Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 34 - "Next time, try to leave a dent."

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Forceful_Dragon
01/29/12 10:07:00 PM
#302:


0-1, time for try #2

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SythaWarrior
01/29/12 10:12:00 PM
#303:


From: Silverliner182V | #298
ad cho'gath is absurd, no lie.

atmas/merc treads/IE/banshees/bloodthirster/LW

run around with 3k hp, 400+ ad, 50% crit, and 100 resists.
best tanky dps.




Atmas+Wit's end+RoA+Tanky Shoes+Tank+Tank does a ton of damage and is hard to kill. Wit's end, Atma, RoA combo really does give him all the damage he needs.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/29/12 10:30:00 PM
#304:


From: SythaWarrior | #303
Atmas+Wit's end+RoA+Tanky Shoes+Tank+Tank does a ton of damage and is hard to kill. Wit's end, Atma, RoA combo really does give him all the damage he needs.


Wits is much worse than it looks on cho, no lie.

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Forceful_Dragon
01/29/12 10:50:00 PM
#305:


1-1 now, game 3 of the night coming up.

Loss ~ Warwick ~ 3-6-0 (0.50) [-12] 1777 [45]
Started 3-0, finished 3-6. So much fun.

Win ~ Gangplank ~ 2-1-13 (15.00) [+12] 1789 [45]
Ran Gold items on jungle GP because I had an odd start that allowed me to make my first set of purchases with an absurd amount of gold so I turned it into item stability via multiple gold items.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/30/12 10:59:00 AM
#306:


Yo Chris:

"Ashe is getting a few little buffs but the one I like best is lower Volley cooldown at low ranks. I think she will still OOM a lot though which concerns me a little. I think she is getting a buff to her mana or mana regen as well which does help some."

yw!

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Biolizard28
01/30/12 12:22:00 PM
#307:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #306
lower Volley cooldown at low ranks.


Ashe/Soraka nightmare lane.

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Aecioo
01/30/12 1:36:00 PM
#308:


Yay Ashe love.

She's gotten the shaft with all these other ADs that can push out a ton of damage early on.

Also, forgot how much an AD Sion can stomp if he's allowed to farm. Didn't even win my lane (was pretty much a tie), but I proceeded to go 9-1-10 in a ranked game while my teammates did everything in their power to throw the game. Hooray AD Sion.

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KamikazePotato
01/30/12 1:43:00 PM
#309:


Still waiting on Ezreal buffs

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Gwindor
01/30/12 1:52:00 PM
#310:


I find that people who play these champions are jerks

shaco
yi
mordekaiser
tryndamere
twitch

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KamikazePotato
01/30/12 1:54:00 PM
#311:


Don't forget Akali.

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KamikazePotato
01/30/12 1:59:00 PM
#312:


But yeah. I love Ezreal, definitely my favorite champion and I'll keep playing him, but he kind of blows. Compared to pretty much any other AD champ, he takes more effort for less reward in nearly every situation.

On that note, I feel like getting a nice, overpowered AD carry. Graves seems pretty idiot-proof.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/30/12 2:02:00 PM
#313:


From: KamikazePotato | #312
But yeah. I love Ezreal, definitely my favorite champion and I'll keep playing him, but he kind of blows. Compared to pretty much any other AD champ, he takes more effort for less reward in nearly every situation.

On that note, I feel like getting a nice, overpowered AD carry. Graves seems pretty idiot-proof.


Ezreal is very very strong...against certain teams. Basically, he's by far the most ranged and mobile carry, the issue is that he has three skills because Flux is never useful.

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KamikazePotato
01/30/12 2:06:00 PM
#314:


Ezreal is mostly just strong against bad players. The good ones know to just stand behind the minions and harass. And that's really a big problem - Ez is a ranged carry that gets outharrassed by every other good ranged carry. If you're building AD, he has nothing that goes over minions except for his autoattack, which doesn't have a very long range. If you're playing AP, you'll have mana problems trying to hit with W (and AP Ez isn't so great anyway).

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TheConductorSix
01/30/12 2:56:00 PM
#315:


Easiest pubstomper: Nasus

If your lane is AD rush frozen heart. If it's magic go force of nature. Then get the opposite one. Then Shury's. Just sit in lane and farm Q. Grab Ghost and Teleport. Farm Q. Team fights break out, don't care. Farm Q.

Hit Shury's. Hit ult. Win games. Never die.

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X_Dante_X
01/30/12 3:01:00 PM
#316:


ignore teamfights this sounds like my kinda champion

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KamikazePotato
01/30/12 4:54:00 PM
#317:


Good lord Graves is powerful

Enemy melee walks up to me, I buckshot, do more damage to them than they do to me

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KanzarisKelshen
01/30/12 5:13:00 PM
#318:


From: KamikazePotato | #314
Ezreal is mostly just strong against bad players. The good ones know to just stand behind the minions and harass. And that's really a big problem - Ez is a ranged carry that gets outharrassed by every other good ranged carry. If you're building AD, he has nothing that goes over minions except for his autoattack, which doesn't have a very long range. If you're playing AP, you'll have mana problems trying to hit with W (and AP Ez isn't so great anyway).


This happens only if you can't abuse the ridiculous powers of repositioning at your disposal. Ezreal is plenty useful already. He just needs a less lopsided toolkit.

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Biolizard28
01/30/12 5:51:00 PM
#319:


Jax
Nunu
Ryze
Zilean
Shen
Urgot
Cassiopeia
Caitlyn
Galio
Sejuani

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IhatethisCPU
01/30/12 6:00:00 PM
#320:


Free Cass week. Woohoo.

Add: Malz. Three perfect games with him in one day, probably should start maining the bastard. -_-'

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Biolizard28
01/30/12 6:24:00 PM
#321:


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1768025

Oh this is so sick.

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Gwindor
01/30/12 6:30:00 PM
#322:


I kind of want a full rune page of flat armor, to troll with Rammus on dominion <_<;;

170 Armor, 100 AD.

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Forceful_Dragon
01/30/12 6:34:00 PM
#323:


From: Biolizard28 | #321
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1768025


I approve.

And for people who don't want to read it themselves:



New Starks Fervor (renamed to Zeke's Herald)
-Uses a Kindlegem now

Stats = +250 Health, +15% CDR, and AURA giving 12% lifesteal and 20% attack speed



New Emblem of Valor
-Uses cloth armor instead of vamp scepter

Stats = +25 Armor, AURA of 10 HP Regen



New Item! Locket of the Iron Solari
-Upgrades from the new Emblem of Valor and a Heart of Gold

States = 300 HP, +35 Armor
AURA: 15 HP Regen
ACTIVE: Shield yourself and nearby allies for 5 seconds, absorbing up to 50 (+10 per level) damage (60 second cooldown).

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Gwindor
01/30/12 6:37:00 PM
#324:


New starks looks great on Mundo?

Iron Sun locket is jawsome

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Biolizard28
01/30/12 6:39:00 PM
#325:


I think the Locket is a fantastic item for supports.

Mostly because Randuin's is expensive as hell and HoG just collected dust otherwise.

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KommunistKoala
01/30/12 6:43:00 PM
#326:


Finally don't have to wait for Randuins. Even with 3 gold items and gold quints it took a god damn long time to get that crap.

This is a great day

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Peace___Frog
01/30/12 7:14:00 PM
#327:


Can't wait to try those things out on Support Mundo. I'm also curious about the prices, just to see how their cost-effectiveness compares to other support items.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/30/12 7:23:00 PM
#328:


So uh, everybody is Karma now? Man, that's gonna be depressing. That locket better be costly, because if it's cheap enough, I can see a team spamming it to victory.

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Biolizard28
01/30/12 7:44:00 PM
#329:


Stark's got nerfed, though, tbqh

"Zeke's Herald?"

Gross.

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Radix
01/30/12 7:46:00 PM
#330:


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=20382228#post20382228

Patch delayed till early Feb

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Biolizard28
01/30/12 7:52:00 PM
#331:


From: Radix | #330
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=20382228#post20382228

Patch delayed till early Feb


Kill me.

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Justin_Crossing
01/30/12 7:54:00 PM
#332:


to be fair

early feb could be wednesday

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Peace___Frog
01/30/12 8:27:00 PM
#333:


From: Biolizard28 | Posted: 1/30/2012 10:44:12 PM | #329
Stark's got nerfed, though, tbqh

"Zeke's Herald?"

Gross.




"We're changing it from a late-game to a mid-game item, because it was a very niche item that was basically useless unless you're Taric and you have 3 auto-attackers on your team"

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Silver_Ermine
01/30/12 8:30:00 PM
#334:


There goes my lots of Ziggs ranked tomorrow :(

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Justin_Crossing
01/30/12 9:43:00 PM
#335:


you know

you people talk of your statistics and how if you're good you'll carry yourself out

but the matter of the fact is, the enemy team never gets karthuses who try to solo baron because they're impatient, then ragequit because we couldn't get there fast enough to help him

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Silverliner182V
01/30/12 9:50:00 PM
#336:


you people talk of your statistics and how if you're good you'll carry yourself out

This only applies to DotA, where you can carry your team by ruthlessly punishing the mistakes the enemy makes. LoL is too forgiving for a strategy like that to work.

People who say that make some sort of a gambler's fallacy. They don't acknowledge that you can roll a bad team every single time in solo queue. 'elo hell' does exist, even if it's effect is vastly overrated.

It's not even a 50-50. The chances of getting a bad player are much better than getting a good one. Most of the good players/top players just happen to duo with another really good person and they lead the team.

Not to forget the whole thing where matchmaking intentionally gives you bad matchups if you're on a winning stream/good matchups if you're on a losing streak. Or so they say.

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KanzarisKelshen
01/30/12 10:07:00 PM
#337:


From: Silverliner182V | #336
you people talk of your statistics and how if you're good you'll carry yourself out

This only applies to DotA, where you can carry your team by ruthlessly punishing the mistakes the enemy makes. LoL is too forgiving for a strategy like that to work.

People who say that make some sort of a gambler's fallacy. They don't acknowledge that you can roll a bad team every single time in solo queue. 'elo hell' does exist, even if it's effect is vastly overrated.

It's not even a 50-50. The chances of getting a bad player are much better than getting a good one. Most of the good players/top players just happen to duo with another really good person and they lead the team.

Not to forget the whole thing where matchmaking intentionally gives you bad matchups if you're on a winning stream/good matchups if you're on a losing streak. Or so they say.


The problem is that you have countering factors to baddies. Use OP champions to get up and you'll reach the competence zone.

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Lopen
01/30/12 10:51:00 PM
#338:


Yeah like I said I probably know more about elo hell than most in this topic, given how I started last season with a few leaves during champ select (didn't know it mattered), experimenting with Kennen, and playing with bad FPS, putting myself down to ~900 ELO with a quickness despite having been more like a 1200 ELO player at the time. You can carry teams in the game you just need to pick a champ who's good at burst and good at killing buildings. Then you just burst down the threats while your team distracts, and when you win the teamfight by yourself you go push buildings by yourself since you can't count on your team to do it.

I mean, yeah, it's hard to win every time doing this, but the only thing you have to do to get out of ELO hell is win more often than not and if you can carry even like 1/3 of your bad teams the other team getting worse teams sometimes too should get you ahead in the end.

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Forceful_Dragon
01/30/12 10:55:00 PM
#339:


http://www.own3d.tv/live/21229

The DuoQ Adventures of Red and FD continue.

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Biolizard28
01/31/12 4:26:00 AM
#340:


From: Peace___Frog | #333
"We're changing it from a late-game to a mid-game item, because it was a very niche item that was basically useless unless you're Taric and you have 3 auto-attackers on your team"


*woosh*

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Peace___Frog
01/31/12 10:29:00 AM
#341:


If it wasn't getting nerfed then it would be stupid.

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Silver_Ermine
01/31/12 1:28:00 PM
#342:


Only about 70 away from plat ommmmmgggg.

Listening to this http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=IdAzVhCof_4&p=n while playing = win and best jukes

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Peace___Frog
01/31/12 3:16:00 PM
#343:


could only watch the first 40 minutes of game 3 before I had class at 4


who won??

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Silver_Ermine
01/31/12 3:29:00 PM
#344:


Peace___Frog posted...
could only watch the first 40 minutes of game 3 before I had class at 4


who won??


CLG EU

:D

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Peace___Frog
01/31/12 3:35:00 PM
#345:


YUS


Man I dunno, I just really like that team. Watching Snoopeh is really really fun, and froggen just cracks me up. I also really like watching yellowpete a lot.

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WickIebee
01/31/12 4:13:00 PM
#346:


I just noticed no one posted this weeks Free Week Champs. Well, if you don't know yet, here they are.

Caitlyn
Cassiopeia
Galio
Jax
Nunu
Ryze
Sejuani
Shen
Urgot
Zilean

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KamikazePotato
01/31/12 4:15:00 PM
#347:


hahahaha

So that contributor that Zeke's Herald is being named after? Tim Buckley.

http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120125/#n2260

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Biolizard28
01/31/12 4:21:00 PM
#348:


From: KamikazePotato | #347
hahahaha

So that contributor that Zeke's Herald is being named after? Tim Buckley.

http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120125/#n2260


Like I said.

Nerfed.

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Gwindor
01/31/12 4:22:00 PM
#349:


as if he needed more ego padding

whatever

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IhatethisCPU
01/31/12 5:22:00 PM
#350:


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1771944

Ziggs tomorrow. ...Actually took less time than I thought it would. ^_^

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Biolizard28
01/31/12 5:28:00 PM
#351:


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=20424822#post20424822

VIKTOR BUFFS OF CONSEQUENCE

GLORIOUS REVOLUTION, COMRADES

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