Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 133: Easy D's Democratic Dalliance

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Jakyl25 posted...

Let the record show that any agreement with Ulti is purely accidental

Hey man, the truth is the truth. I told you guys ages ago the leftist media acting like morons was only helping Trump.
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HaRRicH posted...

https://twitter.com/_chloi/status/909643713298567168

rich liberals aren't your friends, mainstream media celebrities aren't your friends, these people believe in nothing and stand for nothing. https://t.co/eL40gZUTtw

Yeah this is great! We can run them out, and then moderate democrats, and then democrats that are too far to the left, and then any one of them that ever talked to a conservative!

Then she and the other six ideologically pure perfect liberals can begin our plan to win the next election cycle!
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(I realize that I am stretching a bit there, but nothing annoys me more than the tendency of the left to self cannibalize to feed some odd sense of self righteousness)
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Suprak the Stud posted...

(I realize that I am stretching a bit there, but nothing annoys me more than the tendency of the left to self cannibalize to feed some odd sense of self righteousness)

Always strive to feel as morally superior to others as you can. Isn't that like a liberal mantra or something?
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I don't even get the point of the images she posted.

Oh no, Donald Trump was treated like a celebrity when he was a celebrity!

Oh no, Trevor Noah sent Tomi Lahren a cupcake! He's a fraud! How dare media people of opposite sides get along!
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UltiXX posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Trump's tweet is wrong regardless.

Obama had nothing to do with the Manafort wiretap. He did not direct it, and it had nothing to do with Manafort being Trump's campaign manager.

"Trump was right about being wiretapped but I have to play liberal mental gymnastics instead of ever admitting I'm wrong."

All the clowns who spent months trashing the president over the wire tapping claim got absolutely punked. It's not like the president could EVER have inside knowledge of spying or anything.

The New York Times reported around the inauguration that a lot of their information came from wire tapping, and they scrubbed the story. Which I mentioned when this all came up originally, and was treated with the usual BS.

Turns out I was right. Again. And no, it never gets old.

trump made a specific claim about obama wiretapping trump tower. If the truth is not-Obama wire tapped Paul manafort, then Trump's claim is totally wrong except for the word "witetap".

unless "trump tower" was manafort's cool nickname for some reason
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There's still a way for Trump to be right! We just need to define "tapp" as A tapps B <--> the FBI taps B's campaign manager with no input from A
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Maybe it's the nickname for his penis.
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BTW Ulti coming in with his "catchphrase" just proves I was completely justified in blocking the goof.
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TheRock1525 posted...

SephG: "I hate Trump so much!"

Also SephG: "I will defend 90% of what he does."

for real. at least muffin's "i support trump because it rustles the liberals' jimmies!" approach is honest, as stupid as it is. the fact that sephy always accomanies his passionate trump defenses with an extremely insincere "but guys, i hate trump more than anyone in this topic!" disclaimer is laughable.
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I think it's funny that "all these w's" is "a complete misunderstanding of the events, the parties involved, and the timelines." But hey, i guess some people are desperate enough for anything.
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I got What Happened today and I'm about 50 pages in. It's definitely not boring!
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I think it would be pretty easy for Ulti to fly all his wins since he gets so few of them, and even those he does get are more like semantic half-wins (Trump was clearly implying that he was personally wiretapped to rile up his base against Obama, even though that's also clearly not what happened.) Then again, I have to imagine Ulti has scrawny muscles given how much of a crybaby he is in these topics (like most internet conservative wannabes), so maybe it WOULD be difficult for him to fly even the smallest of Ws.
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even if ulti would be 100% right, the scenario of the president of the US personally wiretapping a presidential candidate for no good reason would be pretty sucky and not something we should celebrate. the fact that ulti's primary reaction is "YAAAY I WAS RIGHT HOW DOES ONE MAN FLY ALL THESE WS" instead of "wow, this kinda sucks" shows how self-obsessed he is.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

I got What Happened today and I'm about 50 pages in. It's definitely not boring!

I'll be excited for any details you wanna share as you progress through the book.
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Nyt reporting that don jr wants to give up his 24/7 secret service detail, citing privacy.


It must be difficult to engage in shady business deals with the US government right next to you at all times.
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That and the Secret Service spent their annual budget already.
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It's more than just Ulti. All of Trump's cult don't care that a literal foreign agent was running his campaign. Just that something Trump once said is kind of sort of true if you gouge out an eye and then look at it.

It's terrifying.
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Who posted in the past couple weeks about this?

http://m.startribune.com/trump-administration-rejects-study-showing-positive-impact-of-refugees/445578003/?section=%2F

The internal study, which was completed in late July but never publicly released, found that refugees “contributed an estimated $269.1 billion in revenues to all levels of government” between 2005 and 2014 through the payment of federal, state and local taxes. “Overall, this report estimated that the net fiscal impact of refugees was positive over the 10-year period, at $63 billion.”
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Friendly reminder that 55% of Trump-voters didn't believe Donald Jr. even met with the Russian lawyer after he released his emails explicitly saying he would meet them for dirt on Hillary.
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My Immortal posted...

Who posted in the past couple weeks about this?

http://m.startribune.com/trump-administration-rejects-study-showing-positive-impact-of-refugees/445578003/?section=%2F

The internal study, which was completed in late July but never publicly released, found that refugees “contributed an estimated $269.1 billion in revenues to all levels of government” between 2005 and 2014 through the payment of federal, state and local taxes. “Overall, this report estimated that the net fiscal impact of refugees was positive over the 10-year period, at $63 billion.”

That would be @WhoopsyDaisy
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StealThisSheen posted...

I don't even get the point of the images she posted.

Oh no, Donald Trump was treated like a celebrity when he was a celebrity!

Oh no, Trevor Noah sent Tomi Lahren a cupcake! He's a fraud! How dare media people of opposite sides get along!

You don't think it's a LITTLE hypocritical that SNL hates Trump so much yet they had him on to host the show during the campaign?
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There is a timeless rule in Hollywood: money trumps convictions.

That's why Sean Penn is one of the few leftist celebrities I respect. He at least sticks to his (idiotic) principles.
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It's hypocritical, but I understand it's legally required in a way too. What's that rule about fair and equal coverage? It's not like the government's mandating one SNL performance per candidate per say, but I think NBC had to work something out regarding that situation to keep their campaigns' presences at an even level.
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It's the opposite. Because of Trump on SNL, the OTHER GOP candidates wanted equal time
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And the blowback against Fallon was there right when it happened.

You can't treat this dude like some harmless muppet
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Ah, been a minute. So is that issue always a primary-based issue of equal coverage? I thought that extended out to the general election too.
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Ted Cruz would actually be great on SNL

Remember that deadpan line he had at the end of the last debate... "Look at the greatness of America. On this stage we have the son of a dishwasher, the son of a bartender, the son of a postman, and the son of a millionaire real estate tycoon all vying for the presidency of the United States."
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It extends to the general, but it has nothing to do with content. Only actual coverage of the candidate.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Ted Cruz would actually be great on SNL

Remember that deadpan line he had at the end of the last debate... "Look at the greatness of America. On this stage we have the son of a dishwasher, the son of a bartender, the son of a postman, and the son of a millionaire real estate tycoon all vying for the presidency of the United States."

Trump should have added "and the son of the man who assassinated JFK"
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maybe huckabee can bring some of his twitter jokes to SNL
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Oh hey, Trump just literally said the US will "totally destroy" North Korea if it has to.

Maybe I should up my anxiety meds
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The Mana Sword posted...

maybe huckabee can bring some of his twitter jokes to SNL

oh my god a huckabee weekend update segment would be so cringe-inducing and incredible
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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh hey, Trump just literally said the US will "totally destroy" North Korea if it has to.

Maybe I should up my anxiety meds

And he's using his nick name for kim at the fucking UN. He's so out matched here. What a joke.
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Jakyl25 posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

I don't even get the point of the images she posted.

Oh no, Donald Trump was treated like a celebrity when he was a celebrity!

Oh no, Trevor Noah sent Tomi Lahren a cupcake! He's a fraud! How dare media people of opposite sides get along!

You don't think it's a LITTLE hypocritical that SNL hates Trump so much yet they had him on to host the show during the campaign?

To be fair, if he was on before he became president and gave them further reason to hate him, I don't think it's all that hypocritical.

It'd be like if I REALLY hate the Dolphins, but I liked Jay Cutler. But then he goes to the Dolphins, so I stop watching Jay Cutler. Or if I liked Adrian Peterson before I found out he beat his son. I don't really see that as being hypocritical.

EDIT: That said, I atleast kinda understand that one. I don't understand the Trevor Noah one at all. Dude sent a cupcake to a Trump supporter. Come on, now.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh hey, Trump just literally said the US will "totally destroy" North Korea if it has to.

Maybe I should up my anxiety meds

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/c/c9/GD1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090226045939
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HashtagSEP posted...

To be fair, if he was on before he became president and gave them further reason to hate him, I don't think it's all that hypocritical.

Reminder that he literally launched his campaign with "Mexicans are rapists"
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Nah, I can't get behind this at all.

The left cannibalizing the left is just making the right look... Well, right.
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I agree with you that The Daily Show sending Tomi a cupcake is a weird example.
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Like, I think my issue with this is that this topic sees Trump supporters go rabid after Ann Coulter says something bad about him and laughs about it, mocks them for it, etc.

But then something like this happens and it gets met with "Hold on, now, she's right..."

That's a bad look.
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Coulter literally wrote a book called "In Trump We Trust." That's why she gets mocked for getting duped
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Jakyl25 posted...

I agree with you that The Daily Show sending Tomi a cupcake is a weird example.

Well, and that, too.

I should clarify. I don't think the sentiment itself is a bad look. But this chick went a liiiiittle bit bonkers with it, and nobody really seems to want to say that.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Coulter literally wrote a book called "In Trump We Trust." That's why she gets mocked for getting duped

I'm talking about people mocking Trump supporters turning on Trump supporters in general. Not Coulter getting mocked. She deserves to be mocked.
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I'm not sure I follow. Maybe I'm blinded by my bias so I'll ask you to please spell it out more. Why in your opinion do we laugh at those Trump supporters?
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The left laughs at the right for cannibalizing itself

The left then cannibalizes itself and defends it

That's what I don't like.
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I think the reasons why are important

We laugh at people burning MAGA hats because they're upset Trump isn't being evil enough

Meanwhile we point out how troubling it is that some of the celebrity leftists least affected by Trump's awfulness say they stand against him, while at the same time having played a part in enabling his rise.
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Like when Fallon comes on and says he's disgusted by the President's response to Charlottesville, it comes across as too little too late when you KNEW who he was and what he stood for a year ago when you had him on and promoted him. Why does it bother you now but didn't bother you then?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Like when Fallon comes on and says he's disgusted by the President's response to Charlottesville, it comes across as too little too late when you KNEW who he was and what he stood for a year ago when you had him on and promoted him. Why does it bother you now but didn't bother you then?

A couple reasons.

1. You'd expect somebody who becomes president to put aside personal feelings at times and... Actually be presidential. Being disgusted that Trump can't even do THAT much is perfectly valid.

2. Thinking you know how somebody is and what they stand for isn't the same as actually seeing their actions firsthand. I might think Joe Schmoe at the office is a sack of shit, but I'll still greet him in the morning. If I later find out that he beats his wife, then... Yes, that would bother me and I'd stop exchanging pleasantries.

3. I think some of the things we "knew" about Trump are being over-exaggerated in hindsight. Like, did Trump actually do much during the campaign that made everybody go "Yeah, he really is a white supremacist?" This is an actual question, since I honestly can't remember. The Mexican thing painted him as a clear nationalist, yeah, but...
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HashtagSEP posted...

3. I think some of the things we "knew" about Trump are being over-exaggerated in hindsight. Like, did Trump actually do much during the campaign that made everybody go "Yeah, he really is a white supremacist?" This is an actual question, since I honestly can't remember. The Mexican thing painted him as a clear nationalist, yeah, but...

We knew he got annoyed about being asked to denounce David Duke. We knew that his father was literally a KKK member. We knew that he had in the past gotten called out on housing discrimination against "coloreds."
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Jakyl25 posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

3. I think some of the things we "knew" about Trump are being over-exaggerated in hindsight. Like, did Trump actually do much during the campaign that made everybody go "Yeah, he really is a white supremacist?" This is an actual question, since I honestly can't remember. The Mexican thing painted him as a clear nationalist, yeah, but...

We knew he got annoyed about being asked to denounce David Duke. We knew that his father was literally a KKK member. We knew that he had in the past gotten called out on housing discrimination against "coloreds."

Only the first one here is particularly relevant, given that the second one is dumb logic and the third was over 40 years ago.
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