Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 118: China Don't Care

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Wanglicious posted...

you have any questions on this.

What do you think these people look like
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Wanglicious posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

I just discovered #altfurry, the hashtag for alt-right furries and now I am upset.

you have any questions on this.
because i was around when that started.

it gets worse and more cancerous the further you dig into it.

where did it first start and why were you there
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How does it get worse and more cancerous
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Not_an_Owl posted...

CaptainOfCrush posted...

If the economy remains strong and the Dems roll out another weak candidate, he can easily win again. He's a bigger threat to his own stupid self than the Dems are in a general election.

I thought the last election proved that no matter how hard he tries, Trump cannot actually shoot his own dick off.

I think part of this is the 2012 Republican primaries which was basically Mitt Romney vs a series of front runners who shot themselves in the dick and then Romney got trounced. I think that really helped condition Republicans to want to ignore this stuff in favor of getting a candidate that can win (Trump)
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Wanglicious posted...

you have any questions on this.

What do you think these people look like

http://www.konbini.com/en/files/2017/02/geek.com_.jpeg
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Welp

Guess I have that in my browser history now
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/02/mcmaster-national-security-council-241264

Ezra Cohen-Watnick (who you may remember as Devin Nunes' White House source on the "Obama wiretapp"/unmasking bullshit) has finally been fired by McMaster

McMaster had tried to fire him a few months ago but Bannon and Kushner had intervened to save him.
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Not that Donald needs a person to source for his lies, but get him out of here for trying to legitimize one of his most ridiculous and unnecessary lies to date.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I just discovered #altfurry, the hashtag for alt-right furries and now I am upset.

Every subculture has terrible people. News at 11.

For what it's worth, the furry community as a whole is doing a hell of a lot better at shunning these toxic people than most groups are.

Skyridge87 posted...

For what it's worth, the furry community as a whole is doing a hell of a lot better at shunning these toxic people than most groups are.

Yeah but it's also got some of those edgy misanthrope types condemning them for shunning the toxic people because "mur furdom of spurch".
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

why

MoogleKupo141 posted...

where did it first start and why were you there

because it was twitter and some of the people who started and pushed ti hard were people i knew and hated already. mostly trolls who wouldn't ever shut the fuck up and would backstab everyone. some of those were people who tried to use gamergate but kept being banned on both 8chan and reddit, rejected pretty much by everyone except ggrevolt (who basically were a group of 40 or so who also eventually admitted to pretty much hating GG anyway and were trying to use it) and a few IRC channels. at this point it's been about... 2 years i think and there's some internal drama where some initial people are bailing quickly. i mean i could get into the politics and subsections more but i don't think there's much point to it, the answer ends up being trolls and people who continued to be rejected from every community they're in.


CaptainOfCrush posted...

What do you think these people look like

a not insignificant number are in that 25-35 range and they likely have a diverse population. like yeah most would be pasty white guys but there's a fair number of fat girls, a couple trans girls (at least, they claim to be), and some ethnic minorities. if you want more demographic stuff, basically looking at the worst mix of old goons (somethingawful) and people who crossposted on /b/ and /pol/.

fedorafreak posted...

How does it get worse and more cancerous

well, the worst i can think of is Sir Wulfington. you can find his ED page if you really want to get into it. but long story short, he wrote a long explanation about how MLP isn't communist enough for his liking, has drawn MLP porn, may be a dog fucker, is somehow too edgy and too much of a tryhard for people who've been trolling for 15+ years (including people at CWC and Kiwifarms while they were around), and still believes himself to be superior. there's more to it but i'd be here for a while. he was one of the guys who latched onto gamergate and threw a fit when he kept getting banned on both reddit and 8chan, after having been banned or disappearing from encyclopedia dramatica's forums. so he went with alt furry and stuck with ggrevolt, probably still one of the like 5 people posting on endchan (yes, they literally made their own chan because 8chan was corrupt or something).

yes, alt furry contains multiple commie bronies who hate capitalism and use nazi memes and are right wing. no this doesn't make sense.

Jakyl25 posted...

http://www.konbini.com/en/files/2017/02/geek.com_.jpeg

you aren't wrong.
you really aren't wrong.
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Hopefully this goes nowhere, but aside from his "tour the states" thing apparently Zuckerberg hired a pollster?

I'd like to just go "lmao" but in this new world of ours who knows

but seriously lmao he can't possibly think he has a chance
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I'm trying to imagine the hypothetical person whose first choice for president is Mark Zuckerberg and am coming up blank
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Are you guys both serious or...
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LordoftheMorons posted...

I'm trying to imagine the hypothetical person whose first choice for president is Mark Zuckerberg and am coming up blank

Donald Trump won the presidency. Kid Rock is polling well in Michigan.

If a guy who's most notable accomplishment is yelling "BAWITDABAH" and looking like a guy who 7-11 passed over for not looking professional enough can do it, I feel like there is not a bar low enough anymore to stop anyone from trying.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Are you guys both serious or...

Me?

Yeah. AFAIK, Zuckerberg has never said he's exploring a potential run but a lot of things he's been doing in the past few months really suggest he's considering it.

one assumes his pollster will return with numbers that make this all fade away as something we can look back on and laugh at
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Paratroopa1 posted...

Making it through the whole term and not winning re-election should be a lot higher than 17% imo

When you consider the fact that odds he'll be impeached by a GOP controlled Congress might be influenced by how well they'll think he'll do, it makes a bit more sense.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

I'm trying to imagine the hypothetical person whose first choice for president is Mark Zuckerberg and am coming up blank

Give me a non political junkie whose first choice is Elizabeth Warren.
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Given her popularity on the left, I think that actually wouldn't be too hard to do. She probably has one of the higher name recognitions out there out of potential candidates.
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i'll take kid rock over zuckerberg.
not because i think kid rock is better or smarter.

but because fuck having the guy in charge of facebook be president.
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I'd easily take Zuck over Kid Rock or Trump.

It's just that he's basically as boring and seemingly out of touch as all of the wonky candidates (like Gore, Kerry, Hillary) without the policy expertise that actually makes those candidates appeal to some people.
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Not that I've seen much from Zuckerberg but what little I have gives me the impression that he is a charisma black hole.

but then i think Clinton comes off as pretty likable most times (of course the other times are pokemon go to the polls tier) and absolutely do not understand or agree with the idea that Trump is charismatic.

so i may not be the norm here
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I have no idea where you guys are coming from here. Zuckerberg would be a great candidate. Young, cool, built a company that makes products that the vast majority of the country uses and likes. Obviously very smart, and an outsider to politics.
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I just never want someone with no political experience to run for President again. If some celebrity wants to run for Governor, Senator, whatever...I mean, I'll still make fun of the media circus like I imagine many of us did for Arnold, but it's generally okay. We're seeing on a near-daily basis though why you absolutely need some experience before becoming President, and now we're seeing the only people more arrogant than people who think they can be President: people who think they can be President without any past political experience. No thank you. At least finish a term as Mayor somewhere first.
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My one hope for this is that maybe congress will codify all those traditions that Trump disregarded and make them mandatory. I know it will never happen, but I can hope.
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HaRRicH posted...

I just never want someone with no political experience to run for President again. If some celebrity wants to run for Governor, Senator, whatever...I mean, I'll still make fun of the media circus like I imagine many of us did for Arnold, but it's generally okay. We're seeing on a near-daily basis though why you absolutely need some experience before becoming President, and now we're seeing the only people more arrogant than people who think they can be President: people who think they can be President without any past political experience. No thank you. At least finish a term as Mayor somewhere first.

It's really amazing if you think about it how political experience (especially on the federal level) has been turned into a negative (now it means you're a "Washington insider" to a lot of people). I think a lot of it has to do with the popular narrative that politicians are largely corrupt which seems to have been on a crescendo since the 2008 financial collapse.

This narrative has been drummed up both on the right (with the tea party and then Trump) and on the left (notably with Sanders). It's not that there aren't some legitimate points here; there is too much money in politics, and it is a potentially corrupting influence. But at the same time it doesn't mean that all politicians are bought and sold, and it certainly doesn't mean you should decide to roll the dice on someone like Donald fucking Trump instead.
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The problem is that it's correct that politicians are largely corrupt, it's just not ONLY politicians who are corrupt, and a lot of non-politicians are actually much worse

Turns out the bad part of "Washington insider" is "insider", not "Washington".

Obvious to anyone who's paying attention, but unfortunately that precludes 99% of Trump's voters.
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i'm pretty simple on it: he runs facebook. i am not voting for one of the big heads of social media. the more distance between social media and government, the better.
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Wanglicious posted...

i'm pretty simple on it: he runs facebook. i am not voting for one of the big heads of social media. the more distance between social media and government, the better.

Sounds like you need a lesson in what's Modern Day Presidential!
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Wanglicious posted...

i'm pretty simple on it: he runs facebook. i am not voting for one of the big heads of social media. the more distance between social media and government, the better.

What's your opinion on Trump's tweets?
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Zuckerberg could realistically be a great candidate. Is he old enough?
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I'm in favor of Trump's Twitter usage. I shudder to think where the country might be if he weren't constantly shooting himself in the foot with ill-advised tweets, and instead shut up and got to work fucking us over.
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HaRRicH posted...

I just never want someone with no political experience to run for President again. If some celebrity wants to run for Governor, Senator, whatever...I mean, I'll still make fun of the media circus like I imagine many of us did for Arnold, but it's generally okay. We're seeing on a near-daily basis though why you absolutely need some experience before becoming President, and now we're seeing the only people more arrogant than people who think they can be President: people who think they can be President without any past political experience. No thank you. At least finish a term as Mayor somewhere first.

Trump's main problem is not inexperience. It's his clinical levels of narcissism that prevent him from putting any effort into learning the job.
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USDA pick non-scientist, “a lot of the science is junk science”, and calls progressives "race traitors"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/02/donald-trump-sam-clovis-old-blog-progressives-obama


ps I am currently in america right now for the first time in my life, and yup I've been met with confederate flags, bikini baristas, and early morning gunfire for no reason
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the fuck is a bikini barista
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https://aerispies.com/i/bikini_baristas_chicas-1024x682.jpg
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I have been in the Midwest and east coast my entire life and have never once seen that. It sounds like a Florida or Texas thing.
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Peace___Frog posted...

the fuck is a bikini barista

I got this one.

It's a popular thing in Washington where you take a coffee stand, add scantily clad women, and sometimes a dash of prostitution.
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actually seattle, I've heard about them for a while and it was one of the first things santa figured to show off!
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Peace___Frog posted...

I have been in the Midwest and east coast my entire life and have never once seen that. It sounds like a Florida or Texas thing.

I've been in Texas my whole life and have never once heard of this. I'd definitely guess Nevada (Vegas specifically) and maybe California or Florida for this. Not Seattle though lol
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For the most important job in the nation, I think you need years of experience in a related position. You only get up to eight years as President. There is a finite time limit to your job and all on-the- job training is -- while important -- also in need of being minimized to better focus on the rest of your job.

It's already an incredibly huge responsibility for all our past Presidents. It even would have been for Hillary, and she had all sorts of related experience alongside a two-time President for a husband. Donald lacks an intellectual curiousity about how to do his job better which makes the problem even worse, but even if he was fully driven to learn it all well then it's still a far bigger risk to bet on someone to learn well and learn quickly with security, taxes, and foreign leaders than with someone with some related experience and proven motivation already.


On the plus side though, America has learned to always apply for the job of your dreams even if you don't have the resume to back it up.
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Oh yeah, i could definitely picture it in Vegas.


Anyway...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/893083735633129472

Our relationship with Russia is at an all-time & very dangerous low. You can thank Congress, the same people that can't even give us HCare!

Does anyone want to tell him about the Cold War?


Furthermore, the NAACP has issued their first ever travel advisory - for Missouri.
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yes Trump keep going on about the poor treatment of russia
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"I won New Hampshire because New Hampshire is a drug-infested den."

this has to be one of the best Trump quotes, but also from the fact he did not win New Hampshire

but then you get to this quote

"I hate taking these people," Trump said. "I guarantee you they are bad. That is why they are in prison right now. They are not going to be wonderful people who go on to work for the local milk people" an apparent reference to U.S. dairy farms.
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Trump only became angrier, saying the refugees could "become the Boston bomber in five years."

and you're back to fuck this old man
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milk people sounds like a slur for dairy farmers
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Didn't Trump hang a map of his electoral victory in the oval office?
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TRUMP
Okay, good. Can Australia give me a guarantee that if we have any problems – you know that is what they said about the Boston bombers. They said they were wonderful young men.

TURNBULL
They were Russians. They were not from any of these countries.

TRUMP
They were from wherever they were

good lord

- refugees could be the next boston bombers! why can't you be more like those nice russians?
- the boston bombers were russians...
- yeah whatever
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GuessMyUserName posted...

USDA pick non-scientist, ?a lot of the science is junk science?, and calls progressives "race traitors"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/02/donald-trump-sam-clovis-old-blog-progressives-obama

I'm sure he's not racist, he's just calling people who support someone of another race race-traitors.
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It was by county, not state. So he likely saw a chunk of red and went "yep i won"
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