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Winona

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Gimme them Dino Crisis characters

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Strong Guy

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Scarlet, after banananor picks don't auto-draft for me please.

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20. Mummies (21.5 points)
Nominated by: Anagram (0/5 remaining)
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Importance: 10
Fear: 5
Snake: 6.5

Mummies are probably one of the most iconic generic horror monsters in the business. They're one of the oldest examples too, getting their start around 1827, with the landmark science-fiction novel, The Mummy! or A Tale of the Twenty-Second Century. In this novel by Jane Loudon, the Egyptian mummy Cheops is brought back to life in the year 2126. It's the first English story to feature a reanimated mummy, starting a trend that would continue all the way into our current decade with no signs of slowing down. It was written as a response to Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, and sparks a science vs. faith debate instead, and though Cheops is horrifying in appearance, he's rather well-spoken and easy to befriend. The novel also has a large focus on future technology and progressive feminist ideas, almost unhead of at the time. It's one of the more interesting starts to any horror monster, that's for sure.

The concept of the Mummy would continue to be used through the 1800s, one of the most influential examples being She: A History of Adventure, one of the best-selling fictional stories of all time. Written by H. Rider Haggard, it depicts a lost world ruled by a woman named Ayesha, who reverts to a Mummy like state by the end of the book. Like many similar Mummy-related novels of the time, it more deals with concepts of fantasy, adventure and romance rather than horror, but as always you can totally see the building blocks leading towards the bandaged, slow-walking, curse-fueled mummies we know today.

Bringing us close to this is the Universal Monsters classic, The Mummy from 1932. Easily the most famous incarnation and the origin point for undead Mummy films, it starred Boris Karloff as Imhotep, revived as a mummy in present day as he attempts to mummify a reincarnation of a princess who he loved in Ancient Egypt. Interestingly however, Imhotep isn't really the image we associate with mummies, still much more in line with the 1800s Gothic novels. That honor would go to 1940's The Mummy's Hand, which at last fully features a bandaged, shambling corpse of a mummy, mute and a near mindless brute known as Kharis, who would go on to feature in several sequels. With this iconic image established, this would go on to be the mummy's default mode of operation in fiction for years to come.

Despite their great influence on horror, I've always found mummies one of the least interesting horror monsters in fiction. Often I feel they're used just because they're an easy stock character when you need a generic enemy or something, and I way prefer the old style romantic mummies, which at least had some meaning behind them. Outside of horror however, they're a tad more frightening. Mummification was a process used by many cultures, and it's uncanny how well-preserved some of these are. It's no wonder how they inspire such spine-tingling fiction for many authors. You have, of course, the whole "curse of the pharaohs" thing too, especially with Tutankhamun's curse which has been claimed to have taken many lives of the years. It's a case of the truth being scarier than fiction here, but hey, mummies are here to stay so might as well embrace this importance slice of horror history before you find yourself succumbing to a similar curse!

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Fantastic reasons! I especially agree with #1 and #5.

Guilty pleasure songs

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Verrrry interesting... Also thumbs up for Ahoy in the youtube ranking!

Reasons Halloween is better than Christmas

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Spirit

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Can I just add on that I find it impressive Shonen_Bat lasted this long without losing a nom? I didn't even realize until I wrote this one up.

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21. The Joker (Batman) (21.5 points)
Nominated by: Shonen_Bat (4/5 remaining)
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Importance: 10
Fear: 5
Snake: 6.5

When it comes to comic book villains, it doesn't get more iconic than the Joker. Whether on the page or screen, Joker has influenced countless homages & copycats that take inspiration from his twisted brand of comedic ultraviolence. Much like his caped crusader counterpart, Joker has gone through many iterations over the years, often receiving drastic makeovers to keep up with an ever changing world and a heavily demanding audience. Whether you like the extreme anarchic agency of Ledger's performance, the goofy silver age antics of 50/60s Joker, or prefer a healthy middle-ground like in the Animated Series, there's likely a Joker story for you, and it's equally as likely to be one of the most definitive representations of the character. More than anything, Joker represents an idea you can very easily mold to your will to fit any story and match any rivalry. This makes Joker as interesting as much as it makes him boring. Someone like the Riddler or Scarecrow always feels more compelling to me because they feel more concrete and real, they have very specific goals and wants and points of weakness that make them interesting to read about. Watching the Joker cause general mayhem and even going to certain extremes you weren't expecting can be great if done well, but I feel those are generally few & far between. "Joker's Five Way Revenge" and "Death of the Family" are some of my stand-out examples, and stuff like the Arkham series works best for me because you experience the cruelty of the Joker first-hand, sometimes feeling powerless to stop him. And the Joker is a great film villain since his plots are usually more focused and the actors generally put 110% into the performance. It's easy to see why Joker is a fan favorite, after all, the unknown is what good horror is made of, and his ability to consistently cripple the invincible Bat emotionally has resonated with some as some of the best comic writing out there. And I do like the Joker, I just wish other villains would get the spotlight more often I suppose. Well, clearly, the Joker will still be around for years to come, with many future writers and actors continuing the legacy in what I hope are interesting, gripping, and scary ways.

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I'm back now! My order should still be the same but who knows! I did lose one of my potential drafts unfortunately so I may have to make a replacement for that.

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X-Men I should draft next

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Scarlet I PMed my next picks since I'll be out for a few hours.

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Deadshot

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Fantomex

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Here we go!

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Artemis

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There's always Lego Indiana Jones

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I started Afterparty today and can already tell it will make my list when done.

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Yeah for sure, it's actually a pretty rare example as well.

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22. Let the Right One In (2008 Movie) (20.5 points)
Nominated by: PrinceKaro (0/2 remaining)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICp4g9p_rgo

Importance: 6.5
Fear: 5
Snake: 9

I'm personally surprised it took 4 of these rankings to get Let the Right One In, one of the best takes on vampirism in fiction, nominated. Playing out more like a romantic drama, Let the Right One In is a grounded and deep take on the genre, rivaled only, in my opinion, by Werner Herzog's Nosferatu the Vampyre. Children are very rarely the focus of vampire films, but here, they're front and center. There's Oskar, an oft-bullied boy who meets lonely Eli, an androgynous vampire who just moved in next door, and they slowly fall in love with each other. Adding to the mix is an older man named Hakan, who appears unsavory but has good intentions for Eli (he's worse in the book though). Eli helps Oskar deal with his rampant bullying problems, and there's a particularly violent scene where Oskar splits open a bullies ear with a rod, and it's scenes like this that truly define this film's horror: unpleasant, unsatisfying, sloppy, and all together cruel. If you've seen the film's climax at a certain pool, you will know what I'm talking about. Yet, this horror comes slow and with clear purpose. They're unnatural markers to the inherent strangeness of Oskar and Eli's relationship, and the film takes careful pains to show the similarities between them despite coming from different backgrounds. If you took out the horror elements, you would still have a psychologically driven film that shows how loneliness and depression can sometimes to lead to some extreme actions. This film is an essential and should be at the top for any horror fan to see if they haven't yet! You will be drawn in by the film's dream-like flair and deep-cutting romance, and equally repulsed by the film's unflinching approach to vampiric evisceration.

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Oh thanks for the heads-up

1. Fujiwara no Mokou (Imperishable Night)
2. Nidhogg (Final Fantasy XIV)
3. ASGORE (Undertale)
4. Liquid Ocelot (Metal Gear Solid 4)
5. Beatrix (Final Fantasy IX)
6. The End (Metal Gear Solid 3)
7. Lich King (World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King)
8. Yukari Yakumo (Perfect Cherry Blossom)
9. Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X)
10. Vergil (Devil May Cry 3)
11. Koishi Komeiji (Subterranean Animism)
12. Shadow Rise (Persona 4)
13. Bad Girl (No More Heroes)
14. Oerlich (Pyre)
15. Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
16. Sae Nijima (Persona 5)
17. Psycho Mantis (Metal Gear Solid)
18. The Dullahan (Golden Sun: The Lost Age)
19. Jasmine (Pokemon Gold/Silver)
20. Senator Armstrong (Metal Gear Rising)
21. RinRin (MadWorld)
22. The Spine (Transistor)
23. Nyx (Persona 3)
24. Great Grey Wolf Sif (Dark Souls)
25. Direseeker (Risk of Rain)

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I would like a tag please.

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I'm not very up to date with X-Men these days but almost anything in the past, like pre-2013, I'm knowledgeable with.

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23. Sandman #25 ("Season of Mists: Chapter 4") (20.5 points)
Nominated by: scarletspeed7 (0/5 remaining)
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Importance: 4.5
Fear: 7
Snake: 9

Sandman #25 is a great little issue, one that stands on its own but also tied inextricably to the events that preceded it. It's one of the more overtly horror focused issues of Sandman, set in the haunted house genre and featuring a young boy by the name of Charles Rowland being haunted by the dead souls of his empty boarding school. The concept for this issue was born from the prior issues in the Season of Mists arc, with Lucifer abandoning and locking up hell leaving the dead souls of Earth with no where to go. It's an interlude in a larger story, and thus brings a more grounded and realistic break from the grand machinations of celestial beings. I think what I love most about this story is its casual observations. The issue constantly remarks about the nature of school; Rowland mentions its inescapable smell, past reminders of long-dead headmasters constantly staring and judging you, and the trio of bullies still reveling in their past "glories". The issues uses the dead coming back to constantly criticize living in the past and repeating the same cycles, portraying it as the "real" hell certain people go through everyday, bringing it upon themselves. It's not all doom & gloom though! Rowland meets a friend, Edwin Paine, one of the dead souls, who at first felt scared and forever tied to his place of death. After a brutal attack by some bullies, Rowland meets his maker, or rather meets Death, who agrees to leave Rowland alone due to the craziness going on right now with Hell. This gives Rowland an optimistic feeling, and convinces Paine to come along with him and leave the school behind. Rather than stay in a personal hell of his making, I love that Rowland embraces a sort of freedom instead, ironically having a new lease on life with limitless possibilities. It's a positive message and one we should follow while we're still lucky to be among the living. Leave that musty school smell behind, carve your own path in life, and enjoy it while you can because it doesn't last forever.

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Obrov

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won't you stop your cryin'

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24. The Batman Who Laughs (20.5 points)
Nominated by: Axl_Rose_85 (1/5 remaining)
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Importance: 4.5
Fear: 7
Snake: 9

How do you deal with a character who has the martial arts prowess and detective skills of Batman mixed with the insanity and (lack of) morals of the Joker pushed to cosmic extremes? The Batman Who Laughs aimed to answer that question, debuting in 2017's Dark Nights: Metal storyline as one of the scariest additions to DC's villain line-up in years. Many other dark variations of Batman were also introduced, and while they were compelling and frightening too as direct parallels to the Justice League, Batman Who Laughs quickly stole the show thanks to his Hellraiser-esque design and participating in some of the most heinous actions the DC universe had ever seen. He has also been the one pushed most hard by DC since his debut. On his home earth of -22, the Joker loses any shred of sanity he had left and goes completely bonkers, bringing both Gotham and Batman to their knees as Joker murders Batman's rogues, allies, and even turned children into miniature Jokers to do his bidding. Batman is completely broken and ends up killing the Joker, which releases a gas that slowly transforms Batman into his worst enemy, and in true horror fashion, this process is gradual and explodes into a massacre as Batman eventually kills his entire Bat Family and even the Justice League, and these are done in the worst, cruel ways possible since Batman knows every weakness of them. BwL is so scary because it's not much of a stretch to imagine Batman pooling his limitless resources to become a villain just as easily as he became a hero. Really, anyone with that much uncontrolled power would be one to keep a close eye on no matter their intentions. Batman Who Laughs explores this path well, and whether it's bringing together a group of corrupted Robins or dismembering the Court of Owls, I'm eager to see where this insanity train goes next.

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Okay I think this is all good. RIP Valkyria Chronicles

1. Fujiwara no Mokou (Imperishable Night)
2. Nidhogg (Final Fantasy XIV)
3. ASGORE (Undertale)
4. Illidan Stormrage (World of Warcraft)
5. Liquid Ocelot (Metal Gear Solid 4)
6. Beatrix (Final Fantasy IX)
7. The End (Metal Gear Solid 3)
8. Yukari Yakumo (Perfect Cherry Blossom)
9. Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X)
10. Vergil (Devil May Cry 3)
11. Koishi Komeiji (Subterranean Animism)
12. Shadow Rise (Persona 4)
13. Bad Girl (No More Heroes)
14. Oerlich (Pyre)
15. Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
16. Sae Nijima (Persona 5)
17. Psycho Mantis (Metal Gear Solid)
18. The Dullahan (Golden Sun: The Lost Age)
19. Jasmine (Pokemon Gold/Silver)
20. Senator Armstrong (Metal Gear Rising)
21. RinRin (MadWorld)
22. The Spine (Transistor)
23. Nyx (Persona 3)
24. Great Grey Wolf Sif (Dark Souls)
25. Direseeker (Risk of Rain)

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Haven't listened to all of Bowie's albums fully but:

Ziggy Stardust > Low > Young Americans > Man Who Sold the World > Diamond Dogs > Aladdin Sane > Station to Station > Hunky Dory > Let's Dance > Black Tie White Noise > Blackstar > Scary Monsters > Heroes > Earthling > Pin Ups

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25. Sam (Trickr Treat) (20.5 points)
Nominated by: Great_Paul (0/5 remaining)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su4zZPgDzaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT53vOyhYys

Importance: 4.5
Fear: 7
Snake: 9

Short for Samhain, Sam is sort of a "guardian spirit" of Halloween, ensuring we all follow the rules or else face the consequences. Created by Michael Dougherty for the 1996 short "Season's Greetings", Sam was envisioned by Dougherty as Halloween's answer to Santa Claus due to lacking a definitive icon, and I can definitely see this in many ways. Whereas Santa embodies the spirit of Christmas through giving & love, Sam embodies Halloween through trick 'r treating, wearing a costume, and strictly adhering to traditions such as the jack-o-lantern and showing reverence for the dead. Sam also knows if you've been bad or good, but in true Halloween fashion, murders you if don't follow all the rules laid out by him. Functionally, Sam works as a slasher, just with a much broader scope and mission. Designed with a "cute" slant, Sam appears as a child in a costume of his own, and isn't an inherently bad spirit. I like that he represents the child-like joy of Halloween, appearing at the most purest and innocent time where Halloween gives us a chance to confront our fears in a fun and safe manner. Underneath his mask, Sam is more demonic in nature however, representing the more ancient, darker side of Halloween where it was believed the dead came back to roam the Earth. In both Season's Greetings & Trick 'r Treat, Sam is shown enforcing these rules with several deaths while presiding over the various events taking place in the film, fashioning weapons out of candy bars and lollipops, and his short stature and quick movements are terrifying. I really do think Sam is the perfect representation of Halloween, but unfortunately, he still remains merely a beloved cult icon and hasn't gained much mainstream traction. I guess the main problem is marketability, I mean if you're gonna compare yourself to Santa, you kind of have no chance of matching the warmness and versatility such a character provides. But, Sam is a character that bridges the ancient traditions of Halloween with the modern version of slasher villains and commercialization, but it does take time to become a legend after all. Maybe in the future, Sam will come to a Coke can near you!

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I could legit see RE2 running away with it this year.

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Atrocita

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I guess I will vote for Bloody Mary but I do think Abigail sounds cool too.

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I can already picture some good possibilities, granting I get to them.

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25. Us (2019 film) (20.5 points)
Nominated by: MetalmindStats (1/5 remaining)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNCmb-4oXJA

Importance: 5
Fear: 7.5
Snake: 8

Us is the kind of film any filmmaker would hope to make as their sophomoric follow-up to a huge hit. Jordan Peele's Get Out was a cultural touchstone, deftly tackling race issues head-on with a blend of comedy and existentialism with great touches of modern, viral horror sensibilities that the made the film super accessible for anyone who watched it. It was a film you never really had to look too deeply into to get a clear sense of, and if you did, the attention to detail that was there was extremely rewarding and gave the film a rich texture. Us is a bit of a different beast however.

Peele doubles down on the modern horror aspects that made Get Out so enjoyable, but in doing so, he makes the deeper narrative much more complex and not as clear cut as Get Out was. It's not just about race anymore, it's about our identities, our true selves, our inner demons, learning to speak out against unfairness, the things that divide us. Get Out almost feels like the thesis statement for Us, transforming the "sunken place" into a physical realm that contains parallel versions of ourselves. In 1986, a young girl named Adelaide meets her counterpart here, in a moment of great surrealism that showcases Peele's excellent eye for detail. This experience definitely left an impact on her, but she grew up fine and is now part of a big, loving family. Peele particular uses this family set-up to dispel any notions of stereotypes regrading black characters in film. The stereotypes are instead shifted towards your typical nuclear family structure, in that this is just your averaged flawed but loving family that ends up on the wrong side of some bad things. The first part of Us feels like it pulls a page out of a Strangers sequel, or Funny Games if you prefer, but there's a lot of intrigue in the fact that their assailants are voiceless copies of themselves. This is the part of the film that will satisfy the crowd who would merely want scares, but it's the subtext that truly sells it, even if you won't always notice it, especially on a first watch. And yet, it's a double edged-sword that ultimately detracts from the film for me. There's a huge expository dump near the end of the film that explains a lot of what's going on, and I just think back to Get Out and just how satisfyingly simple it all was.

And, to contradict myself one more time, I think that's why Us is such an incredible effort for Jordan Peele. It's absolutely bold and ambitious, it's clunky and flawed in all the best ways, always interesting, scary, and darkly hilarious. Us demands your attention like nearly no other mainstream horror film today, and I can only hope we continue to see more films like this with a strong creative edge that gets us away from the haunted house jump scare rides we see too often nowadays.
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Johnbobb posted...

aw that's a shame. Is the story different with a partner? I just kind of assumed it'd be the same

just started a little bit today, and it's... off to some kind of a start

From what I know, the story is the same, however, with a partner, you experience a more cohesive narrative, since you both will experience different perspectives at once. I think it leads to some especially interesting narrative moments down the line especially. I would like to try it out one time.
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Sounds cool to me, I could definitely go for something like this right now.
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Johnbobb posted...

Snake5555555555 posted...

[a bunch of horror games]

No Man of Medan? I just picked it up, hoping it's even half as good as Until Dawn

It was a pretty big flop in my eyes. Uninteresting characters, plot filled with holes and non-sequiturs, and it pretty much only relies on jump scares to scare the player (and boy is the game chock full of 'em). Also, the game just doesn't feel as polished or graphically rich as Until Dawn was.

I've heard it's better playing with a partner, since apparently it makes the story make more sense. Haven't tried it though.
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1. Devil May Cry 5
2. Resident Evil 2
3. Blair Witch
4. Pathologic 2
5. The Glass Staircase
6. Metro Exodus
7. Daymare: 1998
8. Them & Us
9. The Outer Worlds
10. Layers of Fear 2
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trdl23 posted...

Snake5555555555 posted...

Sounds cool

Spooktificate of Lifetime and Deathtime Achievement from the GHOULS Charitable Fund

(Ghosts, Horrors, and Other Unnatural Legions in Schooling)

Haha this is awesome!
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Sounds cool
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Very true, I just focused on the horror slant for the write-up! One of my favorites too I didn't mention was Fail-Safe.
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Yeah it's just annoying how Annette has two differing death scenes and both Claire & Leon fight Birkin 3 in the same location somehow.
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NFUN posted...

Snake5555555555 posted...

1955

1949

Oh thank you, I forgot to specify 1955 was the first two-stage hydrogen bomb test.
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26. A civilians perspective of constant, everyday fear of sudden nuclear war during the Cold War. (20.5 points)
Nominated by: trdl23 (1/5 remaining)

Importance: 10
Fear: 9.5
Snake: 1

Not being alive at the time, I can only imagine the constant paranoia one must've felt throughout this era, especially in the 1950s-1960s span. It was the age of nuclear proliferation, kick started by the United States with the Soviets joining in with their first two-stage hydrogen bomb test in 1955. From there, a nuclear arms race was born, encompassing several different countries including China and France. In addition to this, the increasing tensions of the Space Race were born from this arms race, giving people another reason to fear total annihilation of the world they know and love. Propaganda from both sides only rose this to unsettling heights, some of the most notable to me being school safety videos like the infamous "Duck and Cover" short. Back then, without the internet, lies and rumors were a lot more liable to be spread and believed. As much I think this was an interesting time, it's also a time I do not very much envy being a part of, at least when it comes to this nuclear fear.

This fear was of course reflected in the pop culture of the day and in our modern times. In the realm of horror, one obvious example should come to mind: Godzilla. Japan knew first hand what it was like to be on the receiving end of one of these doomsday weapons, and as such, Godzilla wasn't just one of the earliest responses to this growing problem, it remains one of the most critical take downs of nuclear war ever, a sobering reminder to the devastating power that humanity now wielded. On the American side, we had The Twilight Zone. Many episodes were made about the Cold War, nuclear weapons, and the space race, but I think only one captures the paranoia so accurately, and that is "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street". It's a timeless lesson about mass hysteria and how our fears and prejudices can sometimes lead to more destruction than the very bombs we're so afraid of. Finally, there's the British film Threads, a completely grim, hopeless, harrowing series that lays the fearsome power of these bombs out bare, the first fictional series to depict a nuclear winter and its catastrophic effects on the human race.

It can be hard to describe just what people were going through during this time, the fear that was felt every time a new news report would come out about some recently launched object. I like to think though we learned a lot from this particular era, and certainly, while this level of fear is still around in some capacity today, it's not nearly as intense as it was during the Cold War. Despite these horrors though, we persevered and made it through as best we could.
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I just really hate how badly they screwed up the continuity, in the lab especially. There's very little cohesion in this game between scenarios.
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Alien

Funny guess but nope.
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Too iconic! Also I don't know if it was intentional or not but I kind of liked the hotel theme going on lol.
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A guy tries to impress his wife by undergoing a species-change.

The Fly?
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