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Krazy_Kirby posted...

there is a really old dc animated movie about the dark side of the moon, but I can't find it with google... definitely earlier than mid 90's

DC wasn't really making animated movies before the mid-90s.

I wouldn't necessarily say it was a flop, because that kind of implies it failed due to its own flaws. But I'd definitely say it failed.

I think what absolutely killed this generation was how hard it became to get the newer consoles. If there was a ton of must-own games that were only available on the newer consoles people might have been more willing to make the effort, but the last decade has been a bad one for worthwhile games and most of the good ones are still available on the previous gen consoles, so there was never really much motivation to try.

Now with talk of the PS6 and next iteration of XBox not being far off, it feels like both Sony and Microsoft have written this generation off entirely. Hopefully they'll do a better job getting product out into the world next time.

slacker03150 posted...

But how well will it sync to the wizard of OZ?

It only syncs with Return to Oz.

You were rightly punished for your hubris.

agesboy posted...

every time i see your username i get pissed off that i lost my account PotD_Newb

Did you look under the couch cushions?

Technically there's a circus in Baldur's Gate 2, but it's a relatively small area. It's where you recruit Aerie.

Actually, come to think of it, I think there was a carnival/fair sort of area in Baldur's Gate 1 as well, near where you recruit Branwen.

I was always Peach on the SNES.

Just in general, honestly. She was my go-to for Super Mario Bros 2 on the NES as well.

BADoglick posted...

I'm pretty sure that's the gateway to dubstep

I do get a charge out of it.

My New Year's Resolution about two decades ago was to not make any more New Year's Resolutions.

...I think I've accidentally acquired an extra electron.

Cacciato posted...

You complain a lot about your job

You could have left "about your job" off that statement and it still would have been true.

teddy241 posted...

Hawaiians are cool.

Hawaiians are only cool to your face when they're making tourist money off you. Most of them loathe you behind your back for being a filthy haole.

;_;

metallica846 posted...

Not yet. If the charges are dropped we will know I guess.

I mean, you won't. He's so integral to years worth of Marvel content and they've seen what's happening with Ezra Miller. It's entirely possible they stepped in to stomp down on this hard, and just asked her "How much do we have to pay you to make you shut up?"

It's possible the story is true and she's recanting due to external pressure, or just because she's reconsidered and doesn't want to destroy his entire career and life over something that was just the heat of the moment. It's also true that she was straight up lying. But we'll never really know for sure.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

Oh yeah? Well whaddya hafta say about this? * telepaths really hard *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0FnfGblLr8

Krazy_Kirby posted...

old age

https://youtu.be/XByvlRQ8HJk?t=4833

FrozenBananas posted...

I feel that way especially with Poe, we clearly didnt get enough of him. He had amazing charisma and those two had great chemistry.

Part of the problem for him was that he was supposed to die in the crash in the first movie. They kept him alive because test audiences loved him, but they never knew what to do with him afterwards.

I was entirely ready for Poe/Finn gay buddy cop space adventures. Sadly, Rian Johnson hates joy.

Since I have no nostalgia for Ocarina of Overrated, I'd say there are plenty of better ones.

Here's just a few:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=923fVDDwaHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5JnlNtx_mM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2-x4VhKPaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUDMrmjgjQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkXmC-7uqJU


The real problem is that "iconic" doesn't really mean much. Even terrible things can be iconic. But I'd still say these are more iconic (and better) than Ocarina anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyMKWJ5e1kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX9AroX7x1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTa6Xbzfq1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuSu6q7fuq4

I could go on.

FrozenBananas posted...

I actually really like Finn (and Rey) in Star Wars. Fight me!

Finn and Poe were pretty much the definition of wasted potential in those films. There was so much to work with there, and they did almost nothing with it.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

For out of the dust you come for the dust you are, and to the dust you shall return

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. If you don't take it out and use it, it's going to rust.

Sarcasthma posted...

Umm magnets dont work on wood, PO

Maybe yours don't.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

star wars is fantasy not sci-fi, but marvel is sci-fi?

Comics in general are fantasy, even if some nerds keep trying to force them into sc-fi.

Metalsonic66 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/2/AAFUswAAEUgI.jpg

Thought that was going to say "Fantasy is when you have a sword made of light because the author thinks it's cool." I definitely would have agreed with that.



Blightzkrieg posted...

SciFi is when a cat human hybrid is a metaphor for mankind's arrogance, and Fantasy is when a cat human hybrid is a result of mankind's libido

"Sci-fi is when a cat human hybrid is a metaphor for mankind's arrogance, and Fantasy is when a cat human hybrid is a result of the author's fetishes."

Sarcasthma posted...

I'm pleasantly surprised at the vote distribution so far.

I'm amused by how your topics seem to be a magnet for gimmick alts to come out of the woodwork.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

star trek has stuff like mind meld, which is definitely not sci-fi

Telepathy is absolutely sci-fi, especially in the 60s when psychic abilities were treated more like a pseudoscience. Psychic powers crop up in Dune in the same context.

The only reason the telepathy and telekinesis of the Force isn't really sci-fi as well is context - it's treated more like New Age magic and spiritualism rather than science.

The line between sci-fi and fantasy isn't the setting, the technology, or the powers people have. It's the way you're telling the story and what your intentions are. Sci-fi tends to tell intellectual stories that explore the implications of the universe being presented, often as a parallel to real world issues. Fantasy tends to tell emotional stories that echo the mythic tales of the past. Sci-fi wants to make you think. Fantasy wants to make you feel.

I was going to say maybe it's because you're on a low karma alt account and only higher level accounts can see them, but my low karma alt can see them just fine so maybe you're just having some kind of mental breakdown.

Telnetting into my local BBS.

Not in any continuity I choose to acknowledge.

BADoglick posted...

People from the northeast like Philly, NYC, etc just want expediency and if you're not they see you as rude for wasting their time.

This is the key. People from the Northeast tend to be very time-sensitive, while people from the South tend to be more lackadaisical. So which one bothers you more likely depends on your own preferences. Southerners can see Northerners as rude because they come across as impatient and abrupt, while Northerners can see Southerners as rude because they're half-assing everything and wasting time.

The other thing that doesn't tend to help is that Northerners tend to value honestly and bluntness when it comes to social interaction, while Southerners will try to be excessively polite to your face even while they're stabbing you in the back, so Southerners can see Northerners as rude while Northerners can see Southerners as being two-faced.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

Ok boomer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

MightBeOverSoon posted...

I feel like a lot of the people saying that are going to be the same ones begging me for food and water when it all hits the fan.

Nah.

I was willing to fight to survive back when people were talking about Y2K and the subsequent collapse of society (though I never really took it all that more seriously than most people take "zombie prepping"), but now I'm old and tired and achy and I don't really have a powerful self-preservation instinct that will force me to survive at all costs. I've lived a great life and I don't really have any kids I need to support so I'm mostly apathetic about the whole thing. If the shit hits the fan, I'm ready to lie down and just forever sleep.

Of course, I also own lots of weapons and I'm fully ready to switch to long pork, so if society collapses maybe I'll start forming a raider gang about 20 minutes afterward. And then I'm gonna eat ya.

Yes, because they are the only two women who have ever worn a large bow.

ssj3vegeta posted...

unless you're

https://i.imgur.com/HzW5AWX.jpg

That movie was so ridiculous. I can't imagine how high a room full of Disney execs had to be to decide that they wanted to make a light-hearted animated movie version of Hunchback. The book is so dark.

They sterilized the shit out of the movie and blatantly changed the ending and it was still crazy dark.

Even darker than the Grimm fairy tales versions of stuff like Cinderella or Snow White. Or even the actual Little Mermaid.

I like the theory that we as a culture used to idolize athletes and other skilled professionals because they inspired us to be better, but once we started getting reality tv shows and weirdos in Internet videos, we basically started making celebrities out of people who are worse than us because it allows us to feel better about our own failings.

When you can say "At least I'm not as bad as that guy", you don't have to make an effort to be better.

MightBeOverSoon posted...

They say when the collapse happens, roughly 90% of people are going to bite it

We can only hope.



MightBeOverSoon posted...

Are you going to be one of them?

Yes.



MightBeOverSoon posted...

Are you doing ANYTHING to prepare?

I've long since come to terms with the cessation of existence, so I can welcome the cold embrace of death.

Revelation34 posted...

Damn you didn't want to tell me.

I actually thought I'd answered that.



Revelation34 posted...

Where do you keep your phylactery?

Up my butt.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

is greek

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Judge

With my dying wish (see other topic), I command all of you to never, ever let Duckbear come back, no matter what trinkets or blandishments he offers you.

If I must die, let his name and his works be forgotten.

Not really.

New Jersey doesn't really have spring as much as it has about two mild days between winter and summer, and summer is usually hot and humid, and I hate it.

We've also had an extremely mild winter except for like one coldsnap weekend months ago, so it's not like I'm hating ice and snow and slush and welcoming the end of the the way I might have other years.

GranTurismo posted...

Do you personally know anyone that has gotten Covid in the past month or 2?

Me, possibly.

Woke up yesterday with a slight scratchy throat and mild cough. The cough got worse as the day went on, and somewhere around 8pm or so I got hit out of nowhere with violent shivers, a fever, and sudden fatigue. Went to bed around 10pm to try and sleep for a bit - I basically slept sitting up in bed huffing Vicks vapor rub (the only way I could stop coughing) and with a space heater pointed directly at my body (the only way I could stop shivering). Kind of curled into a fetal ball sitting up to retain warmth under two blankets.

It's currently 1am and I just woke up and feel like I can't really go back to sleep just yet. And apparently while sleeping I've started to develop a bit of nausea (which might just be from post nasal drip on an empty stomach), and a headache. And pretty much everything else aches as well, but that might just be from being old. And I think I might have lost my sense of taste (I tried to drink some Coke, but I can't tell if my taste is gone or the soda is just flat).

This isn't what colds feel like to me at all, so it's either Covid or a regular flu. A friend of mine is coming over tomorrow morning to drop off a testing kit so I can see what it shows, but I feel like at this point Covid is the more statistically likely option.


If I die in the next few days, I bequeath my cynicism to my son Shadow. And my mummified penis to Sarcasthma. Use them well.

Revelation34 posted...

Somebody eats that somewhere.

It's more chicken arse than arse chicken, but...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygostyle

Nade_Duck posted...

free duckbear

I wouldn't even take him for free!



MeatiestMeatus posted...

Guess we'll have to pump something else into you

Buy me dinner first.

bigblu89 posted...

True. But it's not going to stop GenZers from blaming the GenXers.

Nah, they'll just keep blaming Boomers until it becomes acceptable to blame Millennials.

wolfy42 posted...

If nobody said Darth Vader, somebody shoulda said Darth Vader!

https://youtu.be/v3XTHVC1Nf0?t=97

adjl posted...

Me, I'd say that "there are no games I want to play" is a big enough issue to outweigh pretty much any problems PC gaming has, but maybe I'm just weird.

When everyone else can find something fun to play and you can't, that does suggest that the problem is with you

Except I never said either of these things, and it kind of negates the entirety of the rest of your argument.

Saying gaming as a whole is worse than it was is not the same as saying there is literally nothing of value on consoles.

Saying that there are a few rare gems on PC is not the same as saying PC is an overflowing bounty of games that gives it a huge worthwhile library compared to consoles.

You're basically creating a false dichotomy to argue a strawman.

And most of the rest of your post pretty much borders on "Your opinions are wrong", which kind of makes it meaningless.

wolfy42 posted...

While it is possible, it's extremely unlikely, even the old fear of wiping out all tech (massive EMP charge etc) and being unable to get back to the same level of technology because fossil fuels are too hard to reach now, is pretty much gone due to our current methods of generating power from solar etc.

This is falling into the trap of assuming massive calamity is required to seriously set things back. There are plenty of lesser factors that can cause issues in and of themselves, or combine to form a systemic chain reaction crash.

There are a LOT of simmering issues brewing in the world that people have already identified as future flash-points. We have no real way to predict which are going to ignite and when, and what consequences they'll have when they do.

Even stuff like Covid was predicted (virologists and other specialists were warning that the world wasn't ready for another pandemic, and predicted we'd see one within 10-20 years). We weathered Covid, but it had plenty of related negative consequences that we're still dealing with (and likely will be for a while to come). Now imagine if multiple problems on that level occur at the same time. Infrastructure can strain past a breaking point from multiple smaller issues as easily as it can from larger ones.

And none of that takes into account possible problems we can't foresee.



wolfy42 posted...

Information is very hard to totally destroy

Information is very easy to destroy, and we've actually spent the last century or so making it easier than ever. As media storage capacity increases, lifespan decreases. Clay tablets last for thousands of years, but papyrus and paper is much more fragile. Mass produced books from the 20th century is even more fragile, as they used cheap paper and cheap ink to reduce costs, and those decay far faster (there are books published in the 60s/70s/80s that are already almost completely degraded).

Digital storage is worse in some ways. Magnetic tapes from the 60s and 70s have mostly degraded, and even CDs and DVDs tend to have a lifespan of about 70 years, give or take (and writable ROMs are worse - I have backup data CDs from the early 2000s that have already become impossible to read from bitrot). And even beyond the integrity of the storage medium, the ever-changing standards mean that some things have become extremely difficult (if not impossible) to access. If you've got a stack of old floppy discs or zip discs, you'll find it hard now to ever actually use them, without tracking down surviving old hardware and jury-rigging a set-up (and even that will grow harder to do over time).

(It's like when people ask why we can't get to the moon now when we could do it in the 60s - as technology advances, it leaves obsolete technology behind, and what was possible then becomes impossible now. Sure, we can find new ways to do old things, but the old way still becomes lost to time.)

Sure, information can be copied into new systems and retained, but then you start getting into the problem of curation (who chooses what's worth keeping and what winds up lost?) and the problem of error propagation (mistakes made in transcription become perpetuated in all future transfers). And with digital storage, you run into the problem of power (if you have data stored on a hard drive, but no power - or no power of the correct voltage/wattage/etc to access it, what you actually have is a fancy doorstop).

So yeah, data can very easily be lost, even in the Information Age.

And on top of all that, there's also the cultural assumption problem - some knowledge has been lost simply because people considered it so common-sensical that no one ever thought to write it down (things like the recipe for Roman concrete). Or because certain knowledge was deemed to be too important and needed to be kept secret (like the recipe for Greek Fire). Or because information that is inaccurate or outright lies is perpetuated while factual data is lost over time.

In a significant enough crisis situation, there is a tendency for humans to prioritize currently useful information over other forms of learning, and that can easily result in things being forever lost. Even in the last few hundred years we've lost films, tv shows, crafting secrets, historical context - in a crisis scenario, we could easily lose much, much more.

But even beyond ALL of that, mere catastrophic data loss isn't the only way that "progress" could backslide. Scenarios like certain Christian and Islamic library purges or things like the Ming Chinese actively suppressing their own naval supremacy for political reasons show that culture can easily play a role in shifts, and that history isn't always "ever upward and ever onward", regardless of the lies that American schools have perpetuated for years.



wolfy42 posted...

Anyway unless something massive happens, even if most of humanity goes poof, most of humanity is worthless anyway, the brightest minds will continue to develop technology and advance and more than likely we will eventually reach the stars and conquer them.

Again, this is basically the myth of progress. And this (along with most of the rest of your post) falls into what I generally classify as the belief that SCIENCE! is capable of answering every question and solving every problem, which often borders on religious faith more than rational reasoning.

"Well, we don't understand it today but we will tomorrow" is a massive act of faith. It and statements like "Look how much we've learned over the last 150 years or so, surely we'll eventually learn even more and solve [x]" are both logical fallacies. They're assumptions without proof (which ironically is something science itself looks down on).

Sure, it's possible future humans WILL solve today's insoluble problems. But there's no real guarantee that it WILL happen or MUST happen. It's entirely possible that some problems may never be solved. It's possible that some problems cannot be solved, due to the very nature of the universe itself. Or our limited perception of it. There may be some limitations we can never transcend, even if we had a quadrillion uninterrupted years to try.

Believing it's inevitable that humans will somehow manage to colonize the universe makes so many assumptions about things we cannot prove that it borders on saying good people go to Heaven when they die.

And in some ways, it makes the conversation almost meaningless. Even if it does happen, it's not going to happen in the next dozen lifetimes. We're so far away from where we need to be scientifically and technologically that it will take generations of forward progress to even dream of achieving it. And looking forward that far may lead people to neglect the problems of the moment.

Judgmenl posted...

Duckbear leaving was actually quite impactful.

Not in a qualitative sense. We were averaging around 14 pages (20 topics per) back while he was still here, so we only lost about 30 topics a week. And most of those probably were Duckbear's.

For those of us who already had him on ignore, almost nothing has changed.



Blightzkrieg posted...

Duckbear kept us humble. We used to strive to be better.

"Better" and "Duckbear" really don't belong in the same sentence. Or paragraph.

Or metatextual concept.



Blightzkrieg posted...

Now we spread hate towards those we dislike and pat ourselves on the back over it.

To be fair, we were doing that long before Duckbear left. And while he wasn't even here. And for most of the time PotD's existed at all.

If anything, the real problem might be that we don't have anyone left to really hate. It was always the villains and fools of the past that could draw the hate of most of the board that really brought us together. Now no one really agrees on any one person worth hating, and if anyone does really loathe someone, they just throw them on ignore/block anyway. So we never really come together over hating and bashing specific people.

All most of us have left at this point is apathetic distaste for a few people at best. And a bunch of us are mostly posting out of inertia more than any real passion at this point.

We're like season 30 of The Simpsons. People still watch, but no one is really sure why.

Lord_Shadow posted...

I remember a few months ago it was at 9 pages down to 4 now

Nah. On 20 topics per page it's held pretty steady around 11-12 for a long time now.

That seems to be our current equilibrium - we'll occasionally have a burst of activity that might add a dozen or so extra topics that pull us up a page or two, or we'll have a slow period that drops us down a page, but it seems like somewhere around 240-ish active topics is the new normal. Which puts us pretty close to RI's current pace (CE's still much more active, but also much more terrible, so it's a wash).

Though I have faith in us - I'm sure we can get it lower if we try!



Blightzkrieg posted...

I'm surprised PO hasn't pulled a Little Mermaid and transmogrified into a black woman yet

I mean, I'm 6'3" and like 260 lbs, and I can grow a full beard in about a week. I'd make a really poor woman no matter how much estrogen you tried pumping into me.

Though I suppose if it's for the good of the board I could start wearing cat ears and a tail and start identifying as a nonbinary furry or something.

bigblu89 posted...

We're only 15 short years away from them replacing Boomers and GenXers as the ones who were going to solve, but are now the cause of, all of the world's problems!

Hey now, Gen Xers were never going to solve any of the world's problems. Gen X's attitude was always more like "Well, everything's fucked, so let's just say fuck it and enjoy the ride on the way down." They weren't the idealists who slowly grow jaded and allow themselves to become corrupted, they were the disaffected and apathetic cynics who gave up before they even started.

Boomers and Millennials were the ones who were convinced they had all the answers and were going to fix all the world's problems, and show all those selfish old people what real positive change looked like! Save the world! All you need is love man!

And I've been calling Millennials the new Boomers for years now.