Poll of the Day > Do You Believe Michael Jackson Was A Child Abusing Monster

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NightMareBunny 09/10/19 10:40:28 PM #1:	do you? - Results (8 votes) yes 25% (2 votes) 2 no 75% (6 votes) 6 it's awkward time again --- Booping In The Scoop <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:927266288] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote> do you? - Results (8 votes) yes 25% (2 votes) 2 no 75% (6 votes) 6 it's awkward time again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 09/10/19 10:42:24 PM #2:	NightMareBunny posted... it's awkward time again Its that time every time you make a topic. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:927266355] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>it's awkward time again</quote> Its that time every time you make a topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 09/10/19 10:44:13 PM #3:	--- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:927266441] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/10/19 10:48:08 PM #4:	Sarcasthma posted... I was about to ask what happened to that other topic... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927266589] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote></quote> I was about to ask what happened to that other topic...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/10/19 10:48:16 PM #5:	I believe he had a weird relationship with kids, but I'm not sure whether there was any child abuse going on. Granted, there were a lot of new allegations after his death and I haven't kept up. Cacciato posted... NightMareBunny posted... it's awkward time again Its that time every time you make a topic. Ga-damn! --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:927266596] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>I believe he had a weird relationship with kids, but I'm not sure whether there was any child abuse going on. Granted, there were a lot of new allegations after his death and I haven't kept up. Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>it's awkward time again</quote> Its that time every time you make a topic.</quote> Ga-damn!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/10/19 10:49:24 PM #6:	I dont know --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:927266636] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>I dont know </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CTLM 09/10/19 10:58:17 PM #7:	I don't think he was. He definitely had issues, but touching little kids was not one of them <cite>CTLM posted [p:927266962] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>I don't think he was. He definitely had issues, but touching little kids was not one of them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 09/10/19 11:04:37 PM #8:	Zeus posted... I believe he had a weird relationship with kids, but I'm not sure whether there was any child abuse going on. Granted, there were a lot of new allegations after his death and I haven't kept up. Cacciato posted... NightMareBunny posted... it's awkward time again Its that time every time you make a topic. Ga-damn! zeus is defending child molesters now, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:927267214] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>I believe he had a weird relationship with kids, but I'm not sure whether there was any child abuse going on. Granted, there were a lot of new allegations after his death and I haven't kept up. Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>it's awkward time again</quote> Its that time every time you make a topic.</quote> Ga-damn!</quote> zeus is defending child molesters now, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 09/10/19 11:38:41 PM #9:	Nope. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:927268463] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cacciato 09/10/19 11:55:48 PM #11:	Sarcasthma posted... And NMB was never heard from again in this topic. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:927269070] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote></quote> And NMB was never heard from again in this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TigerTycoon 09/10/19 11:59:18 PM #12:	Last I heard many of the allegations came from already caught scam artists. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! <cite>TigerTycoon posted [p:927269160] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Last I heard many of the allegations came from already caught scam artists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 09/11/19 12:01:57 AM #13:	Zangulus posted... One of the guys that made claims on that documentary was so easily debunked (he claimed there was something at neverland that wasnt until years after he claimed it happened) and HBO tanked the show like people claimed Jackson did to them. Didn't one of them also claim MJ's dick was circumcised and it wasn't? Either way, NMB topic. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:927269224] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>One of the guys that made claims on that documentary was so easily debunked (he claimed there was something at neverland that wasnt until years after he claimed it happened) and HBO tanked the show like people claimed Jackson did to them.</quote> Didn't one of them also claim MJ's dick was circumcised and it wasn't? Either way, NMB topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 09/11/19 12:04:30 AM #14:	Molester? Not sure. Not safe with children? For sure. Dude admitted to sleeping with kids naked, and acted like there was nothing wrong with that. I want to believe there was nothing sexual at all going on, but he had mental issues if thought that was ok. If I was a parent and my young daughter or son told me they slept naked with some guy, no matter who he was, he would be very very dead. --- We are 4 oreos from Heaven!!!! <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:927269303] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Molester? Not sure. Not safe with children? For sure. Dude admitted to sleeping with kids naked, and acted like there was nothing wrong with that. I want to believe there was nothing sexual at all going on, but he had mental issues if thought that was ok. If I was a parent and my young daughter or son told me they slept naked with some guy, no matter who he was, he would be very very dead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolfy42 09/11/19 12:10:24 AM #16:	Zangulus posted... Smarkil posted... Didn't one of them also claim MJ's dick was circumcised and it wasn't? I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick. Thanks for the new sig Zang:) --- Zangulus "I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:927269480] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't one of them also claim MJ's dick was circumcised and it wasn't? </quote> I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick.</quote> Thanks for the new sig Zang:)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aHappySacka 09/11/19 12:11:38 AM #18:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnKMHBcNjOg" data-time=" --- You are now blinking and breathing manually. https://media.giphy.com/media/w9anbv8X6xovjNwIub/giphy.gif <cite>aHappySacka posted [p:927269518] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnKMHBcNjOg" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 09/11/19 12:15:06 AM #19:	I'm always slightly dubious of posthumous claims but the documentary and "evidence presented" does indicate that not all was as innocent as it may have initially seemed in my childhood recollection. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:927269624] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>I'm always slightly dubious of posthumous claims but the documentary and "evidence presented" does indicate that not all was as innocent as it may have initially seemed in my childhood recollection. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 09/11/19 12:24:08 AM #21:	I do not believe MJ was a child molester nor a paedophile no. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927269906] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>I do not believe MJ was a child molester nor a paedophile no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PKMNsony 09/11/19 12:25:25 AM #22:	I'm not sure, but I lean yes. <cite>PKMNsony posted [p:927269942] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure, but I lean yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/11/19 12:31:17 AM #23:	Nope --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:927270134] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Nope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/11/19 12:47:53 AM #24:	Im sure he wasnt a child abusing monster. I also dont think he did anything to the kids. But I dont know for sure... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927270711] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Im sure he wasnt a child abusing monster. I also dont think he did anything to the kids. But I dont know for sure...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 09/11/19 1:03:12 AM #25:	quigonzel posted... wolfy42 posted... Molester? Not sure. Not safe with children? For sure. Dude admitted to sleeping with kids naked, and acted like there was nothing wrong with that. I want to believe there was nothing sexual at all going on, but he had mental issues if thought that was ok. If I was a parent and my young daughter or son told me they slept naked with some guy, no matter who he was, he would be very very dead. Naked? I never heard anything like that. Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that? --- Zangulus "I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:927271160] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>quigonzel posted...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>Molester? Not sure. Not safe with children? For sure. Dude admitted to sleeping with kids naked, and acted like there was nothing wrong with that. I want to believe there was nothing sexual at all going on, but he had mental issues if thought that was ok. If I was a parent and my young daughter or son told me they slept naked with some guy, no matter who he was, he would be very very dead.</quote> Naked? I never heard anything like that. </quote> Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 09/11/19 1:06:36 AM #26:	Im absolutely positive he was based on nothing <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:927271246] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Im absolutely positive he was based on nothing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/11/19 1:09:37 AM #27:	LinkPizza posted... But I dont know for sure... I doubt we ever will. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927271320] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But I dont know for sure...</quote> I doubt we ever will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 09/11/19 1:25:35 AM #29:	quigonzel posted... wolfy42 posted... Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that? I've seen where he admits to sharing a bed with a child but never seen him say anything about naked. Ive seen where he thinks youre both ignorant <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:927271740] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>quigonzel posted...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that?</quote> I've seen where he admits to sharing a bed with a child but never seen him say anything about naked. </quote> Ive seen where he thinks youre both ignorant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/11/19 1:37:54 AM #30:	wwinterj25 posted... LinkPizza posted... But I dont know for sure... I doubt we ever will. Probably not... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927272065] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But I dont know for sure...</quote> I doubt we ever will.</quote> Probably not...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 09/11/19 1:44:40 AM #31:	quigonzel posted... wolfy42 posted... Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that? I've seen where he admits to sharing a bed with a child but never seen him say anything about naked. Here is a link to the timeline. It covers most of it. As far as him admitting to sleeping with them naked, it was after the first investigation against him, when he was accused of giving kids jesus juice and sleeping with them. I swear there was some point where he admitted/stated he slept with the kids naked, but that it was totally innocent. Now again, I still don't know that he was actually molesting them etc, but just the fact that he slept with many kids unsupervised after already being charged/invesstigated etc, shows a serious, serious problem. Even if they were clothed (And I could be mis-remembering and he may just not have denied that they slept naked (or it could have been one of the kids defending him who said they slept naked but nothing happened etc...again waay to long ago). Anyway, there is no denying that he had kids over, and slept with them in the same bed, after already getting in trouble for doing that before. There is no logical excuse for such behavior, and I can't imagine he would do something like that "innocently", since it has already caused him so much trouble in the past. --- Zangulus "I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:927272234] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>quigonzel posted...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that?</quote> I've seen where he admits to sharing a bed with a child but never seen him say anything about naked. </quote> Here is a link to the timeline. It covers most of it. As far as him admitting to sleeping with them naked, it was after the first investigation against him, when he was accused of giving kids jesus juice and sleeping with them. I swear there was some point where he admitted/stated he slept with the kids naked, but that it was totally innocent. Now again, I still don't know that he was actually molesting them etc, but just the fact that he slept with many kids unsupervised after already being charged/invesstigated etc, shows a serious, serious problem. Even if they were clothed (And I could be mis-remembering and he may just not have denied that they slept naked (or it could have been one of the kids defending him who said they slept naked but nothing happened etc...again waay to long ago). Anyway, there is no denying that he had kids over, and slept with them in the same bed, after already getting in trouble for doing that before. There is no logical excuse for such behavior, and I can't imagine he would do something like that "innocently", since it has already caused him so much trouble in the past.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/11/19 1:49:13 AM #32:	I'm old enough to remember the first time he was accused, and then the weight of evidence seemed to exonerate him more as someone who was at least somewhat mentally impaired and who made a lot of dubious life choices, but who wasn't actively predatory or harmful to kids in the manner he was accused of. And it wound up becoming the go-to joke for pretty much the rest of his life regardless, which would probably absolutely suck if he didn't actually do it. Granted, it's possible he really was guilty and the accusers just didn't have enough evidence, or people were paid off, but like it or not we do live in a society where people are generally supposed to be seen as being innocent until proven guilty, and I think it's incredibly shitty to persecute people for their entire lives over something they've already been acquitted for, and may not have even done. Literally none of us were there, literally none of us know the truth, so harassing someone until they die (and then afterward) on the assumption that they might have done it is kind of asshole behavior. The irony is, it wasn't really until he died that it sort of became kind of off-limits to talk about the previous issues, or blatantly joke about it, or to act like death clears all accounts, and some people started forgetting it was ever a thing in the first place... which in turn was part of what made the new accusations hit harder, especially for people who never really heard or knew much about the first round of accusations. For younger people, it's almost like "This is the first time I've heard this!" Whereas for me, it's like "Oh, we're doing this again? Hope they have better proof this time. Also, you kids just wait until you find out about R Kelly." I tend to not give a shit about the situation, and to look down on people who get too overexcited about it, because a) I've already gone through the circus before, b) he's no longer around to defend himself or answer accusations in any way, so at this point it mostly just boils down to harassing his family, and c) because it doesn't seem like the modern evidence is all that much more compelling than it was first time around. And because literally none of us really know what actually happened, and will never really know for sure. The latest wave of hate mostly stems from a single well-produced documentary, which may be entirely factual or 100% bullshit. I'd like to believe I live in a world where slightly more is required to completely destroy people's entire lives and reputations (though sadly, I'm fully aware exactly what sort of world I do live in - which is why I am almost never surprised by whichever witch hunt is looking to lynch people this given week). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:927272358] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>I'm old enough to remember the first time he was accused, and then the weight of evidence seemed to exonerate him more as someone who was at least somewhat mentally impaired and who made a lot of dubious life choices, but who wasn't actively predatory or harmful to kids in the manner he was accused of. And it wound up becoming the go-to joke for pretty much the rest of his life regardless, which would probably absolutely suck if he didn't actually do it. Granted, it's possible he really was guilty and the accusers just didn't have enough evidence, or people were paid off, but like it or not we do live in a society where people are generally supposed to be seen as being innocent until proven guilty, and I think it's incredibly shitty to persecute people for their entire lives over something they've already been acquitted for, and may not have even done. Literally none of us were there, literally none of us know the truth, so harassing someone until they die (and then afterward) on the assumption that they might have done it is kind of asshole behavior. The irony is, it wasn't really until he died that it sort of became kind of off-limits to talk about the previous issues, or blatantly joke about it, or to act like death clears all accounts, and some people started forgetting it was ever a thing in the first place... which in turn was part of what made the new accusations hit harder, especially for people who never really heard or knew much about the first round of accusations. For younger people, it's almost like "This is the first time I've heard this!" Whereas for me, it's like "Oh, we're doing this again? Hope they have better proof this time. Also, you kids just wait until you find out about R Kelly." I tend to not give a shit about the situation, and to look down on people who get too overexcited about it, because a) I've already gone through the circus before, b) he's no longer around to defend himself or answer accusations in any way, so at this point it mostly just boils down to harassing his family, and c) because it doesn't seem like the modern evidence is all that much more compelling than it was first time around. And because literally none of us really know what actually happened, and will never really know for sure. The latest wave of hate mostly stems from a single well-produced documentary, which may be entirely factual or 100% bullshit. I'd like to believe I live in a world where slightly more is required to completely destroy people's entire lives and reputations (though sadly, I'm fully aware exactly what sort of world I do live in - which is why I am almost never surprised by whichever witch hunt is looking to lynch people this given week).</quote> ... 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LinkPizza 09/11/19 2:09:29 AM #33:	wolfy42 posted... quigonzel posted... wolfy42 posted... Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that? I've seen where he admits to sharing a bed with a child but never seen him say anything about naked. Here is a link to the timeline. It covers most of it. As far as him admitting to sleeping with them naked, it was after the first investigation against him, when he was accused of giving kids jesus juice and sleeping with them. I swear there was some point where he admitted/stated he slept with the kids naked, but that it was totally innocent. Now again, I still don't know that he was actually molesting them etc, but just the fact that he slept with many kids unsupervised after already being charged/invesstigated etc, shows a serious, serious problem. Even if they were clothed (And I could be mis-remembering and he may just not have denied that they slept naked (or it could have been one of the kids defending him who said they slept naked but nothing happened etc...again waay to long ago). Anyway, there is no denying that he had kids over, and slept with them in the same bed, after already getting in trouble for doing that before. There is no logical excuse for such behavior, and I can't imagine he would do something like that "innocently", since it has already caused him so much trouble in the past. Am I missing something? Where's the link? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927272856] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted...</cite> <quote>quigonzel posted...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that?</quote> I've seen where he admits to sharing a bed with a child but never seen him say anything about naked. </quote> Here is a link to the timeline. It covers most of it. As far as him admitting to sleeping with them naked, it was after the first investigation against him, when he was accused of giving kids jesus juice and sleeping with them. I swear there was some point where he admitted/stated he slept with the kids naked, but that it was totally innocent. Now again, I still don't know that he was actually molesting them etc, but just the fact that he slept with many kids unsupervised after already being charged/invesstigated etc, shows a serious, serious problem. Even if they were clothed (And I could be mis-remembering and he may just not have denied that they slept naked (or it could have been one of the kids defending him who said they slept naked but nothing happened etc...again waay to long ago). Anyway, there is no denying that he had kids over, and slept with them in the same bed, after already getting in trouble for doing that before. There is no logical excuse for such behavior, and I can't imagine he would do something like that "innocently", since it has already caused him so much trouble in the past.</quote> Am I missing something? Where's the link?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/11/19 2:16:47 AM #34:	LinkPizza posted... Am I missing something? Where's the link? You're the link. The link of pizza! --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:927273049] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Am I missing something? Where's the link?</quote> You're the link. The link of pizza!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 09/11/19 2:19:20 AM #35:	LinkPizza posted... wolfy42 posted... quigonzel posted... wolfy42 posted... Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that? I've seen where he admits to sharing a bed with a child but never seen him say anything about naked. Here is a link to the timeline. It covers most of it. As far as him admitting to sleeping with them naked, it was after the first investigation against him, when he was accused of giving kids jesus juice and sleeping with them. I swear there was some point where he admitted/stated he slept with the kids naked, but that it was totally innocent. Now again, I still don't know that he was actually molesting them etc, but just the fact that he slept with many kids unsupervised after already being charged/invesstigated etc, shows a serious, serious problem. Even if they were clothed (And I could be mis-remembering and he may just not have denied that they slept naked (or it could have been one of the kids defending him who said they slept naked but nothing happened etc...again waay to long ago). Anyway, there is no denying that he had kids over, and slept with them in the same bed, after already getting in trouble for doing that before. There is no logical excuse for such behavior, and I can't imagine he would do something like that "innocently", since it has already caused him so much trouble in the past. Am I missing something? Where's the link? Lol I hate when I do that.....Hello Wolfy!!!! https://www.vulture.com/article/michael-jackson-abuse-allegations-timeline.html --- Zangulus "I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:927273089] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted...</cite> <quote>quigonzel posted...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, it's been forever but he admitted to sleeping with the kids naked and was offended that anyone thought it was wrong etc. It was crazy. Dude had no basis in reality. How many parents do you think would actually be ok with that?</quote> I've seen where he admits to sharing a bed with a child but never seen him say anything about naked. </quote> Here is a link to the timeline. It covers most of it. As far as him admitting to sleeping with them naked, it was after the first investigation against him, when he was accused of giving kids jesus juice and sleeping with them. I swear there was some point where he admitted/stated he slept with the kids naked, but that it was totally innocent. Now again, I still don't know that he was actually molesting them etc, but just the fact that he slept with many kids unsupervised after already being charged/invesstigated etc, shows a serious, serious problem. Even if they were clothed (And I could be mis-remembering and he may just not have denied that they slept naked (or it could have been one of the kids defending him who said they slept naked but nothing happened etc...again waay to long ago). Anyway, there is no denying that he had kids over, and slept with them in the same bed, after already getting in trouble for doing that before. There is no logical excuse for such behavior, and I can't imagine he would do something like that "innocently", since it has already caused him so much trouble in the past.</quote> Am I missing something? Where's the link?</quote> Lol I hate when I do that.....Hello Wolfy!!!! https://www.vulture.com/article/michael-jackson-abuse-allegations-timeline.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/11/19 2:19:24 AM #36:	AllstarSniper32 posted... LinkPizza posted... Am I missing something? Where's the link? You're the link. The link of pizza! What's funny is I saw this coming as soon as I posted it. But there was nothing I could do about it... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927273092] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Am I missing something? Where's the link?</quote> You're the link. The link of pizza!</quote> What's funny is I saw this coming as soon as I posted it. But there was nothing I could do about it...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/11/19 2:21:19 AM #37:	Honestly, havent done enough research to believe one way or the other but I'll say that I think he gets a pass on being a weirdo with children that your average joe wouldnt get just because he was a wealthy, talented singer. For those who aggressively defend him sharing beds with random children and whatever other weird shit... would you be as defensive of your regular working class joe having a beer at the local pub after work or would you assume he's doing something he shouldnt be? I'm sick of seeing rich/famous people getting a pass for shit simply because people like their music or movies or whatever <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:927273128] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, havent done enough research to believe one way or the other but I'll say that I think he gets a pass on being a weirdo with children that your average joe wouldnt get just because he was a wealthy, talented singer. For those who aggressively defend him sharing beds with random children and whatever other weird shit... would you be as defensive of your regular working class joe having a beer at the local pub after work or would you assume he's doing something he shouldnt be? I'm sick of seeing rich/famous people getting a pass for shit simply because people like their music or movies or whatever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 09/11/19 2:31:36 AM #38:	OhhhJa posted... For those who aggressively defend him sharing beds with random children and whatever other weird s*... would you be as defensive of your regular working class joe having a beer at the local pub after work or would you assume he's doing something he shouldnt be? I'm sick of seeing rich/famous people getting a pass for s* simply because people like their music or movies or whatever Part of the problem I have always had was his total lack of responsibility even if he actually didn't do anything. There are guys out there who DO, and you need to set boundaries for the kids and prevent parents/law enforcement etc wasting resources on you, even if you are not one of them. He came off in his interviews like there was nothing wrong at with him sleeping with kids in the same bed etc, and that the police were abusing him etc. Dude was responsible for creating the situation, and I'm 100% sure it wasn't just him being scrutinized etc, his actions directly made those kids get interviewed and deal with the publicity etc. But ok, give him a pass the first time, dude might have just been in la la land (heh), and not had a clue, it's possible. After the original allegations etc he KNEW it was not ok to be sleeping with kids (clothed or unclothed), and yet he still did it. Sorry, if I was on that jury, he would have been found guilty, even if he didn't actually molest them, he was warned, ignored the warning and acted like he could do whatever he wanted.He put the kids through a ton of crap they shouldn't have had to deal with. If he was that...mentally ill, then he needed to be surpervised and certainly not left alone with children. --- Zangulus "I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:927273371] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>For those who aggressively defend him sharing beds with random children and whatever other weird s*... would you be as defensive of your regular working class joe having a beer at the local pub after work or would you assume he's doing something he shouldnt be? I'm sick of seeing rich/famous people getting a pass for s* simply because people like their music or movies or whatever</quote> Part of the problem I have always had was his total lack of responsibility even if he actually didn't do anything. There are guys out there who DO, and you need to set boundaries for the kids and prevent parents/law enforcement etc wasting resources on you, even if you are not one of them. He came off in his interviews like there was nothing wrong at with him sleeping with kids in the same bed etc, and that the police were abusing him etc. Dude was responsible for creating the situation, and I'm 100% sure it wasn't just him being scrutinized etc, his actions directly made those kids get interviewed and deal with the publicity etc. But ok, give him a pass the first time, dude might have just been in la la land (heh), and not had a clue, it's possible. After the original allegations etc he KNEW it was not ok to be sleeping with kids (clothed or unclothed), and yet he still did it. Sorry, if I was on that jury, he would have been found guilty, even if he didn't actually molest them, he was warned, ignored the warning and acted like he could do whatever he wanted.He put the kids through a ton of crap they shouldn't have had to deal with. If he was that...mentally ill, then he needed to be surpervised and certainly not left alone with children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/11/19 2:35:46 AM #39:	Probably not, but there was definitely some questionable stuff going on. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927273472] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Probably not, but there was definitely some questionable stuff going on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GastroFan 09/11/19 8:45:36 AM #40:	All I know is that Michael was a child star; so becoming famous at such an early age (I think like 4 or 5) probably messed him up psychologically as well as having all the pull in the music industry to where people lived in fear of saying the wrong thing and getting hurt (remember Bill Cosby). That being said a lot of people were more interested in suing Michael for crimes either real or imagined than in helping him get psychological help once they realized that he had problems. The problem is that those who are the most mentally messed up are usually the people that create the greatest art, music, etc. (Van Gogh, etc.) <cite>GastroFan posted [p:927279740] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>All I know is that Michael was a child star; so becoming famous at such an early age (I think like 4 or 5) probably messed him up psychologically as well as having all the pull in the music industry to where people lived in fear of saying the wrong thing and getting hurt (remember Bill Cosby). That being said a lot of people were more interested in suing Michael for crimes either real or imagined than in helping him get psychological help once they realized that he had problems. The problem is that those who are the most mentally messed up are usually the people that create the greatest art, music, etc. (Van Gogh, etc.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 09/11/19 9:02:44 AM #41:	The man has been dead for a decade. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:927280200] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>The man has been dead for a decade.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/11/19 9:05:30 AM #42:	Macauley Culkin looks like he was abused as a child, ok? --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927280274] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Macauley Culkin looks like he was abused as a child, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/11/19 9:24:15 PM #43:	EvilMegas posted... The man has been dead for a decade. and yet this is still a problem due to that documentary --- Booping In The Scoop <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:927311657] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>The man has been dead for a decade.</quote> and yet this is still a problem due to that documentary</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 09/11/19 9:30:38 PM #44:	yes and youre naive if you say no --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:927311920] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>yes and youre naive if you say no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 09/11/19 9:40:09 PM #45:	NightMareBunny posted... EvilMegas posted... The man has been dead for a decade. and yet this is still a problem due to that documentary It's not a problem. People like you are trying to make its problem. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:927312332] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>The man has been dead for a decade.</quote> and yet this is still a problem due to that documentary</quote> It's not a problem. People like you are trying to make its problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/11/19 9:56:00 PM #46:	EvilMegas posted... NightMareBunny posted... EvilMegas posted... The man has been dead for a decade. and yet this is still a problem due to that documentary It's not a problem. People like you are trying to make its problem. i don't think it will ever not be a problem....it's not like people magically forgot about that documentary i mean the simpsons stand by their decision to pretend they never made that episode that was one big Michael Jackson shout out and burying it under rubble --- Booping In The Scoop <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:927312964] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>The man has been dead for a decade.</quote> and yet this is still a problem due to that documentary</quote> It's not a problem. People like you are trying to make its problem.</quote> i don't think it will ever not be a problem....it's not like people magically forgot about that documentary i mean the simpsons stand by their decision to pretend they never made that episode that was one big Michael Jackson shout out and burying it under rubble</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/11/19 10:23:14 PM #47:	Asking this is like Asking if R Kelly ever peed on someone. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:927314027] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>Asking this is like Asking if R Kelly ever peed on someone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 09/11/19 11:31:54 PM #48:	AllstarSniper32 posted... Asking this is like Asking if R Kelly ever peed on someone. Oh shit there is a video of Michael molesting a little kid? <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:927316737] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>Asking this is like Asking if R Kelly ever peed on someone.</quote> Oh shit there is a video of Michael molesting a little kid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
afrodude77 09/12/19 12:51:25 AM #49:	No Joe denied him his childhood and he was desperate to reclaim it the parents were just opportunists --- WAR EAGLE --- <cite>afrodude77 posted [p:927319396] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>No Joe denied him his childhood and he was desperate to reclaim it the parents were just opportunists </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/12/19 2:23:59 AM #50:	MICHALECOLE posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... Asking this is like Asking if R Kelly ever peed on someone. Oh shit there is a video of Michael molesting a little kid? Probably. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:927321871] in Do You Bel... [t:78004170]...</cite> <quote>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>Asking this is like Asking if R Kelly ever peed on someone.</quote> Oh shit there is a video of Michael molesting a little kid?</quote> Probably.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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