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I got excited that they finally patched Outer Worlds and was going to go back to playing that, but then Stardew Valley got a new update and I decided to play that instead.

I've got a stack with games like God of War and Spider-Man in it. So instead I'm managing a virtual farm.
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Literally everyone on Earth is the cousin of everyone else. Ain't no thang.
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Sarcasthma posted...

I'm embarrassed for you.

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FrozenBananas posted...

imagine thinking any film series spanning 9 films could stay consistently great.

Imagine being so beaten down by life that you actually consider this a valid argument.
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HornedLion posted...

Theyre living beings.

Not really much of an argument, considering most of the things I fuck with on a regular basis are also living beings.
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I found it extremely disappointing. It sells itself on Baldur's Gate nostalgia, but the story isn't as good, the setting isn't as interesting, the characters aren't all that likeable or developed, and the narrative design is extremely flawed.

Ironically, if they'd actually implemented some of the things that newer games innovated that were great it might have transcended itself, but as is, it's basically dragged down by nostalgia rather than supported by it.

I hear Deadfire is better, but I've never played it.
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I could, though I wouldn't. In 40+ years of life, I've eaten at Taco Bell precisely once.

But Taco Bell being "everywhere" doesn't really mean much, because...

JixHedgehog posted...

Same can be said for any fast food joint really

This.



I'd knife a guy for 3am White Castle, though. Thankfully, there's one about 15 minutes away from me, and it's open 24/7.
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Mead posted...

arent you late for that technically correct but obnoxiously pedantic point convention?

Sorry, I was busy having sex with two supermodels to show up and be right on the Internet promptly.

I'll try harder next time.
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hypnox posted...

As many people will confirm. You are VERY lucky I posted a link at all.

Considering if you even actually want your question answered, you'd pretty much have to either post a link or requote/rewrite the entirety of the plot yourself, it's more like you're lucky you posted a link.

Though let's be honest, this entire topic is now about how you post links, and no one is ever going to answer your question.
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Sarcasthma posted...

Yeah, I use butter when I make grilled cheese sandwiches.

This is the only case for me as well. I only ever put butter on bread if I'm making grilled cheese, or eating bread & butter with spaghetti or something.

I don't even butter toast. Or most things. When I use butter at all it's usually for cooking rather than as a spread on pancakes or waffles or whatever.



MrMelodramatic posted...

At first I thought it was weird but its way better than mayo so

It's not an either/or choice. You can in fact eat sandwiches with neither butter nor mayo.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

CBD isn't a mood altering drug.

To be fair, some straight-edge people would argue that even taking drugs like Tylenol is a step too far. .

And there's an argument to be made that being in less pain is a mood-altering experience.

Granted, me personally, I'd live my life doped to the gills on Demerol if I could, so it's not like I'm going to be judgmental about any sort of painkillers for any reason, minor or major. But some people definitely are, for a myriad of reasons.



Mead posted...

theres nothing addictive about CBD oil

Literally everything can be addictive. Behavioral addictions can easily occur even in cases where chemical addiction isn't a primary factor.

That's where things like gambling addiction come in. And why, even for stuff like smoking, people will point out that the behaviors involved (having something in your mouth, going on smoke breaks, etc) can make it hard to quit just as much as the actual withdrawal does (part of why chewing gum became such a common method for coping when quitting).

But with CBD, the real problem is that we really haven't done a ton of in-depth studies to really get at the root of what potential negatives or side-effects it might have, so there's the fear that it might be doing damage we won't really understand until like 20 years from now. Though even that isn't necessarily going to be a deal-breaker (like how Tylenol can potentially cause liver damage).
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Metalsonic66 posted...

Because of Spoony Bards?

The other way around, if anything.
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VincentVega posted...

Except that The Hobbit is made for children

Yes. Which is why you can't stretch that plot to 8+ hours long and not make it painfully obvious just how little substance you're working with. Or have to staple all sorts of things to it that don't actually belong and cause jarring tonal shifts.



VincentVega posted...

I love Tolkien but a straight adaptation of the book would have been terrible.

Rankin-Bass did a pretty good job, on a phenomenally inferior budget, with 1970s technology, and still got the whole story in at under an hour and a half.

Granted, it was compressed, but you could just as easily double the time and still come in under just one on the live-action movies. And arguably more coherent and better paced.



VincentVega posted...

but the argument that the book is short so the movie must be short too is very silly.

To be fair, that's not even the real argument most people usually make. It's closer to "They took something short, and expanded it ineptly and unnecessarily, under the supervision of a producer/director who didn't really want to be there and who was sort of in the middle of a nervous breakdown because of it, out of a callous desire to exploit an audience, regardless of whether or not the material actually warranted the expansion."

This isn't a case where they needed three movies to tell the story they wanted to tell, this is a case where they decided they wanted to make three more movies worth of money and then tried to figure out after the fact how they could do that. It was open knowledge at the time that they'd even originally started out planning to do two movies and the studio basically asked them to stretch it.

The real shame is that they somehow spent three times the budget on a story that was about 1/4th as long, and a lot of the CGI still winds up looking worse than it did a decade earlier. And which manages to feel less epic, exciting, or interesting than the actual original story in spite of all the extra stuff they shoehorned in to make it feel more epic, exciting, and interesting to LotR fans.
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Zeus posted...

I'd sooner re-watch The Avengers (1998) than The Avengers (2012)

You're straying dangerously close to Helly levels of contrarianism here.
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DarkKirby2500 posted...

And if you want to get edgy and post "who" he's one of the bigger youtube movie review channels that does get early access like the mainstream media critics.

That's not necessarily edgy, that's just accurately pointing out that most people don't even remotely know who the fuck he is or why anyone should care.

People never seem to really get this, but "YouTube famous" really isn't all that famous. It's just being popular to an extremely niche audience.
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Ehh.

I get what sort of fan they're making fun of, and they're not entirely wrong, per se, but those videos always make them come across like total assholes to me. And I actually like most of their other stuff.
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rexcrk posted...

I see that the Hobbit trilogy remains so completely misunderstood.

Mostly misunderstood by the people who decided to turn one relatively short book into a series of three movies.

When you're stretching a story that is shorter than the shortest volume of The Lord of the Rings to be as long (or longer) than those three books combined, you dun goofed son.
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Noop_Noop posted...

see now, that is the exact opposite of what i thought the popular opinion was

Probably depends on what sort of people you talk to. Nearly everyone I know who is aware the "Lost Levels" version of SMB2 existed at all kind of hates it for being a less fun SMB1. Whereas Doki Doki Bros 2 is weird, quirky, and accidentally established a lot elements of the franchise that stuck around (like Luigi being tall and Toad being the character nobody likes). It was fun, had catchy music, and was generally enjoyable at the time. Especially if you had no idea that it wasn't the same game the Japanese were getting.

Same deal with Final Fantasy IV - if you didn't know there was a "Japanese version" and "easy type", then you really didn't care that your Final Fantasy 2 on the SNES wasn't what the Japanese were playing. Who gives a shit? The game was awesome. Sure, hardcore weebs might argue that the Japanese version is inherently superior, but they're terrible people and their opinions belong in the dustbin.
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Lokarin posted...

Megaman 2 is what really got everything together, Megaman 3 perfected it and Megaman 4 slammed it!

I'd say Mega Man 1 was fun, but it wasn't incredibly great, and it had a lot of rough edges. Mega Man 2 basically took everything good about 1 and improved on it, making it a great game that was better in every possible way.

For 3, I'd say it was better in a lot of ways, but also weaker in some ways, so I usually have trouble deciding which I'd say was actually the better of the two games (or at least which one I prefer more) - if nothing else, 2 feels way more iconic to me than 3 does for the bosses and stages, 3 just feels more developed when it comes to supporting cast, with Rush and Proto Man.

Mega Man 4 is the game that basically made me stop caring about the series forever. I don't know if it was the fact that I was completely losing interest in the NES in favor of the SNES at that point, or if I was just shifting in terms of what I wanted from a game by that point (games like Myst and Maniac Mansion 2 were just around the corner), or if the game itself really failed to sell itself to me on any level, but I just couldn't even remotely care about 4 - and afterwards, I was barely aware that they were still releasing new games at all (and Mega Man X just left me utterly cold).



Sahuagin posted...

12yo me understands and agrees completely. 40yo me wants to do something else instead.

This sums up so much of my attitude towards gaming.

As a kid I was much more willing to put up with bullshit in games because there wasn't a massive selection of brilliant games and I didn't have anything better to do anyway most of the time. But as an adult when I'm constantly being pulled in a dozen different directions, in an age where there is more media available to consume than ever before in the entire history of the species, and I can feel the cold specter of death creeping up behind me, I have neither the time nor the patience for games that feel like they're wasting my time, or deliberately trying to piss me off.

I get it - frustration gaming is basically built on the idea that if you fail 99 times then that one time you DO succeed you get a phenomenal rush - but I don't have time to fail 99 times when there are so many other better things I could be playing or watching or reading or listening to. I'd rather spend most of my time consistently enjoying something 100/100 times, even if that "high" is comparatively lower, than getting one big moment and then spending most of the rest of my time chasing the dragon.

I understand why people enjoy games like Dark Souls, but there's almost nothing about it that appeals to me at all.

12 year old me probably would have been really into it, though.

Then again, 12 year old me was an idiot, and couldn't even beat Zelda II. Hey 12 year old me! I beat that shit in one night while drunk after a party in my late 20s. Adulthood, woo!
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Entity13 posted...

Think? It might be closer to "know." The mouse ears of doom should have stayed the fuck away from the franchise.

If anything, I'm tempted to still put the blame on Lucas.

Disney handled the Marvel films perfectly. They mostly worked because they had a singular vision, coming from a producer who actually liked the material and was passionate about creating something that would both satisfy comic fans and appeal to a wider audience, while respecting the mateiral (see also, what DC/WB constantly get wrong). Feige coordinated, he plotted things out in advance, and if he needed to rein a director in, he didn't hesitate to do so.

But Kathleen Kennedy came as part of the deal when Disney bought Lucasfilm - Lucas hired her to basically be his co-head before Disney bought the company, and when it was sold, Disney just kept her on promoted to full control. From their perspective, it makes sense - you don't want to rock the boat too badly and disrupt the internal workings of the golden goose, or piss fans off too badly because you're perceived as gutting an acquisition (see also, EA).

It's possible the only thing Disney did wrong is not immediately fire her/replace her with someone better (more capable, more willing to actually take control and not cede total artistic direction to multiple different directors with no end goal in sight, etc). But it's hard to say that Disney had any real reason to suspect she was going to be a problem until after she was already a problem - after which the well is already somewhat poisoned.

Though for conspiracy theory fun, Lucas only hired her to help run his company the same month he supposedly started discussing the idea of selling to Disney, so it's entirely possible he basically got her the job solely so she WOULD fuck up and make him look better by comparison. One last fuck you on the way out the door (along with reediting the Han/Greedo scene again and not telling anyone so no one would know until years later).

I can easily imagine an alternate world where Disney bought the company and put someone like Kevin Feige in charge and the sequels wound up being incredible. You don't even really need to change all that many characters or actors (Rey, Finn, and Poe are fine as protagonists, and they're all well-cast). All you really need is an ending in mind before you start telling the story, and enough creative control over the full arc to make sure you get to the ending effectively, and not spend the middle movie wallowing in metaphorical feces before you have to resort to a desperate Hail Mary play to salvage things.



Entity13 posted...

For another, we would have gotten another Tron movie.

Okay, now that, I can't argue with.
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CTLM posted...

That's crazy to me. As far back as I can remember (even classes in the 90's), it was basically beaten into our heads from day one that nothing other than double-spaces, 12-point New Times Roman would be accepted.

I never had a single teacher actually give standards for papers until like halfway through college. But part of that is probably because I was still on the cusp of people writing papers on a computer in the first place when I was in school.

I mean, when I was in elementary school, you'd have been doing your homework on an Apple IIe and printing it out on a dot matrix printer. Even by college, neither Google nor Wikipedia existed yet, and even the more advanced students would only have Windows 95, while most of us still had Windows 3.1 (and one of my roommates in college was using still OS/2). Standards take time to develop before they become more or less universal - for a while, teachers were still figuring out just what computers were capable of, and the best ways to use them.

But I definitely remember times when a teacher either asked for 10pt or single-spaced. Mostly because clever people would exploit kerning and spacing to put less content in an assignment than the teacher expected. I'm not sure there was ever really anything resembling a standard expectation even by the time I graduated (there was also disagreement on the best way to cite - teachers tended to lean more towards the Chicago Manual in high school, but my college tended to favor MLA and APA depending on the teacher).
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zebatov posted...

but Im aware that wasnt clear on my part so you wouldnt have known.

To be fair, I accidentally quoted the wrong post (which I've now fixed), so it wasn't really your fault anyway.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

they added too much crap in the hobbit.

At least some of it was from the Appendixes to LotR, or "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age" from The Silmarillion, so at least it was stuff Tolkien actually wrote, that WAS actually occurring at that point in the timeline, even if the story told in The Hobbit doesn't mention it.

What's more annoying is the stuff they just completely made up and pulled out of their asses solely so they could have a romantic subplot, or throw in a Legolas guest-appearance, or otherwise pad the hell out of something that was already stretched way way way too thin.
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zebatov posted...

Unfortunately most sell them I think.

This is why you steal it back first before you break up with them.

Or just don't give priceless family heirlooms to people, no matter how much your dick tells you that you'll be together forever.
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If I based my GotY on what I played most and got the most out of this year, I'd probably have to vote for Minecraft.
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Whenever I shake someone's hand for the first time, I squeeze a moderate amount, but also stab them with a hidden knife held in my left hand. It helps establish dominance.
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Gaawa_chan posted...

The prequels are the most political films of all of them by far. You just take issue with the politics in the new movies and don't take issue with the politics in the other films.

He likely just didn't understand the politics when he watched the movies as a kid, and hasn't really gone back and rewatched them with a critical eye since.

Just like most of the people in my generation who watched the original movies didn't quite pick up on the fact that the Empire were blatantly Space Nazis and the Ewoks were mostly included as a commentary on innocents getting killed in the crossfire of other people's wars.
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NightMareBunny posted...

then why comment? if you don't like any of those games then posting just to say i don't care is really weird

If you didn't want people answering your question, why post it on a public message board? Getting upset because people don't fit into your narrow world view is really weird.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

mace windu was just an angry black man as a jefdi,

If he had actually been an angry black guy, he would have been a more interesting character.

He was more of a bland cardboard black guy. Who was supposed to remind you of a cool/angry black guy by proxy because of who they cast.

The only time Mace was ever really an interesting character was in the Clone Wars cartoon Lucas refused to consider canon because he didn't write it, and it was better than anything he'd done for about 14 years.
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I disagree. But I can't do my own simplified inequality to argue with you because I don't know the greater than/less than symbol that means "when taken as a whole, they're equally terrible, only in significantly different ways".



Muscles posted...

but at least the prequels had a good story and cool new characters

I'm not sure you actually watched the same prequels the rest of us did.

Did Lucas secretly make a different cut that was actually good, that he keeps hidden and only shows to select people? And you somehow got to see it?



Muscles posted...

cool new characters like Qui-Gon, Mace, and Darth Maul

Two of those are neither cool nor good, and one of them isn't actually a character.
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Zareth posted...

Wait, you're telling me they made extended versions of the Hobbit films? I thought the ones in the theaters WERE the extended ones...

This. The theatrical versions were already 5 hours too long.
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Don't really care about any of those.
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Zareth posted...

This was super dumb. And it led to the whole thing of everyone calling him Tye-dus and then raging when they found out it was Tee-dus.

To be fair, that's because Tye-dus is not only how that word should be pronounced in English, it also makes the pun work better.

Tee-dus doesn't really mean anything, and is generally just kind of stupid.
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Johnny Eagle posted...

I don't even know what that is

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SRPGinvestigato posted...

Like... if the PS5 is fully backward compatible with everything I bought off of PSN

That's almost certainly never going to happen in any possible scenario, so you apparently already know what you need to know.
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Korruptor posted...

You probably wouldn't even need a PS5/X-whatever if you have a decent PC anyway

I would. Partly because I hate PC gaming in general, partly because I don't want to deal with Steam's bullshit (or Epic's bullshit), and partly because most of the games I actually want to play either aren't on PC at all, or tend to have worse versions on PC (WB games being notorious for that, for example).

Nearly every single complaint I have about modern consoles or gaming in general is something that PC fucked up first, or that is the direct result of consoles trying to be more like PCs. It doesn't really encourage me to jump in bed with "Patient Zero".
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The concept that certain foods are appropriate for breakfast and other foods are appropriate for dinner is very much a modern idea, and it's generally kind of stupid.
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1) The Mandela Effect is bullshit.

2) I basically lived on the Internet for the second half of the 90s, and I don't remember Beenz either. They probably weren't widespread enough to be all that significant out of their own sphere. And apparently part of why they failed was shit marketing, so that wouldn't help their case either.
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argonautweakend posted...

I hated that about FFX and tidus.

Kinda feels weird how all game it's hey buddy and shit wheb id rather not name him and have them speak his name.

His name was so stupid I couldn't wait to rename him, and I was happy they gave me the option.

For as much as I loved FFIV, I would have hated that game if I'd had to play as "Cecil".
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It's the sort of thing that happens when you let your engineers handle the marketing. They had the same problem early this gen as well.
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Never leave the house again.











Wait. Boobs? Or man-boobs?
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wwinterj25 posted...

Ah. So that's why everyone is still single.

The key is to learn to not give a fuck. Or to at least pretend to not give a fuck.
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"All we had to do was follow the damn train CJ!"

I should be fine. I'm white.

And arguably, the periods of time when people are murdering their way across San Andreas are relatively short, while the rest of the time it's just "AMERICA" turned up to 11 anyway.
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Because stoners are too stupid to remember that they already had a name.
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Yeah, I saw that. And I was like "WTF?"
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Considering how beauty pageants seem like a white trash American thing, it's pretty par for course, like how you don't get western idol girls in Japan.

To be fair, for the last 20 years or so they've mostly stopped being actual beauty pageants and have mostly become over-politicized where the judges try hard to avoid picking the most physically attractive woman in an attempt to seem progressive.

Pageants in general are sort of trapped in this mutant in-between phase where they basically exist to objectify women in a culture where objectifying women is becoming more and more beyond the pale, leaving them as a sort of half-breed monster that mostly just sort of annoys everyone and pleases no one.
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GreenKnight127 posted...

If you had been single, she wouldn't have asked.

Because this is how the universe operates.

When you're single, you have the smell of desperation on you. Women notice this, and avoid you.

When you're in a relationship, you have a degree of confidence and casual attitude that is appealing to women, so they're more attracted to you. And you aren't constantly chasing after them or acting stupid around them out of horny nervousness, which is even more attractive.



TimeForAction posted...

i've heard this line of thinking before, the test/trap scheme. it doesn't make sense. one of two things is happening in this scenario

1) his gf doesn't trust him, and with her having these trust issues she has her sorta friend hit on him at a party away from her and would expect and accept honesty when said friend reports back to her

2)this other girl, "looking out for her friend" and without the friends knowledge, disingenuously solicits another guy hoping to get rejected so she could then go back to her friend and tell his gf that she tried to hook up with her boyfriend and he said no. like that would fly with another girl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo&t=0m55s
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Lester's version certainly had flaws, but some of its most memorable and enjoyable moments come from his version.

Donner's version was good in its own way, but there's a LOT of bad in his version of the script, which makes it a weaker movie overall. A lot of the changes Lester made were for the better.

Lester's version probably could have been even stronger if the behind-the-scenes bullshit didn't handicap him in a lot of ways. But as is it still seems like the better of the two.

The real problem was that Superman III basically tried to go all-in on the Lester elements while dropping the Donner elements entirely, which hurt the movie badly. Which suggests Donner and Lester together were more than the sum of their parts.
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WastelandCowboy posted...

But dont stick your dick in crazy.

You kids today get everything wrong. Crazy sex is the best sex.

You should always stick your dick in crazy. Just don't give crazy your phone number or let it follow you home.
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