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FFDragon
05/18/12 7:26:00 PM
#51:


Resident Evil Survivor

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TheCodeisBosco
05/18/12 7:28:00 PM
#52:


StealThisSheen posted...
TheCodeisBosco posted...
It was just so ****ing lazy! Most of the puzzles felt recycled from older, better games, the graphics were outdated, and there was very little original music. Most of it was just remixes of old stuff.

If Squeak Squad didn't exist, you'd be able to make a great case for Kirby being the most consistent platformer series out there. But... man, that one was a 4/10 at the very best. And even that seems generous.


Whoa, whoa, whoa.

You'd have a point at "Recycled puzzles/music = bad game" if the puzzles and music were originally bad to begin with, but they aren't. At all.

4/10 at most what.


I definitely think the puzzles and music were originally good - in fact, I think Kirby has some of the best music in gaming - but why pay $30 to do essentially the same thing again, only with a few new copy abilities? Instead of just replaying games like Amazing Mirror or Super Star, which have everything Squeak Squad has and plenty more.

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snailien
05/18/12 7:34:00 PM
#53:


Super Mario Galaxy 2

I really don't like that game. Every other Mario game I've played, I've enjoyed, though SMG also to a lesser extent than the others. There are just too few things about it that don't bug me. Everything from the music, sound effects, power-ups, bad Yoshi controls, to the aggravating gimmick levels and overall level design. It just puts me in a bad mood.


Also... I feel obligated to say Suikoden IV since it's my favorite series, but I still find the game enjoyable enough in its own right.


Castlevania: Lords of Shadow

I don't know if this one is fair to call out since I have a difficult time really believing it's a Castlevania game for all the reasons everybody already knows. I should have known I wasn't going to like this game since I don't care for the style of gameplay, but I gave it a chance anyway. What madness drove me to play it through to completion, I may never know.


I'm surprised by the mention of Paper Mario. I really like that game. Actually, I tend to tout it as the best game on Wii and one of the very few Wii games worth owning.

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AlphaRayAllen
05/18/12 7:42:00 PM
#54:


Board 8's bad opinions are showing.

From: Natwaf_akidna | #048
Persona 1

Good god almighty, Persona 1.


This is legitimate, though.

Hoooolyyyy crap Persona 1.

If you had told me that that game had four amazing sequels, I'd call you a f***ing liar.

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PrinceKaro
05/18/12 7:44:00 PM
#55:


Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

(if you don't count CD-i ones)

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LordoftheMorons
05/18/12 7:50:00 PM
#56:


Anyway: Castlevania: Lament of Innocence

3D and Castlevania do not mix well.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/18/12 10:17:00 PM
#57:


Theon_Greyjoy posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Between my least favorite games in major Nintendo franchises, I'd say:

Metroid: Other M > Super Mario Sunshine > Super Smash Bros. Brawl > Majora's Mask > Mario Kart Wii

All of which are by far my least favorite games in their respective series.

YES! First LMS post I've seen in a while and Other M gets mentioned.


This thread asked me to mention the worst game of an otherwise good series, so I mentioned Other M because it doesn't live up to series standards but is still a really good game. Then again, Echoes is my third favorite in the series and that game is oft-considered to be one of the weaker entries, so Metroid fans clearly don't know what a bad game or weak entry is.

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foolm0ron
05/18/12 10:19:00 PM
#58:


Can we disqualify games made by a different developer? So no Other M, no Jak: Last Frontier, etc.

Mass Effect 1
Dynasty Warriors 6

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CherryCokes
05/18/12 10:20:00 PM
#59:


just popping in to question how the f*** Majora's Mask is anyone's least favorite Zelda

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LinkMarioSamus
05/18/12 10:32:00 PM
#60:


On the subject of Other M, how would Board 8 generally feel about Platinum Games making a Metroid game?

CherryCokes posted...
just popping in to question how the f*** Majora's Mask is anyone's least favorite Zelda

It has very, very little of what I want in my Zelda games, and I don't like the three-day system or emphasis on sidequests. I don't dislike Majora's Mask or anything, but I don't really understand how people consider it to be in the upper echelon of the series.

Also, one of the YouTube users I mainly watch LPs from is a huge Zelda fan (Ocarina of Time is his favorite game aside from the Shenmue games and Sonic 3 & Knuckles) and he has never beaten Majora's Mask for the same reasons I've detailed above. This user also really likes the following games:

Star Fox Adventures
Sonic Heroes
Heavenly Sword
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
White Knight Chronicles
Metroid: Other M

And dislikes the following games:

Half-Life
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Final Fantasy X
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Grand Theft Auto IV
Fallout 3
Tales of Vesperia

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LinkMarioSamus
05/18/12 10:34:00 PM
#61:


foolm0ron posted...
Can we disqualify games made by a different developer? So no Other M, no Jak: Last Frontier, etc.

Mass Effect 1
Dynasty Warriors 6


Other M shared the same director with Super Metroid, so I don't think that's fair in its case.

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Naomi_Diamond
05/18/12 10:35:00 PM
#62:


Dark Dawn

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pjbasis
05/18/12 10:36:00 PM
#63:


From: snailien | #053
Super Mario Galaxy 2

I really don't like that game. Every other Mario game I've played, I've enjoyed, though SMG also to a lesser extent than the others. There are just too few things about it that don't bug me. Everything from the music, sound effects, power-ups, bad Yoshi controls, to the aggravating gimmick levels and overall level design. It just puts me in a bad mood.


There are few posts I've seen worse than this.

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GuessMyUserName
05/18/12 10:37:00 PM
#64:


holy god damn f*** how did someone say SMG2

what the hell is going on

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FL81
05/18/12 10:41:00 PM
#65:


Pokémon Diamond/Pearl

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HanOfTheNekos
05/18/12 10:45:00 PM
#66:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
On the subject of Other M, how would Board 8 generally feel about Platinum Games making a Metroid game?

CherryCokes posted...
just popping in to question how the f*** Majora's Mask is anyone's least favorite Zelda

It has very, very little of what I want in my Zelda games, and I don't like the three-day system or emphasis on sidequests. I don't dislike Majora's Mask or anything, but I don't really understand how people consider it to be in the upper echelon of the series.

Also, one of the YouTube users I mainly watch LPs from is a huge Zelda fan (Ocarina of Time is his favorite game aside from the Shenmue games and Sonic 3 & Knuckles) and he has never beaten Majora's Mask for the same reasons I've detailed above. This user also really likes the following games:

Star Fox Adventures
Sonic Heroes
Heavenly Sword
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
White Knight Chronicles
Metroid: Other M

And dislikes the following games:

Half-Life
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Final Fantasy X
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Grand Theft Auto IV
Fallout 3
Tales of Vesperia


Those opinions can't be real.

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MZero11
05/19/12 12:09:00 AM
#67:


From: HanOfTheNekos | #066
LinkMarioSamus posted...
And dislikes the following games:

Final Fantasy X


Those opinions can't be real.


Also Majora's Mask as the worst Zelda... no.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/19/12 12:13:00 AM
#68:


From: CherryCokes | #059
just popping in to question how the f*** Majora's Mask is anyone's least favorite Zelda


I can see it. Personally I love MM, but if you're terrible at the game it's the only one where you can lose a ton of progress if you get to the end of the third day and didn't beat a dungeon or something. You'd have to be terrible at it, but objectively, I can see someone disliking it, especially if they haven't played many Zeldas.

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Lopen
05/19/12 12:55:00 AM
#69:


People are terrible at Zelda games huh

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foolm0ron
05/19/12 12:59:00 AM
#70:


From: LinkMarioSamus | #061
Other M shared the same director with Super Metroid, so I don't think that's fair in its case.


Other M was not made by the same person as SM. I don't care what the credits say.

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Robazoid
05/19/12 1:02:00 AM
#71:


God himself made Super Metroid

Any mortal fools who got big egos thinking they managed to make Super Metroid and didn't see God's obvious influence are the pawns of Satan.

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foolm0ron
05/19/12 1:06:00 AM
#72:


From: MarvelousGerbil | #068
I can see it. Personally I love MM, but if you're terrible at the game it's the only one where you can lose a ton of progress if you get to the end of the third day and didn't beat a dungeon or something.


That's not even the case, because the way each of the dungeons are set up, the progression is split into 3 parts: pre-dungeon song, dungeon arrow, boss. Once you have the song, you can get into the dungeon instantly, and once you have the arrows, you can skip half of the dungeon. Sometimes there is even a pre-dungeon item that will let you skip most of the quest for the song if you need to restart. There is really very little you need to do in one cycle to progress.

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rammtay
05/19/12 1:19:00 AM
#73:


Jak and Daxter the lost frontier
spyro enter the dragonfly
GTA1
twisted metal small brawl

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Zylothewolf
05/19/12 1:35:00 AM
#74:


Final Fantasy 8.
Dragon Quest 2.

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DSAutoResponder
05/19/12 1:38:00 AM
#75:


faceball 2000

one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine hits in a row and then this garbage shows up

unbelievable

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TheKnightOfNee
05/19/12 1:57:00 AM
#76:


Lunar: Dragon Song

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yellowwolley
05/19/12 2:04:00 AM
#77:


Final Fantasy 12
Mortal Kombat Deception
Golden Axe Beast Rider
Sonic and Knuckles
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald (although it did bring some nice pokemon to the series)

(FF2 and Suikoden 4 get too much hate. Not saying theyre great but not as bad as most make out. Also Star Ocean The Last hope is one of my faovourite games)
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nipukka
05/19/12 3:04:00 AM
#78:


So LMS. If Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda, remind me. How many Zeldas have you played?

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azuarc
05/19/12 3:56:00 AM
#79:


Majora's Mask *IS* the worst Zelda game. The three day system is terrible. Plus, the game takes the best parts of Ocarina of Time and stamps them into the mud. I haven't even played a Zelda game since Majora's Mask -- that's how much I hate it. (Well, and I haven't owned a Nintendo console since N64.) I lost the guru for GotD singularly because I hate Majora's Mask and refused to believe it could even win in round 2, let alone beat up on the entire bracket. I knew a Zelda game would win, so I rode out Twilight Princess instead.

All of you defending Majora's Mask either have some very irrational love for it, actually enjoy the idea that a free-roaming adventure game puts you on the clock and that you have to do specific things at exact specific moments, or have found Zeldas since even more lacking (since, as I mentioned, I haven't played anything since Majora's Mask.)
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xp1337
05/19/12 4:13:00 AM
#80:


All of you defending Majora's Mask either have some very irrational love for it, actually enjoy the idea that a free-roaming adventure game puts you on the clock and that you have to do specific things at exact specific moments, or have found Zeldas since even more lacking

...Oh. Well, here I thought the three-day system allowed it to do some things that no Zelda, and very few, if any, games had done before. And that I liked it because the sidequests were leagues beyond the others and the NPCs felt more like actual characters than just completely irrelevant placeholders. However, it seems this must be in error!

The only Zelda I've played that I'd consider taking over MM is Speed-run!OoT. But that's not exactly a fair comparison. OoT becomes a phenomenally better game when you speed run it, and the same might be true for MM, I simply have never tried it.

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Snake5555555555
05/19/12 4:37:00 AM
#81:


Resident Evil Gaiden

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ctesjbuvf
05/19/12 4:54:00 AM
#82:


Super Mario Sunshine is great. I'll go ahead and say it's better than Galaxy even.

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cyko
05/19/12 5:12:00 AM
#83:


Suikoden IV
FInal Fantasy III DS

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ZeroSignal620
05/19/12 5:42:00 AM
#84:


Koudelka (Shadow Hearts)
Silent Hill Origins
Mortal Kombat 4
FFTA

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OmarsComin
05/19/12 5:47:00 AM
#85:


Sonic and Knuckles

what is this disaster of an opinion

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whatisurnameplz
05/19/12 6:04:00 AM
#86:


From: azuarc | #076
I suck at Zelda.


Fix'd

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MoogleKupo141
05/19/12 6:06:00 AM
#87:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Super Mario Sunshine is great. I'll go ahead and say it's better than Galaxy even.

I'll go ahead and say "oh no you didn't"

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Fiyun
05/19/12 6:50:00 AM
#88:


MegaMan Battle Network 4
Phantasy Star III
Wild Arms 4
Sly 3

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metroid13
05/19/12 6:54:00 AM
#89:


Let's get controversial...

First off, my favorite Star Wars game (and favorite Star Wars thing is KOTOR II. Mostly cause of the story, even though it's a buggy mess otherwise. As for worst in the series' that I like... (though some of these are actually fine games...)

Fallout 3
Deus Ex: Invisible War
TES: Oblivion
Mass Effect 1

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__Smurf__
05/19/12 6:56:00 AM
#90:


Starfox Adventures
Skyword Sword
Sonic 2006

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DeepsPraw
05/19/12 7:00:00 AM
#91:


Fallout 3 is a disgrace and a stain on a once-great series.

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Pram_the_Oracle
05/19/12 7:13:00 AM
#92:


If I HAD to pick a weak link for the Wild Arms series...

I'm going with WA:ACF. But they're all great really.

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AlphaRayAllen
05/19/12 7:16:00 AM
#93:


From: azuarc | #079
Majora's Mask *IS* the worst Zelda game


You're the worst Zelda game.

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Jeff Zero
05/19/12 7:29:00 AM
#94:


I am the best Zelda game you people are still just the worst players

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GANON1025
05/19/12 7:30:00 AM
#95:


From: DeepsPraw | #091
Fallout 3 is a disgrace and a stain on a once-great series.


You think F3 is so bad that not even NV can "save" the series, if the series even needs saving? Wow, even people who hated 3 don't think that.

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OmarsComin
05/19/12 7:31:00 AM
#96:


TP is the worst of the mainline Zelda games

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Jeff Zero
05/19/12 7:47:00 AM
#97:


I still like it better than LoZ, AoL and...

...that might be it if we're just talking consoles.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/19/12 7:53:00 AM
#98:


Other M was not made by the same person as SM. I don't care what the credits say.

Sad to say but he did, and he was the reason it sucked.

To be truthful, Id say Yokoi was the brains behind it God rest his soul.

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Mega Mana
05/19/12 7:56:00 AM
#99:


Harvest Moon: It's A Wonderful Life
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Donkey Kong Country 3

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KokoroAkechi
05/19/12 8:29:00 AM
#100:


Main series zelda Rankings

OOT>TP>LttP>MM>WW>SS>LoZ>AoL

MM through SS suffers a lot of problems that really prevents them from being top tier games IMO. The only thing stopping TP from being number one are the wolf sections, and not even all of them since a little of it was fine, but by the time you get to zora's domain I'm fed up with it.

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