Lurker > X8Azazel8X

Does The Line need to go up forever? Capitalism is pretty harmful, why is it so important for the economy to never pull back at all?

Japan functions on a level that is unheard of in most Western countries outside of the nordic ones, I feel like we should get people to stop shitting in the streets, stealing cars or not openly shooting drugs on our trains before we tell the Japanese what to do lmao. They're doing way better than we are.

Japan has the second highest immigration rate in the East Asia Pacific region, just behind Australia.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SM.POP.NETM?locations=Z4&most_recent_value_desc=true
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f0ff15df.jpg

Look, I'm just giving you some general advice. Would have done this in literally any political thread where you started your post with "Both sides" unironically regardless of the subject.

Just going to let you know, when you start a post like this? The odds of people reading the rest are pretty low.

You know, one of the reasons why our economy is growing is because of you and many others. Why? Because we welcome immigrants, Biden said, according to reporters traveling with the president at a fundraiser with Asian American and Pacific Islander supporters. The reason look, think about it. Why is China stalling so bad economically? Why is Japan having trouble? Why is Russia?
Because theyre xenophobic, he said. They dont want immigrants. Immigrants are what makes us strong.
Biden had similarly cast Japan, Russia and China as xenophobic during an interview with a Spanish language radio station in March.
The Japanese, the Chinese, theyre xenophobic, they dont want any the Russians, they dont want to have people, other than Russians, Chinese, or Japanese, the president said at the time.

Trump farting? This is the guy people want as President?

Eww

I could never support someone who farts, it's disgusting. The country is divided, and at the center of it is this gaseous loudmouth.

Vote Blue, don't vote for someone who has weapons grade mustard gas colonic expulsions.

Disgusting.

Not a shred of sympathy from me.

Cycling is probably the lowest impact exercise, so if you have problems with your knees bearing impact/weight that's the one.

It's literally explained in the same post it's mentioned. You have to literally not read it to contort it into a statement that is genocidal toward Israelis.

So if a criminal is robbing you and in place of taking you wallet and your watch. He just takes your watch. Would you call that a compromise?

An actual genocide is already occurring in the current solution. The thing she allegedly liked on social media is saying Israel as an apartheid state should be abolished, ie Israelis and Palestinians should all have the same rights in the area under one secular state. Obviously that's not easy to accomplish, but again, the current system is a genocidal one, so acting like she's the one advocating for genocide by allegedly liking that post is rich.

I looked and here's evidence the pro Israel groups cited in her social media likes as her being an antisemite
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f7c81070.jpg

... they highlight "abolish Israel" and imply it shows she's calling for the genocide of Jewish people despite minoring in "resistance to genocide"... but the very next clause, not even next sentence but the next clause after the semicolon, is saying the opposite, that people should all remain in the land just without apartheid.

"Compromise" is very very generous IMO. This college apparently has programs studying genocide and apartheid and resistance but when the time comes that a student who took those classes gets great grades and extracurriculars, they back off and say "we won't risk her actually speaking what she learned in our classes!"

That isn't a compromise.

NPR had a little more context for this. Tabassum had posted on social media about Palestine, and a student group "Trojans (the USC mascot) for Israel" objected. USC claims that that objection grew beyond the college but is very unclear about how that relates to safety.

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The driver quite literally has the right of way. "Hold on, I want to film this tiktok stunt" is not a reason for anybody to have to act against normal traffic laws. Would you just stop and wait if some random dude told you to, when you have no idea what's even happening? Imagine literally trying to blame the driver for this.

Trump wouldn't nuke Gaza - if it gets nuked nobody could use it.

They should fight Hamas on the ground. Bombings and starving children hasn't worked to save any hostages.

I think they should negotiate with Hamas but they shouldn't think of them as a government.

The world believing in geocentrism and flat Earth didn't make either true.

You think Israel doesn't murder people from other countries that have nothing to do with it? Did you miss the aid workers they killed just yesterday? Remember Rachel Corrie? Are you utterly ignorant or just wilfully blind?

He says right as the massive story of Israel killing food aide workers from
other nations drops

@X8Azazel8X: Israel doesn't hold hostages!
Me: Israel is holding thousands of people captive without charges and is subjecting them to torture.
@X8Azazel8X: Oh yeah, WHEN DID THE WAR START??

wtf is even this conversation?

Actually address the point without these desperate attempts at derailment.

...you expect Hamas to check the ID for everybody?
I mean, it seems that you got no problems with Israel killing non-Palestinas, so why would Hamas have to do it?

Yes.

you could just be selectively looking at news that is negative? So your saying he has done nothing but given them weapons in his interactions with him?

Maybe you just don't follow the news or care about the conflict after all.

You've been trying to justify a genocide. It's ridiculous for you to say anyone else doesn't care.

It seems like you're struggling to keep users apart here. Let me help: my username is Hornezz and I posted the statistics on administrative detention in Israel in post #299, which you responded to.

You made the claim that Israel isn't holding hostages, I showed you otherwise. And now you're just going on a ramble and putting ridiculous claims in my mouth.

What does anything in your post have to do with the Israel holding innocent people captive?

You can't say what good he's done because there is none.

No. They were voted in but that doesn't make them not a terrorist group. Hamas committed a terrorist attack not the children of Palestine. Hamas posting accurate information is the stupidest reason to condemn children to starvation.

This is just atrocity propaganda used to justify genocide, when the actual truth looks more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Owa90I77sE

Where did I say anything like that? Where did I mention 1967? Quote it.

And you accuse others of having bad reading skills, oof.

Feel free to explain the difference. Are you denying the casualty numbers in Gaza just like you're denying the prisoners held by Israel without charges?

Were they voted in at any point to run gaza?

I can't tell if you're calling the imprisoned-without-cause-children rapists or if you are denying the well documented fact that Israel detains countless people without cause and without evidence or for waving a Palestinian flag. Either way you should really catch a suspension for this post.

That's an odd non-sequitur response after being confronted by the facts of Israeli large scale detainment of people without charges, after you were just falsely claiming that only one side had hostages.

Just Asking Questions to deny atrocities.

Not a great look.

Were they voted in at any point to run gaza?

> "As of April 2024 Israel holds 2,071 sentenced prisoners, 2,731 remand detainees and 3,661 administrative detainees held without trial. Israel also holds 849 people as 'unlawful combatants'".

> "The data does not include laborers from the Gaza Strip and others who were in Israel lawfully with permits on the eve of the Hamas attack on Israeli communities on October 7, 2023, following which, Israel cancelled all permits for Gaza residents and has held these people, reportedly numbering over 4,000 as of late October 2023, in Anatot and Ofer military camps."

source: https://hamoked.org/prisoners-charts.php

In case anyone's wondering: administrative detention is just what hostage-taking is called when a state actor does it. It's detention without charge or trial that can be renewed indefinitely. Human Rights organizations have documented widespread use of torture and humiliation on these prisoners:

source: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-tor
ture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests/

Right so they get a blank check to rape murder and kidnap anyone around got you. Including innocent bystanders or from other nations that have nothing to do with it or werent even born when your supposed start of the war in 1967....

The majority of Palestinian prisoners held in prison by Israel? Yes.

The measures it applies, combining elements of colonial administration and martial law, cover not only incidents involving recourse to violence but many other activities, non-violent protests, political and cultural statements and the way Palestinians are allowed to move or associate with each other.

Some of the problematic facets of the system Palestinian prisoners are subject to are, according to sociology professor Lisa Hajjar; prolonged detention of suspects incommunicado, impeding a client's access to his lawyer, the routine use of coercion under interrogation to obtain confessions and the introduction of "secret evidence".

According to Red Cross statistics, in the first two decades of the occupation, from 1967 to 1987, one in three Palestinians, about 500,000, were detained by Israeli forces, and on any given day the courts would be crammed with "children in handcuffs, women pleading with soldiers, anxious people thronging lawyers for information." After the Oslo Accords, courts in Palestinian towns were withdrawn to Area C, causing greater difficulty for lawyers and family of the defendant to get access to the tribunals because of the permit system.

For the decade from 2000 to 2009 it was estimated that at any one time anywhere between 600 and 1,000 Palestinians were subjected annually to administrative detention. Amnesty International stated that in 2017 Israeli authorities continue to adopt administrative detention rather than criminal prosecution to detain "hundreds of Palestinians, including children, civil society leaders and NGOworkers, without charge or trial under renewable orders, based on information withheld from detainees and their lawyers", and that administrative detainees numbered 441.

Amnesty International has stated that Israel has imprisoned Palestinians for prolonged periods, without charging them or putting them on trial. Israel has said that detention without trial is a necessary security measure used to avoid exposing confidential information in trials. The European Union has criticized the policy. Within the West Bank, any local army commander can issue an administrative detention order, and the order can be appealed at the local military court, or, if denied there, at the Supreme Court. However, the Supreme Court almost never intervenes.

2023 report by Save the Children found widespread use of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse against Palestinian children in Israeli military detention. The report found that among detained children, 86% were beaten, 69% were strip searched, 60% spent time in solitary confinement, 68% were denied any healthcare, and 58% were denied visits or communication with family.

It is an apartheid state. That is what they do.

He's also giving Israel fighter jets.

They're not the only terrorist group that has territory. That's also not a reason to genocide and starve children. You keep calling a genocide a war to justify the killing of children.

Of course it is. How much more contradictory could you get?

Both sides are holding hostages, Israel just calls its hostages something else.

When Israel invaded and occupied Gaza in 1967.

The Israeli government's.

By giving Israel bombs?

It's not a war.

Hamas is a terrorist organization. Gazans who are mostly women and children don't deserve a genocide for Hamas.

You instantly contradicted yourself. The way for him to try to actually resolve this would be not to continue that policy. "We've always done it" isn't an excuse.

Because Israel's government wants to ethnically cleanse Palestine. It's not more complicated than that.

They're not "caught in the middle", Israel is deliberately targeting them.

The clue's in the word.

Biden is making it easy for American voters to screw themselves over in the next election by not voting for him.

so you think very highly of biden in general and stuff?

What are you saying though with the 2nd part of your post? I don't see any kind of defense to this blatant hypocrisy, trying to greatly restrict abortion for others and then you may get one....complete hypocrisy.

but none of you would say this about biden ..etc...?

How can any rational person not be angered by hypocrisy like this?