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Achromatic
06/12/12 6:51:00 PM
#151:


Oh hey something sold for 12 dollars.

Whoo.

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Ainoxi
06/12/12 7:16:00 PM
#152:


Awesome, can't link my paypal account because I use virgin mobile.

^5, Blizzard.

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GANON1025
06/12/12 8:06:00 PM
#153:


I'm actually almost thinking about spending real money on a crossbow

REAL MONEY

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foolm0ron
06/12/12 8:07:00 PM
#154:


From: Achromatic | #151
Oh hey something sold for 12 dollars.

Whoo.

and a ring for 22.

me and the rmah are going to get along great.

oh jeez

now I want to rush to 60 and start selling crap

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Lopen
06/12/12 8:21:00 PM
#155:


Decided to buy an authenticator because yeah I wasn't using a smartphone one so it didn't work-- and I figure I can make $6.50 on the RMAH by just casually selling things.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/12/12 9:01:00 PM
#156:


I dont have a smartphone or cellphone period


so I have to buy an authenticator for this?

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HeroicGammaRay
06/12/12 9:54:00 PM
#157:


got to the end of the corrupted angel phase a couple times but screwed up. out of repair gold at the moment so i'm calling it a night. hopefully won't take too much longer - would like to clear before 1.03

i seem to have the most luck when the oppressors actually decide to fight the angels for a bit on the other side of the pit i'm circling. but often izual himself is still chasing me and i can no longer circle around the pit because of unit collision, so i screw up. need to try teleporting away - hopefully this won't make the oppressors stop fighting the angels and charge me (like they usually do when i teleport)
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Forceful_Dragon
06/12/12 11:58:00 PM
#158:


take teleport with fractal image?

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TheConductorSix
06/13/12 1:03:00 AM
#159:


So I've played all 4 classes to around level 12-25 and Demon Hunter is by far the most fun. Like stupid fun. There's something addicting about holding down Bola Shot and wiping a room before you walk in.

It's either that or vaulting so you can super speed around the map relentlessly.

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AsurasKordoth
06/13/12 9:00:00 AM
#160:


Hmmm searched things that are under $5 on RMAH and some of them are so tempting... But it feels so wrong to pay real moneys FOR PIXELS.

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HeroicGammaRay
06/13/12 11:20:00 AM
#161:


goddamnit had all the angels dead and he uses his unavoidable frost nova at the exact same time as he spawns freeze grenades, so i get chain frozen and die. would have been fine with just the nova.
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Silvercross
06/13/12 11:21:00 AM
#162:


Got my Wizard to Hell last night. This should finally be the character I get to level 60.

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Ainoxi
06/13/12 1:45:00 PM
#163:


Just sold a crossbow for $50. Guess I'll let that sit in my account until the inevitable expansion...

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HeroicGammaRay
06/13/12 1:53:00 PM
#164:


okay, diablo phase 1 is trivial but it takes about two years, so i get barely any time to practice phase 2, which is not trivial. augh. the current issue is apparently being too close to the random cracks in the ground which makes him keep teleporting to me. haven't yet determined a wide enough loop i can go around that doesn't run into any of them. i would like to just practice this on hell, but that would make me lose my quest progress
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MarvelousGerbil
06/13/12 2:47:00 PM
#165:


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GANON1025
06/13/12 3:21:00 PM
#166:


Used the money I gained from the RMAH to buy a new crossbow. That was neat, though it's still processing.

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Silvercross
06/13/12 3:35:00 PM
#167:


Just bought this.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/101990164/diablo-time-13-x-19-print

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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/13/12 3:39:00 PM
#168:


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This better end with Kormac going "That was a worthy ****, GLORIOUS!"

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Black_Hydras
06/13/12 3:50:00 PM
#169:


Well... onto Inferno Belial on my monk. This is going to be interesting.

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Black_Hydras
06/13/12 3:55:00 PM
#170:


****ed up 5 seconds into Phase 3 and got instagibbed. Weak death.... I think I might be able to pull this off.

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Achromatic
06/13/12 4:02:00 PM
#171:


Another 40 dollars made today.

I am never going to have to buy another Blizzard game again at this rate.

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Black_Hydras
06/13/12 4:03:00 PM
#172:


Dammit, guess not... get one shot by even his slams. No way I can dodge those all fight.

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KamikazePotato
06/13/12 4:04:00 PM
#173:


What are you selling, Chris? Drops from Inferno mode?

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KamikazePotato
06/13/12 4:22:00 PM
#174:


"There is a 3-day waiting period on the Real Money Auction House for digitally purchased copies."

What.

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Achromatic
06/13/12 6:41:00 PM
#175:


From: KamikazePotato | #174
"There is a 3-day waiting period on the Real Money Auction House for digitally purchased copies."

What.


This is so gold farmers cant buy stuff right away. It is fair.

From: KamikazePotato | #173
What are you selling, Chris? Drops from Inferno mode?


Yup.

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Phase
06/13/12 7:17:00 PM
#176:


HeroicGammaRay posted...
okay, diablo phase 1 is trivial but it takes about two years, so i get barely any time to practice phase 2, which is not trivial. augh. the current issue is apparently being too close to the random cracks in the ground which makes him keep teleporting to me. haven't yet determined a wide enough loop i can go around that doesn't run into any of them. i would like to just practice this on hell, but that would make me lose my quest progress
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That is not how quest progress works. You retain all major checkpoints (any quest you can switch to). There is literally a quest checkpoint right before the Diablo fight.

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HeroicGammaRay
06/13/12 7:47:00 PM
#177:


oh, okay! i knew you could switch to there after clearing, but i wasn't sure if you could do so just upon reaching it, and not being able to would have been really bad. that'll be helpful.
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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/13/12 8:57:00 PM
#178:


Since no one bothered to answer my question,


I dont have a smartphone or cellphone period
so I have to buy an authenticator for this, or am I just plain out ****ed from using RMAH?

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MeteorExF
06/13/12 9:02:00 PM
#179:


Players who wish to use Battle.net Balance to buy and sell items will need to attach a physical Battle.net Authenticator orBattle.net Mobile Authenticator app (Google Play, iTunes, Blackberry) to their Battle.net account. Specifically, an Authenticator is required in order to charge up your Battle.net Balance through Battle.net account management or to select Battle.net Balance as the destination for your auction proceeds.

Those who wish to use PayPal™ (available in certain regions) to buy items or receive the proceeds of their auctions will need to sign up for our Battle.net SMS Protect service. With Battle.net SMS Protect, you'll occasionally receive a text message on your mobile phone when making PayPal-related transactions; this message contains a code that you must then enter to proceed with your transaction.


I think that means you can at least use paypal, but not Blizzard Balance.

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foolm0ron
06/13/12 9:22:00 PM
#180:


From: Achromatic | #175
This is so gold farmers cant buy stuff right away. It is fair.

Yeah but... 3 days from when the RMAH is introduced is pretty dumb. If it was 3 days from purchasing the game, then that makes sense.

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foolm0ron
06/13/12 9:23:00 PM
#181:


You need SMS Protect to use Paypal, so yeah without a cell phone you're screwed. I thought there was an e-mail based authenticator, though?

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Achromatic
06/13/12 9:24:00 PM
#182:


From: foolm0ron | #180
From: Achromatic | #175
This is so gold farmers cant buy stuff right away. It is fair.

Yeah but... 3 days from when the RMAH is introduced is pretty dumb. If it was 3 days from purchasing the game, then that makes sense.


I think they are treating it like it is a fresh purchase because to many gold sellers it is the same difference.

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Ainoxi
06/13/12 9:30:00 PM
#183:


AGHGAHGAHGAHGFHG.
Was playing public act two and came across two pairs of those wasps that shoot slow bugs at you at once.
One pack was illusion+molten so all of the ground was death and the other pack had vortex so you got pulled into instant death.
Also the screen looked like a bullet hell of tiny bullets that if two hit you you were dead. D:

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Achromatic
06/13/12 10:02:00 PM
#184:


Bought a 150 dex/100 vit/60 Resist All Chest for 15 dollars

Attempting to resell for 50.

Wish me luck.

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foolm0ron
06/13/12 10:04:00 PM
#185:


Does the RMAH have the same pricing system as the gold AH? Starting bid, and buyout?

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HeroicGammaRay
06/13/12 11:13:00 PM
#186:


man i wasn't planning to use the rmah in any capacity but maybe i should get in on this. about how much gold is worth a dollar?

in other news, my mouse's left click started malfunctioning, so now i have to swap left/right click and put something i only use once every few minutes like energy armor on left click ('right click' according to the game). this means i have to completely retrain my muscle memory for diablo. oh well.
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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/13/12 11:13:00 PM
#187:


Is it any phone or a specific kind of phone

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Achromatic
06/13/12 11:15:00 PM
#188:


From: HeroicGammaRay | #186
man i wasn't planning to use the rmah in any capacity but maybe i should get in on this. about how much gold is worth a dollar?

in other news, my mouse's left click started malfunctioning, so now i have to swap left/right click and put something i only use once every few minutes like energy armor on left click ('right click' according to the game). this means i have to completely retrain my muscle memory for diablo. oh well.
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As a person who learned how to use a left handed mouse last year, I feel your pain. FD and Red can tell you funny stories about that.

From: foolm0ron | #185
Does the RMAH have the same pricing system as the gold AH? Starting bid, and buyout?



Yes.

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TheConductorSix
06/14/12 3:04:00 AM
#189:


So what are everyone's thoughts on the RMAH(sans Chris/Aga who are cleaning up)

The Diablo Forums are packed with threads from pissed off people. In between fits of laughter at people threatening Blizzard with cancelling their WOW accounts( its funny because if you have 4 WOW accounts there's a good chance you aint quittin, Blizzard owns you) here's the gist of things:


Blizzard nerfed Drops and Goblin Farming and the only way to get TO Act 3/4 Inferno is by getting gear that only drops IN Act 3/4 Inferno, essentially forcing people to use the Auction House which is super inflated at the moment. Thus, Blizzard is forcing people to pay to play a game they already paid for.


The Opposing Side is saying "the RNG will eventually drop something you need if you keep playing. I've played 200 hours and keep getting cool stuff for all my classes"

The Other Side is saying "who the hell wants to play 200 hours for one piece of gear. I'm tired of getting 100 quivers when all I need is one head gear item for my Monk"

Witch Doctors are saying "I paid 300 bucks and have the best items and I'm still useless"

And I'm just thinking "If I spend 200 hours playing a game I got for 60 bucks then it was a successful purchase"

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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/14/12 3:34:00 AM
#190:


Id like to get in on the RMAH action

alas I cannot

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Forceful_Dragon
06/14/12 3:54:00 AM
#191:


HGR is in act 4

HGR does not auction house.

Pretty sure that means he cleared act 3 which I'm still impressed with btw. It is possible to force your way through without either Auction House if that's what you want. But that's not for me, I prefer to use the gold auction house.
I've spent millions of gold on my gear, but I've also USED the gold auction house to MAKE millions of gold.

You find something good but it's not for your class? Sell it on the auction house! I still think the most I've picked up from a single piece is around 750,000 (which pales in comparison to some of the things that red and chris have sold) but that 750k goes a LONG way towards buying expensive gear for myself. I didn't have to spend any USD to buy things for gold either.

And inferno act 1 is SO much easier than the rest of inferno. Which means if you are just farming act 1 over and over (which I don't recommend right now, not until they adjust drop rates) but even if that's all you are capable of doing you will get SOME 60 gear. And even if its BAD 60 gear you can salvage it instead of selling it to the NPC. Because guess what? The essences from 60 gear are selling on the AH for 2,000+ gold each right now. I expect that number to gradually go down, but it will still normalize well over 1000 which is a BIG increase on the 200 you would have got from the vendor.

There are plenty of ways to use the AH to MAKE gold and they do not take much time at all.



And thanks to actually having boss gear I was able to do a run of Infernal Ponies with Shoe and Ermine.

Just from the Tomes of Secrets that were dropped and the Essences and Tears from the bad 60 gear that I salvaged I was able to list them (and they sold FAST like they usually do) and made 60k. But I also picked up 5 pieces of gear that might actually be worth something. So I undercut comparable gear and listed them. If all 5 pieces sell (likely I think since I undercut by enough) that'll be another 400k. I didn't even get a lot of rares that run (bad RNG), but it was still worth something because I sell stuff on the AH.


I have 7 things listed on the RMAH as well. I had 8 but I made 1 dollar on something that sold >_<''. Unfortunately for me I haven't rolled any "truly great" gear that is properly RMAH-able, but if something looks "better than just decent" I'll try and RMAH it first. And if it doesn't seem to be worth money I'll just Gold AH it instead.



But if anyone wants me to open the door to the Pony level for them on any level then give me a shout in game. if i'm not in the middle of something I'd be happen to open it for anyone who doesn't have their own Staff of Herding yet. Or run it with me on Infernal if you are geared for it. But if you are going to run it with me I would ask that you have a good set of magic find gear to throw on when it's time to loot the place. My own set has 225% for example which puts me at 300% once the group has 5 stacks of valor. Your set doesn't have to be quite so high but do try to at least have MF on every slot (sans weapon).

(You can pick up MF-only gear pretty cheaply on the auction house >_> )


Point is yeah you could drop a few hundred dollars and have amazing gear, but it's not like there aren't options.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/14/12 4:00:00 AM
#192:


To be fair if youre Melee, you need to Auction house to do anything in inferno :(

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Forceful_Dragon
06/14/12 4:05:00 AM
#193:


Also My DPS is at just about 50k right now (with familiar and force weapon active). I think my next big purchase is going to involve saving up tons of moneys and making a purchase on a massively powerful 1H weapon.

My current weapon has 835.2 DPS, It has 159 Intel, and it also has a socket which is currently slotted for 60% crit damage. (I could increase that to 70% by making a star but I haven't combined my gems yet)

I have a 11% crit rate and so the crit damage actually increases my DPS by more than a red gem would. Even using max level gems and a base crit rate of 5% it seems like you get a bigger percentage boost to your DPS (which is multiplicative) by using the green gems. And it only makes more and more sense the more crit rate you have. I honestly don't see any reason to run red gems in weapons anymore unless there is something I'm missing.


Either way I'm probably shopping for something with at least 1k damage, some amount of intel and a slot. I'll start keeping my eyes open once I'm at 5M again, but it might take a lot more than that to get something perfect for me.

And actually my weapon was 1.5M when I bought it and seems to be worth at least 2 to 2.5M right now. I wouldn't say its appreciated though, it's more likely that gold has devalued. Either way my gear seems pretty solid aside from the weapon so I'll keep working towards that. Wont be upgrading any armor pieces for now unless I happen to stumble across and upgrade while running ponies.

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Forceful_Dragon
06/14/12 4:07:00 AM
#194:


From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #192
To be fair if youre Melee, you need to Auction house to do anything in inferno :(



Or you could just buy a strong MF set and join at the end of pony runs like ermine does ^_^. He isn't adequately geared for inferno yet, but he's already picked up upgrades to himself by doing pony runs with us. Really can't having anyone join us unless they have a good amount of MF though since it averages MF accross the group. >_<''

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TheConductorSix
06/14/12 4:15:00 AM
#195:


The people making the most sense are the Diablo 2 people. They're saying they got their best stuff through meeting people and trading. Since it's a game of Random Drops, the more people you know and party with, the better your chances of finding stuff you need.

I know it's nowhere near the same thing, but when you guys helped me do my first run of the game we would get 7-8 rare drops per boss and then trade useful items.

They're fixing the Drops in Act 1 Inferno so clearly they're acknowledging a problem, but I feel like this is a case of a game trying to force people to play together in an environment that's ever increasingly anti-social.


Which makes me ever increasingly thankful( if that sentence doesn't break 5 English Rules I'd be shocked) that I have you guys to play with later. I can't imagine playing this game solo. I think I spend more time bothering FD/Lopen then I do actually playing.

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Forceful_Dragon
06/14/12 4:19:00 AM
#196:


I don't see trading items to be particularly useful though at end game.

While leveling it was and should be common for us to pick up something that might be good on someone else in the party and offer it to them. But at this point the chance of me picking up some kind of monk-gear and to look at it and say "this might actually be an upgrade for Chris or Shoe" is such a tiny chance. If I get strong monk gear I might as well sell it for as much as its worth on the AH and use the cash to buy strong wizard gear.

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Lopen
06/14/12 4:52:00 AM
#197:


Yeah it's definitely possible to do Inferno through sheer force of will as a wizard without using the auction house or grinding forever for gear-- I'm doing the same thing myself and am up to Belial-- who I've come close to getting past a few times. Figure if I mash my head against him for a few hours I can win that fight. Mostly cause Venom Hydra and Force Armor are both broken and can do most of the work for offense and defense for you, and wormhole teleport can get you past any trouble packs. Kinda skeptical any other class (including DH-- lacking the ability to not get ohkoed by everything via force armor seems like it'd be problematic) can do it though. Course once they smooth out the difficulty that might not be the case anymore.

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GANON1025
06/14/12 6:43:00 AM
#198:


Well, Inferno is certainly no walk in the park for me. Especially with how I build my character, I pretty much can't survive more than a hit. There's smokescreen, but that only helps so much. While I couldn't see getting this far with no AH and no grinding, I'm sure somehow it's doable..

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Forceful_Dragon
06/14/12 8:18:00 AM
#199:


Welp Just finished another pony run. I am the exhausted now but I actually picked up a legit piece of gear. I undercut comparable items and put it on the RMAH for $17 dollars. Going to be pretty stoked if it sells.

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neonreaper
06/14/12 10:20:00 AM
#200:


Theon my playtime is so limited that I can't play with you unless you're in the same act/difficulty as me. It's going to be August before I get into Inferno.

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