming way too popular with teens/children. I guess the ban is another case of "we can't have nice things because kids exist". Though in this case the "nice" thing in question is nicotine addiction with the bonus chance for lung infection. So lets ban vapes so those kids just go back to smoking cigarettes Exactly... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927509331] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>final_lap posted... </cite> <quote>Vaping was becoming way too popular with teens/children. I guess the ban is another case of "we can't have nice things because kids exist". Though in this case the "nice" thing in question is nicotine addiction with the bonus chance for lung infection.</quote> So lets ban vapes so those kids just go back to smoking cigarettes </quote> Exactly...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BUMPED2002 09/16/19 10:56:58 AM #49:	But no one bans opioids! Makes sense! --- SpankageBros <cite>BUMPED2002 posted [p:927513052] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>But no one bans opioids! Makes sense!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/16/19 10:59:11 AM #50:	LinkPizza posted... If it's severe enough, you can die from it. But if it's not that severe, it's usually not as dangerous. Apparently, the highly addictive drugs are worse... You can die is as severe as it gets. You can be attached to any drug to any level of severity so you compare maximum potential of both. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927513145] in The absolu... [t:78013614]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>If it's severe enough, you can die from it. But if it's not that severe, it's usually not as dangerous. Apparently, the highly addictive drugs are worse...</quote> You can die is as severe as it gets. You can be attached to any drug to any level of severity so you compare maximum potential of both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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