Board 8 > Ace Attorney Topic Part 3: The Maddening (Spoilers for AA1-6, AAI1-2)

(+) Yeah! (+)

he's not bad! his breakdown animation was fantastic.
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also what's the general opinion on Datz? I think that dude's hilarious, one of the better side characters.
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Datz is basically just Khura'inese Larry.

I thought he was fine in 6-3, but he's kind of annoying elsewhere.
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Datz is great
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So is it Thats horrible or Thats a rebel
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it could be both but probably the latter

I'm just not a fan of troll characters whose defining trait is just pointing and laughing at people so Datz gets on my nerves more often than not in addition to him being kind of a hypocrite
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I don't think that's Datz's defining trait at all. it's just one animation.
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but let's hold off on this - two guys playing 6-5 right now.
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I think Datz is really awesome during the second day of 6-3, but then they make him too much of a joke in 6-5, it doesn't even take him the whole game to get flanderized, it's weird

I guess I will spoiler this for now just in case

it's just one animation that he uses all the time
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his apple animation is what I think of! second would be that thumbs up one, the laugh third. anyway I'm done now
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his double-thumbs-up and COR BLIMEY animations are much more defining of what makes him a likable guy to me
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Datz's best appearance was as Anohn Ihmus TBD imhotbqh

also the thumbs up animation just emphasizes the fact that he has an eminently punchable face
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anyway one thing I've noticed playing through 2-3 is that there is an awful lot of ALL CAPS YELLING in this case
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your face has an eminently punchable face

wait no
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I mean it might although no one has tested that theory yet
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I like how they took Edgeworth telling Will Powers in 1-3 that he's a big Steel Samurai fan to be a fact going forward even though Phoenix thinks he's lying.

Franziska does the same thing when she says she knew about Acro and Bat's acrobatic duo even in Germany (which Phoenix also believes to be a total lie), so I kinda wish they had run with that one, too, and made her some kind of closet circus fangirl.
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thanks for the spoiler tagging, guys! I'll stay careful around this topic while I play through 6-5, but I appreciate the thought.

glad to see some 6-4 appreciation as well, and add me to the Datz fanclub too. dude is excellent.
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I forgot about Maya pulling a 1-4 and coming to Phoenix's rescue at the end of 2-3 in place of Mia. Phoenix's "The defense needs time to do WHAT?!" line right afterward is great, too.

honestly for as much of a mess as 2-3's second trial day can be when it comes to the murder itself I still love it and it's why I can't think of this as a bad case

also it's kind of weirdly structured because there's only one testimony after the recess and you don't even have to cross-examine if you don't want to

but yeah Acro is great
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it's a shame we never get to see Edgeworth wear that swanky blue suit again

also I like the fact that the newspaper he's reading has a picture of Franziska on one of the articles so I guess she was right about her case making the national/international news (depending on wherever Edgeworth is at the time)

anyway final numbers soonish
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Total lines by segment:

1-5 Trial Day 3 - 1338
2-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1331
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
E1-4 Middle - 1030
1-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1004
E1-4 End - 979
1-5 Trial Day 1 - 938
1-5 Investigation Day 3 - 932
E1-4 Beginning - 926
2-2 Investigation Day 1 - 924
2-3 Investigation Day 2 - 900
2-1 - 899
1-5 Investigation Day 1 - 874
2-3 Trial Day 1 - 851
1-5 Trial Day 2 - 827
2-2 Investigation Day 2 - 808
2-3 Trial Day 2 - 802
2-2 Trial Day 2 - 764
1-4 Investigation Day 2 - 729
1-4 Investigation Day 1 - 700
1-3 Investigation Day 2 - 661
1-4 Trial Day 3 - 626
2-2 Trial Day 1 - 623
1-2 Trial Day 1 - 524
1-4 Trial Day 1 - 519
1-3 Trial Day 2 - 517
1-4 Investigation Day 3 - 478
1-3 Investigation Day 1 - 455
1-2 Trial Day 2 - 447
1-4 Trial Day 2 - 414
1-3 Trial Day 3 - 403
1-2 Investigation Day 1 - 402
1-2 Investigation Day 2 - 400
1-1 - 389
1-3 Trial Day 1 - 380
1-3 Investigation Day 3 - 325

Total lines by case:

1-5 - 5913
2-3 - 3884
1-4 - 3466
2-2 - 3119
E1-4 - 2935
1-3 - 2741
1-2 - 1773
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
2-2 - 899
1-1 - 389

Totals lines by game:

PW1 - 14282
JFA - 7902
AAI1 - 2935
T&T - 2393

Total lines by character per case:

Turnabout Big Top (2-3)

1. Phoenix Wright - 1236 (31.82%)
2. Maya Fey - 869 (22.37%)
3. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 318 (8.19%)
4. The Judge - 302 (7.78%)
5. Franziska von Karma - 271 (6.98%)
6. Max Galactica - 201 (5.18%)
7. Ben & Trilo Quist - 199 (5.12%)
8. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182 (4.69%)
9. Regina Berry - 150 (3.86%)
10. Trilo Quist - 139 (3.58%)
12. Dick Gumshoe - 119 (3.96%)
13. Benjamin Woodman - 60 (1.54%)
14. Other - 20
15. Pearl Fey - 12
16. Miles Edgeworth - 3
17. Russell Berry - 2

Total lines by character per game:

Justice for All

1. Phoenix Wright - 2935
2. Maya Fey - 1093
3. The Judge - 690
4. Franziska von Karma - 493
5. Dick Gumshoe - 321
6. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 318
7. Ini Miney - 275
8. Maximillion Galactica - 201
9. Ben & Trilo Quist - 199
10. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
11. Pearl Fey - 165
12. Morgan Fey - 163
13. Mia Fey - 155
14. Lotta Hart - 153
15. Regina Berry - 150
16. Trilo Quist - 139
17. Richard Wellington - 107
18. Maggey Byrde - 88
19. Winston Payne - 85
20. Benjamin Woodman - 60
21. Director Hotti - 59
22. Turner Grey - 39
23. Other - 26
24. Miles Edgeworth - 3
25. Russell Berry - 2

Most lines per case:

Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 2032
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 1370
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 1328
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 1236
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 1211
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 1117
Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 812
Mia Fey (3-4) - 436
Mia Fey (3-1) - 396
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 329
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 135

Highest percentage of lines per case:

Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 45.80%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 45.25%
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 43.92%
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 40.75%
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 36.60%
Mia Fey (3-4) - 35.59%
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 34.94%
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 34.70%
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 34.36%
Mia Fey (3-1) - 33.93%
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 31.82%
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Testimonies by character:

1. Dick Gumshoe - 72 lines/13 testimonies
2. Dahlia Hawthorne - 48 lines/8 testimonies
3. Lotta Hart - 31 lines/6 testimonies
4. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 34 lines/5 testimonies
5. Wendy Oldbag - 29 lines/5 testimonies
6. Calisto Yew - 21 lines/5 testimonies
7. Redd White - 29 lines/4 testimonies
8. Angel Starr - 24 lines/4 testimonies
9. Ini Miney - 24 lines/4 testimonies
10. Cody Hackins - 21 lines/3 testimonies
11. Damon Gant - 20 lines/3 testimonies
12. Frank Sahwit - 20 lines/3 testimonies
13. Lana Skye - 19 lines/3 testimonies
14. Jake Marshall - 18 lines/3 testimonies
15. Phoenix Wright - 17 lines/3 testimonies
16. Trilo Quist - 17 lines/3 testimonies
17. Ema Skye - 15 lines/3 testimonies
18. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 15 lines/3 testimonies
19. Mike Meekins - 15 lines/3 testimonies
20. Dee Vasquez - 16 lines/2 testimonies
21. April May - 14 lines/2 testimonies
22. Yanni Yogi - 13 lines/2 testimonies
23. Larry Butz - 12 lines/2 testimonies
24. Sal Manella - 12 lines/2 testimonies
25. Franziska von Karma - 10 lines/2 testimonies
26. Richard Wellington - 10 lines/2 testimonies
27. The Judge - 10 lines/2 testimonies
28. Miles Edgeworth - 8 lines/1 testimony
29. Morgan Fey - 6 lines/1 testimony
30. Tyrell Badd - 6 lines/1 testimony
31. Terry Fawles - 6 lines/1 testimony
32. The Bellboy - 5 lines/1 testimony
33. Polly - 3 lines/1 testimony

Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 8401
2. Miles Edgeworth - 2555
3. The Judge - 2366
4. Maya Fey - 2365
5. Dick Gumshoe - 1270
6. Mia Fey - 1174
7. Ema Skye - 1150
8. Franziska von Karma - 1012
9. Lotta Hart - 345
10. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 318
11. Manfred von Karma - 316
12. Winston Payne - 295
13. Damon Gant - 285
14. Dahlia Hawthorne - 284
15. Ini Miney - 275
16. Angel Starr - 272
17. Jake Marshall - 257
18. Calisto Yew - 256
19. Lana Skye - 249
20. Tyrell Badd - 242
21. Marvin Grossberg - 234
22. The Judge's Brother - 221
23. Wendy Oldbag - 210
24. Maximillion Galactica - 201
25. Ben & Trilo Quist - 199
26. Larry Butz - 182
27. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
28. Pearl Fey - 166
29. Morgan Fey - 163
30. Redd White - 162
31. Regina Berry - 150
32. Dee Vasquez - 148
33. Other - 141
34. Trilo Quist - 139
35. Cody Hackins - 135
36. Mike Meekins - 128
37. Godot - 112
38. Richard Wellington - 107
39. April May - 104
40. Kay Faraday - 99
41. Yanni Yogi - 98
42. Maggey Byrde - 88
43. Penny Nichols - 86
44. Will Powers - 83
45. Terry Fawles - 74
46. Benjamin Woodman - 60
47. Director Hotti - 59
48. Frank Sahwit - 58
49. Sal Manella - 57
50. The Bellboy - 57
51. Turner Grey - 39
52. Chief of Detectives - 24
53. Polly - 20
54. Gregory Edgeworth - 5
55. Shi-Long Lang - 3

Overall total lines - 27512
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where's edgeworth at without e1 and aa3?
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transience posted...

where's edgeworth at without e1 and aa3?

1063, not much above Franziska and still below Ema Skye's single appearance.
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also it's kind of fitting that I'll be playing 2-4 during the timeframe when it's actually supposed to occur
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Oh man I wanted to see Franziskas explanation of how Max flew so bad
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Natwaf_akidna posted...

Oh man I wanted to see Franziskas explanation of how Max flew so bad

one of the best additions the anime made
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also one of the kind of neat things in JFA is that it makes either the culprit or the victim really sympathetic (or both of them in 2-3's case) in the first three cases and then 2-4 gives you two of the biggest scumbags in the series
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I'm quite surprised Acro has so few lines; he's such a dominant personality on that last trial day that he really sticks with you. But I guess it makes sense, since he doesn't appear that much before that. Moe having plenty of lines was expected, though.

JFA looks like it'll end up close to PW1 in total lines... for the version we got anyway. It would have been way longer than PW1 in the original GBA game without 1-5.
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Well, Acro not being there at all on the first day hurts him a lot.

But yeah, JFA would already be close to PW1 without 1-5. 2-4 needs to be something like 6400 lines to for JFA to surpass all of PW1.
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I would NEVER have guessed that Max has more lines than Acro

Max talks a lot on the first day. Heck, nearly all of his lines are during investigation segments. He's pretty heavily involved on both days.
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I'm happy that we have an active Ace Attorney thread.
Makes me want to see if an Attorney Online thread would be worth posting.
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Max over Acro makes sense to me. Acro barely speaks outside of court and is not especially wordy in court. Max blabs on that first day.
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ZXAdvent_Lucian posted...

I'm happy that we have an active Ace Attorney thread.
Makes me want to see if an Attorney Online thread would be worth posting.

considering I've never seen anyone here ever even mention it I kinda doubt you'd get much response
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whenever I play Ace Attorney, I think to myself, "this is good and all, but you know what would make it really awesome? if it was written and roleplayed by internet randos"
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occasionally there's some really good fanmade stuff but that's the exception

besides if you want extra Ace Attorney stuff there are Phoenix and Edgeworth mangas out there
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Pearl: "I'm sorry, but I'm an only child."

oh Pearl you have no idea

also 2-4 HYPE

we'll be overlapping with the "real" date of the case here soon too
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man we haven't even started the "real" investigation yet and we're almost up to 500 lines

I'm really curious to see how high the line counts go here
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Fey women got busy
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oh hey it's Matt Engarde's theme
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Speaking of Matt Engarde, I do like how the game drops lots of hints at you very early on that he might actually be guilty, including Pearl asking Phoenix point blank what he'd do if his client were the killer. Then they give you that false reassurance with Phoenix asking Engarde if he killed Juan and no Psyche-Locks appeared. Even as the evidence mounted against him as the case went along, I was like Phoenix and just wanted to keep believing that he was innocent. That's what makes the hair flip such an effective gut punch, at least in my book.
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That happened to me too

I so believed Matt was innocent that I wrote off DeKiller as the name of a deranged Engarde fan (who Matt knew about, which is why he reacted to the name) who was insane and wanted to kill off Corrida to help his idol, and then the evidence kept piling up

And that ****ing Hair Flip

Glorious
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heck yeah Great Revival

it's weird that they've never really been able to do a good remix of this song though
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whew 2-4 investigation day 1 complete

what a marathon

still the best
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LeonhartFour posted...

heck yeah Great Revival

it's weird that they've never really been able to do a good remix of this song though

They never should have brought it back either
Some things need to remain exclusive
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LeonhartFour posted...

heck yeah Great Revival

it's weird that they've never really been able to do a good remix of this song though

i like the aai1 confrontation themes ehoch are derived from this. agreed otherwise.

LeonhartFour posted...

whew 2-4 investigation day 1 complete

what a marathon

still the best

i'd say day 2 is the best!
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I dunno. None of the Great Revivals are really amazing, but it's a solid, consistently good song.
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that's not inaccurate. a lot of the coolness of great revival is tied to the simple fact that it's edgeworth's 2-4 theme, and he is back. and better than ever.
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