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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 5:11:55 PM
#30
By the way, next ranking, the first #1 of the project drops!

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Ellie vs. Sazh / Cave Johnson vs. Emet-Selch
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 4:26:11 PM
#28
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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 2:27:30 PM
#24
But yeah, having other characters in the film allows for greater range of scenes, and interplay between characters with regards to the demons attacking them. Jake being cowardly in contrast to Ash works much better than Ash having to play cowardly and heroic all to his lonesome. And Jake actually gets some funny moments, namely when Annie accidentally stabs him and then keeps slamming the door on his still-conscious body while trying to secure the cabin. All of that for him to get sucked into the basement to an insane torrent of blood water. And of course, once the other characters show up, Ash works better as the leader of a group of survivors, and he generally gets to be a badass in the face of demonic possession and whatnot.

Ive also gotta comment on the ending, because it is amazing. The movie foreshadows The man who fell from the sky early on, and then while sealing away the ancient evil, Annie opens a portal to another realm. Ash gets sucked back in time with his car, boomstick, and chainsaw, and suddenly he becomes the slayer of monsters in medieval times, and becomes worshipped by the knights that have arrived to see his victory. Its great to see them all in awe of him, while he clearly wants NOTHING to do with this location, and its just another heaping helping of shit on his life. Its a great capper to the movie, and its a set-up to a sequel that would still work even if Army of Darkness never got made. Thats funny to me.

Karo - Some idiots fuck around with the necronomicon and that goes about as well as it usually goes, as an unspecified evil is set loose to wreck havoc upon the world with bad special effects.

It feels somewhat different in its handling of horror elements with a certain kind of comedy that is rarely seen in the genre. Sometimes it works very well, such as the antics of Ash vs his evil hand, but more often it doesn't, especially towards the end. It needed a lot more of this kind of humorous levity and a lot less of just shit faced ghouls going rawrrr for what it was trying for to truly work.

The premise started to get real old by the time the movie was over, as silliness has a tendency to do. It tries to be unique at least, but ends up being just... too much everything and I don't really have any desire to watch more of the franchise.

Plasmabeam - Infinitely better than the original, but not my thing.

Snake - I really hate how low I have to rank this since Evil Dead II is a treat. The over-the-top violence and slapstick humor is incredibly well-done here. Bruce Campbell of course shines as Ash, delivering a performance that is both charismatic and hilarious. His witty one-liners and over-the-top reactions as he battles his dismembered hand or the possessed Henrietta are iconic for a reason. I guess one point that knocks it down for me is the simplistic plot if I had to force myself to say a negative but really its not something I even think about when Im watching here!

Jcgamer107 - 4/10

Johnbobb - The order I've watched the Evil Dead franchise: Army of Darkness -> Evil Dead Rise -> Evil Dead II
I watched Army of Darkness as part of the 90s horror list, and ended up placing it 35th/40. I feel like these movies are kind of "you had to be there" kind of thing. Like seeing Ash Williams put the chainsaw onto his stump arm is more of a "hey he did the thing" moment for me rather than a "woah that's so cool!" moment as I expect it would've been seeing it for the first time in the 80s. It's funny sometimes; not like hilarious but it got the occasional chuckle. I definitely liked ED2 more than Army of Darkness but that wasn't really a high bar. Overall, just okay.

Evilordexdeath - I'm watching these movies in chronological order and writing these blurbs immediately after I finish, so the last two films I saw prior to this one were Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer and The Fly. In both of those writeups I talk about how I feel more frightened by more grounded and realistic horror movies. Evil Dead II is well known for being pretty much the polar opposite of something like that so I wasn't expecting to like it very much, but god *damn* did I hate this movie more than almost any other I've seen in my life. I wanted to turn it off after 10 minutes because I felt like everything else would be minor variations on the exact same shit and at the end I felt completely justified in that assumption. Scary thing pop up, everyone scream, Ash smash with axe, blood splatter, rinse and repeat for God was it only 84 minutes? This felt like a 4 hour film.

I haven't seen too many legendarily bad movies like Disaster Movie or what have you. I would say the worst movie I've ever seen is Movie 43, which from what little I sat through was basically just people vomiting, pissing, menstruating etc. on each other for two hours or something with no attempt at wit, structure, overarching narrative or any of the components that go into a watchable film. This reminded me very much of that except as a horror movie, with its main advantage being that Movie 43 is also a profoundly lazy film and this at least has some definite effort put into the direction, set building, special effects, even shot composition and there is some sense of imagination in the different creatures and setpieces and all that. But the sense of complete meaninglessness and repetition, the deep exhaustion at how dull it all was, and the overwhelming desire to turn the movie off 10 minutes in were all the same. I know this won't be last in the rankings - in fact I expect it to be in the top 10 in one or two lists, and I can see how it could be fun to get drunk and watch this with your boyfriend or something, but personally, I was immediately convinced I had found my #30.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 2:27:17 PM
#23
10. Evil Dead II (1987 / 176 points)
Directed by: Sam Raimi / Written by: Sam Raimi, Scott Spiegel
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Why Its Significant - The smoldering question no one was asking - why wasnt Evil Dead 1 on the list instead of 2? Its because anyone who knows this film knows the obvious answer - Evil Dead II is the first film, only better in every regard. Instead of being a mostly serious, straight-forward horror movie, Evil Dead 2 remakes the first film with a coat of slapstick comedy, forming the splatstick horror Evil Dead would come to be defined by and most associated with going forward. Series protagonist Ash is fully-formed here with several iconic quotes and of course the chainsaw arm coming from this film! Evil Dead 2 had many films aping its style, such as Peter Jacksons Dead Alive, Tucker & Dale vs Evil, Bubba Ho-Tep, Demon Wind, Cabin Fever, and who knows how many countless other b-movies out there, and even helped inspire DOOM. Evil Dead 2 was followed by three sequels & a TV series and a massive multi-media franchise.

The Rankers
Lightning - 3
Mythiot - 5
Rockus - 5
Bitto - 6
Seginustemple - 8
Fortybelowsummer - 9
Inviso - 12
Karo - 17
Plasmabeam - 17
Snake - 19
Jcgamer107 - 22
Johnbobb - 23
Evilordexdeath - 30

Lightning - Groovy.

The Evil Dead was a small gory horror movie that was made on a shoestring budget by people with no care or knowledge of typical genre conventions, leading to an instant classic with a distinct style and a bit of camp to it. Years later this led to a sequel, Evil Dead II, which amps up the horror while also introducing a lot more camp humour and slapstick. Most importantly, director Sam Raimi goes absolutely wild here with his directing, the camera flies around, there are incredible transitions, there are moments where the screen almost seems to warp and tear, or when the whole frame turns around. It is a truly dynamic movie and it makes it feel like a huge horror blockbuster despite being a low budget movie mostly confined to a cabin.

The word for Evil Dead II is maximalist. Everything is turned all the way up. Bruce Campbell is incredibly heightened and hes great here. The gore is strong, the horror is strong, and the humour is very big. In a sense this film feels like a ghost house ride that lasts for two hours but never gets boring, and never feels cheap like some of todays jump scare heavy horrors. It also builds on the mythology set up by the first film, going from a straightforward demonic possession tale with a bit of zombie imagery into a full blown fantasy with different worlds, magic, and even time travel. It is the kind of film where there are simply so many different aspects to it that just writing about it makes it sound like its not even real. If there had been any restraint imposed on it it just would not have been the same.

My only real issue with the film is the first five minutes, which sort of recap the first film with only two of the characters. This doesnt quite work and feels a little jarring. The film is also clearly intended to follow the first film and often references it with shots like Ash peering out through the trapdoor. You get past this part very quickly however, and after that its an absolutely wild rollercoaster of a horror film.

5/5

Rockus - Not quite a remake and not quite a sequel, Bruce Campbell called it a requel, but Evil Dead 2 appears to be when the Evil Dead franchise became fully formed with its brazen dark comedic voice. Sam Raimi and crew took the no budget inventive mentality from the first film and only got even more creative and more ambitious with it. Bruce Campbell gives an iconic performance that should have made him a full blown star as he fully commits to every bit and gag without hesitation. A true classic and I think the best film of both Raimi and Campbells careers.

Bitto - Rating: B

This is just a fun movie to watch. I especially like the filming in the movie. I haven't really seen...hammy filmmaking, but I guess this would be it. There's just some wild shots, some for artistic purposes and some for comedic purposes, but it definitely leaves an impression. The most iconic and emblematic scene has to be the badass scene of Ash getting a chainsaw for a hand...and then saying "Groovy." Speaking of Ash, he's just a fun character to watch throughout. I really like the scenes where he's in the process of getting possessed. The other characters are fine too; though, I really did not expect the thieving locals to be longtime characters in the film. They're fine. The ending is fucking wild. It really feels like they made that the ending just so people can go "I watched a movie with a crazy ending" to their friends.

Seginustemple - Notoriously as much of a remake as a sequel, because it's pretty nonsensical if this is all following after the first. Although it is kind of funny that it would imply his type is just blondes named Linda, and he brings a second Linda back to the cabin. I like the original for what it is, but II outdoes it in so many ways it's easy to write it off as a false start. Bruce Campbell goes full live-action cartoon mode in the best way, the lore has fun time-travel shenanigans, deadites have more attitude, the evil point-of-view chases are thrilling. The early one running through the entire cabin is ridiculously cool. I have to be in a silly mood for the all the splatstick to land, but it's the some of the best there is.

Fortybelowsummer - Its a no-brainer to have this one on the list rather than the original low-budget-but still pretty-great Evil Dead. While the first movie is more pure horror, this one really ramps up the quirky silliness that the series became known for. Bruce Campbell is actually one of the best physical performers Ive ever seen. Hes super fun to watch battling his own severed hand or disembodied girlfriend head or various other deadites with his iconic chainsaw and boomstick. The decision to go the funnier route but retain the geysers of blood and strewn body parts is brilliant. Its hilarious and gross and I love it because theres nothing else like it.

Inviso - For the first third of the movie, I was questioning why the fuck this movie has such a great reputation, because I found it kinda boring. I think part of the problem for me is that, while there are funny moments, and wacky hijinks, and just general slapstick for that whole portion of the movie, none of it feels earned. It feels like a segment in a horror anthology movie that got stretched out just a little too long. Part of that is how detached from everything Bruce Campbell is, which doesnt work for me when hes operating as a one-man show. Its just thirty minutes of a guy doing zany slapstick shit without any real reason. Hes in a cabin in the woods because thats the setting, and bad things are happening because he listened to a recording, but that plot feels like it has NOTHING to do with him, or the girlfriend he kills VERY early into the movie.

With all that being said, youd expect the movie to be much lower, right? Well lets just say that once the other characters show up at about that 30-35 minute mark, the movie starts to settle into something resembling an actual MOVIE instead of just a prolonged sketch show segment. Annie arriving gives the audience and emotional investment in the plot, because she actually has a justification for why shes at the cabin, and she has her fears and worries and just generally feels like an actual CHARACTER. Not the most complex of one, but you really need someone like Annie, who is largely the straight woman of the film, to stand in contrast to other over-the-top characters (like Ash).

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 2:04:42 PM
#22
LightningStrikes posted...
Other: Near Dark.

Also, when you said you were the highest ranker Snake I thought about changing to Hellraiser but didnt, oops.

Hint was more effective than I expected!

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Topic[VGMC] Video Game Music Contest 18: Nominations
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 1:36:33 PM
#138
Support:

+ SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS | Completeness Under Incompleteness ("true prooF" Long ver.) | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhdmLj-zlvw
+ Blue Reflection: Second Light | A Hopeful Astraea | https://youtu.be/-0ArjCS80gQ

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TopicBoard 8's Top 20 NES Games: Voting Topic
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 1:09:16 PM
#7
+5 Sweet Home
+4 Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse
+4 Castlevania
+3 Friday the 13th
+3 Ninja Gaiden III: The Ancient Ship of Doom
+3 Batman: The Video Game
+2 Chiller
+2 Uninvited
+2 Life Force
+2 Ninja Gaiden
+1 Maniac Mansion
+1 Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos
+1 Super Mario Bros.
+1 Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
+1 Contra
+1 Spy Hunter
+1 Metal Gear
+1 Final Fantasy
+1 Metroid
+1 NARC

I might like to provide a few write-ups

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 3:45:53 AM
#13
Watch your tongue boy if you like this job!

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 1:28:05 AM
#11
Society's great! I'd probably struggle with writing it's inclusion blurb though.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 12:48:29 AM
#9
I didn't include Return of the Living Dead since it was done in a previous ranking!

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Topic[VGMC] Video Game Music Contest 18: Nominations
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 12:45:41 AM
#115
+ Paranoia Scape | Symptom | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkUH4uxucpk
+ Okage Shadow King | Baroque-Dowaruk | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W1kebOH_ik
+ Fobia: St. Dinfna Hotel | The Hall | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GceXStbCmxc
++ Silent Hill: The Short Message | My Heroine | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfVz-PbNAKk
+ Iron Lung | It Wakes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARVjaXkjdcM

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/18/24 12:37:37 AM
#7
Evillordexdeath posted...
https://tenor.com/view/latios-licks-pikachu-gif-6431863923421164287

Cute

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 11:45:33 PM
#500
Next topic here
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80749967

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TopicFill in the Blank 258: San ___
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 11:37:44 PM
#7
Andreas

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - Pt. 2: 80s Revenge
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 11:36:13 PM
#1
Remaining Films:
The Shining (1980)
Possession (1981)
The Thing (1982)
Videodrome (1983)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986)
The Fly (1986)
Evil Dead II (1987)
Predator (1987)
Beetlejuice (1988)

And their points:
51
64
91
122
142
142
147
159
162
176

Current Outlier
Fortybelowsummer - 174
Evilordexdeath - 148
Inviso - 146
Jcgamer107 - 141
Karo - 126
Snake - 117
Johnbobb - 114
Seginustemple - 111
Mythiot - 105
Bitto - 104
Plasmabeam - 99
Lightning - 93
Rockus - 82

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TopicWhat four games are on the Least Horny Video Games Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 9:52:04 PM
#64
FFDragon posted...
Oh come on, Mavis can get it

First of all LMAO

Second of all this is still a Mt. Rushmore so the games have to still be somewhat notable while still being as nothorny as possible so I think it still fits :P

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 9:50:34 PM
#486
Is this the longest time gone without someone losing their #1 yet?

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 9:46:11 PM
#485
  1. ???
  2. ???
  3. ???
  4. ???
  5. ???
  6. Hellraiser (1987)
  7. ???
  8. Phenomena (1985)
  9. Creepshow (1982)
  10. Gremlins (1984)
  11. An American Werewolf in London (1981)
  12. ???
  13. ???
  14. Childs Play (1988)
  15. ???
  16. Poltergeist (1982)
  17. Pet Sematary (1989)
  18. Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989)
  19. ???
  20. The Dead Zone (1983)
  21. Christine (1983)
  22. Re-Animator (1985)
  23. Fright Night (1985)
  24. Prince of Darkness (1987)
  25. Friday the 13th (1980)
  26. Basket Case (1982)
  27. Killer Klowns From Outer Space (1988)
  28. The Lost Boys (1987)
  29. Sleepaway Camp (1983)
  30. The Changeling (1980)

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TopicWhat four games are on the Least Horny Video Games Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 9:23:40 PM
#50
Dancedreamer posted...
Depression quest was developed by Anita Sarkeesian.

Very much wrong, it was Zoe Quinn

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 9:11:13 PM
#477
And thus, your top 10:
The Shining (1980)
Possession (1981)
The Thing (1982)
Videodrome (1983)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986)
The Fly (1986)
Evil Dead II (1987)
Predator (1987)
Beetlejuice (1988)

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 9:04:35 PM
#476
Plasmabeam - Im not as high on Hellraiser as most, but the creativity is a firestorm and the drama has a sharp, satisfying edge to it.

Karo - A hedonist looking for some experiences that are out of this world activates an ancient artifact and ends up chopped into bits and turned into an unknown creature who lives in the walls, only appearing when human blood is shed (and possibly at scuffed childrens' book festivals).

The mother is the real star here, her decent into madness as she lures into human sacrifices to feed to her grotesque boyfriend while her family remains oblivious.

However, the ending goes completely off the rails in the worst possible way. The Cenobites, who are supposed to be these mysterious and violently hedonistic higher beings, are reduced to lame foddderistic ghouls to chase the main characters around. Plus a random fucking bone dragon for no reason! Yay.

This was something that had such incredible potential that was squandered just for the sake of repetitive horror elements and shifting the focus of the horror from very scary humans to marginally scary monsters just for the visual jerkoff. Though sadly they apparently didnt destroy things enough to avoid making ten fucking sequels to the movie.

Rockus - So compelling that it almost makes you forget that the majority of the action takes place in a single location. Initially feels underwritten as it briskly introduces characters and moves through its setup, but Im more of a themes guy than a plot guy which makes Hellraiser my kind of jam. Like Possession this is another film that will likely unearth more understanding upon repeat viewings with its mix of body horror with sadomasochism and BDSM. An extremely wet and goopy horror film (in a good way!) with some terrific effects, and the cenobites are wonderfully designed and conceived horror icons.

Johnbobb - https://i.imgur.com/HWS3i7n.gif

Evilordexdeath - Honorary #16 - Pokmon Movie 05: Mizu no Miyako no Mamorigami Latias to Latios
I like the part where Latios tackles Pikachu but then makes up for it by licking him.

Actual #16 - Hellraiser The big takeaway I got out of this movie is that the God Hand from Berserk are clearly inspired by some of the cenobites. That comparison is not very favorable for Hellraiser in terms of narrative depth though. This was fine. I think my favorite part was when the lady was luring men into her attic to feed to her ghoul bf, there was an enjoyable sense of building tension in those parts, and a sense of inner conflict when the guy eventually told her to kill her husband. The cenobites are cool visually although in both this and Berserk I feel like the funny little glasses guy makes them slightly harder to take seriously. They definitely represent a much more hardcore section of the BDSM subculture than I can get into though.

Bitto - Rating: C

Frank really shows how evil humanity can be. He's just a scummy person all throughout and, unlike other entries on this list, I don't think the movie ever paints Frank in a sympathetic light at all. In that sense, he might be the most effective antagonist in this gauntlet. Unfortunately, no one else is really interesting. Julia is pretty bad. I get no sense why she's so into Frank. The one interesting thing she does is her line in the sand about Frank killing Larry, but that goes away by the end. The Cenobites have good scenes, but they...surprisingly don't do much until Frank is dead.

Lightning - We have such sights to show you!

Dark, mysterious and a little bit sexy, Hellraiser seeks to do what the subjects of the film do and combine all the pains and pleasures of the flesh (or in this case, gory horror with erotic thriller). It mostly succeeds at that, but stumbles a bit when it turns into effectively just a pure creature feature at the very end. The film also creates a genuinely unnerving atmosphere throughout, and it almost makes the whole film feel like something you shouldnt be watching but cant tear yourself away from.

This is probably the goriest film on the list, some of what happens here like the hooks going into somebodys skin is truly gnarly. There are some really unpleasant images too like the initial summoning. Yet the film also plays itself a little bit erotic. Here the film manifests the kind of dynamic its all about, that interplay between pleasure and pain. It also just provides a pretty intriguing set up, almost working as a sort of home invasion thriller rather than a supernatural horror film. The basic beats of the plot are actually relatively down to earth, a wifes ex-lover hides in a family home and attempts to replace the father. Only with a twist of interdimensional sex demons.

The Cenobites themselves are great creatures, its no wonder they became so iconic. I also didnt realise until watching that they are the clear inspiration for the God Hand from Berserk, one of the designs nearly feels lifted straight from here. Unfortunately the Cenobites also form the films big weakness of the last fifteen minutes, once they just become monsters chasing the lead through her house they lose their power. And frankly it felt like they went down a little too easily. The last act slightly spoils the film for me, I was really with it until then. Still, this is a unique horror movie that has a lot more on its mind than the typical schlockfest.

3/5

Inviso - I was not looking forward to this movie on the list, because even thought its iconic (specifically, Pinhead is iconic), Ive always heard less than pleasant things about the visuals. And in a way, thats truethe introduction of Pinhead and the Cenobites isgross. The monster designs in this movie certainly get the point across of testing the limits of my ability to hold my hurl. Plus, the movie both starts and ends with a pretty major gross-out kill scene (technically of the same guy both times, albeit different actors). But even then, its not the WORST thing Ive seen on this list thus far, and while I wouldnt want to watch it again, I was able to get through it.

The reason Im ranking this as low as I did is because of how fucking boring it is. The movie starts on a creepy scene, but then its just a lot of scenes of a British woman fantasizing about her dangerous brother-in-law until he gets resurrected from the Cenobites BDSM dimension, at which point she starts luring men to the house to blandly kill them with a hammer and feed them to Frank to help rejuvenate them. Meanwhile, her actual husband is likethe most milquetoast human being on the planet. He gets led around by Julia and doesnt realize that shes both cheating on him with his dead monster of a brother, and also murdering people. He doesnt realize this until he himself has been skinned and killed.

The problem is that the viewer KNOWS, perhaps due to the nature of Franks resurrectionor the opening scene, that theres more the movie is capable of then generic, bland serial killing. And it takes SO LONG to get that far, until skinless Frank tries to hit on his niece and she steals the demonic puzzle box. Kirsty solves the puzzle box and this is around the 80% mark, Id wager. This summons the Cenobites finally and they try to drag Kirsty to hell, but she sells out her uncle, who isnt supposed to have escaped from their torture. This leads to them being off-screen for another scene as theres more boring stuff with Kirsty and Julia/Frank (while Frank is wearing Larrys skin to fake being Kirstys dad)and its all just dull, with a frosting layer of gross when the Cenobites show up to kill Frank once and for all.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 9:04:21 PM
#475
11. Hellraiser (1987 / 180 points)
Directed / Screenplay by: Clive Barker
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Why Its Significant - Hellraiser seemed to be an instant classic, storming cinema with a unique blend of sadomasochistic imagery, philosophical explorations of desire and pain, and the on-screen introduction of the iconic Pinhead character. Clive Barker had already been a prominent horror writer for a few years before adapting his own novella, The Hellbound Heart, into this memorable film. I think easily one of the most interesting influences this film has is bringing BDSM culture to a more mainstream attention, as Barker frequented the scene and was openly gay and fingerprints of that are all over the novella and film. Hellraisers horror influence can be seen in everything from media franchises like Star Trek to individual films like Cube or Dark City. It could even be considered a sort of precursor to the so-called torture porn genre. Hellraiser was followed by a whopping 9 sequels, a reboot, comics, famous metal song by Ozzy Osbourne, Zakk Wylde & Motorhead, references in many forms of media, and tons of canceled projects.

The Rankers
Snake - 6
Jcgamer107 - 7
Fortybelowsummer - 8
Seginustemple - 9
Plasmabeam - 10
Karo - 11
Rockus - 11
Johnbobb - 13
Evilordexdeath - 16
Bitto - 18
Lightning - 18
Mythiot - 26
Inviso - 27

Snake - Hellraiser is a descent into a depraved and darkly beautiful underworld. The story, while deceptively simple, is layered with themes of obsession, forbidden desires, and the inescapable consequences of transgression. Frank Cotton, a man consumed by a relentless hedonism, unleashes a terror beyond comprehension with a mysterious puzzle box. The box itself is a marvel of design, a perverse work of art that hints at the grotesqueries that lie within.

Clare Higgins embodies Julia's simmering discontent. Julia is a woman trapped in a loveless marriage, yearning for a past passion that consumes her. Higgins portrays this frustration with a quiet intensity. Her longing glances and repressed desires hint at a darkness bubbling beneath the surface. When Julia succumbs to temptation and becomes entangled with the forces unleashed by the box, Higgins masterfully navigates the character's descent. She transforms from a yearning wife into a desperate and ruthless individual, driven by an insatiable hunger for pleasure and power.

Ashley Laurence, on the other hand, represents innocence thrust into a horrifying situation. Kirsty is a teenager caught in the crossfire of her parents' troubled marriage and Frank's sadomasochistic obsessions. Laurence portrays Kirsty's initial naivet with a relatable charm. However, when faced with the horrors unleashed by the puzzle box, Laurence delivers a powerful performance of resilience and courage. Kirsty evolves from a terrified victim to a resourceful heroine, determined to fight back against the Cenobites and protect herself and her family.

The dynamic between Higgins and Laurence is a key element of the film's narrative. Julia becomes a twisted maternal figure, manipulating Kirsty while simultaneously yearning for a connection. Laurence holds her own against Higgins' seasoned performance, creating a believable and emotionally charged conflict. Their contrasting portrayals of women caught in the nightmare highlight the film's exploration of desire, consequence, and the fight for survival.

The best part of Hellraiser though lies in its visual aesthetic. Barker, with a background in comics and illustration along with his writing, brings his nightmarish visions to life with stunning practicality. The Cenobites, the demonic engineers of suffering, are unlike any other monsters in horror. Led by the unforgettable Pinhead, with their stitched flesh and piercing intelligence, they are the embodiment of a horrific yet strangely alluring sadomasochistic order. Their world, glimpsed in terrifying flashes, is a labyrinth of industrial machinery and glistening viscera, a place where screams become symphonies and flesh is putty in their cruel hands. Again, like with Tetsuo, industrial horror is M Y A E S T H E T I C and its even better demonstrated and utilized here. The transformations, the eviscerations, they all feel real, uncomfortably real, because they were achieved with a tactile ingenuity that grounds the film's outlandish concepts.

Its still one of the boldest horror debuts of all time to me, endlessly quotable, and filled with fantastically memorable characters and set-pieces. A truly unique marvel of the genre I return to with painful glee every time.

Jcgamer107 - 7/10

Fortybelowsummer - I love Pinhead so much that Ill go ahead and pop Hellraiser into my top 10, even though the entirety of the movie itself isnt the greatest. Its pretty much Julia picking up dudes the whole time and bringing them back to sacrifice to Frank, which is cool, but it does get a little old. Pinhead himself is only in the movie for like 9 minutes, but he still has a huge presence (I know, its an androgynous being but Ill just use he for convenience). Its actually better that he remains somewhat mysterious because in later movies, when he starts appearing and talking more, he loses a bit of his mystique in my opinion. Hes interesting because he isnt built like other horror villains. He's intelligent and articulate but also ethical (I guess?) in that he doesnt just mindlessly kill. For me, as a youngster, when I would peruse the horror section of the video rental store but wasnt allowed to rent them yet, Hellraiser always felt the most forbidden. The leather clad Hell Priest gazing at you holding the ominous lament configuration, then hearing about or catching glimpses of the the sadomasochism, the gruesome vicious violence. It feels like Hellraiser almost has an aura about it even now after seeing all of them (except the new one but Im interested in the female portrayal) and now having finished writing this I feel comfortable with a top 10 placement, hell, I might even bump it up.

Seginustemple - Another childhood favorite, this one I probably saw a little *too* early. The Cenobites have some of the coolest mythology in horror, a party of interdimensional BDSM bodymodders - and though the sequels dig into these characters' backstories more I prefer the unknowability invoked in their brief appearance here. Pinhead isn't even named in this one, he's Lead Cenobite. Where the unknowability doesn't work so well is with the puzzlebox logic, I think the Lament Configuration is kind of a cop-out safeword/MacGuffin that can do whatever the plot needs at any given moment, but the name sure does sound cool. The makeup/sfx work is fantastic, especially for Frank's intial reconstitution scene where he coalesces together. I forgot that there's some cheeky humor to his character, like there's a point where he's still skinless but puts on a dress shirt & tie, and casually smokes a cigarette. And I realllly forgot that he ends up taking his brother's face, completing the whole kinky affair with a layer of incestuous roleplay. Poor Garak. I get his character more now too, he's the inverse of his extremist brother: squeamish, faints at the sight of his own blood, strictly a missionary guy. But Ashley Laurence is the only one I really root for, I love how pissed off she gets at the mind-melting shit that's happening around her. No time for disbelief or despair, she just gets angry and starts barking at demons. The exasperation is relatable.

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TopicWhat four games are on the Least Horny Video Games Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 8:56:32 PM
#33
Flowers are romantic as hell what are people on here

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TopicWhat four games are on the Least Horny Video Games Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 8:22:17 PM
#8
Elmo's Letter Adventure
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
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TopicWhat's the most technically impressive Xbox game? (Day 13) + PS2 final
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 7:54:31 PM
#3
Doom 3 but I do like the Splinter Cell pick

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 7:48:08 PM
#473
All great points, I agree with a lot of that but at the same time I never personally put my stock in whether a film is "art" or not. I mainly rank films, especially horror, on visceral impact. Like Tetsuo. It's a chaotic mess, but it punches you right in the gut with its visuals.

Ambiguity can definitely be powerful too. It forces you to engage with the film on a deeper level. That's something I value a lot. Not just being a passive observer.

But ultimately, a good story is a good story. Art isn't about categories or labels for me. It's just about finding something that resonates with me.

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Ellie vs. Sazh / Cave Johnson vs. Emet-Selch
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 7:23:33 PM
#8
also not me misspelling Labrys on every poll option lmao

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Ellie vs. Sazh / Cave Johnson vs. Emet-Selch
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 7:19:44 PM
#2
Ellie
Cave

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Ellie vs. Sazh / Cave Johnson vs. Emet-Selch
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 7:19:24 PM
#1
Welcome to the best video game character of the 2010s, a continuation of an ongoing contest series dedicated to finding who is the best video game character introduced in each decade. The 2010s saw the amazing tail-end of the 7th generation & the rise of the 8th generation with incredible games and amazing characters from said games.

Bracket - https://challonge.com/1e9oonm5
Side Bracket - https://challonge.com/ag5nvgd1

Previous Results
Juliet / Senua - (13 / 5)
Monika / Flowey - (14 / 12)

Ellie (The Last of Us)
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Sazh Katzroy (Final Fantasy XIII)
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Cave Johnson (Portal 2)
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vs.

Emet-Selch (Final Fantasy XIV)
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Easy Vote
Ellie / Sazh
Cave / Emet

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Juliet Starling vs Senua / Monika vs Flowey
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 5:44:24 PM
#33
jcgamer107 posted...
Flowey (Undertale)

You already voted!

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Juliet Starling vs Senua / Monika vs Flowey
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 5:07:56 PM
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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 3:16:34 PM
#465
Small hint for the next one - I'm the highest ranker for it!

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
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04/17/24 2:57:27 PM
#462
Espeon posted...
Snake, you have JB listed at 11 for both Reanimator and Pet Sematary.

Thanks, just a typing error!

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Juliet Starling vs Senua / Monika vs Flowey
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04/17/24 2:38:53 PM
#30
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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 2:30:14 PM
#458
LinkMarioSamus posted...
This also reminds me, how was Manhunter not chosen? It's heck of a lot more of a horror flick than Beetlejuice! Could have also been chosen over something like The Dead Zone or Predator.

I would never budge on Predator in a million years.

Manhunter has no influence in the horror genre, not that much anyway. Manhunter is WAY more influential in the realm of forensic investigation fiction. Michael Mann as well is more associated with action / heist / gangster movies than anything else. The Dead Zone meanwhile is a Stephen King / Cronenberg collaboration that won the Saturn Award for best horror film when it was released. Beetlejuice is directed by Tim Burton with huge ties to the Gothic scene and culture and tons of horror work under his belt.

Everyone is going to choose different films for a list like this and I respect that! But I stand by my choices.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 2:21:44 PM
#456
Outler
Fortybelowsummer - 171
Evilordexdeath - 143
Jcgamer107 - 137
Inviso - 130
Karo - 126
Johnbobb - 112
Snake - 112
Seginustemple - 109
Plasmabeam - 98
Bitto - 97
Mythiot - 90
Lightning - 86
Rockus - 82

Exdeath gets life and a big boost here

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 2:11:21 PM
#453
Rockus - A pretty clever modern Re-Imagining of Frankenstein as two med students try to conquer death by developing a serum to bring the dead back to life. Im a big Star Trek fan so Ive always really liked Jeffrey Combs but this has to be the defining performance of his career. His obsessive and detached turn as Herbert West is the backbone of this movie, a horror comedy that balances its humor while still retaining what makes it a great horror film as well. In the last act it goes off the rails in the best way imaginable, a pretty good movie elevated with a terrific finale and a brilliant performance from Combs.

Lightning - You killed him! / No, I did not. I gave him life.

Author HP Lovecraft these days is mostly known for his cosmic horror work (and all the racism) that became so influential on the genre. However, aside from that, he also wrote some incredibly pulpy, more down to earth horror stories including Re-animator, which is secretly one of the most influential zombie works of fiction out there. It is interesting that despite not being as well known or as often regarded as his best work, Re-animator is probably the best HP Lovecraft adaptation to date.

On reflection I suspect that part of the reason that this film is so much better than other attempts at HP Lovecrafts other work is its simplicity. There is not as much to mess up in this story, and it is immensely filmable whereas cosmic horror is much harder to get right (and it has been said that while there have been some very good cosmic horror films like The Endless, there has not yet been the big defining cosmic horror film), this however is a very straightforward zombie plot executed with an appropriate amount of gore and guts. It is not doing a whole lot in terms of depth, but it keeps you with it and executes every aspect well.

The effects are really strong here, yet dont push it too much into being just unpleasant. The cat is likely the most disturbing it gets. However in terms of unpleasantness the whole sexual assault and nudity aspect felt gratuitous. Despite that we get a good turn from Barbara Crampton with what she had, alongside memorable performances from Jeffrey Combs and Bruce Abbott. There is some good comedy too, often involving the doctor carrying his own head. A film that is relatively light on content but not on value.

3/5

Johnbobb - I've been a little torn on how to rank this one. It's super campy and feels kind of exploitative, but it's still a pretty iconic and original take on the idea of the living dead in horror. Herbert was surprisingly effective as the lab student turned crazed scientist causing his own destruction, and there were a lot of small decisions made her that really made it stand out compared to some of the other dumber camp movies from the period. Definitely takes a hit for the weird, rapey severed head scene though.

Plasmabeam - Theres a cool concept here, but the execution was too B-movie to do it justice.

Snake - One of Re-Animator's biggest strengths is its ability to seamlessly blend outrageous gore with laugh-out-loud moments. The special effects are amazing, the splatter is plentiful, the dismemberment delightfully cheesy, and the reanimated body parts move with an uncanny twitch that's both unsettling and comical. Jeffrey Combs' performance as Herbert West is nothing short of iconic. He portrays the character with a manic energy and unwavering conviction that is both terrifying and strangely endearing. West is utterly consumed by his research, willing to break every ethical code in the pursuit of his goal. Not a fan of the sexual content here, which ventures into deeply bizarre, unsettling territory that is gross as fucking hell and not funny at all.

Evilordexdeath - After so many films involving that hack Stephen King, it's nice to shake things up with an adaptation of noted racist H.P. Lovecraft's work. This is probably the least faithful adaptation of any movie on this list - I mean it even includes a heterosexual romance and a sex scene! Lovecraft was more terrified of those things than any of the horrors he wrote about and the only emotional connections between characters in his work were a sort of respectful camaraderie between male fellows in some kind of scientific or scholarly field. So of course the love interest is an entirely new character to the film, and by extension the minor subplot about trying not to piss off her dad who is also one of the teachers at the main character's school. I'm not about to say that Lovecraft's writing is sacrosanct, and in fact Herbert West: Reanimator has shocking racism and overlong silly descriptions even for him, but I do think this movie dumbs down the weird tale in a way that's detrimental. In the original, Herbert West is the most horrific figure, a mad scientist who gradually becomes a twisted murderer - in this he's a sort of plucky antihero whose worse qualities are overshadowed by a corrupt teacher who gets reanimated as a separate head and body and tries to sexually assault the love interest girl. While the original story does eventually get to the idea of an independent head and body that can command other re-animated corpses, there is ambiguity as to whether this really takes place or if the narrator is insane and hallucinated it - while himself murdering Herbert West. It also loses a few little details that made the text feel more scientific like West's formula needing to be modified for different species and individuals or embalming fluid preventing it from working. I can see the movie being funny to some people - I mean the big bad doctor man eventually strangles Herbert West with his tentacle-like spinal column - but for me it wasn't, it was just loud and dumb where the original story's best moments were a sense of paranoia and certain startling revelations that take place in the narrator's head.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 2:11:08 PM
#452
12. Re-Animator (1985 / 181 points)
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Why Its Significant - While perhaps not the biggest box office success story ever, Re-Animators outrageous gore, gruesome reanimation sequences, witty dialogue, and slapstick humor found a devoted following on home video and became a quick cult horror hit. Its hard to believe with how prevalent Lovecraft adaptations have become, but Re-Animator is not only one of the first full-length adaptations of a Lovecraft story, but also one of the rare few that isnt obviously low-budget or completely obscure. Re-Animator also became an unlikely franchise with two sequels, thematic successor in From Beyond (another Lovecraft adaptation with the main creative team from Re-Animator), Italian remake, comic books, & musical.

The Rankers
Fortybelowsummer - 3
Seginustemple - 7
Inviso - 8
Jcgamer107 - 8
Bitto - 9
Karo - 9
Mythiot - 12
Rockus - 16
Lightning - 17
Johnbobb - 21
Plasmabeam - 22
Snake - 23
Evilordexdeath - 26

Fortybelowsummer - Re-Animator is a movie that perfectly caters to my tastes, with copious amounts of gore, dark humor, and a delightful B movie presentation that is hugely entertaining all the way through. It doesnt waste any time introducing us to Herbert West and what hes all about with a gnarly eye-popping opening followed by one of the coolest opening credits ever. Its a wild ride from there, with a disembodied head ordering around its former body, a flying zombie cat thats so blatantly a puppet (the funniest moment in all of our movies), lots of naked zombies, and a number of creative kills. Its all bolstered by some good to great performances from established theater actors, including everyones favorite scream queen Barbara Crampton (maybe not everyone, but anyone with good taste). Im delighted to get Re-Animator in my top 3 because it is top freakin notch.

Seginustemple - Jeffrey Combs is a pure delight as the insufferable know-it-all Dr. West, giving the face of scientific hubris a shit-eating grin. And Bruce Abbott's more sympathetic Dr. Cain doesn't get enough credit as the foil, his kindness grounds the movie emotionally so it's not totally suffocated by snark and cynicism. West has the dominant personality but the narrative is really about Cain's good intentions helping him pave the road, and I think that's what makes it land with real tragedy. The sunk cost rationale to their madness is both unnervingly plausible (I wouldn't put it past an Elon) and hilariously over-the-top. The zombie acting is some of my favorite in the genre, feral and jerky, it really gives the action a berserk intensity. Once the professor is beheaded and revived the craziness gets cranked, everything to do with him is great. The fellatio gross-out scene, the physical comedy of the body/head acting duo, the dad zombie popping the head and flinging it at the wall like a deflated dodgeball, the overdosed body's intestines constricting Dr. West like a snake, man it's such a delicious finale. A good doctor knows when to quit!

Inviso - This movie is absolutely gross, with a lot of gore effects given that the subject matter is a chemical formula designed to reanimate deceased lifeforms and bring them back to life with a certain degree of cognizant thought. I think if the movie had tried to play it straight and gone the route of a very serious, Frankenstein-style plot, it wouldnt have been as enjoyable. But with the more comedic tone, you can go over-the-top with some of the films sequences, and still find them enjoyable to watch. West himself is the kind of insane, camp character that elevates a movie just by chewing the scenery with his insanity. But beyond him, you have this hilarious exploration of a very morbid storyline.

But yeah, you have the perfect heroic everyman in Dan Cain; hes introduced as this guy who desperately wants to save lives, even when its clear hes fighting for a lost cause. And he gets wrapped up with West because he needs a roommate, and slowly he gets wrapped into Wests orbit because WEST wants to prevent death as well. Its a great way to justify why a straight-laced guy like Cain would EVER want to get involved with a psycho like West, especially after West has some straight-up cat murder on his resum. But yeah, this ONE relationship completely tanks Dans life and his efforts to get Wests work recognized wind up setting in motion the rest of the film.

I love the doofus deans death scene as well, because the idea of reanimations being psychotic and overpowered is lovely. We get a whole scene of a naked dead guy straight-up murdering the dean, and then the DEAN gets reanimated and he turns into a mindless zombie himself. But this all leads to an investigation into why the dean is acting so crazy, and Professor Hill gets involved to try and steal Wests workonly to get murdered for his arrogance. But then HE turns into the villain because HE reanimates with some actual brainpower. And HE has goals: namely getting everything he wants by stealing Wests formula and trying to screw Meg as a severed head. Its all fucked up, but it MAKES SENSE in the context of what it is.

My ONLY problem is thatI GET the ending. I get the ending of having Dan Cain succumb to the dark side and personally use Wests formula to resurrect Meg. But JUST before that, we have a callback to Dans first scene where hes trying to CPR and defibrillate a dead patient, and then he gets a second chance to rescue Meg. I almost wish hed gotten that hero moment to kind of show that he was still a good guy, even if West was a lunatic. But I get the ending is meant to be more in line with the tone of the rest of the film. I just wish I could see a second cut with a more heroic tone.

Jcgamer107 - 7/10

Bitto - Rating: B-

If I had to show someone one movie to explain the appeal of shlocky American horror movies, it would be this one. It's really got it all and it does it well. Cornel West is such a fun character to watch. He really carries the movie for a while, because man, everyone else is bad. Then Dr. Hill gets re-animated and he also does a great job. There's obviously a lot of fun with having a guy that's both a head and a headless body. It also leads to some insane scenes like a decapitated head performing oral on a woman, which is just...wow, they really had an imagination, huh. Meg and Dan really bring the movie down, unfortunately, especially as they continue to gain a really prominent role in the movie. Meg, especially, because she's kinda the connecting force between all the characters in the movie and she's just...nothing.

Also, I really like the main theme song of this movie.

Karo - A mad doctor trying to cure death discovers way to move some dead bones, the secret of which involves injecting corpses with glowing green ooze straight out of the ninja turtles. Radical, dude.

Thus begins a journey featuring copious amounts medical malpractice and corpse desecration across the board which makes me wonder about the vetting process for employment at this hospital insomuch as they seem to keep hiring obsessive psychopaths with a god complex.

Unfortunately, the movie repeatedly violates not only basic logic, but also the established rules of its own world. One minute you're killing a reanimation instantly by stabbing it through the heart, next you have one surviving for hours being nothing but a fucking head. You might need to re-animate some consistency here.

It is a movie that is fun, if not really great, but honestly I prefer the song.

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TopicFill in the Blank 257: ___ Music
Snake5555555555
04/17/24 2:00:36 PM
#50
jcgamer107 posted...
Dance

Mountain Goats?!

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TopicBest Cock in Gaming (interest gauge topic)
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04/17/24 1:10:21 PM
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TopicKill My Fandom Subsidiary
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04/17/24 4:42:02 AM
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TopicFill in the Blank 257: ___ Music
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04/16/24 11:56:59 PM
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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
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04/16/24 9:55:32 PM
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Snake - Just a film with so much boundless creativity and gag-a-minute jokes. Sure none of the Mogwais rules make any god-forsaken sense, but its hard to really care when this much carnage is on the screen at any given minute. I like the lightheartedness of the first-half with lots of small-town humor and family comedy taking center stage, with the horror kicking in slowly and subtly as it goes in, the kitchen massacre being of course the best centerpiece where the film really shifts focus. I mainly just get a kick at how much personality each gremlin is given, the bar scene being a HUGE stand-out for the films brand of visual comedy. It doesnt matter that maybe the film doesnt have that much thematic depth - sometimes horror just needs to be fun and wacky like this!

Karo - A bunch of people who have never seen the trouble with tribbles get a hold of a strange fluffy creature that can reproduce at an astounding rate and they don't find this a cause for concern.

Once the whole town is infested with Furbys, it is unfortunately discovered that giving them a midnight snack turns them into orcs, the whole transformation into which is regarded with a laughable lack of alarm by everyone involved. Giant slimy pupae draped all over the room? No biggie!

It is campy and silly in kind of a good way, though maybe goes a bit overboard in places. Like once they started turning into Minions I kind of checked out of the movie. If you get this ridiculous it makes it hard to regard the gremlins as the fearsome adversaries you are trying to portray them as.

I guess it is decent enough at being what it was trying to be (a kids horror movie), though it will never reach any levels of greatness in either of those genres.

Rockus - Its difficult to look at Gremlins and separate it from my childhood because I grew up seeing this movie repeatedly. Though Joe Dante and crew would really show how self-aware they were with the sequel this first Gremlins is still silly and playful, with almost a cartoon sense of logic run amuck. Both Gremlins movies are such a blast that its a relief that they havent been able to resurrect the brand for a new film yet because I dont think it would work out of its era or with a different director behind the production. Some exceptional creature designs and animatronics help make the movie all the more memorable.

Seginustemple - Although it's trying to make some point about technological excess, it's such an entertaining and silly romp that it hardly needs analysis. The little bastards are delightful. They're just a rowdy dive bar crowd that loves singing along to Snow White, can't hate that. The rocket stairlift prank is beautiful, the way the old lady hits the portrait on the way up so it looks like the subject tilts his head at her is a perfect touch. It's not the only stairlift kill on the list but it's the best one. The backstory the movie gives to Phoebe Cates is crazy - she found her dead dad in the chimney dressed up as Santa and that's how she found out Santa isn't real. It's such a kick in the nuts, I kept thinking they would go one further and have the real Santa show up to defeat the Gremlins at the end.

Plasmabeam - Charming, fun, and solid overall. Does a great job walking the line between creepy and endearing.

Fortybelowsummer - Theres something I have to get off my chest in regard to Gremlins. A lot of the movie focuses on the dad and his shitty inventions. Wouldnt it have been fitting for him to make up for his monumentally poor decision in purchasing Gizmo by inventing something that defeats the gremlins? Turns out the only purpose of the gadgets is comic relief and when all hell breaks loose hes at a convention on Christmas Eve for some reason. At least it makes sense for Gizmo to vanquish Stripe, though, and it gives him a chance to zoom around in a little car. Anyway, now that Ive wasted most of my self-imposed word count on that pointless minutia, Gremlins is mostly fantastic. Any comprehensive list of pop culture things from the 80s is going to include a Gremlin/Mogwai. The little guys are iconic in both forms and its always a great choice to watch during the holidays. I like a good festive, snowy small-town vibe and I like it even more when its being absolutely ravaged by horrible little monsters. I think I might be an outlier in having this one so low, but I just dont hold as much nostalgia for Gremlins as a lot of my 80s/90s peers.

Jcgamer107 - 4/10

Evilordexdeath - I saw this one a few times as a kid. My dad used to fast forward through one particular scene and tell my siblings and I it was too scary - it was actually because one of the characters says that Santa isn't real. My memories of it were so vague that I definitely had to rewatch, but I was really not looking forward to it without particularly knowing why. Maybe it was because it has that "Produced by Steven Spielberg" stink about it. Spielberg is a very skilled director but the types of themes and aesthetics his films are built around seem so saccharine and dull to me that even the movies he directs are misses with me more often than hits. A lot of films produced by him seem to have those same failings but without the technical proficiency. Sure enough I found this pretty damn tedious to watch. Like 60% of this movie is gremlin shenanigans that I found entirely tiresome (except for the mom vs. gremlin kitchen battle scene which was sick.) From the moment the gremlins hatch until like the last 5 minutes is just constant "peril" of dealing with the little bastards for 50 minutes on end with the only break for characterization being that frankly dumb backstory about why the one girl hates Christmas and it got so repetitive and exhausting that I tapped out of the film completely. Also, I'm sorry, but Gizmo just isn't very cute. This kind of 70s-80s American puppetry that you see in E.T. and a lot of the aliens from Star Wars is good for making things that look a little weird or creepy, but not very good for making things that look cute. I guess I admire the bold attempt to use it to make a cute character, but the end result is a freaky, strangely moist little weirdo.

Johnbobb - I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this. It's a horror comedy, I think, only the Gremlins are too goofy to be scary, and they're not particularly funny either. What does that leave me with but a Jim Henson project, but instead of telling jokes, the muppets just screech violently and incoherently for 2 hours. Also, the furry gremlins and creepier than the lizardy ones.

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TopicBoard 8 Watches and Ranks 80s Horror - The Rankings
Snake5555555555
04/16/24 9:55:20 PM
#431
13. Gremlins (1984 / 184 points)
Directed by: Joe Dante / Written by: Chris Columbus
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Why Its Significant - A Christmas classic (released when else but in June), Gremlins influence is easy to see and pretty self-explanatory. Any film with little creatures causing havoc somewhere, sometime? Its Gremlins. Its that simple. The film relies heavily on puppetry and animatronics, creating a tangible threat. Gremlins feel real, their movements grotesque and unpredictable making their on-screen debut instantly iconic & memorable. The Christmas theming also contributes to this factor, making it such an easy film to throw on and watch every year for those like me who just have to have a bit of horror in their Christmas! The film received a sequel, amusement park rides, video game appearances, and dozens of cameo appearances over the years, turning the Gremlins and particularly Gizmo and Stripe into minor horror icons & mascots for WB. Gremlins also holds notability for being one of the primary films that led to the creation of the PG-13 rating.

The Rankers
Inviso - 2
Lightning - 6
Mythiot - 8
Bitto - 10
Snake - 10
Karo - 13
Rockus - 13
Seginustemple - 13
Plasmabeam - 15
Fortybelowsummer - 18
Jcgamer107 - 23
Evilordexdeath - 25
Johnbobb - 28

Inviso - As I write this, I had trouble deciding to rank Gremlins as high as I have, because I was worried whether it truly deserves the placement. But screw it, this is my ranking, and I ranked Peewees Big Adventure at the top of the road comedies list, so what of it? I like goofy, funny, cutesie shit. And this is a GREAT PG horror movie, because a lot of the time, PG, or even PG-13 doesnt translate to horror all that well; theyre too restrained by trying to play it safe. The Gremlins themselves are JUST monstrous enough to be scary, but not SO monstrous to be a complete turnoff to younger audiences. It rides the line, and I like how this movie works as kind of an introduction to horror for kids.

But yeah, this is just well done across the board. The movies has a decent start, with all of these town scenes and the introduction of numerous characters and how they deal with life in the town, and you get Mrs. Deagle being the WORST. But what I really like is how the Gremlins themselves are hyped up by Murray Fudderman as having sabotaged machines during the war, and then we go to Billys house and his car is a piece of shit, and his dads inventions are all terrible across the board. It feels like hes living in a world plagued by gremlins (small g) already. So then, when the Gremlins show up and start wreaking havoc, it showcases how truly terrible things can get.

But theres just so much to talk about with this film. For me, the Gremlin theme is one of the most iconic horror movie themes of all time. Its right up there with Halloween, because its extremely catchy, but it also manages to convey the whole chaotic havoc element of the Gremlins with that high-pitched, screechy singing. When it kicks in as the Gremlins start attacking the Fuddermans with Murrays snowplow, thats a brilliant score to set off the events of the chaos rampage scene of the film.

Also, I want to give a shoutout to Billys mom, because in short order, she manages to take out three out of the five Gremlins that invade her home, all in different and creative ways (in a blender bowl, via straight-up stabbing one, and via microwave). She comes across as a total badass throughout that entire scene, and its a shame she gets taken down on the fourth Gremlin in the Christmas tree, because I think she couldve held her own and really allowed Stripe to prove why hes the badass leader of the bunch.

The general transformation is great too, turning these cute little Mogwi into demonic reptile monsters, complete with gross-looking alien eggs (that hatch into monsters creatures). Seriously, the first kill of the movie, you see that hatched egg and its so disgusting alongside the biology film reel of a beating heart, and then the science teacher just gets straight-up murdered off-screen. Poor guy just wanted to run a simple blood test, and he winds up one of the only two confirmed human kills in the entire movie (alongside the well-deserved death of Mrs. Deagle).

Theres also the goofiness of Phoebe Cates tending bar even as the Gremlins are going on a rampage, the bar scene itself has a bunch of little gags and sound effects (plus a hilarious poker scene where one of the Gremlins is wearing Mrs. Deagles wig), and then you also get the out-of-nowhere monologue from Phoebe Cates about her dad dying on Christmas. Its so weird, but its so wacky and fun (well, aside from the revelation about the dad) that it really manages to inject just that little bit extra character into the film. Oh! And Mike from Breaking Bad is in this movie as a chickenshit cop. Guess he got over that cowardice in order to work for Gustavo Fring. Yeah, great movie all around.

Lightning - And thats how I found out there was no Santa Claus.

Gremlins represents an absolute Christmas classic that shows that Christmas movies dont need to slot into a certain genre yet can still have plenty of heart. This is a really over the top horror comedy with a slightly mean sensibility to it that is loads of fun and has that real tender sentimentality to it also that you want in a holiday movie. Although it is very well directed by Joe Dante, Spielbergs influence is all over this.

Frankly this movie is just incredibly entertaining, possibly the most fun to watch of any on the list. I also do appreciate it that its successfully pitching horror to a younger audience, its not too much but has some pretty good scary sequences like the kitchen scene. It also really gets you on the side of the characters, the leads are so likeable here, and that Santa Claus monologue will long live in my memory. It also does a good job of satirising the consumeristic and neoliberal nature of the 1980s, the social commentary is surprisingly strong here. Unfortunately it also shows its 80s nature in the opening scene which leans very hard on Chinese stereotypes and is probably the biggest flaw of the film.

Of course it would be remiss of me to not mention the Mogwai (and the Gremlins) themselves. The whole film hinges on them and they really work. The designs are great, and the puppets are even better. The transformations look suitably spooky, and I like the way each is subtly characterised through variations in their look. Gizmo of course is one of the most adorable characters ever and you really root for him throughout. Overall, this is a film that is just lovable for almost its entire runtime.

4/5

Bitto - Rating: B-

Really stretching the definition of horror here...but it's fine. This is a great movie. The mogwai are obviously fun to watch, kinda being like evil Muppets once they transformed. Them wrecking havoc in the town could be seen as horrifying, but the characters they're attacking are usually caricatures. The main family are all incredibly likable. We spend the most time with Billy, but I love the dad and the mom. The dad being a goodhearted, but bad inventor and the mom continuing to use the inventions despite clearly not finding them useful is just really fun characterization. The mom gets the best scene when it probably becomes the most like a horror movie when the mogwai just transformed. It's wild seeing how much the tone changes for just those few scenes.

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Juliet Starling vs Senua / Monika vs Flowey
Snake5555555555
04/16/24 8:27:51 PM
#10
Yeah I really liked how that worked out!

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TopicWhat four Americans are on the Non-Political American Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Snake5555555555
04/16/24 7:44:42 PM
#49
Shit I guess it does

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TopicWhat four Americans are on the Non-Political American Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Snake5555555555
04/16/24 7:37:44 PM
#47
I guess both Wright brothers can take up both of the last slots

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TopicWhat four Americans are on the Non-Political American Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
Snake5555555555
04/16/24 7:37:12 PM
#46
Fred Rogers
Bob Ross
Wright brothers

I can't think of a fourth shit

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Juliet Starling vs Senua / Monika vs Flowey
Snake5555555555
04/16/24 7:18:41 PM
#2
Juliet
Just Monika

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TopicVideo Game Character of the 2010s - Juliet Starling vs Senua / Monika vs Flowey
Snake5555555555
04/16/24 7:17:52 PM
#1
Welcome to the best video game character of the 2010s, a continuation of an ongoing contest series dedicated to finding who is the best video game character introduced in each decade. The 2010s saw the amazing tail-end of the 7th generation & the rise of the 8th generation with incredible games and amazing characters from said games.

Bracket - https://challonge.com/1e9oonm5
Side Bracket - https://challonge.com/ag5nvgd1

Previous Results
Cuphead / Hat - (14 / 13)
Velvet / Max - (13 / 9)

Juliet Starling (Lollipop Chainsaw)
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vs.

Senua (Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice)
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Monika (Doki Doki Literature Club)
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vs.

Flowey (Undertale)
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Easy Vote
Juliet / Senua
Monika / Flowey

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