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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/11/24 2:23:00 PM #184 | Outlier
Fortybelowsummer - 67 Karo - 52 Jcgamer107 - 49 Inviso - 40 Seginustemple - 38 Evilordexdeath - 34 Johnbobb - 30 Bitto - 27 Rockus - 23 Mythiot - 22 Lightning - 21 Plasmabeam - 20 Snake - 16 Karo will not be saved from outlier --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/11/24 1:32:18 PM #175 | Inviso - I dont understand this movie. Its clearly trying to take elements of religious dogma and demons and tie them into a more modern, scientific arenafor some reason. Seriously, the supernatural shit the movie has going onmeans nothing in the context of anything scientific, expect for the idea that having a bunch of grad students show up to investigate this weird tube of glowing, green ectoplasm hidden under a church inLos Angeles? But yeahtheres a LOT of scientific technobabble going on, because it feels like the movie is TRYING to couch itself in a more serious tone, while never doing a decent job of explaining WHY. Like, you have this weird relationship with Donald Pleasance and Victor Wong where they both seem to be talking PAST each other almost, because one represents faith, and the other represents science, and theyre only there to serve as mouthpieces for those points of view.
But yeah, its a really slow movie, and its really boring when youre looking at a subject matter the average person isnt going to grasp. The music sets a spooky tone, and there is some atmospheric stuff (namely the liberal use of ants, worms and beetles) that helps to at least inspire a sense of dread, but overall, it takes SO LONG to get going and to actually DO anything. And that really sucks when youre got an overly-complicated and preachy plot. Once enough people have been possessed and killed, the movie gets a LITTLE better, but even then, theres so much padding of the runtime. Theres a scene where the non-possessed people keep looking outside to see a bunch of vagrants blocking off the two ends of the alley. Despite this, our male lead (who has the personality of a block of wood, mind you) jumps out into the alley forsome reason. The vagrants predictably start slowly moving towards him (since theyre already established to the audience as killing anyone who leaves the church), and so he scrambles back inside. That scene didnt need to exist. Nor did we need an extended scene of Calder, having been possessed, breaking into Donald Pleasances room and standing in front of a mirrorat the same time as Walter is locked in a closet, spitting witty banter at a pair of possessed muteswho are themselves standing around a girl slowly converting into the devil, I think? The point is that shit hits the fan and a bunch of characters get isolated and locked into different roomsand then the movie just slowly keeps cycling through the same sequences of events that arent really changing from scene to scene. Finally, the ending is nonsense. The movie has not done a good job of explain what exactly the devil (Im FAIRLY confident the green ectoplasm is meant to be the devil) is, nor what its plans are. So once it fully possesses Kelly, it sees a compact and tries to stick its fingers into the mirror, but its too small. So then it tries to go to the bigger mirror in Donald Pleasances room and stick a whole arm inside to try and pull something outandwhy? Also, why does Catherine (who is caught between the possessed Dr. Leahy, the sight of her pinned love interest that she has no chemistry with, and the sight of the demonic mirror attempt) suddenly understand that she needs to push the demon fully into the mirror? She does that, and Donald Pleasance breaks the mirror with a thrown fire axeand then thats it? That saves the dayfor some reason? Thats being reductive, and in any other movie, I could see Push the bad guy into a portal and break the portal behind them as a legitimate ending. But this movie does not do a good job of explaining WHY theres a secondary portal after the devil has already been born anew into our world. So it feels random and almost a cop-out for how to defeat a bad guy thats too powerful to take out by conventional means. Also, lead character Brian, who had like, two scenes trying to hit on Catherine, is so dejected by her loss that he starts having nightmares and visions about her after she got left behind in the mirror realm. Its nonsense. Its absolute nonsense, and the concept of this movie (along with a few genuinely unsettling horror elements) are the only reason I dont rank it lower. Jcgamer107 - 3/10 Johnbobb - This is a very interesting concept that is an absolute drag to get through. Like it's one of the more complex topics ideas on a list of a lot of fairly simple movies (titles like An American Werewolf in London and Killer Klowns from Outer Space tell you directly up front what you're getting), but it was presented like a lecture in between the brief moments of disconnected violence. Overall just didn't click with me nearly as much as I expected it would Snake - I absolutely love John Carpenter, he might be my favorite director of all time, Ive seen nearly all his films multiple times, and Prince of Darkness is no exception, and theres a lot to like here. And I do mean A LOT. This film packs so much in its comparatively short run time, making a film that feels at once overly-bloated and at the same time half-baked. Firstly, the film masterfully blends scientific inquiry with religious horror, hitting constantly on the main driving question of the film - is the sentient liquid demonic or a scientific anomaly? And of course, its not a Carpenter film without oodles & oodles of thick atmospheric locations, paranoia and claustrophobia, that creates a sense of isolation within the viewer, coupled with the pulsating score that of course is pure sensory perfection. We come to the main problem with PoD though - uneven pacing. While the film excels at building dread, the middle section suffers from absolutely sluggish plodding. Long stretches of scientific exposition tests my patience like no other. I can never seem to remember any specific characters either outside of who plays them, which hardly counts. The focus on scientific exploration comes at the cost of character development, which when compared to something like The Thing where each character is uniquely personified making the tension that much higher, Prince of Darkness flounders and loses some of its terror when I just dont care what happens to these people. I will always appreciate this film for its ambition and its chilling moments - after all, at the end of the day, its still a Carpenter piece and no other horror films ever quite feel like his work no matter how messy or drunk on their own sauce they become. Bitto - Rating: D What a disappointing movie. I love the premise of this movie a lot. Having a bunch of scientifically-minded university students working with a priest inside a church to study and contain Satan is good. The idea that Satan is trying to find an "anti-God" to mirror matter and anti-matter is really good. Unfortunately, all the characters are kinda flat. Walter is especially bad. He feels really out-of-place here, like someone on the team felt like they needed some snark in the script but didn't know how to write it. But the others aren't much better. The main couple has a bit of promise in the beginning, but they get shuffled away as soon as they go into the church. It also feels like the tension kinda died 2/3rds into the movie while everyone waits for Satan to wake up...and then immediately job. The shared dream thing is really neat, but they don't really go anywhere with that either. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/11/24 1:32:09 PM #174 | 25. Prince of Darkness (1987 / 257 points)
Directed / Written by: John Carpenter (writer credit as Martin Quatermass) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/ba77047e.jpg Why Its Significant - The second installment in John Carpenters loosely themed "Apocalypse Trilogy" (also consisting of The Thing & In The Mouth of Madness), Prince of Darkness uses a unique blend of scientific inquiry, religious horror, body horror, & cosmic horror to create an oppressing sense of evil & unstoppable dread, showing us a force beyond human control, making us contemplate the fragility of our own existence. Like most of Carpenters work, though cult-like in its status, its influence and ingenious melding of genres can be seen reflected in various future horror works, from the technological cosmic horror of Event Horizon to the trippy and mind-melding world of Annihilation and even its soundtrack has contributed to many unique creations through sampling from future artists. The Rankers Karo - 2 Evilordexdeath - 10 Lightning - 15 Rockus - 17 Seginustemple - 19 Plasmabeam - 20 Fortybelowsummer - 21 Inviso - 24 Jcgamer107 - 25 Johnbobb - 25 Snake - 25 Bitto - 26 Mythiot - 29 Karo - It is discovered that the basement of an old church contains a glowy stasis pod with Satan inside and thus they decide to do the logical thing and poke around it with a university research team. There's this very cool fusion of nerdy science and christian theology that isn't often seen in things, as well as a truly terrifying plotline that revolves around the concept of 'God isn't who we think'. Though the scenario was great I think there was much untapped potential to go further than they did, particularly with all the talk of quantum physics there should have been some sort of quantum angle but whatever. Still its a very good movie that is actually scary rather than just gross or silly, and so many of the people who make all this 'rawr monsters' crap without any depth behind it could learn a lot from this. Evilordexdeath - I don't know... it's cool, very slow paced, John Carpenter's music adds a lot of atmosphere, there's this sense that the ineffable dark forces of the film's Satan figure are so unstoppable that what the heroes are doing is futile, the imagery with the mirrors is neat and I like the way the ending plays out. I just don't feel very strongly about the movie in the end. Maybe it's a little too slow, maybe it's how the characters aren't really interesting enough to make me feel invested in whether they live or die, maybe the world-threatening stakes make the individual deaths and everything feel less significant. I was reasonably into it but it just didn't leave a huge impression on me. Lightning - You will not be saved by the holy ghost. You will not be saved by the god Plutonium. In fact, YOU WILL NOT BE SAVED! This film is a take on satanic horror so refreshing I wound up really enjoying it despite some plainly apparent flaws. So the basic setup of this film is that satan is already manifested on earth in the form of goo in a giant sealed jar, and aims to possess people to turn one of them into an Antichrist who can release the Anti-God from an antimatter dimension to bring about the end of the world. Also, Jesus was an alien. It is put simply a lot to take in. The film has some flaws and you could nitpick it all day. A lot of the lore is confusing, Im still not quite clear what was up with the homeless people (they dont seem to be possessed as they dont die at the end), some of the effects look tacky and the male lead Brian is pretty unlikeable. However, I found myself so wrapped up in this twisted mythology I didnt care that much. Of course it also helps that the film is genuinely disturbing, the signal that plays in peoples dreams is one of the creepiest images of any horror movie this decade, and the scene where the possessed translator is typing is nearly as creepy. This is actually possibly the scariest film on the list for me. It also has a great Donald Pleasance performance and of course a great score from director John Carpenter. What really makes this film for me though is the ending, the whole last sequence is great. First you get the setup with the mirrors, the image of the arm reaching out, Catherine sacrificing herself and that heartbreaking image of her reaching back towards the mirror after its broken. This is then elevated by the final dream signal showing her emerging from the church, that great final scare, and the film cutting right before Brian touches the mirror. Its a real rollercoaster of emotion and terror. I truly wish we had more horror films that were not afraid to get weird like this one. 4/5 Rockus - Underappreciated John Carpenter. Remarkable in that the films biggest challenge is adding weight to a kind of abstract evil, a sinister force, that is largely just given a physical body through the drones of people it possesses and that it mostly accomplishes that task. Something I look forward to seeing again because a number of its nightmarish images are unforgettable and its best qualities will likely outweigh its faults the more times I watch it, and the more I think Ill grow to appreciate it. Seginustemple - Admirably cerebral, although the attempts to square science and religion are frequently more silly than insightful or poignant (this close to guys in lab coats measuring holy water into beakers). It's just fun to watch Victor Wong and Donald Pleasance chew up the technobabble and theobabble respectively. Carpenter knows how to develop tension but most of the actual scares have little impact - unconvincing zombies, guy that turns into beetles, homeless Alice Cooper.The most effective bits are the dream transmissions from the future and the ending sequence leading to the final mirror shot. Plasmabeam - I love John Carpenter, but this movie doesnt do it for me. Feels generic, especially when compared to the other Carpenter movies of its time. Fortybelowsummer - Hail liquid Satan! Now this is how you do suspense, and of all the legendary directors I have watched for this project, this one solidifies John Carpenter as the best for me. Its not just his style of filming; the panoramic shots and odd angles, the slow burning minimalism, the reliance on tension but the willingness to use jump scares or gore. Its the scores he creates, in PoD especially where it flows like an undercurrent throughout the whole film and maximizes the unsettling tension. Other than maybe Phenomena (hail Donald Pleasence while were at it), no other movie has so much added to it by the music, all pulsing and synthy, ominous and ethereal. The problem is, and its a pretty big problem, is that it ends up being anti-climactic after all the superb buildup, and it doesnt feel significant enough. Like, theres the possibility of Satan himself being released from his slumber but it seems confined to this church and this group of people and the small army of homeless people around the area. It never feels like humanity itself is actually at stake. Upon reflection, you would think that the all-powerful devil would have a better plan than zombifying a small group of people that would probably get easily wiped out right away. Still though, I like the blend of science and theology and theres plenty to like even if it does disappoint in the end. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/11/24 12:51:06 PM #173 | Next one coming up soon
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| Topic | Best Video Game Character of the 2010s - Ori vs. Missile / Papyrus vs. Lucina |
| Snake5555555555 04/11/24 3:31:03 AM #26 | up
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| Topic | Fill in the Blank 252: ___ Hard |
| Snake5555555555 04/11/24 12:58:35 AM #9 | Die
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 11:28:25 PM #163 | Next film has a #2 ranking by one ranker
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 9:07:40 PM #154 | Outlier
Fortybelowsummer - 63 Jcgamer107 - 49 Inviso - 39 Seginustemple - 32 Johnbobb - 30 Karo - 29 Bitto - 26 Evilordexdeath - 19 Mythiot - 18 Snake - 16 Rockus - 15 Plasmabeam - 15 Lightning - 11 Sometimes no huge changes are better --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | What's the most technically impressive Nintendo 64 game? (Day 7) + Game G. final |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 8:46:33 PM #6 | Perfect Dark
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 8:38:52 PM #149 | Sometimes dead is better is one of the best horror quotes of all time, top 5 at least
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 8:29:07 PM #145 | Karo - A family moves into a house astride a country road where the speed limit is way too high and these oil tanker trucks fly down the pavement at 70 MPH and despite this being a cause for grave concern for a number of reasons, everyone is just like 'by jiminy, that's one hell of a road!'.
Also nearby this house is a path leading to a creepy little graveyard for pets, which despite the movie's title, has almost nothing to do with the plot. You see, there's also an Indian burial ground that can resurrect dead things and the way everything is going to go is pretty damn predictable the minute the protagonist says 'have they ever done a person'. Then it just turns into a Chucky movie with an unconvincing murderous toddler and everyone dies. The film is an utter mess throughout, nothing feels real or engaging, and everything seems off somehow in a way that I can't really quantify. I am used to child acting being stilted and fake, especially in a movie this old, but somehow the adults were even worse. Congratulations Anakin, you no longer have the worst 'NOOOOOOOO' in cinema. It is just an unremarkable movie that doesnt bring anything new to the table and it needed to be buried a good ten feet under so it could never come to life again. Plasmabeam - An unforgivable crime against the novel its based on. In the book there was a fantastic found-family subplot involving Louis and Jud (and Juds wife), but that all got cut so they couldrush the rest of the story? I cant believe Stephen King wrote this screenplay. Lightning - Sometimes deads better. This is kind of a strange one. This film is intensely memorable with some really strong quotes and moments like the line above. It is also ultimately very flawed and not that well made. The performances are mostly weak other than the actor playing Jud. The directing is mostly pretty unremarkable too. Stephen King does a good job with the screenplay adapting his own book but its not as textured as whats on the page. Yet there is something about this film that sticks in the mind. The film attempts a few stylistic flourishes from time to time like intercutting the family photos, yet they usually fall flat. There are strange tonal shifts, like all of the frankly pretty strange humour with the ghost in the last act. The film also plays what would have been better done subtly very obviously, most notably the final scene. The film has a good sense of creeping dread but not much by the way of moment to moment scares. Also frankly that zombie cat looks terrible. Yet despite that I couldnt look away. This film was actually quite gripping as the story of a family being destroyed by their inability to cope with grief and loss, both historic and recent, takes hold. In that sense this is a precursor to a lot of the horror films of the 2010s that were very focused on grief. At the end of the day it all comes down to story. The central story is so strong here it doesnt matter that the execution on a lot of it is not as well done as it could have been. You want to see what will happen and you are engaged by the themes, so the weaker technical aspects matter less. This all speaks to the sheer strength of the source material. It is a shame that there hasnt really been an optimal adaptation of Pet Sematary. This film falls down on the technical aspects and the 2019 film is better technically but makes some very strange choices in the adaptation. It would be good to have a truly great live action telling of this story because it is very filmable, it just hasnt been done to its best potential yet. Still, for now this flawed film will do. 3/5 Rockus - Mostly works because of how good the premise is. The simple and clear themes carry it when the scene to scene writing and performances are kind of weak. Setting up an anxious talk about death with their kid after the cat dies is a great way to introduce thoughts on mortality and a refusal to accept it and an inability to even truly understand it. If only the craft of the production was better I would admire this film a lot more. Mostly pretty decent though. Seginustemple - Worth it entirely for Fred Gwynn's rural Maine accent. All the hits are here: trouble up on that road, don't wanna go down that rhoad theah, and sometimes dead is bettah! I find the story unfocused, whether by adaptation or by King's hand. The side plot with Denise Crosby being haunted by her infirmed aunt never seems to fit, the 'helpful zombie' guy doesn't work for me at all, and it just feels like this stuff distracts from the main thrust of the burial ground/resurrection business. There's something to be said for the theme of grief and letting go, but I think there is another zombie cat movie on the list that already does that theme bettah. I do like that it maintains a palpable gloomy atmosphere and takes itself seriously throughout, even when it goes full slasher-toddler-zombie mode. Because it's pretty hard to take that seriously. Bitto - Rating: F I heard that King movies are often tough adaptations because King books are so wrapped up in getting into the mind of their characters and their inner thoughts and perspectives. All of those are pretty tough to translate into a much more visual realm. That's all I can think about with Pet Sematary. I feel like I would like this story so much more if I could just relate to the dad. But there's just nothing here. Even his immediate reaction to his son dying feels underwhelming and I just could not really grasp how desperate he feels at the end. I don't know what it is, he just feels really wooden. And as a result, this movie that's about genuine despair is just hard to relate to because the dad is just so...whatever. The other characters are alright, but they aren't enough to save it. I do like the evil son at the end. He does a good job of portraying evil while still having a bit of child-like innocence to him. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 8:28:57 PM #144 | 26. Pet Sematary (1989 / 261 points)
Directed by: Mary Lambert / Screenplay by: Stephen King https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62190cd6.jpg Why Its Significant - Based on the classic Stephen King novel, the film preys on the primal fear of losing a loved one, particularly a child, and the desperation that can cloud judgment. Pet Sematary forces us to confront the monstrous potential that lurks within us all when driven by grief. Unlike slashers or supernatural entities, the true horror in Pet Sematary comes from the corruption of innocence when Gage becomes a monstrous shell of his former self. The film is also a prominent example of a female directed horror film, being directed by Mary Lambert (most well known otherwise for directing several Madonna music videos & modern day Netflix Christmas movies) and was a decent box office hit. Well-referenced, well-quoted (sometimes dead is better), and it received a sequel also directed by Lambert, remake in 2019, and prequel to the remake released in 2023. The Rankers Jcgamer107 - 5 Johnbobb - 11 Inviso - 15 Fortybelowsummer - 16 Snake - 17 Evilordexdeath - 19 Karo - 20 Plasmabeam - 21 Lightning - 25 Rockus - 25 Seginustemple - 27 Bitto - 30 Mythiot - 30 Jcgamer107 - 7/10 Johnbobb - The semi truck scene might honestly be the most unintentionally hilarious horror movie scene I can think of. I mean, the screams, the truck driving absurdly fast through a residential area, the man letting his baby play unattended 10 feet from the highway, the same man unable to sprint after a baby that can barely walk, the faceplant. It just has everything. That being said, I do legitimately like this movie a good bit. For how silly a lot of it is, it's also legitimately creepy and weird and campy and nothing if not memorable. Also Pet Sematary by the Ramones is a fuckin jam Inviso - So yeah, the worst things to happen in this movie were all Juds fault right? I mean, sure, having your family live directly on a road where tanker trucks blaze past without any regard for speed limitsthats asking for trouble. But really, once the cat died, that shouldve been it. You saw how monstrous your dead dog turned out, and how the zombie guy led to the complete burning down of a housejust let Ellie learn that death is a natural thing, thats the end of it. But yeah, he brought Louis to the titular Pet Sematary and showed him its resurrection power, which meant when Gage got run over by a truck, what kind of father WOULDNT try to bring his young son back to life? And now everyone is dead. Seriously though, this movie had an interesting concept, but I cant help but feel it was a little TOO close to Stephen Kings standard writing style (you know, random ghosts for no reason, random premonitions for no reason) to work perfectly. The subplot of a guy dying in the hospital under Louis watch, but he respects Louis from trying to help, so he wants to help toI dont GET it? But at the same time, I do appreciate the slow, creeping horror of resurrecting the cat, but its an evil cat, and then shit hits the fan with Gage getting hit by a truck (under freak circumstances), and Louis sends his family away so he can do what must be done in peace. I will say, the brief period of time when zombie Gage is running around murdering people with childlike gleeprobably the best part of the film. If we got more of that, or more of a slow burn on Gages resurrection, I think Id like this more. As it stands, its just a LITTLE too slow paced in getting to the good part. Fortybelowsummer - I dont wanna be buried in a pet sematary (sorry johnbobb). Pet Sematary (1989) would be pretty solid if it were just the movie. It has enough skin crawling moments to make it serviceable. Unfortunately, the book exists, and I cant help but make the comparison even if I try not to. So, say I look past things like how Louis and Juds relationship is fleshed out, the silliness of Gage, and the botched ending (at least better than the 2019 one). Im still left with wooden acting (other than Fred Gwynne, cant hate on him), poor direction, and a plot that doesnt capture the nuance of the written story. It just doesnt feel as anxious and suspenseful as it should. Still, though, it does have that chilly autumnal vibe thats so appealing. Church and Zelda are classic creepy, and the Jud death is all-timer. I realize reading back through this that it comes off as conflicted (does he like it or not?) but I guess it captures my feelings about it. Not bottom of the barrel and there is enough here to like, but sometimes, book is better ayuh. Snake - A mid-tier King adaptation - which means at the very least it has those cozy nostalgic vibes I love with a strong premise carrying it throughout. Its exploration of grief and the desperate lengths love can push us to is appropriately melancholy and given a lot of quiet room to breathe while the film builds dread throughout. Then Gage returns and things go haywire, leading to what I think is one of the most memorable climaxes in the King canon. I dont really have anything negative to say except for the fact that the film plays everything pretty straight-forward without any real shocks or twists I feel. Its just super focused on the grief aspect and thats great but I think it lacks a certain something special that makes it a favorite for me. Made for one of the best Ice Nine Kills tracks though. Evilordexdeath - I think I have five writeups detailing my feelings toward Stephen King as a writer already, so instead of repeating myself yet again I'll say I liked this one more than expected. I feel like I'll even end up rating it higher than it deserves. This is the second-last movie on the list and the only film I watched to break up the last 28 was Pokmon Movie 05: Mizu no Miyako no Mamorigami Latias to Latios (which I rank as my honorary #16,) so I'm kind of going insane at this point. I'm so sick of dumb-ass, corny-ass T.V. movie-tier horror that the fact this one spends almost an hour building up and letting you get to know characters before it turns into that makes it almost refreshing. Fred Gwynne is great in this. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | What four villains are on the Movie Villains Mount Rushmore? |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 8:01:18 PM #50 | Third Horror Movie Villains
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 7:19:01 PM #132 | Next one is up in a bit, small hint - First film in a top 5 to be dropping
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| Topic | Best Video Game Character of the 2010s - Ori vs. Missile / Papyrus vs. Lucina |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 7:10:42 PM #1 |
Welcome to the best video game character of the 2010s, a continuation of an ongoing contest series dedicated to finding who is the best video game character introduced in each decade. The 2010s saw the amazing tail-end of the 7th generation & the rise of the 8th generation with incredible games and amazing characters from said games. Bracket - https://challonge.com/1e9oonm5 Ori (Ori & the Blind Forest) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/326124f4.jpg vs. Missile (Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/906535f4.jpg Papyrus (Undertale) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9fc71ed9.jpg vs. Lucina (Fire Emblem: Awakening) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/87c868da.jpg Easy Vote: Ori / Missile Papyrus / Lucina --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | What four villains are on the Movie Villains Mount Rushmore? |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 6:57:57 PM #9 | Snake5555555555 posted...
Hannibal Lecter Oh somehow I missed that Joker rule, nevermind! I'll replace Norman Bates with Joker (Heath Ledger) --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | What four villains are on the Movie Villains Mount Rushmore? |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 6:56:55 PM #7 | Hannibal Lecter
Norman Bates Darth Vader The Wicked Witch of the West (gonna get denied just like she did in Green characters I can feel it) Joker sort of seems like a no-brainer but I'm not sure if his original source is significantly dwarfed enough. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | PotD: How many of the 264 issues of EGM do you own? |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 6:47:11 PM #7 | Some days I wished I kept them but just didn't have the space!
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| Topic | PotD: How many of the 264 issues of EGM do you own? |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 6:34:11 PM #3 | Use to own the first 184 complete, sold them all except for 1 with Resident Evil Remake coverage inside. Not sure why my dumbass didn't keep all the RE issues though!
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| Topic | Best Video Game Character of the 2010s - Wheatley vs Solaire / Phelps vs. Corvo |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 6:07:13 PM #26 | up
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 5:22:20 PM #128 | I can definitely see why Suprak did not finish the write-ups, damnnnnnn. Much appreciated regardless!
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| Topic | Signalis |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 4:28:34 PM #53 | I was preaching this game back in 2022 but nobody listened T_T
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| Topic | Best Video Game Character of the 2010s - Wheatley vs Solaire / Phelps vs. Corvo |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 4:27:29 PM #25 | up
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 4:08:06 PM #121 | jcgamer107 posted...
which kinda rips off Carrie if we're honest Tom Savini admitted this himself! --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 3:14:17 PM #112 | Perhaps I am underrating 6 a bit but 4 gets a ton of praise!
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 3:05:36 PM #110 | The only films in the series that potentially hold more interest are probably 2 or 4 (which is by and large considered the best entry in the entire series). But to be honest, that doesn't mean they are anywhere nearly as significant as the first. And genuinely, outside of some kills, these movies are god damn boring as hell! I am not a Friday fan!
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 1:44:24 PM #103 | Outlier
Fortybelowsummer - 53 Jcgamer107 - 38 Seginustemple - 31 Inviso - 28 Karo - 23 Bitto - 22 Johnbobb - 15 Mythiot - 14 Rockus - 14 Evilordexdeath - 12 Plasmabeam - 10 Lightning - 10 Snake - 7 Forty takes a gigantic lead while the rest of the counselors were off having FILTHY sex --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 1:31:14 PM #102 | Whoops sorry, added it!
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 1:21:33 PM #100 | And I know the twist ending is supposed to be iconic, but the last twenty minutes of the film introduce a character that we have not met before, who shows up, announces her tragic backstory to justify becoming a murderer, and then she chases Alice through a series of repetitive and clunky attacks that are nowhere near as violent or effective as the seven other camp personnel shes killed up to that point. Its just weirdits like the movie completely changes its tone and plot style once there are no more disposable characters to kill off, and it leads to a bizarre ending that still manages to take WAY too long once the Pamela Voorhees reveal takes place. Even the jump scare ending feels cheap, since its all a dream (which maybe Im watching a different cut of the film, and the true ending is her getting grabbed, but either way, it feels like a completely unnecessary addition to a movie that hadnt really had anything supernatural up to that point.)
Snake - Its really hard to discuss and talk about this film in a modern context. It just feels so - banal. It doesnt help that it feels like Friday the 13th has been made and remade again & again in the decades since its release. What feels cliche now is only in retrospect, a fact thats a little hard to fault the actual film for. And yet, with this banality, comes a strange nostalgic magic to the film. Theres a strength in its simplicity, not flashy, but focused on brutal kills & traumatic events all perpetrated by this mother in a nice sweater. Before the franchise devolves into a sloppy supernatural-tinged goofy mess, theres a real gravitas here thats absent in pretty much all future films with maybe the second being another exception. While that has its own appeal, it loses the sense of vulnerability and real-world horror that the initial 1980 installment captures so well. So while I dont think Friday the 13th is a particularly strong film on its own, I do enjoy it in the context of the franchise and as the confident stepping stone the slasher genre took and smashed ruthlessly into the ground. Bitto - Rating: D It's a fine slasher with teenage victims. My problem is that I just really don't like these types of movies. The setting is nice. The characters are about par for the course for a movie of this kind. The kills are generally interesting. Jason's mom is a good killer; though, her fight scenes are a little comical when they show her stumbling to fight Alice as opposed to being from her POV. None of it really resonates with me. In a gauntlet, I always feel like there's one movie that just blends in with the rest and this one felt like the one for me this time. I'm very glad we did not go with Cannibal Holocaust being on this list, because I could barely handle a real snake being killed. Evilordexdeath - The story goes that after the success of Halloween, whoever made this film wanted to rush out a knock-off as fast as possible for profit. idk if that's actually true at all but my American friend who loves sitting through shitty horror films keeps telling it to me. While the first person shots from the killer's perspective are used to mask the plot twist that ***HUGE spoilers*** it's actually his mom killing everyone in this film, it still marks the world's introduction to the abstinence-themed superhero, Jason Voorhees. Do you think the contrast of sexuality and violence in this film is just used to titillate viewers with these two visceral concepts, or is Jason's tendency to murder kids who sleep together a reflection of the prudism embedded in the American psyche since the days of the Puritan frontiersman? It's tempting to ask questions like this to try and spice up the task of writing about this profoundly mediocre film. This is like the platonic ideal of mediocrity: the acting and cinematography are super cheesy, the characters are neither lovable enough that I wanted them to survive and felt tension as Jason...'s mom was creeping up on them, nor really hateable enough that I wanted them to die. The scares are always undermined by the over the top strings and the most creative kill is someone getting stabbed in the neck from underneath a mattress - almost all the others are just a "default" stab in the chest or throat-cut. Even the plot twist completely lacks impact because the killer was in like one scene before that (At least I *think* they were one of the people in the pub near the start but I honestly can't say for sure) and the final confrontation between them and the last survivor girl drags on way too long and is honestly really lame until the funny head chop that ends it off. It's one of those movies that isn't really bad, but you almost wish it were because that might at least be interesting. Plasmabeam - Somehow I managed to spend 34 years on this planet without watching the original Friday the 13th. Honestly I wish I had kept that streak going. This movie is dogshit until Mrs. Vorhees arrives, and even then she barely rescues it from landing at #30 on my list. Rockus - Its still kind of odd that the first film in this franchise is (largely) without the unstoppable monster that its known for. The twist that the killer was Jasons mother all along is still a pretty good idea however and one of the better aspects of the movie. While its still mostly pretty competent, and not quite as bad looking as Sleepaway Camp, it isnt anything special either. A serviceable by the numbers slasher that hasnt even found its iconic monster villain yet. But then again Im not really crazy about this franchise on the whole anyway. Lightning - But then hes still there. In 1978 John Carpenters masterful Halloween brought the slasher genre into the public consciousness with quite possibly one of the best horror movies ever made. The end result was of course a host of imitators attempting to cash in and just two years later Friday the 13th was released. This was not a film with a strong vision behind it, in fact they came up with the title first, advertised the film in the trade press and then hastily made the film around it. The result of this was a bland, uninspiring film that took all of the wrong lessons from its predecessor. This is a film that has none of the style or excitement of Halloween, there are a few nicely done sequences of the killers perspective and one big scare at the very end but otherwise it is not much to write home about on a technical level. The idea of the killer is the most interesting thing about this film and makes the way the franchise went afterwards thanks to that final scare kind of disappointing. Even then however, the film undercuts its own mystery by setting up a whodunnit where its impossible to figure out who. The great Tom Savini is on makeup here but its a far cry from his best work. On the subject of effects it also should be penalised for the completely unnecessary killing of a snake, which the handler supposedly did not know about and was very distressed by. Also, the film fails to use its setting to its advantage other than the killers motives, the cast featuring a young Kevin Bacon could be anybody and the kills, even the famous Kevin Bacon death, are largely just boring deaths by sharp object. The film is not awful, some of the long shots are really effective, the cinematography giving a voyeuristic feel like you are the stalker. It mostly just feels quite mediocre and uninteresting, which is all the worse for the fact that this is supposedly comfortably the best in this longrunning franchise. Overall this film was not actively distasteful, just thoroughly uninteresting. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 1:21:22 PM #99 | 27. Friday the 13th (1980 / 296 points)
Directed by: Sean S. Cunningham / Written by: Victor Miller https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7687fa28.jpg Why Its Significant - Friday the 13th took the blueprint laid out by Halloween, upped the body count, and reveled in the anxieties of a generation raised on warnings about premarital sex and drug use. The film established the now-cliched formula of picking off characters indulging in these vices, and, while Halloween dabbled in the killer's perspective, Friday the 13th pioneered its use. Innovative shots placed the audience directly in the eyes of the killer, blurring the line between viewer and villain and intensifying the moments leading up to the kills, as well as providing HUGE pay-off on the twist (one that can surprisingly still catch many a modern first-time viewer off-guard if all you know is Jason!) It was a smash success as an indie film, made for a mere $550,000 but going on to gross nearly $60 million. In fact, it was the first independent film to be acquired by a major motion picture studio and there wasnt any doubt that the film would be a success or had untapped potential - in fact, it was embroiled in a huge bidding war between three studios! The film's expected financial success of course launched a juggernaut franchise, spawning nine sequels, a crossover film with Freddy Krueger, remake, TV series, comics, games, music, countless merchandise and references the media world over. And thats ALL without even properly & fully introducing the franchise's iconic villain Jason. Friday the 13th is undoubtedly one of the most influential horror films ever released. The Rankers Fortybelowsummer - 7 Seginustemple - 15 Karo - 16 Jcgamer107 - 19 Johnbobb - 22 Inviso - 23 Snake - 25 Bitto - 27 Evilordexdeath - 28 Mythiot - 28 Plasmabeam - 28 Rockus - 28 Lightning - 30 Fortybelowsummer - This was the first horror movie I saw as a kid so its immensely important to me. I dont think its an exaggeration to say that it was a life altering event that, along with discovering Stephen King, made me a horror fan. That being said, its not exactly a great movie. A number of the sequels are better, mainly because, yknow Jason is actually the killer in them. The dialogue and acting are quite bad and theres no real plot as it segues from one kill to the next. But does that really matter with a movie like this? Not really, and if youre down with some boobs and blood (courtesy of the GOAT Tom Savini) then youre in for a good time. Spawning 11 other movies, a tv series, games, and mountains of merchandise, its certainly the standard bearer for the slasher genre and an all-time classic. Seginustemple - I can't believe it took me this long to finally see this, and what a pleasant surprise that Jason isn't the killer in this one nor is the hockey mask thing even in the movie. It completely caught me off-guard that it's Mrs. Voorhees in a reverse-Psycho scenario. I have seen Scream, but forgot about that famous bit of trivia from the opening scene. They even provide a plausible motive for killing all these people specifically while they're getting it on - it's about the neglect of their counselerly duties! Besides that it was just good to have a basic, straightfoward slasher in the mix. Nothing fancy, plain and to the point. Karo - A mysterious killer massacres summer camp counselors in this slasher classic. It is pretty by the numbers for these kinds of movies, a bunch of hot people take their clothes off and arbitrarily wander off alone until they get stabbed. I do like how they only show the killer from a first person perspective until the very end, rather than sensationalizing their appearance. It makes it seem like this monster could be any person, instead of some cartoonish freak. Anyway, it is the actions of a killer that make them scary, not any stupid mask they wear. Still, it is full of incredible stupidity like this idiot girl who knocks out the killer THREE times and then just keeps wandering away so they can wake up and continue chasing her. Please just impale yourself on something already before you can further pollute the human genome. It is a serviceable movie that gets the job done, though not really one that is deserving of its pop culture status or having like a dozen fucking sequels, it is simply 'okay'. Jcgamer107 - 4/10 Johnbobb - If nothing else, Friday the 13th is just proof of how good Harry Manfredini was at making an absolutely terrifying horror score. I've never really understood why he didn't end up becoming a recognizable name like so many of the other horror composers of the 80s did. I think Friday the 13th succeeds in basically everything is sets out to do; it's unsettling and thrilling and mysterious in a way that, had it not ended up being one of the biggest horror franchises of all time, would now be viewed as a cult favorite. Inviso - I feel like I must have seen this before, yet I cannot remember having seen a good chunk of it before this watchthrough. Maybe its just a film so ubiquitous (or Ive seen other Friday the 13th films), so I only thought Id seen this before. But ultimately, this isnt exactly a film I enjoyed watching; its VERY boring. The characters all feel interchangeable, with the singular personality trait of slightly flirtatious, and the end result is a LOT of establishing shots of nature, and the woods, and the lake, while the cast are performing mundane tasks like swimming or hitchhiking or playing Monopoly. Its just very slow, and the problem is that this almost feels like a documentary rather than a movie. What I mean by that is that the story isnt told in a way that makes for an exciting film. The events are shown as if this is a very realistic instance of a serial killer attacking a summer camp. You open on some camp counselors getting murdered while having sex, then the next scene is a girl hitchhiking, where shes told about how the camp is cursed. Cut to a different group of kids driving to the camp, where they meet the guy in charge, who winds up leaving soon thereafter. Cut back to the hitchhiker girl, where she gets murdered first, and it just feels completely out-of-place, because she never meets or interacts with anyone else in the cast, and shes only ever referenced as being a good cookso shes JUST there to up the kill count. Thats what I mean though, when I talk about documentary style. It feels like the movie is telling events as they happened, chronologically, regardless of whether they benefit the film as a whole. Theres a point where a girl goes off alone to use the bathroom, and shell eventually get stalked and killed with an axe to the face, but rather than maintain that single scene to really amp up the tension, the movie keeps cutting back to a superfluous Monopoly game. Its just really weird, what the film chooses to emphasize. Hell, AFTER everyone is dead except for Alice, she finds her first body and freaks out, and we then get a scene of all the precautions shes taking to barricade the building shes in. Tying a rope to he doorknob, locking windows, closing blinds, shoving things in front of the door. This is all leading to a single moment where another body gets launched through a windowand then the killer justlets that happen. For some reason, the killer chooses to psychologically torture Alice and Alice alone. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Fill in the Blank 251: ___ Soft |
| Snake5555555555 04/10/24 1:54:27 AM #21 | Love So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy6vBxqlapw&pp=ygUMbG92ZSBzbyBzb2Z0 --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | What's the most technically impressive Game Gear game? (Day 6) + GBC Final |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 9:50:44 PM #2 | Panzer Dragoon Mini
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 9:29:47 PM #84 | rockus posted...
Killer Klowns is a lot of fun. I don't know if I'd even call it a B movie. That tends to refer to budget and this had a few millions put in it, even in the 80s. It's just an intentional campy comedy. I agree, I think it's certainly inspired by b-movies but isn't actually one itself. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 9:28:55 PM #82 | Outlier
Fortybelowsummer - 33 Jcgamer107 - 30 Inviso - 24 Bitto - 22 Seginustemple - 19 Mythiot - 13 Rockus - 13 Karo - 12 Evilordexdeath - 11 Johnbobb - 10 Plasmabeam - 9 Lightning - 7 Snake - 5 New ringleader under the big-top! --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 9:10:00 PM #78 | Critters was beforehand but yes they did all the effects and made the creatures for all the films in that series.
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 9:03:58 PM #76 | The problem for me is I LIKE a lot of the films on this list from Killer Klowns up and my top 10 is loaded with all-time favorites, so a film like Killer Klowns just being a good fun time isn't really enough for me to rank it any higher.
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| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 9:00:53 PM #73 | Needless to say, Inviso's analysis was spot on
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| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 8:56:53 PM #72 | Karo - A group of space aliens that coincidentally look exactly like circus clowns invade a small town in their big top tent spaceship and kill people with pies and popcorn and oh come the fuck on.
The acting is so terrible it might have been on purpose, but I suspect it is more that nobody involved with this really gave a shit (except for the sculptor of the masks, he seems like he is having a lot of fun). The klowns themselves seem to lack a lot of purpose and are woefully inconstant, hey guys lets capture this one person for no reason when we're killing literally everyone else just because she's the female lead! Lets spend more time trolling people than actually harvesting the warm bodies you traveled all the way to this planet to acquire. While amusing at the start it doesn't last, as the movie's one joke gets run into the ground past the point of physical pain. It is a film that is krappy, korny and kompletly lacking of any real komedy and this three ring circus can't end quick enough. Snake - Despite my low ranking here, I actually think this film is absurdly fun, more so than it has any right being. I used to write this film off as dumb and terrible long before actually sitting down to watch it, and I was so glad to be proven wrong. Well, its still dumb, but a film filled with this much creativity and devotion to its premise cannot be terrible! I love all the ridiculous clown weapons, the shallow but relatable and likable protagonists, and its cheesy slap-stick jokes. John Vernon chewing the scenery especially is one of the films biggest delights. While it may not be mistaken for a deep artistic piece, who says it has to be? Bitto - Rating: D- Well...I don't know what I expected from a movie called "Killer Klowns from Outer Space." That's definitely what the movie was about. There's an interesting angle to take it where the bizarre world and nature of clowns are literally alien that they touch on a little bit. I love the design of the circus tent/spaceship. But it feels like these clowns are so....mundane in how they do things. I want weird things coming from aliens! Things that would feel unnatural! But these are just...clowns doing clown things, but also they're murderous. If Mooney was just completely removed from this movie, this would probably jump up 5 ranks. Holy shit, what an awful character. Even his death is underwhelming and oddly tries to paint him in a heroic light? Even though he almost certainly killed two people by locking up the clown with them? I don't really love the ice cream brothers either. Evilordexdeath - It's a B movie, you're supposed to laugh at how stupid it is. There are evil aliens who look like clowns killing everyone. Sure. They shoot popcorn and cotton candy at people and track them with a balloon dog. Alright. The first victim is a redneck who calls his dog Pooh Bear which reminded me of a review of A.A. Milne's book by one Paul Bryant I read on Goodreads the other day: Winnie-the-Pooh, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Win-knee-the-Pooh: the tip of the lip taking a trip of three steps down the palate to return at four to kiss : Pooh. He was Pooh, plain Pooh, in the morning, standing eighteen inches in one sock. He was that scruffy old bear at school. He was Mr Winnie Pooh on the dotted line. But in my arms he was always Bear. That was the most amusement I got out of the movie. If it had ended with a three-way sex scene between the girl, her cop ex, and her new bf, I wouldve rated it at least 10 places higher. Plasmabeam - Absolutely not for me. There are some cool camera techniques at play, but the story is too goofy and the humor is too flat. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 8:56:40 PM #71 | 28. Killer Klowns from Outer Space (1988 / 303 points)
Directed by: Stephen Chiodo / Written by: Charles & Stephen Chiodo https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/37d7dce1.jpg Why Its Significant - I mean - the title says it all. You get what you pay for. Killer Klowns takes its ridiculous B-movie roots and title to creative extremes in a film full of impressive practical effects and ridiculous horror that leaves you alternating between laughing your ass off and contemplating just how disturbing some of this actually is. Its a neat trick that I think revolutionized comedy-horror, stepping up the genre proving you dont have to sacrifice one for the other, I think even lauded films like Shaun of the Dead or Tucker & Dale vs. Evil taking cues from it. Plus - despite only having one film to its name, its a franchise loaded with collectibles, Halloween Horror Nights attractions, and even an upcoming video game due out this year, and talks of a sequel or more have persisted for decades at this point. The Rankers Inviso - 11 Fortybelowsummer - 15 Seginustemple - 18 Johnbobb - 20 Rockus - 22 Lightning - 24 Mythiot - 25 Jcgamer107 - 27 Karo - 27 Snake - 27 Bitto - 28 Evilordexdeath - 29 Plasmabeam - 30 Inviso - I honestly debated ranking this higher, but I just couldnt justify it to myself. The title says it all; there is no other movie on this list that delivers harder what it says its going to deliver. From the first minute the Klowns show up, thats all they are. The movie has a throwaway line about Maybe they showed up in ancient times, and we based OUR clowns off of them! You didnt need thattheyre alien clowns, you dont need to explain the deep lore behind them. Trust me, you had me sold the moment a clown popped out of its circus tent spaceship with a comically-sized net to capture a bloodhound. Everything after that was just running up the score. Seriously though, everything you would expect from a killer klown, you got. They capture people by cocooning them in cotton candy; they shoot guns that fire popcorn (which is just the klowns in their larval state); theres a puppet show that ends with a laser gun; theres a comically-small bicycle which leads into comical fisticuffs (complete with Whatre you gonna do, knock my BLOCK off? before doing just that); fake door-to-door deliveries; sneezing powder and squirting shaving cream; shadow puppets becoming real and eating people; a squirt flower and subsequent murder to create a human ventriloquist dummy; and of course a bunch of clowns in a tiny car who pull out pies and buried a hapless guard in an avalanche of cream. Anything you can imagine is there in this movie, and they left no stone unturned. Is the plot high cinema? Fuck no; the acting is terriblebut for what this movie is, its brilliant nonsense. The weird funhouse vibe of the klown ship, ending with a weird giant mecha klown battle just caps off an utterly insane movie. I dont know who came up with this concept, but that person did a surprisingly good job, all things considered. And kudos for making the klown costumes look JUST clowny enough to seem recognizable, with a perfect amount of deformity to really sell that theyre from out-of-this-world. Fortybelowsummer - A lot of these movies, even the ones that are on the campier side, actually have some deeper meaning to be found. This aint one of them. Its clowns that arrive on earth fromsomewhere, set up shop in a big top/lair and then abduct and kill humans in all kinds of silly clowncentric ways. There are people-melting pies, cotton candy ray guns, and killer shadow puppets. The sets, costumes and props are all awesome and the whole thing is a lot of wacky fun. Its also legitimately disturbing at times and while Im not personally coulrophobic, it could be downright terrifying for someone who is. Theres a reason you see loads of Klowns stuff in Spirit stores at Halloween time. Its a cult classic that went mainstream because its just highly entertaining. Im fine with it being a one and done classic, but I definitely would be down with a sequel or remake of Killer Klowns. Seginustemple - A childhood favorite, they say there's a fine line between horror and comedy and nothing embodies that quite like clowns. Make them an alien race, give them a rockin' theme song, you got a movie goin'. It's a delight just to see how many little gags and bits it can squeeze out of the alien clown logic, with the bonus that the clownimatronic creations are perfectly garish and grotesque. I love how Debbie decides to take a leisurely shower for half the movie after witnessing the monsters murdering people, she's really not too concerned with it. And the screwball ice cream bros make me laugh way more than they should. It's all super dumb but when the electric guitar kicks in and those clowns start mobbing slow I'm way into it. "What are ya gonna do with those pies, boys?" Johnbobb - You know, this movie is so goddamn dumb, and everyone in it is so goddamn dumb, but I have to give it credit where it's due. It put a LOT of work into the set design, costume design, lore. It's legitimately one of the most creative movies on this list, and what blows my mind is that they used all that creativity to make whatever the fuck this is. Rockus - Id never seen this before and expected it to be straight schlock but boy was I wrong. First big surprise was that this looks like a real movie, rather than some no budget trash with a goofy premise. But in addition to that, what was really surprising is how much mileage it gets out of its concept. Normally some intentionally campy horror movie like this I wouldnt expect more than one joke beat to death over 90 minutes but Killer Klowns would continue to come up with fun new gags. From the balloon animal attack dog to the multiple tiny door gag near the end of the movie it was constantly throwing fresh shtick at the screen. Didnt really get a lot out of the ice cream truck duo but the rest of the movie is a lot of fun. A great big monster finale tops things off. Never expected it to be this enjoyable. Lightning - Whatre ya gonna do with those pies, boys? Killer Klowns From Outer Space is a loving homage of 1950s B-movies right down to having a catchy theme tune like the one from The Blob. It is also one of the silliest horror movies I have ever seen. In fact it is so deliberately silly I will probably struggle to give it any kind of critical analysis but Ill try anyway. This is a film where there are aliens that look like clowns for some reason, and capture and kill people using a variety of circus tricks and acts. Why do they look like clowns? No idea, maybe we get the ide of clowns from them. It seems that what they want to do is capture humans, turn them into candy floss and drink them through silly straws. I hope youre keeping up! Now, obviously this is all very light, it is quite similar in tone and level of content to Gremlins but Id say it has something of a meaner edge to it while that film was ultimately pretty wholesome. There are some great gags here as well as some fun low level gore. Sometimes the two are even combined, such as when the police officer just gets pelted with pies and then dissolves. In terms of sheer camp value, this one is pretty up there. Overall I had a fun time with this but it doesnt really excel at either the comedy side or the horror side. Its just a fun, light horror comedy that would be good for a Halloween watch party but probably wont change your life. 3/5 Jcgamer107 - 2/10 --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | What four monuments are on the United States Monuments Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 8:23:33 PM #7 | Statue of Liberty
Mount Rushmore Liberty Bell Washington Monument --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Johnbobb ranks user-nominated Villain Songs: Requiem - The Ranking |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 8:21:50 PM #300 | Top ten! Woooooo!
And fucking damn Creeping Death rules --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Best Video Game Character of the 2010s - Wheatley vs Solaire / Phelps vs. Corvo |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 8:11:52 PM #11 | I figured there was no harm in including it in the side-bracket but I still don't like it!
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| Topic | Best Video Game Character of the 2010s - Wheatley vs Solaire / Phelps vs. Corvo |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 7:01:26 PM #2 | Solaire
Phelps --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Best Video Game Character of the 2010s - Wheatley vs Solaire / Phelps vs. Corvo |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 7:00:01 PM #1 | Menat (Street Fighter) vs. Miranda Lawson (Mass Effect 2) / Oerba Yun Fang (Final Fantasy XIII) vs. Alolan Exeggutor (Pokemon Sun & Moon) - Results (25 votes)
Menat / Oerba Yun Fang
16% (4 votes)
4
Menat / Alolan Exeggutor
8% (2 votes)
2
Miranda Lawson / Oerba Yun Fang
44% (11 votes)
11
Miranda Lawson / Alolan Exeggutor
8% (2 votes)
2
*abstain* / Oerba Yun Fang
8% (2 votes)
2
*abstain* / Alolan Exeggutor
12% (3 votes)
3
Menat / *abstain*
0% (0 votes)
0
Miranda Lawson / *abstain*
4% (1 vote)
1
This poll is now closed.
Bracket - https://challonge.com/1e9oonm5 Wheatley (Portal 2) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e7f82a75.jpg vs. Solaire of Astora (Dark Souls) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0047215c.jpg -------------------------------- Cole Phelps (L.A. Noire) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/85c1e64d.jpg vs. Corvo Attano (Dishonored) https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bf87b246.jpg Easy Vote Wheatley / Solaire Phelps / Corvo --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 4:44:43 PM #59 | Hint - Next up is the movie with NO top 10 rankings!
--- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 3:06:41 PM #50 | Outlier
Jcgamer107 - 29 Bitto - 22 Fortybelowsummer - 20 Karo - 11 Evilordexdeath - 10 Mythiot - 10 Seginustemple - 9 Plasmabeam - 7 Inviso - 7 Rockus - 7 Snake - 4 Lightning - 3 Johnbobb - 2 jc takes a huge lead catching Bitto sleeping while everyone shuffles around in minor ways. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 2:15:00 PM #46 | Evillordexdeath - Is this supposed to be some kind of so bad it's good B-movie cult classic? The acting is next-level awful and there are a few points that are so cheesy and dumb it's a little funny, but not that funny, definitely not funny enough to justify sitting through an hour and 20 minutes of this shit. This is a fairly by the numbers slasher very ineptly executed although some of the kills are slightly more interesting than certain other slasher movies set in a summer camp one could mention. While in older slashers the notion that the victims kind of deserve to be killed is subtext and they're really just annoying, this film makes it very clear that the victims are all targeted as a form of revenge for either bullying or in one case sexual predation. This doesn't make it remotely more interesting. I just thought I'd make that observation about the themes. The one thing I did like was that although most people at the camp are over-the-top assholes there are certain characters who are shown to really care, and the most enjoyable scenes for me were the ones where specific people were nice enough to ultra-shy main character Angela to earn her trust and get her to talk to them.
Lightning - Eat shit and die, Ricky! / Eat shit and live, Bill. What an absolutely bonkers film this is. Overall this is a super campy, exciting film with some great dialogue, absurd performances and memorable kills that seems like the kind of film that Friday the 13th should have been. Until of course it takes an unfortunate turn at the very end. The film starts with an odd, almost stereotypical depiction of a tragic accident then goes into a bizarre scene with one of the most absurd performances I have ever seen from the aunt. It is absolutely wild that she is acting this way and delivering lines like that, and as we see at the end, this is absolutely intentional. Then we get to see a definitely super safe summer camp populated largely by paedophiles, then we start to see some of the very nasty kids and adults meet even nastier ends. The kills here are great, and truly use the camp setting to its full advantage rather than just people getting stabbed. This film also isnt afraid to get nasty, even killing its child characters. The film for almost its entire runtime is an entertaining, simply bizarre slasher film. Unfortunately, for me this is spoiled by its ending which I found to be transphobic, using the trans serial killer trope as well as the transphobic conspiracy theory of forcing kids to be trans, as well as homophobic with the linking of exposure to a same sex relationships with being psychologically disturbed. Now, this movie does have many more charitable readings from queer viewers and I will not force my interpretation on anyone else, that is the beauty of art, it is inherently subjective. Apparently the sequels may mollify it a bit also. However, for me this just left a bad taste in my mouth and took me out of the movie, which is a shame because it was a lot of fun until then. If it doesnt bother you that is okay, but it bothered me. Great last shot however. Bitto - Rating: F This could have been a C- movie. It's entertaining, even if all the characters are pretty flat and the villains are comically evil, or at least, as evil as you could get in a mundane teenager story. The pacing is good. The dialogue kinda reminds me of 2019 IT where all these pre-teens and teens are aggressively acting like they're adults in a way that clearly shows their immaturity. But then the ending happens and that all goes out the window. OK, so the killer is the sheltered girl, which seems obvious. But what's not obvious is that she's actually her brother, raised to be a girl!!! And that makes her....um? Psychopathic? Even outside of a modern 2024 lens, this is just bad. She's like...hissing and scowling at the end like an animal. She kills the character that clearly cared a lot about her. She kills literal children, just because they threw sand at her. She seems sane for most of the movie. And what the hell was that scene where both the brother and sister saw their dad with a man and then the brother molests the sister? It's just so problematic and the fact that it ends on that is just so annoying. The fit campground leader said it best. He literally sees a kid be decapitated and his only reaction is "my god...she's a boy!!!" as if that's the thing to focus on here. Plasmabeam - Went into this movie blind and wasnt sure whether it was deliberately bad or not. The twist with the quiet girl was the only thing I really enjoyed here. Snake - With a better writer, Sleepaway Camp couldve been an all-timer, a psychological slasher perhaps up there with the likes of Psycho. Okay, maybe thats a bit far, but seriously, theres potential here - potential thats completely squandered by shallow cardboard-cutout characters, lacking any real development, complete with everything you expect from a B-movie level script - namely wooden line deliveries and melodramatic outbursts substituting for real acting. Lets be real here - this film is only worth discussing even remotely because of its ending. The portrayal of gender identity is insensitive at best, and transphobic at worst. Its the kind of thing I watched when I was a little younger and thought it was the most shocking, interesting thing ever but as I get older and become more knowledgeable about this subject, it leaves a hollow feeling of exploitation rather than genuine surprise. With a more nuanced approach and a script that treated its characters with respect, Sleepaway Camp could have explored themes of trauma, repressed sexuality, and societal expectations in a truly unsettling way. Instead, it resorts to cheap shock tactics and insensitive portrayals, missing the opportunity to be a thought-provoking horror classic. Johnbobb - https://i.imgur.com/djVBcLH.gif This place has everything. Sexual violence against children, terrible prosthetic bodies, weird transphobia... a protagonist who's more traumatized by her dad being a gay man than she is by him being violently killed in front of her. Look there's a lot of stuff that doesn't age well from the 80s but I have my limits. Fuck you. Rockus - I assume this is largely infamous because of the shocking reveal at the end, which I ultimately just thought was pretty trashy. You might be able to have fun with it in an ironic way, if it isnt supposed to be campy, with a lot of the lines and tropes but its surprisingly pretty tame up until the last twenty minutes. I thought the only memorable kill was the one with the curling iron but otherwise its a basic rinse and repeat low budget slasher with a memorable ending, and even at that it would be more enjoyable if it just looked a little better. But its shot like an old TV sitcom. It looks terrible. Big disappointment. Out of this whole lineup, which is largely really good, I only dislike maybe one or two of these films and this is one of them. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | Board 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 2:14:45 PM #45 | 29. Sleepaway Camp (1983 / 314 points)
Directed / Written by: Robert Hiltzik https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/768c86bb.jpg Why Its Significant - Sleepaway Camp's infamous ending is undeniably a watershed moment for the horror genre. This twist, whether you consider it problematic in its portrayal of gender identity or a transgressive game-changer, undoubtedly left audiences speechless either way. While this is the biggest part of the film's enduring legacy, the awkward dialogue, strange pacing, and often nonsensical scenes makes it stand-out just as much, capping off one of the most gonzo slashers of the 80s that ends up being far removed from the Jasons & Freddys of the decade. Sleepaway Camp received four sequels, a spoof movie, short-film spin-off, and potentially has one or several other sequels / spin-offs in development. Jcgamer107- 10 Fortybelowsummer - 14 Karo - 19 Seginustemple - 21 Inviso - 22 Evilordexdeath - 27 Lightning - 27 Mythiot - 27 Bitto - 29 Plasmabeam - 29 Snake - 29 Johnbobb - 30 Rockus - 30 Jcgamer107 - 7/10 Fortybelowsummer - Stop me if youve heard this one: kids go to camp in the 80s and start getting picked off one by one by a deranged killer. Yes, its been accused of being too derivative, but its pretty obvious that Sleepaway Camp has far more going for it than just being a rip-off of Friday the 13th. It is its own entity and actually better in many ways. The practical effects are outstanding, from the guys skin blistering up, to the mouth snake, to the neck arrow. The characters are fleshed out and generally more than just fodder for the killers blade (or bees). Most importantly its a real commentary on bullying and forced gender identity. I dont see it as transphobic, but it has provoked conversation. Yes a lot of the production aspects are pretty poor quality, but I think it stands out from other shallow slashers. Finally, the ending is absolutely legendary and one of the most shocking and terrifying moments in all of horror. When I first saw this I didnt expect much, but its become a personal favorite, and I dont hesitate to recommend it to horror fans that may have missed it. Karo - So there's a bunch of deaths at a summer camp which for some reason hasnt been shut down despite the owner being a psychopath, the cook being a child molester, and many egregious safety violations in almost every aspect of camp life. I then endured an hour and a half of these brats just so I could find out that the person that was quite obviously the killer was in fact, indeed the killer. Oh, and the girl has a penis! (also expected) I really hate how the reveal is framed and how the movie wants me to feel horrified or disgusted at the revelation like its attack of the killer crossdressers or something, and the tiresome anyone who is different is a monster that is to be feared tripe. I suppose you could make the argument that it decently portrays the harm done when a child is forced into a gender they don't identify with, though I guarantee that was absolutely not the fucking intent of the producers of this. There is probably more to unpack on this issue, but this movie is neither good or remarkable enough to be worth any more of my time. It is certainly something, and I didn't like it. Seginustemple - Wow, I've never seen a movie pull off a last-second hail mary like that. 99% of the runtime is so-bad-it's-good territory, then the last 1% is jaw-droppingly great. Totally creeped me out and had me re-evaluating a lot of what came earlier. I still think the one guy should have been able to escape the beehive kill, that was too funny. He had so much time to get away! Inviso - First things first, I all but guarantee at least two write-ups on this list will be critical about how problematic the plot isand its FUCKING problematic. Not only does the movie disparage gay people (by showing a completely normal and loving gay relationship with the implication that its psychologically damaging), but it very much disparages trans people by randomly having Angela turn out to be Peter the whole time, just making her emotionally damaged and traumatized due to her lunatic of an aunt. And this revelation comes as Angela, who has been viewed as a girl the entire movie, has stripped down and is covered in the blood of a boy she tricked into loving her, with her dick out. This movie is fucking problematic. That aside, as a genderfluid queer person myself, I understand that this is a product of its time, and that aspect of the movie doesnt completely tank it in my eyes. If anything, my biggest problem with the movie is how it does not feel like the producers or the writers had enough content to fill a feature-length movie. There are SO many scenes of mundane camp activities, and while a bunch of them are set-up for kills or reasons as to why kills happen, you still have a bunch of socials and parties and capture the flag games, and camping trips, and it eats up SO much time over the course of the movie. Plus, there are so many repetitive scenes of Judy being a bitch to Angela, Meg egging her on, and then someone breaks up the confrontation. Or Paul flirting awkwardly with Angela while shes socially awkward herself. Or just general repeated shots of Angela interacting with someoneby which I mean the camera gives a close-up of her dead-eyed stare. That being said, the framework of the plot really works. Now granted, going into the movie, I knew the twist ending. But the movie does a good job of really painting all of Angelas victims as assholes (well, aside from the little kids, who are just little shits, more than anything else). Hell, her first victims introductory scene is him creeping on little girls while his co-workers laugh about it. So, this winds up being one of those movies where its fun to watch assholes get whats coming to them. Plus, there was a point after the third kill (fifth if you count the opening sequence) where I started to get annoyed that the camp was still holding activities after two deaths and one attempted murderbut thats the point where the movie really speeds up. Eight of Angelas eleven murders are in that last sequence, and I appreciate the ramping up in that regard, because it really helps with suspending disbelief. Final shoutout though: so many characters in this movie are irredeemable, largely to justify them getting killed. But I just want to shoutout Ronnie and Susie as the only camp counselors who seem like genuinely good and helpful people throughout the entire film. Theyre the only people who seem to care about the kids well-beings enough to want to actively prevent Angela from getting bullied, and having those good characters are helps to at least ground the film and keep it from feeling TOO over-the-top in terms of having a camp completely populated by shitheads. --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me |
| Topic | What is the most technically impressive Gameboy Color game? (Day 5) + GB Final |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 2:06:09 PM #20 | Definitely voting Resident Evil
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| Topic | Fill in the Blank 250: ___ of ___ |
| Snake5555555555 04/09/24 2:58:50 AM #29 | Corrosion of Conformity
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